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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Airbag on February 07, 2020, 08:27:47 PM
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FREDERICK BOURGAULT
ON - MISCONDUCT PREJUDICIAL TO THE BEST INTERESTS OF RACING
FOLLOWING THE END OF RACE 3, MR. BOURGAULT DID ENGAGE IN MISCONDUCT PREJUDICIAL
TO THE BEST INTEREST OF RACING BY COMMITTING AN ACT OF CRUELTY ON THE HORSE
SUNNY BILLION
He’s a dumbass without any respect for the industry.
Negative impacts.
Partners / Owners / Drivers should avoid doing business with this kind of jerk.
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tmbz1
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Observations from a distance.. FREDERICK BOURGAULT: SUNNY BILLION
*Dec 2 incident not on track..had to be a 'backstretch beat'
by this character, apparently because horse shied from drive for home that night.
*the following weekend, 4 nights later at Flamboro, on the drop and with the rail..the horse Sunny Billion wins. -- followed by another win at same reduced level the following week..so incident, as mean as it no doubt was, didn't put horse out of commission..but the noted 'cruel act' may have 'inspired' him. (as sick as that sounds)
-- the cruelty, which occurred dec 2 at Western Fair wasn't adjudicated until TWO months later...why delay of that length? Is it policy?? Is it waiting to see if horse has lasting effects? Is it poor commission policy?
**pls. note a one year probation added onto the 2 month suspension.
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Animal rights activists are attacking TB racing , do we really want them targeting us next? Get rid of the guy, bad news and bad for the perception of the sport
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beats and pounds on his horses all the time at the farm
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This is tolerated by the owners and guys stabled there?
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A .450 bad actor....
THE WORST KIND.
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Trains on deals owners don’t care as long as they get a free ride
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He beat up the Neil kid to for parking his horse
His girlfriend must like it rough to stay with that pos
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and not one horse on lasix either
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Ontario he won't need lasix, they have a lack of testing and it's easy to appeal your days and just put a beard down
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The Agco in Ontario must get whiplash from looking the other way, worse then PA agreed there. They give certain stables immunity from black box too
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How many times have I said that AGCO is a fucking country club, they do absolutely 0 in policing the sport. One example comes to mind a few years back. The usual suspects (chemists) are winning all the races and here is Pat Hudon that can't pay his bills, has to drive which he can't because he can't afford a catch driver and he loads one up for a gambler who gave him the coin and wham bam he gets busted and suspended. Then AGCO has the nerve to blow their horn about how they will not tolerate cheating after the suspension. Yes I talk a lot about Pennsylvania but Ontario is no better maybe even worse.
wasn't that the aminorex fiasco?
22 or 23 trainers?
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wasn't that the aminorex fiasco?
22 or 23 trainers?
No it was the Sandy DiFlorio fiasco....all the names in the computer were swept under the rug. Tbred trainers were shittin bricks.
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Is Difliori from Quebec?
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This suspended sick clown, and his very suspicious .450++.avg. dont get sat down until feb 17.....what kind of ruling body allows for more racing until a conviction kicks in?. Nothing to do with appeal..AGCO shame!!!
This character has got horses in all this week..most will be at short money. Travis Henry, his reg driver should DO RIGHT THING and beg off ALL of his mounts until his april reinstatement. Yes it would be the 'stupid $$' thing but the right and COURAGEOUS thing to do.
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This suspended sick clown, and his very suspicious .450++.avg. dont get sat down until feb 17.....what kind of ruling body allows for more racing until a conviction kicks in?. Nothing to do with appeal..AGCO shame!!!
This character has got horses in all this week..most will be at short money. Travis Henry, his reg driver should DO RIGHT THING and beg off ALL of his mounts until his april reinstatement. Yes it would be the 'stupid $$' thing but the right and COURAGEOUS thing to do.
...says the illiterate retard who is constantly on here pumping Dolores Basilone's tires. Imagine suggesting Travis Henry take off the drives, you fucking simpleton. STFU already and go find a clue!
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This suspended sick clown, and his very suspicious .450++.avg. dont get sat down until feb 17.....what kind of ruling body allows for more racing until a conviction kicks in?. Nothing to do with appeal..AGCO shame!!!
This character has got horses in all this week..most will be at short money. Travis Henry, his reg driver should DO RIGHT THING and beg off ALL of his mounts until his april reinstatement. Yes it would be the 'stupid $$' thing but the right and COURAGEOUS thing to do.
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his suspension has disappeared from the SC Fines and Suspensions list...….what gives>
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Pylon SC did a housecleaning and a good sweep under the carpet as they are prone to do.
Ice,,,,i guess we will find out Feb17
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...says the illiterate retard who is constantly on here pumping Dolores Basilone's tires. Imagine suggesting Travis Henry take off the drives, you fucking simpleton. STFU already and go find a clue!
Suspension should have started immediately after the incident, you either beat the horse or not
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What's the connection with Basilone and Bourgeault? Both beards for Eckley?
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fyi..
Bourgeault..
had a winner last night at WF..chalk from rail for Henry..Bourgealt's suspension 'scheduled' to start feb 17 (who the hell knows why original agco proclamation gave this guy additional week plus racing hen you consider his violation in question weeks back. Will there be appeal effective feb 17, stay tuned.
As well, his agco suspension is now listed in fines suspensions archives (feb.)
Basilone...more of a fascination with how a known new york state cheat is doing up in canada..want to know if its tough on her..making any 'friends'..dont know her wouldnt know her.
Last night at WF, she and her .115 avg. had one of her u.s. stock claimed off her for 8500 (sos justified by francois morin) - i think thats first one she lost at the box...other horse, a 5 yr old mare, was bottom of 6 horse race super.
Im sure flam and wf horsemen are watching her very carefully..and like i said before, shes now got plenty of starts into her stable, and the horses are comparable to others in each of the fields..if capable drivers st louis and ryan want to get her some $$$, shes now had her invader 'ass kicked enough' in month and a half shes been racing..she SHOULD start hitting board with more regularity next few weeks, before potential return stateside.
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Claimed by Bourgault 5 days before suspension supposed to start. WTF
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I remember on a thread away back about Monticello and some had mentioned about how great Basilone looked. I was in the paddock last week and saw her and guys get your eyes checked. Another thing is her grooms basically get the horse ready and she stands around watching and looking like she is doing a final check. I have to agree she is just a beard for others and when the juice comes in she wins.
Stan, who claims a horse days before you go on suspension
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Race 8 Singhampton Kenny (2) $8500 by Gary McDonald tr V Puddy SOS Justified (1) $8500 by Francois Morin tr F Bourgault
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Didn’t make since to me either. Obviously has a beard in place watch for trainer change
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THIS EXPOSES A MESS
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The living breathing heartbeating animal Sos Justified DESERVES better than have new trainer like this...a suspended (appeal potentially???) trainer for a cruelty charge SHOULD NOT LEGALLY BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE NEAR CLAIMING BOX -- AGCO, are you reading this?????
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Agree JC Agco must be tickling their testes instead of doing their job
Suspension should have started December 3rd
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No suspension apparently. Sickening.
Western Fair Raceway - 8 - Mon February 17, 2020
Hrs:MARACASSODr:Henry, Travis J
Western Fair Raceway - 9 - Tue February 18, 2020
Hrs:SWEET CITY GIRLDr:Henry, Travis J
Western Fair Raceway - 10 - Tue February 18, 2020
Hrs:SOMEHOWSOMEDAYDr:Henry, Travis J
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Insanity
The track should refuse his entries but they are all corrupt as well
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They don't allow St Louis to race because of his past but allow this habitual abuser to carry on
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How does letting a degenerate continue to race and sweep the misconduct charge benefit Hugh Mitchell or Weg
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The corruption runs deep. Doesn't Louis Roy own horses with Bourgeault?
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This one CRYING out for going above AGCO heads..animal activists worthy of being brought into this...***it must be getting appealed..just has to** how else can you explain this. ...A FULL EXPLANATION IS REQUIRED ON THIS..
--I again ask:
Who blew the whistle on this scoundrel hurting his animal in the first place..somebody did. Who? if this punishment is not meted out, then all of us must ask the whistleblower to come forward to o.p.p. or media or both to get charge laid. AGCO just cant be this impotent!! Can they??
And then ill ask, as i did before:
Travis Henry..whos never had better $$ run with a driver/ trainer combination than with this individual..
Travis Henry, do the right thing, turn down the mounts of this trainer...travis, if you were at all honorable, you'd do the right thing and demand front office assistance removing this backstretch blight on canadian racing...or even braver, youshould hold a press conference outing all of this backstretch bullshit. Did you witness Sunny Billion slugged in backstretch after you returned him to backstretch after the race that night? I hope not, but if you did, come forward...youd have so many newfound fans and so.much more self respect....turnin g a blind eye, along with many others in ontario bacjstretches is disgraceful.
And once again..this 'trainer??'got another one in his barn via claiming route..SOS Justified....how in the world can a guy with a cruelty charge hanging over him is allowed to be the new trainer in a claim is shocking..where the hell is the AGCO??? .that horse deserves nothing but the utmost respect and care and comfort and encouragement by new connections. And in this particular case, a very close eyeshould be kept on this animal for any change in behavior or appearance.
Sickening....and if entry box for feb 17 on is right then what the hell happened to this slam dunk case??? 6 weeks, 2500 bucks and one year probation..and to be honest, an animal cruelty charge. IF THERE IS AN APPEAL, THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW..NOW.
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great comments
i have no first hand knowledge of this incident but i will assume that if charges were laid it is serious and true
here is the issue, cosa and all other groups spread the gospel on how the people who work with horses love the animals and treat them like children , for the most part i agree, any horses i have been involved with have been well cared for from what i have seen
but very little of it resonates with the general public, but a case of animal cruelty if true and if picked up will spread on social media like wild fire, the last thing this industry needs right now, and to make it worse will be the fact the agco was negligent in getting to the bottom of it asap, like it is not important to them
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A cosa director Boughton represented him
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great comments
i have no first hand knowledge of this incident but i will assume that if charges were laid it is serious and true
here is the issue, cosa and all other groups spread the gospel on how the people who work with horses love the animals and treat them like children , for the most part i agree, any horses i have been involved with have been well cared for from what i have seen
but very little of it resonates with the general public, but a case of animal cruelty if true and if picked up will spread on social media like wild fire, the last thing this industry needs right now, and to make it worse will be the fact the agco was negligent in getting to the bottom of it asap, like it is not important to them
FREDRICK DOESNT CARE
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Wow
How do any officials or track management answer their negligence to animal rights activists when they get wind of this
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What is appalling is that apparently phone pics were sent to the director at AGCO and yet this guy is still racing and claiming. What is more ridiculous is that AGCO is funded by taxpayers dollars and yet all rulings and decisions are behind closed doors and no reasoning for their decisions are made public.
Why are the keeping all this quiet?
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This harness game, being based FAR OUTSIDE OF TORONTO these days, saves so many bad asses, because soft leftwing media who could really use a killer scoop, types are out of range..social media keeners, who could REALLY hurt this game for horse drug and physical abuse, are only around toronto too....towns like dundas, london, barrie, sarnia, peterborough, dresden etc. just far enough away from a concentrated and very damaging reveal. (and with the santa anita national media death count continuing,can a canada story be far behind)
And sadly, so many good humans involved in game too being dragged into this kind of shame.
Ill ask here: on a scale of 10, horseploppers...l eave the horrific drugging stories out this time around....is animal cruelty a factor in day to day harness horse operations?either youve witnessed, heard about and/or sadly, participated in to get a 'better horse focus or result'.????
Is it acceptable in todays fading game? Is slugging a horse in the head a 'legit' way to get its attention next time?
I remember hearing about 35 yrs back from an oldtimer of a southwest ontario harness operation beating a horse, wearing a blanket, with a hockey stick (dont know how many times or where- but in an attempt to get the steed to be more 'attentive' next time..or else)
Is this kinda thing still in none, few, some or many operations today?
Just asking, cause if the game we love is not careful, some leftwing media/social media side of things, who really hate doug ford and the conservative harness racing buyoff$$ of rural voters, might not mind making the drive out to the noted town(s) and end up paying some hidden camera visits to a track or backstretch or farm op like they have chicken farms, slaughterhouses, etc. WE MUST CLEAN THIS SIDE OF THINGS UP.
...and about drugging horses...ok, next time
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Anyone who believes this is an isolated incident is on crack , this guy is beyond abusive and should be banned for life but won't happen
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This harness game, being based FAR OUTSIDE OF TORONTO these days, saves so many bad asses, because soft leftwing media who could really use a killer scoop, types are out of range..social media keeners, who could REALLY hurt this game for horse drug and physical abuse, are only around toronto too....towns like dundas, london, barrie, sarnia, peterborough, dresden etc. just far enough away from a concentrated and very damaging reveal. (and with the santa anita national media death count continuing,can a canada story be far behind)
And sadly, so many good humans involved in game too being dragged into this kind of shame.
Ill ask here: on a scale of 10, horseploppers...l eave the horrific drugging stories out this time around....is animal cruelty a factor in day to day harness horse operations?either youve witnessed, heard about and/or sadly, participated in to get a 'better horse focus or result'.????
Is it acceptable in todays fading game? Is slugging a horse in the head a 'legit' way to get its attention next time?
I remember hearing about 35 yrs back from an oldtimer of a southwest ontario harness operation beating a horse, wearing a blanket, with a hockey stick (dont know how many times or where- but in an attempt to get the steed to be more 'attentive' next time..or else)
Is this kinda thing still in none, few, some or many operations today?
Just asking, cause if the game we love is not careful, some leftwing media/social media side of things, who really hate doug ford and the conservative harness racing buyoff$$ of rural voters, might not mind making the drive out to the noted town(s) and end up paying some hidden camera visits to a track or backstretch or farm op like they have chicken farms, slaughterhouses, etc. WE MUST CLEAN THIS SIDE OF THINGS UP.
...and about drugging horses...ok, next time
IT WAS CALLED "STALL TRAINING" ONE....HEARD ABOUT BUT NEVER SEEN IT MYSELF. wAS ALWAYS SOMEBODY SLAPPING ONE UPSIDE THE HEAD WITH A LEAD SHANK OR HALTER...THEY GOT FIRED IF CAUGHT AS WELL.
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A cosa director Boughton represented him
Boughton is an OHHA loyalist. Not COSA.
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Either way
Do you think it's in the best interest of racing that a horseman association defends some who committed animal cruelty?
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wonder how people will react knowing freddie got fingered who beat the animal cruelty charges after being caught on camera beating his horse after the race has another agco case coming up for choking a participant in the test barn
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Would it not be in the tracks best interest to refuse entry like they do to StLouis?
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Would it not be in the tracks best interest to refuse entry like they do to StLouis?
StLouis,s wife can race anywhere in Ontario, but he seems to only drive nowadays at Western Fair,,,,no Flamboro or Mohawk
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It never fails these horsemen do it to themselves. Apparently from what I heard today the phone pics have been sent to PETA because of the slap on the wrist by AGCO and PETA has responded.
HOW DID THEY RESPOND? BET WE HEAR ZERO.
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5 pages on a nobody trainer posted by fossil aged crying has beens and never weres.
I learned tons.
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5 pages on a nobody trainer posted by fossil aged crying has beens and never weres.
I learned tons.
THE KEY WAS READING IT
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The problem with that is Peta will bring negative publicity to the whole industry not just the perpetrator but as you mentioned earlier maybe that's part of the Weg & Ford conspiracy
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I just found out that there is a PETA incident report ticket opened on this.
GLAD TO SEE THEY ARE DONE WITH SANTA ANITA ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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As an industry no matter where you race , should we not be outraged at this man's actions towards his horses and fellow participants. You know damn well once media runs with this we all will be looked at the same and Agco is to blame
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Gave intent to appeal and has horses entered after suspension starts
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Is it possible the Agco could deem him undesirable and not reinstate him even after his suspension?
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I HOPE TRUDEAU PARDONS HIM
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I HOPE TRUDEAU PARDONS HIM
73cv.2
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73cv.2
He is a frog
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He is a frog
ALL SHOULD SERVE TIME
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French are exempt in Canada
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Chocolate Swirl 1:52:4 at Flammy tonight in a phoney nw 15,000 claimer....
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In the post big slot revenue days, you can do practically anything in canadian harness racing.
Most of us believe "Appeal" usually reserved for those who truly feel theyve got a case....Not for those caught-red handed...it simply bastardizes the word appeal.
Animal safety be damned. ((and in this case, I understand allegedly a young driver might have been in harm's way too.....can police ever get involved, if horsey-set dont?)
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The guy belongs behind bars and the tracks and commission that allow it to continue do to. Wait until the news media and animal activists run with this
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Chocolate Swirl 1:52:4 at Flammy tonight in a phoney nw 15,000 claimer....
the judges called him in to explain......like something is gonna really happen to him...
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152:4, in February, 1/2 mile track, tight lines, a bow in his neck coming to the wire, plugs in...DISGUSTING.. .
If the race secretary or track management had any balls they would tell him, Your presence or entries at this track are no longer required...bye bye...
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152:4, in February, 1/2 mile track, tight lines, a bow in his neck coming to the wire, plugs in...DISGUSTING.. .
What's he gonna say that he beat the snot out the poor cocksucker and filled his belly with bleach and soda
If the race secretary or track management had any balls they would tell him, Your presence or entries at this track are no longer required...bye bye...
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this entire process is a joke
i was under the impression he had a hearing on friday with the AGCO but cant find anything on their website
as for chocolate swirl last night another joke, and not like the previous trainers of the horse are unable to get one to "go"
i know it is a a bit of a boys club and keep everything locked down but if this guy was stealing money from me on the track i might be upset
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The AGCO will only give you what they think you should know and when it comes to highlighting their incompetence by allowing this, forget it. The injustice to the bettors and the honest horsemen is what is killing the sport. They all should be behind bars for this but it will never ever happen.
QUESTIONS? COMPLAINTS? CONTACT US:
Anytime via the iAGCO online portal
or Mon-Fri 8:30am-5:00pm
416-326-8700 / 1-800-522-2876 (toll-free in Ontario)
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Call and tell them how to do their job ?because we sure the fick know they don't know how not want to do it
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Call and tell them how to do their job ?because we sure the fick know they don't know how not want to do it
YEAH LET ME KNOW HOW THAT GOES!!!!
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His horses went stone cold yesterday after a big weekend
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Exactly ! If they were doing anything, he would have been suspended immediately
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Feb 26th at Western Fair;
Judges report:
Fred Bourgault was in to speak to the judges about investigative report. A review will be held at Flamboro on March 8 to give him a chance to have representation.
What will happen to him?
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IF they were smart they'd draw blood on all his horses and camp out at his farm the days he is racing, see how they race then.
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A couple more winners last night. Heard he has Brealey helping him out
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This is seriously a joke... Can't believe this POS stays in business... Any thoughts???
Top Trainers at Flamboro Downs
Top Winning Trainers for the Year
January 1 Through March 1, 2020
TRAINERS Sts 1st 2nd 3rd $Won Win% UTRS
Frederick Bourgault 45 17 6 6 67,378 37.8 .496
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A complete waste of skin and air protected by the Agco bubble
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https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/3-16-20/choclate-swirl-wires-them.html
Standardbredcanad a brain dead fucks, bragging this goof up
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https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/3-16-20/choclate-swirl-wires-them.html
Standardbredcanad a brain dead fucks, bragging this goof up
Standardbred Canada is as corrupt as them all, look no further then Ted Smith , look it his list of trainers