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Title: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on February 01, 2020, 05:44:20 AM
$2,592,152 ….2020

$2,874,831 …. 2019

13 RACES BOTH NIGHTS, LETS HEAR THE GURAL ASS KISSERS,

LINE FORMS BELOW
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: TheGrimReaper on February 01, 2020, 07:58:56 AM
Maybe just more harness gamblers dying off, with no new ones.....the sport in general...
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on February 01, 2020, 08:12:55 AM
yep,no one replace us old timers like me
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: JL52 on February 01, 2020, 08:33:19 AM
New betting menu starts NEXT week. Card was decimated by more than a dozen scratches of Saratoga based horses. So, this comparison is not fair
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Smalltimer7932 on February 01, 2020, 08:34:46 AM
Why dont you add both sat and friday together  that's over 5million in two days ,what is your sample size ? Mohawk wished they had that much rite now from two days .its off some but given changes and now Feb 7tons of other changes to soon to say  it's wrong.........
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Smalltimer7932 on February 01, 2020, 08:36:53 AM
What other harness track that does 5 million in two days unless it's a stakes card
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: mwins on February 01, 2020, 09:48:58 AM
Mohawk handle was $2,140,507 Friday night on a pedestrian 10 race card.

Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on February 01, 2020, 09:50:06 AM
New betting menu starts NEXT week. Card was decimated by more than a dozen scratches of Saratoga based horses. So, this comparison is not fair

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: bestbetter on February 01, 2020, 10:41:49 AM
I like the format they have now...
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: the master on February 01, 2020, 10:59:03 AM
Just another bunch of sour, doomsday naysayers! The only thing plummeting around here is the number of horseplop contributors!
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on February 01, 2020, 11:03:05 AM
Just another bunch of sour, doomsday naysayers! The only thing plummeting around here is the number of horseplop contributors!

ITS NOT THE MENU OR THE PEOPLE ITS THE PRODUCT ITSELF
AND EVERYTHING RELATED TO IT I.E HARNESS BOARDS?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on February 01, 2020, 02:30:46 PM
Facts are not allowed here.

We like to make shit up and wing it on this forum.

 ngc3

WE EMBELLISH FACTS SPRINKLED WITH HORSESHIT BUT THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE...
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on February 01, 2020, 03:25:01 PM
New betting menu starts NEXT week. Card was decimated by more than a dozen scratches of Saratoga based horses. So, this comparison is not fair

Agree here are facts - not bluster from Gural haters who only post when the numbers support their argument.

There were 26 scratches last night at The Meadowlands over 20% of the horses entered

16 scratches were from the Saratoga quarantine --- 7 scratches were for misc.

So total handle year over year was down just under 10%



Also Mohawk/Woodbine's handle for 10 races was a respectable 2,140,507, but in $U.S.D. was really 1,626,785 which is still a nice night.

The Meadowlands avg per race 1/31/20 about 200k, Mohawk/Woodbine avg per race about 163k

The Meadowlands and Mohawk/Woodbine are the top 2 handle harness tracks in North America.



Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: NJ The best on February 01, 2020, 07:14:49 PM
Is what it is Yonkers only did 700k that’s the game today
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on February 02, 2020, 09:33:40 AM
LAST NIGHT  $3,068,864

LAST YEAR   $3,147,209

A FEW OF THE BUCKS LOST MAY HAVE GONE TO THE SPORTS BETTING ROUTE, WHERE THE HORSEMEN REALLY DONT GET ANYTHING.  BUT IF YOU THINK THAT IS POSITIVE CHANGE, THE GAME IS IN GREAT HANDS
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on February 03, 2020, 03:29:09 PM
LAST NIGHT  $3,068,864

LAST YEAR   $3,147,209

A FEW OF THE BUCKS LOST MAY HAVE GONE TO THE SPORTS BETTING ROUTE, WHERE THE HORSEMEN REALLY DONT GET ANYTHING.  BUT IF YOU THINK THAT IS POSITIVE CHANGE, THE GAME IS IN GREAT HANDS

Im pretty sure The Meadowlands adds a MINIMUM of 1,000,000 per year to the purse account from SPORTS BETTING profits, so YES I WOULD SAY THATS A POSITIVE CHANGE!!
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on February 08, 2020, 04:22:08 AM
 2020 DEBUT OF NEW BETTING MENU

$2,534,709.00

2019  AND THAT ROTTEN OLD BETTING MENU HANDLE

$2,927,805

400K LESS IN HANDLE WITH THAT HIGHLY TOUTED NEW BETTING MENU


 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

AND YOU FUCKTARDS STILL SUCK THAT JEWS COCK
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: harnesstimes on February 08, 2020, 06:13:38 AM
2020 DEBUT OF NEW BETTING MENU

$2,534,709.00

2019  AND THAT ROTTEN OLD BETTING MENU HANDLE

$2,927,805

400K LESS IN HANDLE WITH THAT HIGHLY TOUTED NEW BETTING MENU


 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

AND YOU FUCKTARDS STILL SUCK THAT JEWS COCK

you called this big loss of betting handle a week before is happened, that is very good.

 Jeff is more than likely to throw a shit fit and say you bettors are not very appreciative of all the work HE AND HE ALONE  did to keep harness racing in The WORLD. And if you don't start betting more, he is going to close the harness racing part of the operation and concentrate on the sports betting where punters have made his sports book the #1 on the east coast.  He will say you harness bettors SHOW HIM NO RESPECT THAT HE DESERVES,
AND JUDGING BY LAST NIGHTS NUMBERS.... HE WAS RIGHT!
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on February 08, 2020, 09:29:58 AM
Drag the post time a little more  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3. Responsible people put out a responsible product  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Maybe get some .10 exactas or trifectas  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on February 08, 2020, 10:48:26 AM
2020 DEBUT OF NEW BETTING MENU

$2,534,709.00

2019  AND THAT ROTTEN OLD BETTING MENU HANDLE

$2,927,805

400K LESS IN HANDLE WITH THAT HIGHLY TOUTED NEW BETTING MENU


 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

AND YOU FUCKTARDS STILL SUCK THAT JEWS COCK
Drag the post time a little more  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3. Responsible people put out a responsible product  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Maybe get some .10 exactas or trifectas  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm not sure what the point of these posts are? Other than show your constant bias/hate against Gural, but that's ok we are all have our opinions. 

Yes they had a down night, but you never post when the handle is up. The Meadowlands is still the #1 handle harness track in North America.

Why don't you rail about the low handle at Yonkers, I tell you why because it doesn't fit you bias. You two are like stalkers.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: The Exporter on February 08, 2020, 11:18:15 AM
At the Meadowlands, you have $10K claimers racing for $9K. NJ owned or sired $10K-$12.5 claimers racing for $13.7K and $7.5K claimers going for $8.125K. I don't hear any complaints there. Nothing, but the same vengeful, lowlife bigots showing off their pitiful an putrid hate for life.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on February 08, 2020, 11:32:01 AM
At the Meadowlands, you have $10K claimers racing for $9K. NJ owned or sired $10K-$12.5 claimers racing for $13.7K and $7.5K claimers going for $8.125K. I don't hear any complaints there. Nothing, but the same vengeful, lowlife bigots showing off their pitiful an putrid hate for life.

Rats racing for more money, means what, they are still OVER PRICED RATS  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: The Exporter on February 08, 2020, 12:35:33 PM
Rats racing for more money, means what, they are still OVER PRICED RATS  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
So, now your problem is market valuation. What a sour old cocksucker. That Mane weather is really depressing.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: the master on February 09, 2020, 10:03:25 AM
What's the point??? Posting these figures at 4:22 am??? Must really bother you to want to post negativity about the Meadowlands at 4:22  and edit at 4:24 am.....an unhealthy obsession, I'd say.
You're losing some great sleep.   73cv.2
                         tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: E E Doogie on February 10, 2020, 05:24:38 AM
$2,856,554 tonight (excluding the $38,000 on the Can-Am bet)----------$2,751,957 last year.

that shows all this NEW SHIT, is nothing but window dressing, it means NOTHING
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on February 15, 2020, 03:44:02 AM
last year ….2019   $2,661,341

last night ...2020      $2,187,159

Both nights 13 races

over a half million, $500,000 for you folks in the bean counting dept. 
   LESS in TOTAL HANDLE. 

LESS  in TOTAL HANDLE...

Where was your valentine for Jewfry?   

BRING BACK THE OLD BETTING MENU
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: the master on February 15, 2020, 07:17:46 AM
Was it 20 degrees last year ass wipe?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: harnesstimes on February 15, 2020, 07:23:57 AM
Was it 20 degrees last year ass wipe?

Never been 20, in my living room.  I pay the heat bill.

Q   since when does temp figure in the handle?
A  when you have a Gural ass kisser in the house
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Heavy Hitter on February 15, 2020, 07:29:30 AM
 Under the GREAT TRUMP ECONOMY, HANDLE SHOULD BE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH.  IF IT ISNT … YOU are doing something WRONG
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on February 15, 2020, 09:36:41 AM
100% correct
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on February 15, 2020, 12:10:14 PM
Get the woe is me towel out. You know it's coming. 

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Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: trottingstud on February 15, 2020, 01:55:08 PM
I know most of you don't have a woman to keep you company but when valentines day is on a friday my wife says no horses tonight we have a date.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Bernie Madoff on February 15, 2020, 05:22:07 PM
I know most of you don't have a woman to keep you company but when valentines day is on a friday my wife says no horses tonight we have a date.






How was the date ?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on February 15, 2020, 07:20:02 PM
I know most of you don't have a woman to keep you company but when valentines day is on a friday my wife says no horses tonight we have a date.

Don't try and confuse people with facts, they will tell you your a Gural ass kisser.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on February 15, 2020, 07:54:02 PM





How was the date ?

PUSSY WHIPPED...
SHE BANGED HIM IN THE BUTT
THEY HAD A GREAT DATE
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on February 15, 2020, 07:54:53 PM
Don't try and confuse people with facts, they will tell you your a Gural ass kisser.

Do you really think the state will accept the los alamitos and 20 degree weather facts when it's time to evaluate the subsidy?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on February 15, 2020, 08:39:53 PM
Do you really think the state will accept the los alamitos and 20 degree weather facts when it's time to evaluate the subsidy?

No I don't!

But Valentines Day may have had something to do with the lower handle, some nights will be less than last year & some will be more.

My point was the anti Gural stalkers only post when the numbers are down and fit their bias. My other point was who ever doesn't agree with the anti Gural crowd are called ass kissers. If you have to stoop to name calling to try and prove your point, you don't have a very strong point.

I do believe 2020's yearly handle will be more than 2019. Just like 2019 was more than 2018.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on February 16, 2020, 01:06:01 AM
Sat Feb 16, 2019  Total Handle $3,166,919.00 for 13 races

Sat Feb 15, 2020  Total Handle $2,702,878.00 for 13 races

I guess the BIG Valentine party is still going on ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Jctoronto on February 16, 2020, 01:39:50 AM
Solid meadowlands $$number tonight...a couple reasons incl.

-def. had mohawk fans staying til end because of mohawks 400,000 mandatory hi5 at 11pm et
-chicago live got going too.

Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on February 16, 2020, 09:23:11 AM
Last year Pocono was not open on Saturdays in the month of February.  It is this year and that can detract wagers to the Meadowlands.  The subsidy works when all of the tracks are open in the spring and the Meadowlands can then compete for horses instead of losing them to Pennsylvania, namely Pocono and Chester.

The state is not going to be interested in hearing about poconos 300k handle as an excuse.

Also, I doubt the state will acknowledge valentine's day, los alamitos  dark night or a 3 degree temp change from last year.

The handle must improve immediately, substantially and remain consistent or the subsidy is gone.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on February 23, 2020, 06:54:46 AM
HANDLE CONTINUES IN A FREE FALL COMPARED TO LASY YEARS PRE WELFARE NUMBERS

$2,687,050 ….  2020 

$2,901,321 ….  2019

TAKE AWAY THE PURSE GIFT UNTIL THE HANDLE IS ABOVE LAST YEARS NUMBERS

LOOKS LIKE GURAL AND SETTLEMORE TOLD A LIE, TO GET THE PURSE MONEY FROM THE TAX PAYERS
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Brown jug on February 23, 2020, 08:36:22 AM
it is hard to explain
watched races from many tracks saturday night
there is no doubt the big m is the best racing
wether pocono etc is racing on a saturday night should not matter in general
if the big m cannot dominate on a saturday night there is an issue
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Atthetrack7 on February 23, 2020, 08:50:33 AM
 actually easy to explain, horsemen have drugged, cheated, stiffed, juiced their way to extinction and the sports book of the operation has been given the job of saving harness racing... for how long will  the stubborn one allow this?.. out of those handle #'s , so little of it is profit if any
  how can we get a 50 cent pick 4 in sports betting or dime supers?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: dinkadoo on February 23, 2020, 08:59:45 AM
it is hard to explain
watched races from many tracks saturday night
there is no doubt the big m is the best racing
wether pocono etc is racing on a saturday night should not matter in general
if the big m cannot dominate on a saturday night there is an issue
easy to explain

as a former poster would say -- it's a dead game laddie

Propped up by the welfare paychecks paid by casino's and racebooks.

Best Racing / Worst Racing --- doesn't matter, interest continues to decline.

Management, Racing Commissions and Horsemen could do something, anything to try and turn it around but it's February 23rd. Welfare check will be in the mailbox soon.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: The Exporter on February 23, 2020, 09:42:01 AM
..."can not dominate"? The Meadowlands consistently garners the majority of the harness market, in the USA. Pocono, $300,000 vs M1, $3,000,000. A 10:1 domination. When all tracks are in full season, about 12 or so racing the same night as M1, The Meadowlands will still have better than a 50% share of the market.
 The challenge is adding new customers to harness racing.   
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: dinkadoo on February 23, 2020, 10:21:52 AM
..."can not dominate"? The Meadowlands consistently garners the majority of the harness market, in the USA. Pocono, $300,000 vs M1, $3,000,000. A 10:1 domination. When all tracks are in full season, about 12 or so racing the same night as M1, The Meadowlands will still have better than a 50% share of the market.
 The challenge is adding new customers to harness racing.
but does it matter if the Meds has 50%    --   60%   -   hell if they have 80of the market

does it matter if they can't support themselves without subsidy checks.

We can compare the Meds v Yonkers, woohoo the Meds crushes
We can compare the Meds v Pocono, woohoo the Meds crushes
We can compare the Meds v Any Track, woohoo the Meds Crushes

But does the Meds sustain themselves without outside money propping them up ? Does it matter if you can say you are the best of the money losing industry ?

Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on February 23, 2020, 11:42:21 AM
but does it matter if the Meds has 50%    --   60%   -   hell if they have 80of the market

does it matter if they can't support themselves without subsidy checks.

We can compare the Meds v Yonkers, woohoo the Meds crushes
We can compare the Meds v Pocono, woohoo the Meds crushes
We can compare the Meds v Any Track, woohoo the Meds Crushes

But does the Meds sustain themselves without outside money propping them up ? Does it matter if you can say you are the best of the money losing industry ?

THIS POST SHOULD SETTLE IT...
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: the master on February 23, 2020, 11:54:57 AM
 :1 :1 :1 :1 :1
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on February 23, 2020, 01:47:02 PM
but does it matter if the Meds has 50%    --   60%   -   hell if they have 80of the market

does it matter if they can't support themselves without subsidy checks.

We can compare the Meds v Yonkers, woohoo the Meds crushes
We can compare the Meds v Pocono, woohoo the Meds crushes
We can compare the Meds v Any Track, woohoo the Meds Crushes

But does the Meds sustain themselves without outside money propping them up ? Does it matter if you can say you are the best of the money losing industry ?

Very GOOD POST  tmbz1 tmbz1

Yes the Meds crushes, but it ALSO requires the MOST welfare and CRIES for the MOST WELFARE.

Somehow the "BEST and CRUSH" doesn't relate to WELFARE / SUBSIDY  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: dinkadoo on February 23, 2020, 02:27:09 PM
The fact is Pocono being open in February now DOES take away a portion of the betting pie vs. last year.  It was discussed in January in the DRF that it could affect the Meadowlands handle in February. The handle was UP $44 million last year over 2018 with the subsidy.  You are effusive in your hating about a few hundred thousand dollar difference now with Pocono open when it was closed last year.  Without the subsidy, the handle would drop in April through August with smaller fields again.  You guys NEVER mention the $44 million increase in handle last year because it destroys your narrative and your silence was deafening last year with no posting on the MASSIVE increases that were seen week by week!
but straight from the Meds bosses mouth.....
Everyday the Meds are open,,... they lose money...…
Handle up
Handle down
Handle Schmandle

They lose money without the subsidy.....
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on February 23, 2020, 04:03:07 PM
but straight from the Meds bosses mouth.....
Everyday the Meds are open,,... they lose money...…
Handle up
Handle down
Handle Schmandle

They lose money without the subsidy.....

This may or may not be true?

But every other standardbred track loses money with their welfare/subsidy.

Why is the Meadowlands always the whipping boy?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Racing Troll on February 23, 2020, 04:24:39 PM
The racing is so much better at other tracks, and too many a holes work on the meadowlands broadcast... so I bet elsewhere
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Dingus on February 23, 2020, 05:10:52 PM
The racing is so much better at other tracks, and too many a holes work on the meadowlands broadcast... so I bet elsewhere

Now we know why the Meadowlands handle is down compared to last year.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Mr. Fix-It on February 25, 2020, 12:49:30 PM
I'd like to see Gural dead broke and living in a pup tent under the GWB. Looking like the Duke brothers in Coming to America.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on February 29, 2020, 01:14:08 PM
No posting facts that disprove the anti Gual/Meadowlands crowd.

I will say in advance tonight's(Sat) numbers will probably be down from last year?

Last year they had a huge night of over 3.6mil.

Some nights will be up and some will be down, but overall 2020 should be more than 2019 just like 2019 was more than 2018.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on February 29, 2020, 05:45:08 PM
The Big M the best what  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp. Lets see.

1. Can't get post time on schedule  73cv.2 73cv.2.

2. Introduced more gimmick bets which only attracts number players  ;D ;D.

3. Mohawk offers guaranteed pools, what happened to the Pig M's  :P :P :P.

4. Best track races 2 nights a week  ngc3 ngc3

5. Mohawk offers free programs and free video streaming  11.wp 11.wp

6. Jefffffiiiieeee Goofraaaaalllll the BEST at crying  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

7. And much like DJT, the best at diverting, twisting the truth  73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2

Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on February 29, 2020, 06:24:19 PM
The Big M the best what  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp. Lets see.

1. Can't get post time on schedule  73cv.2 73cv.2.

2. Introduced more gimmick bets which only attracts number players  ;D ;D.

3. Mohawk offers guaranteed pools, what happened to the Pig M's  :P :P :P.

4. Best track races 2 nights a week  ngc3 ngc3

5. Mohawk offers free programs and free video streaming  11.wp 11.wp

6. Jefffffiiiieeee Goofraaaaalllll the BEST at crying  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

7. And much like DJT, the best at diverting, twisting the truth  73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2


Actually #'s 6 & 7 sound more like you.....

6.  All YOU do is CRY about Gural and the Meadowlands..... YOU sound like a stalker.

7. Your posts are all about diverting & twisting the truth, some vendetta you have going, did Gural kick your dog in the past?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on March 01, 2020, 03:39:30 AM
LAST NIGHT...………………….. $2,973,673...

LAST YEAR ………………………..$3,603,195


THAT IS OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS  LESS IN TOTAL HANDLE. TAKE THEIR NEW RUSE, A PIC 6, AND SHOVE IT

DONT KNOW HOW A HANDLE, DOWN OVER  600K FROM LAST YEAR, CAN BE THIS YEARS BEST WEEKEND, BUT I GUESS DAVE 'NOT SO' LITTLE  LIKES THOSE FREE BUFFETS , SO HE STRETCHES THE NUMBERS TRUTH, KIND OF LIKE HE STRETCHES HIS WAISTLINE.

WHOSE FAULT IS IT?

YOU GURAL ASS KISSERS JUST AINT HOLDING UP YOUR END OF THE BARGAIN, OR DID SEVERAL OF THE CARTEL MEMBERS MISS LAST NIGHTS CARD DUE TO FEAR OF CORONAVIRUS FEARS?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Dingus on March 01, 2020, 08:13:25 AM
LAST NIGHT...………………….. $2,973,673...

LAST YEAR ………………………..$3,603,195


THAT IS OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS  LESS IN TOTAL HANDLE. TAKE THEIR NEW RUSE, A PIC 6, AND SHOVE IT

DONT KNOW HOW A HANDLE, DOWN OVER  600K FROM LAST YEAR, CAN BE THIS YEARS BEST WEEKEND, BUT I GUESS DAVE 'NOT SO' LITTLE  LIKES THOSE FREE BUFFETS , SO HE STRETCHES THE NUMBERS TRUTH, KIND OF LIKE HE STRETCHES HIS WAISTLINE.

WHOSE FAULT IS IT?

YOU GURAL ASS KISSERS JUST AINT HOLDING UP YOUR END OF THE BARGAIN, OR DID SEVERAL OF THE CARTEL MEMBERS MISS LAST NIGHTS CARD DUE TO FEAR OF CORONAVIRUS FEARS?

For 7 years, you have been posted the same shit.
Always 1 sided, never objective.
So what have you accomplished in 7 years?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Atthetrack7 on March 01, 2020, 08:23:19 AM
Looks like Jewfry told a huge LIE, when he told state of New jersey politicians that handle would RISE noticeably with the welfare gift to NJ horsemen.

 Looks like he will have to slide some under the table campaign cash to the politicians to keep this graft going on. 
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Calhoun on March 01, 2020, 08:29:39 AM
For 7 years, you have been posted the same shit.
Always 1 sided, never objective.
So what have you accomplished in 7 years?
E16W and Hush perform a valuable service by balancing out the weekly Bullshit propoganda Gural puts out.  I commend them.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Bernie Madoff on March 01, 2020, 10:24:15 AM
E16W and Hush perform a valuable service by balancing out the weekly Bullshit propoganda Gural puts out.  I commend them.




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Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on March 01, 2020, 10:37:06 AM
E16W and Hush perform a valuable service by balancing out the weekly Bullshit propoganda Gural puts out.  I commend them.

PLUS THE CARTOONS ARE AMUSING
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Calhoun on March 01, 2020, 11:13:30 AM
PLUS THE CARTOONS ARE AMUSING
Hook Nose Heeb  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on March 01, 2020, 11:25:56 AM
Hook Nose Heeb  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

JEWFRY AND TABLECLOTH SHIRTS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on March 01, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
E16W and Hush perform a valuable service by balancing out the weekly Bullshit propoganda Gural puts out.  I commend them.

How about giving us an example of the "weekly Bullshit propaganda"?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Bernie Madoff on March 01, 2020, 02:46:09 PM
How about giving us an example of the "weekly Bullshit propaganda"?





You have sadly been indoctrinated.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Calhoun on March 01, 2020, 03:45:33 PM
How about giving us an example of the "weekly Bullshit propaganda"?
Can you hang tight for just a bit?

I got a couple of my best people putting together a list and, maybe, a video.

Please stand by.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on March 01, 2020, 04:41:13 PM
Can you hang tight for just a bit?

I got a couple of my best people putting together a list and, maybe, a video.

Please stand by.

  WELL WORTH THE WAIT
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on March 07, 2020, 04:51:14 AM
FREE PROGRAMS DONT STOP THE HANDLE SLIDE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS ONE... ANOTHER 300K DROP IN HANDLE.... NO MASKS TO KEEP THE CORONO FROM KICKING IN

2020 LAST NIGHT HANDLE   $2,503,646
2019   SAME NIGHT HANDLE $2,799,506

TONIGHTS NUMBER TO SHOOT FOR... A RATHER LOFTY $3.175,430, MARCH MADNESS SOON TO RAID HARNESS HANDLE
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 07, 2020, 07:17:02 AM
People stopped watching because the "Dave Little" factor got to them. The man does not stop talking. Does he get paid the number of words spoken? After a while, you have to shut him off. Anyone else agrees or disagree?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Fatboy on March 07, 2020, 11:20:52 AM
AGREED
BETTORS CRIED FOR FREE STUFF AND HANDLE DROPS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Jctoronto on March 07, 2020, 11:33:06 AM
when you guys break down numbers. Find out how much less toronto hub sending in..mohawk and champions teletheatres.....
Im in eastern toronto off tracks sites..a lot more nights where you can sit where you want....hong kong and mainland asians who have always loved their thorougbreds and enjoy occasional harness nights are being tapped out. Gulfstream santabanita acqueduct oaklawn: 4 races every 15 minutes 3pet -5pet will do that to a horsecrazy ya know.

Anyway..canadian $$ into nj ny penn chi year over year would be factor id think.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on March 08, 2020, 05:02:43 AM
LOOKS LIKE JOBS ARE ON THE LINE

2020  $2,845,231

2019  $3.175,430


WHO IS FIRST TO GET THE KNIFE?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Harness Stats on March 08, 2020, 02:08:52 PM
People stopped watching because the "Dave Little" factor got to them. The man does not stop talking. Does he get paid the number of words spoken? After a while, you have to shut him off. Anyone else agrees or disagree?


I'm going to agree with this as I also stopped listening to both Dave's last year especially the big little.  I'll watch the races but I can't listen to them. 

Hilarious when Little does the TVG commenting and tells people to get in their wagers when the pools have already closed due to the transmission delay

More enjoyable in the old days.

There was a night when Zocale was the host and they interviewed Monique Vag  (now on the Woodbine Mohawk telecast) when she was only 19 and only bet on races and was just visiting the Big M.  Good forecasting there
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: the master on March 08, 2020, 03:47:06 PM
LOOKS LIKE JOBS ARE ON THE LINE

2020  $2,845,231

2019  $3.175,430


WHO IS FIRST TO GET THE KNIFE?
                                               Hopefully you!
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on March 11, 2020, 04:14:07 PM
 WONDER IF JEWFRY WILL BEG THE STATE TO REIMBURSE FOR HIS HANDLE LOSS THIS WEEKEND DUE TO THE CORONA EFFECT?
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on March 14, 2020, 07:31:08 AM
handle 2019...  $2,675,593

handle 2020...  a big fat 0

will Jewfry use this in an attempt to get an even larger handout from New Jersey taxpayers?

Tonights goal to reach is $2,919,538

I bet they don't even come close!
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on March 14, 2020, 10:46:32 AM
"I let the cheaters race so I could catch the cheaters".

But never did.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Thank you for saving racing Mr Jew Lie  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp.
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on March 14, 2020, 02:00:12 PM
Best part of the Knew Pig M KNOT racing Saturday is, Pocono and Yonkers listed as being cancelled,

Knew Pig M not even listed on XpressBet  11.wp  ngc3 11.wp ngc3
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on March 15, 2020, 09:16:10 AM
 HEY DAVID LITTLE HERE IS A NEW HANDLE STAT FOR YOU


2 NITES IN A ROW, MEADOWLANDS HANDLE WAS LESS THAN $1.


Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Dingus on March 15, 2020, 09:42:09 AM
HL and Exit- You both sound even worse than the clowns you usually are.

Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on March 21, 2020, 05:14:19 AM
HANDLE ON FRIDAY  WAS ZERO, COMPARED TO LAST YEARS 2.6 MILLION.  HANDLE ON SAT WILL BE ZERO COMPARED TO LAST YEARS 3 MILLION.

BUT HAVE NO FEAR, JEWFRY HAS ADREED TO PAY ALL HIS EMPLOYEES THEIR SALARY ONCE HE GETS A CHECK FROM TRUMP
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Exit 16W on March 29, 2020, 06:00:13 AM

HANDLE LAST NIGHT WAS , ZERO, ZIP, NADA.

COMPARE THAT TO LAST YEARS $2.7 MILLION.  JEWFY EXPECTED TO ASK FOR A TRUMP BAILOUT OF BOTH HIS RACING AND SPORTS BOOK BIDNESS.   HIS LOSS OF MARCH MADNESS REVENUE WILL CUT HARNESS PURSES BY 50% OR MORE IF RACING EVER RESUMES
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 29, 2020, 08:31:08 AM
Harness Racing gets NOTHING from the sports betting at the BIg M. Nata
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: Atthetrack7 on March 29, 2020, 09:50:21 AM
Harness Racing gets NOTHING from the sports betting at the BIg M. Nata

Sorry, but indirectly it do.  Jeff don't hesitate to tell you he has dug into his own pocket, don't know how with those alligator arms of his, to fund the purse account.
  So, if he is making money being a bookie and by all accountants who stayed at Holiday Inn last night HE  IS.  That money is coming from the Sports Book Bettors
Title: Re: NEW BETTING MENU @ m.. HANDLE PLUMMETS
Post by: SAW on March 29, 2020, 06:00:32 PM
Harness Racing gets NOTHING from the sports betting at the BIg M. Nata

Yes they do and its not Indirectly

The sports betting adds a minimum of $1,000,000 a year to the purses at The Meadowlands.
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