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Title: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: AsPromised on September 15, 2019, 07:46:53 PM
$125,000 on the line.  #1 wins the race but gets placed last for "STARTING IN FRONT OF THE STARTING GATE".

Anyone ever here of that before?

Driver fault?  Track at fault for piss poor gate?
https://i.imgsafe.org/ec/eccf1af645.png
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: PIGLAND on September 15, 2019, 07:50:01 PM
travisty
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Papillon on September 15, 2019, 07:51:27 PM
that’s nuts

valid DQ

one time at Woodbine George Brennan had Life Source from the 12 hole
the 2 broke behind the gate.. George took his spot left from the two hole

finished 2nd in big stakes... Dqd for unfair start
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 15, 2019, 08:29:17 PM
And they’d say take your and go the fuck home
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Calhoun on September 15, 2019, 09:15:05 PM
And they’d say take your and go the fuck home...
... and don't come back.
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on September 15, 2019, 09:16:25 PM
And they’d say take your and go the fuck home
agree
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on September 15, 2019, 09:16:42 PM
... and don't come back.
100% correct
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: therealdoctor on September 15, 2019, 10:24:15 PM
replay and photo is on StandarbredCanada . How does the starter not have the gate close enough to the rail that it couldnt happen?
There is enough room you could have had 2 or 3 inside the gate ??  This should be on the starter

Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: silent one on September 15, 2019, 10:29:42 PM
The filly went wire to wire and won easily, in what would have been a track record. I can not understand why a recall would not be called in that situation. Not as bad at the Baffert cover up, but still.

     Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Brown jug on September 15, 2019, 10:42:12 PM
here comes the lawsuit and i dont blame the owners
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: WTF Hanover on September 15, 2019, 10:56:44 PM
Video:

https://www.facebook.com/albertastandardbred/videos/2433713500048525/?t=2
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: wiggles44 on September 16, 2019, 05:36:50 AM
replay and photo is on StandarbredCanada . How does the starter not have the gate close enough to the rail that it couldnt happen?
There is enough room you could have had 2 or 3 inside the gate ??  This should be on the starter

starter has no control of the positioning of the starting gate
that falls on the gate driver

and anyone with half a brain knows they cannot leave in front of the gate
 ngc3
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: JL52 on September 16, 2019, 08:03:22 AM
While she was in front of the gate before the start, it appears she was behind just as they passed the starting pole. Agree?
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Watchandtell on September 16, 2019, 08:09:55 AM
Agreed. If you stop the video right before the start the #1's nose is slightly behind the gate.

Crap call for two reasons. 1) the driver should not be responsible for the incompetence of track staff and 2) there was no violation.

Parallel - if this kind of bullring has a couple of missing pileons marking the invisible line of the hubrail and a driver follows the line on the turn and effectively creates a shortcut, should they be DQ'ed? Maybe the time should be not allowed, but the driver was following track conditions.

BS call. I would be protesting this one.
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Superfecta on September 16, 2019, 08:27:43 AM
Worst case, place the winner 2nd. The top 2 were way ahead of the balance of the field.
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on September 16, 2019, 09:29:14 AM
Stable mate came 2nd and placed 1st so trainer still basically got paid (although 1-2 obviously better)
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: vinnie on September 16, 2019, 09:51:31 AM
Stable mate came 2nd and placed 1st so trainer still basically got paid (although 1-2 obviously better)
The trainer owned part of the horse that finished second and got placed first.
So he actually made more money after the DQ.
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Mazola on September 16, 2019, 09:55:37 AM
The racetrack is called Century Mile btw. It is in Edmonton...Centur y Downs is the Calgary track.
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: therealdoctor on September 16, 2019, 10:23:26 AM
starter has no control of the positioning of the starting gate
that falls on the gate driver

and anyone with half a brain knows they cannot leave in front of the gate
 ngc3

starter could have sounded recall if the wings truly had not been released.  Agree gate driver should be unemployed.  If you are referring to the driver with half a brain knowing - the driver in this case actually does have a clue and is probably one of the best all around horsemen in Canada (pull his UDRS and UTRS). 

This one isnt on the driver and he was behind the gate at the starting pole -
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Zoooooming By! on September 16, 2019, 11:24:31 AM
That was the worst start of a race period. The starter should have had the inquiry.
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: okdfool on September 16, 2019, 11:26:30 AM
Thats crazy, she did not even get a head start, she was under the gate, not in front of it,
she was even with the 6,  at the start,
Bad call judges...
Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Papillon on September 16, 2019, 11:45:49 AM
 this horse should have been declared a non starter instead of a DQ

would have been more fair to the bettors

then again , handle means nothing as we all know

Title: Re: Century Downs $125,000...........DQ Race 9
Post by: Papillon on September 17, 2019, 01:37:43 PM
non starter!?!?! NO WAY then the owner still gets screwed

it should have been a recall or left to stand...but as usual harness racing fucked up again

yes recall would be best

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