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Title: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: LUCPARK on September 09, 2019, 06:18:29 PM
yearling sale this week at ohio,,then lex then indy then Harrisburg

im gonna try to visit all of them .. tmbz1

ANY TIPS ...I NEED YOUR HELP ;D ;D ;D tmbz1 tmbz1




pls help..

I want absorb as much knowledge from you PIGEONS

  as I possibly can. tmbz1

 tmbz1
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: spaheaven on September 09, 2019, 06:26:39 PM
Always buy the ones who shit on stage during the auction...Fool proof method...then take whatever you bought and give it Teague so he can put them on the Barry Bonds regimen.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Equus Caballus on September 09, 2019, 06:28:29 PM
Bring your checkbook

Best Advice
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: zoot on September 09, 2019, 06:52:29 PM
if ur looking for serious answers:

the longer the pastern, the faster the horse.

the greater the angle of the pastern to the ankle joint, the more likely to be injured.

no foot no horse. good, evenly symetric hoof with good solid walls

the engine drives the truck. nice big muscular ass

good distance between eyes shows a capacity for intelligence. smart goes a long way on the track

good thick long tail. never saw a good horse with a rat tail
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: PIGLAND on September 09, 2019, 07:12:03 PM
its not the horse its the trainer,
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: zoot on September 09, 2019, 07:25:25 PM
i must disagree. ive always felt the moment a foal hits the ground they either are or arent. only so much a trainer can do to help one and the good ones overcome bad trainers.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: LUCPARK on September 09, 2019, 07:34:52 PM
LONGER THE PASTERN ,,FASTER THE HORSE,,

I MUST REMB THAT tmbz1
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: zoot on September 09, 2019, 07:44:32 PM
mike gagliardi believed that 100%
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: slimshady on September 09, 2019, 07:51:20 PM
Zoot  ...   The best eventually have a stride where they reach out, not up and out.   Can you see that in a video at this age or does that develop during training?
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: zoot on September 09, 2019, 08:01:44 PM
in my opinion, obviously, the length of pastern is a constant throughout a horse's career. adjustments to stride and motion up and down are made by lengthening or shortening the toe the horse is carrying. at one time, shoeing a standardbred was an art form. not so much these days.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Overcheck on September 09, 2019, 08:03:53 PM
Stand behind Brian Brown and just keep raising your hand.  Then when he turns around to look you do the same.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Equus Caballus on September 09, 2019, 09:15:08 PM
LONGER THE PASTERN ,,FASTER THE HORSE,,

I MUST REMB THAT tmbz1

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Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Jazzman on September 09, 2019, 09:19:30 PM
wide throat place your hand under jaw wider the better
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: LUCPARK on September 09, 2019, 09:20:58 PM
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STOP JACKASS  IM SERIOUS
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Equus Caballus on September 09, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
wide throat place your hand under jaw wider the better

My dad always taught me this
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: horses first on September 09, 2019, 10:16:50 PM
Long pastern yes can equal a fast horse but also the breakdown or the immature of a 2yr old can make that frustrating. I think I remember that was one trait of Tactial Landing when he sold? Videos when they can cover ground have some bounce and there feet aren't on the ground very long.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Emperor Dapple on September 09, 2019, 10:23:44 PM
yearling sale this week at ohio,,then lex then indy then Harrisburg

im gonna try to visit all of them .. tmbz1

ANY TIPS ...I NEED YOUR HELP ;D ;D ;D tmbz1 tmbz1




pls help..

I want absorb as much knowledge from you PIGEONS

  as I possibly can. tmbz1

 tmbz1


Just bring a copy of ' The Care and Training Of The Trotter & Pacer 1st edition" with you...Everything you need to know is in that book.. YOu will feel like Dancer & Haughton are standing right beside you giving advice on yearlings.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Zoooooming By! on September 10, 2019, 11:23:28 AM
Take a chance on the ones the big shots don't like. If they have decent breeding its worth taking a chance.

Low price cause no one is bidding on them and you can take a shot with a few for low cost. The big shots are not always right, and you might end up with one they didn't like that turns out to be a real good one. Colts are an added bonus.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Lance on September 10, 2019, 01:59:17 PM
I'm taking notes:
"big round ass"
"large deep throat"
"hot new young stallions"
....keep the tips coming.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Bernie Madoff on September 10, 2019, 03:27:21 PM
I'm taking notes:
"big round ass"
"large deep throat"
"hot new young stallions"
....keep the tips coming.




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Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: MR BRIONI on September 10, 2019, 03:47:57 PM



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BASED ON WHAT IVE JUST READ, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS BRING ZOOT
TO THE SALE WITH YOU.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: LUCPARK on September 10, 2019, 03:49:43 PM
BASED ON WHAT IVE JUST READ, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS BRING ZOOT
TO THE SALE WITH YOU.

HES REALLY OLD ;D ;D
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Bernie Madoff on September 10, 2019, 03:54:14 PM
HES REALLY OLD ;D ;D



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Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Zoooooming By! on September 11, 2019, 12:32:02 PM
Take a chance on the ones the big shots don't like. If they have decent breeding its worth taking a chance.

Low price cause no one is bidding on them and you can take a shot with a few for low cost. The big shots are not always right, and you might end up with one they didn't like that turns out to be a real good one. Colts are an added bonus.

http://ustrottingnews.com/groovy-joe-leads-freshman-colt-pacers-into-nyss-final/

My point exactly!
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: coryd03 on September 11, 2019, 06:49:00 PM
Confirmation is vital along with pedigree depth. Use the videos to rule out horses, but not to jump a poor bred, poorly put together colt to the top, just because it paces all day. These farms know how to get them to look great in the field. Body length, at least for pacers, is underrated and important. Hard for horses to pace fast when they're built to crossfire and interfere.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: coryd03 on September 11, 2019, 06:53:37 PM
Also, the "big" barns go for what I consider, the "obvious" lookers. You can pretty much call what barns will get which colts based on top looks, with equal pedigree depth. They're always the more well developed, bigger boned, "thick" yearlings. I agree they look good, but you can find value in finer boned,  well put together individuals, that meet your criteria.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Fatboy on September 11, 2019, 08:17:21 PM

Just bring a copy of ' The Care and Training Of The Trotter & Pacer 1st edition" with you...Everything you need to know is in that book.. YOu will feel like Dancer & Haughton are standing right beside you giving advice on yearlings.

AGREE
AFTER ALL A HORSE IS STILL A HORSE
OR JUST TAKE ERV WITH YA
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Lance on September 12, 2019, 09:14:06 AM
You are correct.....yearl ing sales are a very crooked business.

 A few years ago I looked at  40 horses who were Million dollar race winners, (Hambo, NA Cup, etc.)  I forget the exact numbers but it was around an average $45K yearling, the mare was average 12 yrs old when horse was foaled and it was average the 5th foal.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 12, 2019, 09:26:15 AM

 Don't go after a full brother or sister of a champion, for HUGE BUCKS


 they call it the "Cancelliere"
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: spaheaven on September 12, 2019, 10:15:22 AM
Don't go after a full brother or sister of a champion, for HUGE BUCKS


 they call it the "Cancelliere"

It's true...Michael Jordan's brother sucked,  Steph Curry's brother sucks, Peyton Manning's brother sucks...oops, ok Giants fans chime in lol.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: LUCPARK on September 12, 2019, 09:24:51 PM
These great ideas have been helping me alot
To stay off plops ngc3.

Thks boys tmbz1
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 12, 2019, 09:37:31 PM
JUST ASK MYRON ,,,,HE HAS GOOD ONES EVERY YEAR
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 13, 2019, 04:20:08 PM


 some real cheap horses @ the Ohio Jug sale right now

 we got 2 real sharp individuals



 A.T.C bought a bunch of stock
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 13, 2019, 04:22:22 PM


 CoryD could be a big player in Ohio next year, he bought some REALLY nice horses that could be real contenders next year, I wish him all the luck (he seems like 1 of the good guys).
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: LUCPARK on September 13, 2019, 05:22:31 PM

 some real cheap horses @ the Ohio Jug sale right now

 we got 2 real sharp individuals



 A.T.C bought a bunch of stock

atc bought for hiz partners adam is frugal tmbz1
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: coryd03 on September 14, 2019, 01:08:52 AM

 CoryD could be a big player in Ohio next year, he bought some REALLY nice horses that could be real contenders next year, I wish him all the luck (he seems like 1 of the good guys).

Thanks so much for the kind words. Fingers crossed some of them do indeed pan out. It can be a tough game as everyone knows. Very happy with what we got. Good luck to you with your purchases as well.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: marsh99 on September 14, 2019, 08:19:04 AM

 some real cheap horses @ the Ohio Jug sale right now


They were practically giving away some really good horses yesterday. Must have sucked for the breeders. Virgil didn't buy anything. Some bigger trainers were there but they only bought one or two. Not sure why Ohio hasn't garnered more interest given the large amounts of stakes money and the Stallion series tier.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: horses first on September 14, 2019, 09:27:39 AM
The east coast don't want to make that trek hell they hate shipping to the Meadows. It's been a regional state with Burke usually the big out of town player because he is close to the Meadows. Takter had the best My MVP, there haven't been many, but he raced all his races GC. I don't remember him once in the OHSS. Tony will have some Racing Hill stock this year. Will be interesting next season to see who What the Hill attracts as buyers.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: horses first on September 14, 2019, 09:41:05 AM
Also Downbytheseaside and Fear the Dragon. Jug sale will have new sale records next year. If Racing Hill does well his freshman season there maybe some bargains on other pacer yearlings.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 14, 2019, 12:59:59 PM
Thanks so much for the kind words. Fingers crossed some of them do indeed pan out. It can be a tough game as everyone knows. Very happy with what we got. Good luck to you with your purchases as well.


 Thank you sir, the smaller buyers had a chance to bring home some nice stock that would have been 2x or 3x what same breeding would collar in Lex or H'burg.

 Would be thrilled to see you continue to thrive with your new purchases, Roc- you too, with whatever you buy this year.
Title: Re: how to pick out a good yearling any ideas,, theres always something new to learn
Post by: TimTimTimbo on September 14, 2019, 06:05:31 PM
It's true...Michael Jordan's brother sucked,  Steph Curry's brother sucks, Peyton Manning's brother sucks...oops, ok Giants fans chime in lol.

I agree with that for the most part but one good exception would be Angus Hall, Conway Hall and Andover Hall but that mare Amour Angus was a beautiful looking specimen and just my opinion that I would take an Andover Hall over the other two any day but you obviously you could not go wrong as Conway Left Windsong's Legacy then Chapter Seven.  That whole family is something else
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