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Title: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: spaheaven on September 04, 2019, 03:58:58 PM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-casinos-facing-sports-154312168.html
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Calhoun on September 04, 2019, 04:08:38 PM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-casinos-facing-sports-154312168.html
hey dummy,

this is old news.

The Meadowlands has been the largest U.S. sportsbook for 6 months.

You Dummy
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 04, 2019, 05:37:38 PM
AND THE WORST REBATES
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Equus Caballus on September 04, 2019, 05:53:12 PM
instead of vegas and nj being at war  63z.uzi 63z.uzi 63z.uzi

they should focus on converting US players from that offshore crap and bringing them home MAGA!
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 04, 2019, 06:21:08 PM
Again it’s about rebates
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: spaheaven on September 04, 2019, 06:39:50 PM
hey dummy,

this is old news.

The Meadowlands has been the largest U.S. sportsbook for 6 months.

You Dummy

Stfu you coon lovin liberal who beats off to pics of Hillary every nite...Go visit your friends in Paterson.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: EPM on September 05, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
Who we got tonight men?
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: slivercharm on September 05, 2019, 08:39:41 PM
Who we got tonight men?

Bears
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: LUCPARK on September 06, 2019, 02:28:38 PM
Bears

DONATION tmbz1
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: MR.DALRAE on September 06, 2019, 02:57:29 PM
mazaratti MITCH SUCKS
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: LUCPARK on September 06, 2019, 02:57:54 PM
mazaratti MITCH SUCKS

OFF CORDINATOR IS JUNK
CALLED A TERRIBLE GAME
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 07, 2019, 10:55:14 PM
The article doesn't really mean shit but there's an interesting link to the story where Genting bought out Empire.  They HATE horse racing and they are very vocal about it.  They've already managed to kick NYRA out of Aqueduct.  There aren't many sands left in Monticello's hourglass.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: PIGLAND on September 07, 2019, 11:03:58 PM
The article doesn't really mean shit but there's an interesting link to the story where Genting bought out Empire.  They HATE horse racing and they are very vocal about it.  They've already managed to kick NYRA out of Aqueduct.  There aren't many sands left in Monticello's hourglass.
they may even fund peta
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 08, 2019, 12:19:34 AM
Not true about Monti. It actually strengthens their position. Genting bought out Empire to gain ownership of casino near Woodbury Commons. Racing is safe.
How do you figure?  Genting is the largest anti-racing lobby in New York State.  Racing hurts their profit with NYRA and it will still help provide for more losses in the Catskills.  They are a casino company first and foremost.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 10, 2019, 01:17:37 AM
The casino being built near Woodbury can't operate without racing.
Give it time, their lobby is gigantic.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: sonic on September 10, 2019, 03:43:42 AM
Again it’s about rebates
Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!..I cant resist..if he lived through
his first sexual thing in 10 years...did he learn something? sorry had to comment.:)
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 10, 2019, 11:26:34 PM
I don't think they are as powerful as you may think. There is growing sentiment by many NY legislatures that many casinos are failing due to the casinos being over run by Asians. Genting, being an Asian corporation may not have the leverage to control NY gaming.
Who told you that nonsense?  If there's a shred of truth to that then the state legislators are dumber than the stripes on Dalrae's froot of the looms.  If it weren't for the asians(who are bigger degenerate gamblers than anyone on this forum) Resorts Catskills and del Lago would have locked the doors already.  Racing is safe for now but don't think Genting's team isn't paying attention to the decoupling situation in Florida.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 11, 2019, 12:26:53 AM
Not nonsense. Casinos are flooded with Asians who are there only for the incentives offered to show up. Many are not gambling at all. Instead, they sell their incentives. Read it and weep know it all.

https://www.mcall.com/news/local/bethlehem/mc-sands-bethlehem-asian-bus-20140329-story.html
Been there, seen it, done that.  Casinos hate it but it's the cost of getting the whales in the casino.  The Sands has 26 bacarrat tables.  They need the asians otherwise they're wasting a whole shit ton of space.  Since when does the NYS legislature care about people who aren't being honest with their intentions in a casino?  Didn't the state government try to keep the only profitable NYS casino from getting a license?  By the way good job using a Pennsylvania issue for a New York argument.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 11, 2019, 12:40:06 AM
If you think it is just a PA issue, you're dumber than I thought. Take a break from your keyboard and come to Resort World in Thompson. It is jaw dropping how many Asians are there on a daily basis.
They built that casino to bus in the Asians.  They have 21 baccarat games.  The Asians are NOT what's bankrupting Resorts World Catskills, the overhead and interest on the heavily financed $1.2 billion IS.  That PA article was cute.  What they failed to mention was that they all have multiple ID's and get multiple free play cards.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 11, 2019, 12:59:40 AM
The biggest overhead is promoting the casino. The place is mobbed with people and is losing millions and the reason is the people aren't actually gambling. I guarantee they will modify their marketing to remedy this. Their business model was not to bus in non gambling Asians, it was to attract affluent people from the city for mini getaways. That is why they built a luxury hotel, updated the Concord golf course, linked the casino to ski resorts and built a water park.
The state pushed all that shit on them as they foolheartedly thought the casino could bring back the glory days of the Catskills.  The marketing budget pales in comparison in what they're paying in just interest.  Now that the gaming numbers suck they're in trouble.  It's common knowledge that Moody's isn't enthused.  Apparently no one paid attention to REVEL'S failure.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 11, 2019, 01:03:27 AM
One thing that cracks me up is Andy bent the rules to give the casinos to the people he wanted to have them.  When they started to fail Andy tried to wash his hands of the situation like the piece of shit that he is.  Waterloo is failing, Resorts is failing.  Rivers isn't in danger but they aren't doing well either.  The only one making money is the one he didn't want.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 11, 2019, 11:15:06 AM
They knew before they broke ground what they would have to pay in interest, as financing was in place. They aren't total idiots. They expected a return on their marketing, which didn't happen. Like I said, they will modify their target customer. They also are stepping up to bigger entertainment in 2020 with the likes of Springsteen and Billy Joel.
wait but you blamed the Asians for Resorts Catskills losing 40-50 million a quarter.  It's simply not true.  You've twisted and turned this in a way that it doesn't resemble the thread that was started.  Genting is pushing to decouple whether or not you like it.  I've had dealings with some of their suits.  They hate racing and they make no bones about it.  So Springsteen and Billy Joel are both going to play Resorts?  Bruce and Billy play stadiums(except for Billy's monthly at the Garden) and Bruce won't play a casino.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 12, 2019, 03:57:42 PM
Try and keep up. They are putting up a band shell for concerts near the water park. Non gambling Asians are why the casino is losing money. They are going to change their marketing plan. No way Genting is going to give up Woodbury opportunity which they will have to do if they get rid of racing. Sports Book is already a huge success. Last Sunday was packed.
YOU keep up.  A few busloads of chinese from the city are FAR from the reason that Resorts World Catskills is failing.  They WAY overbuilt.  It cost too much money and just the interest payments on A BILLION DOLLARS is killing them.  I have contacts there too.  They aren't giving the same  packages that the Sands is giving.  Last we knew the Sands is the big dog in PA.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Fatboy on September 12, 2019, 08:45:33 PM
You need new contacts Einstein and the only suits from Genting you have dealt with probably involve starch and pressing.

 ngc3
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 13, 2019, 11:28:02 AM
You need new contacts Einstein and the only suits from Genting you have dealt with probably involve starch and pressing.
the one is a total cunt and I met her playing roulette.  We still argue that NYRA was there first and that without them she doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Fatboy on September 13, 2019, 06:29:30 PM
the one is a total cunt and I met her playing roulette.  We still argue that NYRA was there first and that without them she doesn't exist.

WITHOUT THE CHINESE BUSLOADS WE DONT EXIST
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Superfecta on September 13, 2019, 08:25:16 PM
WITHOUT THE CHINESE BUSLOADS WE DONT EXIST
THAT sir is the absolute truth.  Those free plays pale in comparison to the whales those buses bring in.  They aren't betting $2 a hand on baccarat either.
Title: Re: Jeff Gural just came for the 1st time in 10 years!!!
Post by: Fatboy on September 13, 2019, 11:28:53 PM
Do you realize how stupid you sound. Big gamblers taking a bus to a casino. The people who are taking a bus to a casino are penny slot players who live 20 deep in a 2 bedroom apt. Give it a rest. You're embarrassing yourself.

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