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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Swale84 on September 03, 2019, 08:38:07 PM
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I’m looking for advice on getting into harness racing. Who are some trainers that are good to work for? I know horses, my background is in Thoroughbred racing, but I want to break into Standardbreds. I want to learn about the equipment, training methods, and eventually learn to jog. Would anyone be willing to take a chance on someone who knows horses, but is green to the sport of harness racing?
I’ve been reading through this forum and you all don’t paint a pretty picture of the sport.
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This is the best advice you will ever get about any subject in your whole life..........DO NOT GET INTO HARNESS RACING!!!! God Bless
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Buy a few horses give to most expensive trainer u will get the best possible results tmbz1
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Listen to the Rabbi of Racing. I used to be involved and unless you are a chemist and have no love or regard for the animals this is not the sport for you.
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Of course people would give you a chance...If you handled horses before that's a big plus..not hard to learn how to put equipment on etc...Have fun and Good Luck.
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buy a paper shredder and put your money into that instead.
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i suggest u find a small stable where they can show u the ropes u will have to take reduced pay but that will get better as u gain experience good luck
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I’m looking for advice on getting into harness racing. Who are some trainers that are good to work for? I know horses, my background is in Thoroughbred racing, but I want to break into Standardbreds. I want to learn about the equipment, training methods, and eventually learn to jog. Would anyone be willing to take a chance on someone who knows horses, but is green to the sport of harness racing?
I’ve been reading through this forum and you all don’t paint a pretty picture of the sport.
you came to the right place
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I’m looking for advice on getting into harness racing. Who are some trainers that are good to work for? I know horses, my background is in Thoroughbred racing, but I want to break into Standardbreds. I want to learn about the equipment, training methods, and eventually learn to jog. Would anyone be willing to take a chance on someone who knows horses, but is green to the sport of harness racing?
I’ve been reading through this forum and you all don’t paint a pretty picture of the sport.
Ignore all the jealous haters. Even with all the integrity issues and lack of consistency. Harness horses are 1 one the most amazing animals to be around on a daily basis. Find someone on a farm looking for help to teach you about horsemanship. There are plenty of trainers willing to teach you the ropes and their system. Good luck
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Buy some shares in TheStable.ca Very successful, only use top trainers and top drivers. Easy way to make money.
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I’m looking for advice on getting into harness racing. Who are some trainers that are good to work for? I know horses, my background is in Thoroughbred racing, but I want to break into Standardbreds. I want to learn about the equipment, training methods, and eventually learn to jog. Would anyone be willing to take a chance on someone who knows horses, but is green to the sport of harness racing?
I’ve been reading through this forum and you all don’t paint a pretty picture of the sport.
This is advice from a guy 70+ years old who made a lot of money in harness racing. I started when I was 12 years old and still keep a few mares and retired old horses. I am not angry or bitter about the industry. It made me money and helped me raise three great kids who are all 6 digit money-makers in the business and medicine world. But this is what I would tell you now if you were my kid.
A) If you are young, go to school. Get a college degree. Get a job and don't go anywhere near the harness business. Do not bet. Do not think there is anything glamorous about harness racing or racetracks.
B) If you do try take a shot you will never find anyone who will teach you or help you without taking advantage of you or robbing and cheating you.
3) You will NOT make any money unless you are already wealthy and you can buy good babies and even then you have to get really lucky. Odds are really bad against you.
4) Be prepared to have NO LIFE! Your friends with regular jobs ( white collar or small business owners) will have fun and family and security and you will work 24 hours a day with zero chance for reward.
5) If you are older than 17 forget it. You will never be good at it, especially if you want to be a driver.
6) All of the above apply now more than ever because harness racing is a dead industry. There is zero future.
7) For every Brian Sears and Ron Burke, there are 200 drivers and trainers who qualify for food stamps. Most have no health insurance.
PLEASE LISTEN: I am an old guy. I made a great living in harness racing, but it was tough and gritty. And that was back in the days when there was tons of money to be made. Now there is none. Please run for your life and find some other job. I never allowed any of my three children near the horse business. They thank me every day. If you were my son or daughter I would discourage you until you hated me.
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you came to the right place
I'm doing good too.
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Where are you located?
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Where are you located?
Sent you a PM
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I started out as a groom, then 2nd trainer, then finally got my drivers license. I did pretty well. But I had no life outside of harness racing. Constant travel. Hotels when i was lucky, crappy tack rooms most times but i still loved it. I was very fortunate to get my start with Tommy Paver who was honest and very helpful. This was in the days before the chemical warfare took over. I was crunched up in a pileup at northfield when they still had that godawful pvc rail. I haven't driven since. I miss the racing and the horses but it's a lot different today than it was then. I wish you luck if you head down that path. There are still a couple mom and pop stables out there but they probably won't be for much longer. And don't be a beard. Under any circumstance. Walk away.
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To learn the equipment to rig it correctly and to learn to jog was what I heard also had knowledge of and working with thoroughbred s but is really different from standard breds
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Good luck in your search hopefully you land where you can do well and learn the skills you seek
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The guy said wants to work and 75% answer as he wants to own..Even the forum big shots can't comprehend a sentence!
I SAW THAT TOO... ngc3
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Start with one of the classy operations like Jen Bongiorno or Ron Burke.
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Thinking the same KA. My question same as one above you. Where are you located and what track or tracks are you thinking about working?
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What area are you in, that will define where to search, unless you are going to move anywhere
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you came to the right place
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buy a paper shredder and put your money into that instead.
thats wat Rabbi should do! Hes
Known all overfor tearin up tickets!! tmbz1
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Swale most of these
Esteemed individuals on here
Have never been near a horse
Tbey be Keyboard owners/trainers 73cv.2
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you came to the right place
ngc3 tmbz1 tmbz1
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I'm doing good too.
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YOUR RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
WORD FOR WORD.
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HAVE PITCHFORK
WILL TRAVEL
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you came to the right place
Thanks for making me laugh today piggy!!
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SWALE84. DON'T DO IT !!!!!!
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Wow a troll generated a lot of buzz people must be board to think it’s a real poster
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Thanks for making me laugh today piggy!!
tmbz1
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October 26 .27
Bring 50 grand
We can go partners on colt and filly
Hoosier sale.
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One of the first things my trainer told me when i got in the business is it cost just as much to feed a cheap horse as good one. Buy good stock and stick to the slot states and there is still money to be made. High End claimer and as well NW with state sired stock go for good money and competition not to tough. If and when slots decrease or percentages change time to think about a new hobby or career. Still plenty of decent trainers out there that you can trust.
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Swale...No offense but why would u switch from tbreds to harness??
I just want to try something different. And I have really grown a strong fondness of the Standardbred breed. They are a lot more fun to work around than Thoroughbreds. I'm at a crossroads in my horse career. I can either go back to Thoroughbreds, stick to horse farm work, or give up horses altogether....nei ther of which I want to do. I've always been a casual fan of harness racing and after having worked with some Standardbreds for the last year, I've started to follow the sport more closely. Maybe I'm having a midlife crisis, but I want to work with Standardbreds.... learn how to jog and train them...hopefully working my way up to 2nd trainer or something.
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So you've worked with standardbreds for the past year but you're looking for advice. It sounds like bullshit to me.
I've been fucking this girl for the past year but I'm not sure if it feels good or not. Please help. Any advice?
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So you've worked with standardbreds for the past year but you're looking for advice. It sounds like bullshit to me.
I've been fucking this girl for the past year but I'm not sure if it feels good or not. Please help. Any advice?
I've worked with 'some' Standardbreds in a farm setting...a few STB mares resided at the farm I most recently worked at...
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Swale,run as fast as you can away from harness racing,you have been warned,God Bless and good luck
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http://ustrottingnews.com/justin-maceachern-is-cooking-up-a-career-in-harness-racing/
Thanks! I enjoyed that article!
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CLASSIC tmbz1
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One of the first things my trainer told me when i got in the business is it cost just as much to feed a cheap horse as good one. Buy good stock and stick to the slot states and there is still money to be made. High End claimer and as well NW with state sired stock go for good money and competition not to tough. If and when slots decrease or percentages change time to think about a new hobby or career. Still plenty of decent trainers out there that you can trust.
if your inquiry is sort of legit <> this post is on the point. Now, as I say that, I still cannot resist a fallen from grace racer at a bargain basement $$$. But, truth is, all exp. are same on a lo-ender or an open pacer. So, try to move up a class or two. Get a cool hat to wear, that's quite important. AND, then - take a look at the trainers in your market - call 'em up. You'll connect with one of them - well, unless you're a real dweeb. Then get a smart looking sweater and bell bottom pants. Did I mention you should have a feather (like a pheasant feather!!) in the hat. Last of all, get a good pair of alligator skin loafers. I think that about covers it.
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Ok, so, whats your point?
Yes of course it costs the same to feed a "cheap" horse as it does a "good" one....
But, according to that thinking Michael Jordan was a "cheap" one and I think we can all agree he was pretty damn good!!
How was Jordan a cheap one? A NC standout ngc3
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if you just want to say cheese ,just go to the winners circle ,walk in and get your photo taken and by the photo,you will realize saying cheese is over rated
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JUST CALL JOSH,,,IF YOU CAN FIND HIM
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Listen to carnival people, I too am 70+ and retired, I started in the 60's and had a great time, 7 days a week. No life away from racing. Made great money, no life away from racing. Trained and drove, had some nice horses. Luckily my wife also had a good job and we saved money for retirement. Most horsemen and women never retire, they die at the track or a county home some where. We made sure our 2 children stayed as far away as we could keep them. They still thank me for that. Save yourself, Find another profession. Just remember if you are a trainer your horses need to win 1 million in purses for you to make 50k a yr, unless you own them.
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You want a pet? Buy a goldfish
They will smell new naive money from a mile away and bleed you dry.
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take a selfie
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take a selfie
Cheap Paul has 1000 selfies on Facebook
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Cheap Paul has 1000 selfies on Facebook
one of the cheapest guys i know
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Thanks everyone for all the advice. Most of it, I'm not going to follow, as I start my new gig in harness racing next week. Wish me luck!!
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Thanks everyone for all the advice. Most of it, I'm not going to follow, as I start my new gig in harness racing next week. Wish me luck!!
KEEP THE HANDHOLDS UP AWHILE IS MY ADVICE
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After 7 weeks of working in Ohio for the biggest piece of shit human I’ve ever encountered, I’ve decided I want to continue my career in this fine sport. I love the horses and I love the sport. If anyone knows of any openings, please inquire with me.
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What track?