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Title: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: smokingjoe on August 11, 2019, 01:30:37 AM
Follow the case here  https://www.docketbird.com/court-cases/Robert-Bongiorno/njb-3:2018-bk-16626

looks like old bobby was shuffling assets before or after filing and plaintiffs have been issuing subpoenas against bob, barbara, and jen. 
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: swoodall on August 11, 2019, 01:41:01 AM
Where's the part where Sears pinches Jen's nipples? 86z.st ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: jupiter on August 11, 2019, 07:42:58 AM
Sooner or later he will have to stand up in front of the judge, and not a racing judge. All the cards will come tumbling down. Sorry jen bo your dad is a nothing but a crook, open up your eyes.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: NJ The best on August 11, 2019, 11:21:31 AM
Whomever Scott Robinson is he seems like a pit bull he’s been chasing his money as the creditor through the entire process.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: zoot on August 11, 2019, 12:13:07 PM
i was in the same barn at gaitway as bobbie many years ago. this was when he was dating brenda (pete semans old girl)) and when he was buddies with fluff. way back then. i never could understand his success. he just wasnt that sharp. one thing i do remember was he could not look u in the eye during a conversation. im sure he was capable of anything.

back then it was bobbie, la poff, elliot, gelrod. and pelling.  all capable of anything
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: NJ The best on August 11, 2019, 07:21:02 PM
So True Pete was a crazy guy he had safe arrival loaded for bear in the meadowlands pace elimination
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Papillon on August 11, 2019, 07:25:40 PM
i was in the same barn at gaitway as bobbie many years ago. this was when he was dating brenda (pete semans old girl)) and when he was buddies with fluff. way back then. i never could understand his success. he just wasnt that sharp. one thing i do remember was he could not look u in the eye during a conversation. im sure he was capable of anything.

back then it was bobbie, la poff, elliot, gelrod. and pelling.  all capable of anything

That Brenda with the bunny rabbit?

Brena Stable?
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Yonkers1 on August 11, 2019, 08:29:57 PM
Follow the case here  https://www.docketbird.com/court-cases/Robert-Bongiorno/njb-3:2018-bk-16626

looks like old bobby was shuffling assets before or after filing and plaintiffs have been issuing subpoenas against bob, barbara, and jen.

This will not end well for the Bon bons
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: mass hole on August 11, 2019, 09:37:47 PM
they could be fucked ...shifting assets
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: WTF Hanover on August 11, 2019, 10:28:54 PM
Welcome to the pen, Jen

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Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Watchandtell on August 11, 2019, 11:45:05 PM
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Now that is long over, what the hell was that all about anyway??? (endless posts on BRENA with some fucking dead rabbit and some other picture of some other hillbilly nonsense?


That Brenda with the bunny rabbit?

Brena Stable?
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: swoodall on August 12, 2019, 01:31:05 AM
I got a question that I can't for the life of me understand the thought process of some parents?

How in the hell does Papa Bon Bon involve his wife and kids in what appears to be illegal activity?

Doesn't sifting assets or evading/hiding assets deliberately from a bankruptcy court mean possible criminal charges?

And if you participate in this scheme in any way shape or form can't you be held criminally libel?

If the penalties are only civil then maybe he figures it's worth the fine to use his kids to hide assets.

Jen left her Meadowlands job to "try her hand at training". 43z.stf

Laundering assets appears to have been the real motive. 91.jzail

Now's she's putting Lou Pena to shame. 68xv.2
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: harnessplop on August 12, 2019, 07:25:17 AM
If the kids were not aware and to be honest doubt Jennifer lnew anything..then she cane be held criminally. Assetts might be able to be taken....ok sell the horses and without the juice they are worth 22 cents.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: PIGLAND on August 12, 2019, 07:45:18 AM
If the kids were not aware and to be honest doubt Jennifer lnew anything..then she cane be held criminally. Assetts might be able to be taken....ok sell the horses and without the juice they are worth 22 cents.
just ask ray schnickter
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: NJ The best on August 12, 2019, 08:27:48 AM
RAY THE FLIM FLAM MAN .
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: jupiter on August 12, 2019, 08:59:50 AM
Trying to hide shit from the bankruptcy judge is stupid, only going to put you in more peril. Again it's all about following the money, there will be a trail. This isn't like the racing commissions, they mean business. Even if the kids didn't know what was going on court will still recoup the assets that were moved illegally. Bobby, great guy, going to screw his offspring over.  Real classy family.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: zoot on August 12, 2019, 09:31:29 AM
I got a question that I can't for the life of me understand the thought process of some parents?

How in the hell does Papa Bon Bon involve his wife and kids in what appears to be illegal activity?

Doesn't sifting assets or evading/hiding assets deliberately from a bankruptcy court mean possible criminal charges?

And if you participate in this scheme in any way shape or form can't you be held criminally libel?

If the penalties are only civil then maybe he figures it's worth the fine to use his kids to hide assets.

Jen left her Meadowlands job to "try her hand at training". 43z.stf

Laundering assets appears to have been the real motive. 91.jzail

Now's she's putting Lou Pena to shame. 68xv.2



as i stated, bob is capable of anything even using his son and daughter to escape his destiny
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on August 12, 2019, 11:52:21 AM
If the kids were not aware and to be honest doubt Jennifer lnew anything..then she cane be held criminally. Assetts might be able to be taken....ok sell the horses and without the juice they are worth 22 cents.

lmao ignorance is not a defense for criminal activity
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: NJ The best on August 12, 2019, 12:48:58 PM
Just call him little madoff because he was clearly running a ponzi  scheme.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 12, 2019, 01:02:10 PM
Bob will be ok ,,,, he told me himself
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: jupiter on August 12, 2019, 01:19:22 PM
bankruptcy fraud penalties, up to 250k fine and 20yrs in jail. You had to know that Bobby B would try and hide the cash, pretty classless to try an move the cash and property to the kids. They won't go down (Jen will, but that is a different story) for it, and they don't have enough class to be embarrassed by it.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: LUCPARK on August 12, 2019, 03:14:46 PM
why are all you losers involved in this familys personal business

Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: zoot on August 12, 2019, 03:46:52 PM
bobby's wife is the daughter of one of the dancer brothers. i believe she is sonny's daughter. im sure this doesnt sit well in new egypt.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Calhoun on August 12, 2019, 03:59:34 PM
why are all you losers involved in this familys personal business
These plop geniuses can't make change for a quarter.

Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: jupiter on August 12, 2019, 05:39:10 PM
He had a fiduciary responsibility to protect the investors. It looks like he pilfered the cash. He's a criminal and not a very good one. I think they have followed the money and what ever they can get back they will, he didn't hide it well enough.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Calhoun on August 12, 2019, 07:02:19 PM
I can make change for a quarter, why? do you need two dimes and a nickel?
Why?

I'll tell you why.

You run around here like you're some kind of harness racing fucking savant; telling Ruffolo he's an ass hole for running in a $300k race.

You act like you were standing RIGHT THERE! every time any top trainer drugged a horse.

Your redboards are pathetically ham handed.

You act as if you are the only person alive who thinks the industry is poorly regulated.

You make believe you know all other kinds of various and sundry shit you cannot possibly know.

That' about it off the top of my head.

I diagnose your condition as

BUST OUT TRAINER

Sound about right?



Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: slivercharm on August 12, 2019, 07:08:02 PM
why are all you losers involved in this familys personal business

About as bad as running those credit checks without permission
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: smokingjoe on August 12, 2019, 07:38:37 PM
Bobby's sister - runs in the blood?

Annette Bongiorno
Annette Bongiorno was a long-time personal secretary and aide to Madoff. Bongiorno joined Madoff Investment Securities in 1967, soon after graduating high school; only Madoff's wife Ruth and brother Peter were at the firm longer. She recruited Frank DiPascali, then her next-door neighbor in Howard Beach, to the firm.

She is accused of directing two assistants, Semone Anderson and Winnie Jackson, to generate fictitious trading tickets for customer accounts. During the 1980s, Bongiorno recruited small investors from Howard Beach. Their money was held in accounts called "RuAnn" (named after Annette and her husband Rudy). Madoff paid for her honeymoon airfare. She owns homes in Manhasset, New York, and Boca Raton, Florida, with a combined assessment of $3.85 million. Bongiorno was arrested in November 2010 and charged with conspiracy, securities fraud, and tax evasion. She faced up to 75 years in jail After a brief incarceration in late 2010 and after $7.6 million were seized from Bongiornos' accounts (out of an estimated $14 million personal take), Bongiorno was released to house arrest with ankle monitor at her Manhasset, Long Island, residence on a $3.6 million personal recognizance bond secured by eight co-signers. Her trial opened on October 7, 2013. In a bid for leniency, Bongiorno maintained that Madoff deceived her into printing bogus trade records. She claimed that she was merely doing the same thing she had been doing for over 40 years–bolstering evidence that Madoff began his Ponzi scheme far earlier than 1991.

Bongiorno was convicted in March 2014 on charges of securities fraud and tax evasion. In December 2014, Bongiorno was sentenced to six years in federal prison. The sentence was far shorter than even the eight- to ten-year sentence recommended by her own lawyer. However, federal judge Laura Taylor Swain believed Bongiorno's "small stature"–she is only 4.5 feet (1.4 m) tall–would put her in a "vulnerable position" in prison
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: LUCPARK on August 12, 2019, 08:31:39 PM
Why?

I'll tell you why.

You run around here like you're some kind of harness racing fucking savant; telling Ruffolo he's an ass hole for running in a $300k race.

You act like you were standing RIGHT THERE! every time any top trainer drugged a horse.

Your redboards are pathetically ham handed.

You act as if you are the only person alive who thinks the industry is poorly regulated.

You make believe you know all other kinds of various and sundry shit you cannot possibly know.

That' about it off the top of my head.

I diagnose your condition as

BUST OUT TRAINER

Sound about right?





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Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 12, 2019, 08:47:09 PM
THIS PLACE IS GETTING NASTY
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: hoosierboy on August 12, 2019, 09:34:15 PM
No question they all know what’s going on
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Field_In_Motion on August 13, 2019, 07:35:05 AM
Very well connected guy from Ohio.


IS THAT THE SAME GUY WHO OWNED LOST IN TIME ?
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: captain cash on August 13, 2019, 10:15:04 AM
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I don't think the Bongiorno that worked for Madoff is Bobby sister.  If it is that is that's not a coincidence what he did.
it is his sister...
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on August 13, 2019, 11:34:11 AM
I think I even said a while ago when Jenn first started being listed as trainer that it seemed like she was a beard for the father. A lot of the horses in her care were either listed as Johnson or another beard prior. Same owners on Jenn B horses as Bob B. Why go to her when they could just use him? To hide money of course. Sad a guy would use his kids to further facilitate criminal activity but it seems like the  guy has been a criminal for decades. The kids absolutely had to have some knowledge of what was going on as well.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: batavia24 on August 13, 2019, 12:52:24 PM
Aunt Annette 4ft 5 400 lbs At one time worth $15 mill Wonderful family should be admired for all that they have contributed to society
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: NJ The best on August 13, 2019, 01:00:37 PM
That’s his sister
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Calhoun on August 13, 2019, 01:09:06 PM
Do you have to try to be this much of an incredible idiot or does it come naturally?
kindly remind us  ,,,,,

Who are you?    ,,,,,

Please list your 3 prior user names  ,,,,,,,,,

Thnaks
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Carnival People on August 13, 2019, 01:37:55 PM
According to the court docs jen bo, joey bon bon and barbara bo were denied the protective order to keep there financials sealed.  Looks like we get to see where all the money went and your right about a racing judge not ruling.  This is now a federal matter.  Wonder if they get a group rate at the prison for families?

Criminal-minded guy who avoids eye-contact when he speaks to you.  He doesn't care if his kids get nailed.  He's a sociopath and was never a good horse trainer.  My wife always thought that he was mildly retarded.  Not trying to be funny.   I feel sorry for the kid.  He never had a chance but to be anything but an average harness driver.  Don't be fooled by the Dancer half of the family either.  They're a bunch of crooked stick too.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: jupiter on August 13, 2019, 04:31:41 PM
You are giving retarded people a bad name, He's not retarded, he's just an arrogant asshole, who has raised his children to be just the same a pair of arrogant assholes.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: smokingjoe on August 13, 2019, 05:54:55 PM
Rumor has it, FBI and DEA have been following family and a certain POS trainer who has hooked up with druggie flats trainer for months now. In fact, locals near this trainer's farm in Howell, called  Howell PD to report a suspicious van overlooking the farm where his dozens of horses are kept, only for the PD to find FBI agents in the van and were told it was a surveillance operation.

Bongiorno son and this trainer have become pals on and off the track. Karma is going to pay them a visit before too long.  My prediction is before years-end.

P.S. Couldn't happen to a bigger rat. Only question will he ring mommy again to come and save him.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: PIGLAND on August 13, 2019, 06:18:58 PM
i think they might be doing illeagle stuff
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: SoulAssassin on August 13, 2019, 06:20:37 PM
Rumor has it, FBI and DEA have been following family and a certain POS trainer who has hooked up with druggie flats trainer for months now. In fact, locals near this trainer's farm in Howell, called  Howell PD to report a suspicious van overlooking the farm where his dozens of horses are kept, only for the PD to find FBI agents in the van and were told it was a surveillance operation.

Bongiorno son and this trainer have become pals on and off the track. Karma is going to pay them a visit before too long.  My prediction is before years-end.

P.S. Couldn't happen to a bigger rat. Only question will he ring mommy again to come and save him.

you dont mean ol Nick Sucadick do you?  11.bz 11.bz
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: PIGLAND on August 13, 2019, 08:54:21 PM
the sport is a complete joke
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: slivercharm on August 13, 2019, 09:41:02 PM
the sport is a complete joke

Yet 62K posts
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: LUCPARK on August 13, 2019, 10:51:07 PM
Yet 62K posts

THKS FOR READING ITS APPRECIATED  ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: swoodall on August 14, 2019, 12:44:49 AM
Is it too late for me to call the tv show "American Greed"? tmbz1

Or do you think they already know? tmbz1 ngc3
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: NJ The best on August 14, 2019, 09:37:32 AM
Meanwhile Jeniffer and Joey have cooled off considerably as of late . Wonder if it’s because of the shadow watching?
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Calhoun on August 14, 2019, 10:05:41 AM
Ive been out of the (harness) game for 20 years.  I hate this business but I love the sport. I thought it was bad in the 90's - that was nothing to today's absolute absurdity. Why do you hate me or challenge me?

is it because.....

a. You know Im right and it pisses you off that I am
b. You are on the other side trying to defend a lost cause of a game
or
c. You are just too ignorant to know whats right at all
D.  You're a 75 year old busted out trainer who has nothing better to do.

I got to go with D.

BTW, I'm a pretty big deal myself in the business but don't like a lot of attention.
Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 14, 2019, 10:44:32 AM
D.  You're a 75 year old busted out trainer who has nothing better to do.

I got to go with D.

BTW, I'm a pretty big deal myself in the business but don't like a lot of attention.



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Title: Re: Bongiorno bankruptcy
Post by: NJ The best on August 14, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
There toast don’t bet anything
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