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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 12:27:58 PM
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it is over
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They have been trying to close pompano for years sad
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Wally Hennesseeeeyaaaaa aaaaa.
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i grew up watchin pomp
this is a real shame :'( :'( :'(
hopefully the seminoles shut down this project
more developing down here
i cant drive anywhere now a days without hitting traffic
I95 looks like i drove into a 3rd world country
traffic is terrible
just another way to ruin south florida so someone's pocket can get filled!
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All that land
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Build housing...all harness will be done soon enough. Its called changing with times.
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It's called the methodical, calculated and criminal destruction of a historical institution referred to as the winter capital of harness racing! Pompano Park didn't have a lot of the problems that other harness tracks had! The weather was usually beautiful, there was a core of people that attended regularly and plenty of anxious horseman ready to avoid the horrors of the northern winter! When slots were brought in, it seemed like the future was going to be rosy! They had a nice little niche in the market that their competitors didn't have.Then came two groups of clueless owners! Instead of exploiting and marketing the natural advantages that they had, a program of compound ignorance was instituted! Soon they began to drive customers away from the casino with poor slot payoffs and uncompetitve promotions! Horseman stopped coming because they were continuously deceived and gouged by the unscrupulous management! Now you have to stand back and wonder who these idiots are that want to invest in one of the most foolish plans ever to come along! Turn the property into a destination hoping to attract people to flock in and spend their money! An industrial area on one side, a run down high crime scene on the other and the lure of the beach nearby! They will seek to lure people away from the Indians who have a mega head start and don't pay any taxes! And Bernie Madoff is in jail! Too fucking funny!
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am a free man.
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it is over
The Florida legislature has been trying to kill it for years. They killed greyhound racing, Pompano has begging to decouple for long time. You can bet your blue balls that Pennsylvania, Delaware and Maine are all watching with baited breath.
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It's called the methodical, calculated and criminal destruction of a historical institution referred to as the winter capital of harness racing! Pompano Park didn't have a lot of the problems that other harness tracks had! The weather was usually beautiful, there was a core of people that attended regularly and plenty of anxious horseman ready to avoid the horrors of the northern winter! When slots were brought in, it seemed like the future was going to be rosy! They had a nice little niche in the market that their competitors didn't have.Then came two groups of clueless owners! Instead of exploiting and marketing the natural advantages that they had, a program of compound ignorance was instituted! Soon they began to drive customers away from the casino with poor slot payoffs and uncompetitve promotions! Horseman stopped coming because they were continuously deceived and gouged by the unscrupulous management! Now you have to stand back and wonder who these idiots are that want to invest in one of the most foolish plans ever to come along! Turn the property into a destination hoping to attract people to flock in and spend their money! An industrial area on one side, a run down high crime scene on the other and the lure of the beach nearby! They will seek to lure people away from the Indians who have a mega head start and don't pay any taxes! And Bernie Madoff is in jail! Too fucking funny!
Buy the property from them dummy, if you think harness racing is so valuable.
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Impossible to make money with a business plan having one purpose in mind, imminent failure! As I alluded to earlier, Pompano had advantages over all other harness racing entities and there is a niche that could have been extremely profitable if astute management were in charge! Of course several of you guys on this site have your own agenda of continuously predicting the doom of our business! However despite your negativity, the business will survive once race tracks learn how to streamline their product, develop marketing strategies to engage the public (especially the youth) and stop wasting the time and effort spent bickering between management and horsemen because they are "supposed" to be working toward a common goal! Remember all the local business and communities that depend on our survival for their livelihood and pay no attention to the jerk off know it all's that must have lost 2 dollars along the way and are now just sour grapes!
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Impossible to make money with a business plan having one purpose in mind, imminent failure! As I alluded to earlier, Pompano had advantages over all other harness racing entities and there is a niche that could have been extremely profitable if astute management were in charge! Of course several of you guys on this site have your own agenda of continuously predicting the doom of our business! However despite your negativity, the business will survive once race tracks learn how to streamline their product, develop marketing strategies to engage the public (especially the youth) and stop wasting the time and effort spent bickering between management and horsemen because they are "supposed" to be working toward a common goal! Remember all the local business and communities that depend on our survival for their livelihood and pay no attention to the jerk off know it all's that must have lost 2 dollars along the way and are now just sour grapes!
I beg yout pardon, I lost 3 dollars.
harness racing is doomed, blame it on cheaters and juicers where the blame belongs, not management
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They hope to turn it in to a gulf stream facility,,,,with a village in a city,,,good luck
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I beg yout pardon, I lost 3 dollars.
harness racing is doomed, blame it on cheaters and juicers where the blame belongs, not management
So, prior to Isle of Capri, harness racing at Pompano was profitable?
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Since this new establishment will be located in the "lovely" Pompano Beach, do they know they will not be allowed to have any more plastic straws? 73za.ot
horses use straws?
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I beg yout pardon, I lost 3 dollars.
harness racing is doomed, blame it on cheaters and juicers where the blame belongs, not management
You are a pompous ass wipe who knows nothing about the situation! Get your head out of your ass hole and learn the facts before you go shooting your big mouth off!
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You are a pompous ass wipe who knows nothing about the situation! Get your head out of your ass hole and learn the facts before you go shooting your big mouth off!
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YES SIR !
HOW DARE I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN YOU, THE ALMIGHTY ONE.
EVEN WITH MY HEAD UP MY ASS ITS NOT HARD TO SEE THE OBVIOUS STIFFING AND JUICING.
MAYBE MANAGEMENT SUCKS BUT IF YOU ASK THE AVERAGE GAMBLER WHY THEY ABANDONED HARNESS RACING, STIFFING AND JUICING ARE HIGH ON THE LIST.
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You are a pompous ass wipe who knows nothing about the situation! Get your head out of your ass hole and learn the facts before you go shooting your big mouth off!
Decoupling Now, Decoupling Forever.
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THE MASTER SEEMS TO HAVE A VIEW ALONG THE LINES OF POMPANO WAS NIRVANA FOR THE HORSEMEN SO IT SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED IF THAT EVIL MANAGEMENT DIDNT MESS IT UP.
REALITY- ASSES IN THE SEATS AND CASH IN THE POOLS IS WHAT COUNTS, WITHOUT THAT ANY GAME IS DOOMED.
WOULD YOU PLAY BLACKJACK IF YOU THOUGHT THE DEALER WAS CHEATING? OF COURSE NOT.
THE HARNESS GAME IS DOOMED BECAUSE GAMBLERS PERCEIVE IT TO BE CROOKED AND WILL GAMBLE ON SOMETHING THAT SEEMS FAIR.
THERE IS NO HOPE TO GET THE ASSES BAXK IN THE SEATS OR THE MONEY IN THE POOLS SO LET THE WRECKING BALL SWING.
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THE HARNESS GAME IS DOOMED BECAUSE GAMBLERS PERCEIVE IT TO BE CROOKED AND WILL GAMBLE ON SOMETHING THAT SEEMS FAIR.
THERE IS NO HOPE TO GET THE ASSES BAXK IN THE SEATS OR THE MONEY IN THE POOLS SO LET THE WRECKING BALL SWING.
You are wrong.
Harness racing is dead because takeout is too high. If takeout was 8-10%, gamblers would show up.
Look at the mandatory payout days. There is your proof.
You are wrong. Again.
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You are wrong.
Harness racing is dead because takeout is too high. If takeout was 8-10%, gamblers would show up.
Look at the mandatory payout days. There is your proof.
You are wrong. Again.
ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE TALKING FROM YOUR POSTERIOR PORT.
NOBODY IS INTERESTED IN RISKING THEIR MONEY ON A GAME THAT IS PERCEIVED TO BE CROOKED EVEN IF THE TAKEOUT IS ZERO.
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ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE TALKING FROM YOUR POSTERIOR PORT.
NOBODY IS INTERESTED IN RISKING THEIR MONEY ON A GAME THAT IS PERCEIVED TO BE CROOKED EVEN IF THE TAKEOUT IS ZERO.
That's why Pompano just set a record handle off of one race.
Please just stop posting.
You are far too old to make any sense.
You old dotard.
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That's why Pompano just set a record handle off of one race.
Please just stop posting.
You are far too old to make any sense.
You old dotard.
it must be wonderful to be inside your head with all the rainbows and unicorns and such.
record? I am old enough to remember packed harness tracks, rr, yr, monti.
rr- gone
monti- 10-25 people attend, soon to close by all signs
yr- ghost town
you cant bury your head like an ostrich and pluck a single statistic out and say the game is healthy.
fact is in the eyes of the average gambler harness racing is the new 3 card monty
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I remember a few nights at Roosevelt while waiting for John Chapman to bring the horse back for a picture and looking up into the stands it was amazing how full the place was and it was packed at Pompano when the Breeders Crown first started out and we would head down for the races and some golf. Let's face it the tracks are empty because it's all about the money and who is going to get it because of internet betting and tracks like Pompano are empty because of the fixing, same with Freehold or Monti.
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I remember RR very well. I used to like the 3rd floor. in the cold weather they had the outdoor behind the glass area. I always was on the 3rd floor. used the escalators to get up there.
I remember one night in the 80's my friend and I turned the corner after getting off on the second floor landing and instead of seeing the next escalator to the 3rd floor it was walled off with plywood.
beginning of the end.
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I used to take exit m3 or m2 from the meadowbrook. the lights were the first thing you saw when you came up the exit ramp. sometimes it was so crowded I used to have to park by fortunoffs.
at RR
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Countin' Flowers on the Wall
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I said it on another thread, tracks aren't owned by people any more the are owned by corporations, mostly casinos and they don't want racing. We cost them money, between the states and the casinos sooner rather than later they will take more money away from horseman. Look at the Meadows, the horseman had to buy the statue of Adios back after the land was sold by the last group of profiteers. It's all corporate greed. Tracks other than the Big M don't really do any promotions or advertising for racing, if you take the slot money away we will be racing ultra short meets for crap money. We also have no integrity or class look at the show we put on, not really classy anymore. The days of Greenwood, RR and packed crowds are all done get used to it.
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I said it on another thread, tracks aren't owned by people any more the are owned by corporations, mostly casinos and they don't want racing. We cost them money, between the states and the casinos sooner rather than later they will take more money away from horseman. Look at the Meadows, the horseman had to buy the statue of Adios back after the land was sold by the last group of profiteers. It's all corporate greed. Tracks other than the Big M don't really do any promotions or advertising for racing, if you take the slot money away we will be racing ultra short meets for crap money. We also have no integrity or class look at the show we put on, not really classy anymore. The days of Greenwood, RR and packed crowds are all done get used to it.
Thanks for the keen insight. You brought some great revelations nobody has ever considered. Idiot.
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it really is a waste of good money ,giving these guys anything
,agree clean up you act horsemen,prove you deserve the welfare
Thanks for the keen insight. You brought some great revelations nobody has ever considered. Idiot.
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Thanks for the keen insight. You brought some great revelations nobody has ever considered. Idiot.
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Bernie Madoff, Never said it wasn't obvious, just stating facts. You must be a genius
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Thanks for the keen insight. You brought some great revelations nobody has ever considered. Idiot.
ABSOLUTLY FUCKIN CLASSIC ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Bernie Madoff, Never said it wasn't obvious, just stating facts. You must be a genius
It's called tautology.
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It's called tautology.
MEANS A DOPE FOR THE REST OF US
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Build housing...all harness will be done soon enough. Its called changing with times.
funny same thing i heard in 2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,
2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016,2017,2018, and again in 2019
sooner or later everyone will be dead so whats the point.... oh yes i get it...
this time its different.....
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I said it on another thread, tracks aren't owned by people any more the are owned by corporations, mostly casinos and they don't want racing. We cost them money, between the states and the casinos sooner rather than later they will take more money away from horseman. Look at the Meadows, the horseman had to buy the statue of Adios back after the land was sold by the last group of profiteers. It's all corporate greed. Tracks other than the Big M don't really do any promotions or advertising for racing, if you take the slot money away we will be racing ultra short meets for crap money. We also have no integrity or class look at the show we put on, not really classy anymore. The days of Greenwood, RR and packed crowds are all done get used to it.
get used to it? it's been dead for 40 years.
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Build housing...all harness will be done soon enough. Its called changing with times.
funny same thing i heard in 2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,
2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016,2017,2018, and again in 2019
sooner or later everyone will be dead so whats the point.... oh yes i get it...
this time its different.....
why dont you post inflation-adjusted yearly wagering totals for 2002 through 2018. You won't see a downward slope, nope.
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I said it on another thread, tracks aren't owned by people any more the are owned by corporations, mostly casinos and they don't want racing. We cost them money, between the states and the casinos sooner rather than later they will take more money away from horseman. Look at the Meadows, the horseman had to buy the statue of Adios back after the land was sold by the last group of profiteers. It's all corporate greed. Tracks other than the Big M don't really do any promotions or advertising for racing, if you take the slot money away we will be racing ultra short meets for crap money. We also have no integrity or class look at the show we put on, not really classy anymore. The days of Greenwood, RR and packed crowds are all done get used to it.
Yeah the 'people' did a great job running those tracks--in the ground. Every harness tracks survive only because of subsidies. That is the surest sign of a dead industry.