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Title: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 05, 2019, 05:53:33 PM
http://ustrottingnews.com/daniel-dube-at-thestable-ca-spring-open-house/
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 05, 2019, 05:55:12 PM
I THINK ANTHONY IS DOIN A GREAT JOB INTRODUCING NEW OWNERS TO HARNESS

..,,SMALL PART OF A HORSE AND NOBODY GETS HURT.,.

ITS A NEW WAY TO SHOW PEOPLE HARNESS

ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE BUT

AT LEAST HEZ TRYIN TO MOVE HARNESS ALONG TO THE NEXT GENERATION
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 05, 2019, 07:46:26 PM
I THINK ANTHONY IS DOIN A GREAT JOB INTRODUCING NEW OWNERS TO HARNESS

..,,SMALL PART OF A HORSE AND NOBODY GETS HURT.,.

ITS A NEW WAY TO SHOW PEOPLE HARNESS

ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE BUT

AT LEAST HEZ TRYIN TO MOVE HARNESS ALONG TO THE NEXT GENERATION

If people are like you and dont give a damn about losing money then yes
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: hoosierboy on May 05, 2019, 09:16:21 PM
Dube for president
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 05, 2019, 09:35:20 PM
like anything  buyer beware and do your own checking
here is the thing, they buy low or moderately priced yearlings
a few actually work out  very well
if you are lucky enough to have picked up shares in those great, if you picked the other 90% that dont make it or race at B  tracks than not so great
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 06, 2019, 10:24:35 AM
a major flaw seems to be that they would rather race in a big race at big odds for publicity then a smaller race where they may fit better
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 06, 2019, 07:49:00 PM
Mike Campbell to name a few they had Lawmaker who broke in the Hambo but was a nice PA sire horse that did some damage. They recently sold the horse overseas. They had a Indiana bred a Swan for All who was sold for 1.0mln last year. There first year they had a horse Charlie something that did well and was sold. So you don't need a champion on the track that gets syndicated. Also last year his 2 year olds in ON and in NA all went to different trainers. So he isn't collecting a training bill once they are off to race. Anthony did take up most of the drives in PA and OH. They had good success in OH with yearling purchased that werent expensive and won many sire races. Had a couple in the sire finals for trotters and pacers. Along with PA. White Tiger last year was really good at 2. Having some trouble getting going at 3 however. They by very few above the 40k price. They buy a lot under 20k. They have a talent 2 yr pa filly by SK. She will be a standout this summer.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Zookeeper on May 06, 2019, 09:53:15 PM
This scheme of the Stable. Ca is about to come to an end. Anthony is about to have to answer some very tough questions.
1. Billing, why does he still charge his $80+  a day when he farms horses iut to other trainers who charge less?
2. Shipping is atrocious, something like $250 per horse to ship to the track. Short drive here in Ohio, $250X3=$750?
3. What exactly is a $49.95 racing fee?
4. Bills out all travel expenses for him & his family for him to “drive” in various  locals....flights, rental cars, meals...none of these things where ever laid iut before hand.
5.Staking  continues to spends Thousands of $$ on horses that shouldn’t even be sire staked, let alone grand circuit.
6. Accountability... Has zero, i i mean zero fontact witj the majority of the horses under his control. All a smoke & mirror show.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Swandre on May 06, 2019, 10:36:59 PM
This scheme of the Stable. Ca is about to come to an end. Anthony is about to have to answer some very tough questions.
1. Billing, why does he still charge his $80+  a day when he farms horses iut to other trainers who charge less?
2. Shipping is atrocious, something like $250 per horse to ship to the track. Short drive here in Ohio, $250X3=$750?
3. What exactly is a $49.95 racing fee?
4. Bills out all travel expenses for him & his family for him to “drive” in various  locals....flights, rental cars, meals...none of these things where ever laid iut before hand.
5.Staking  continues to spends Thousands of $$ on horses that shouldn’t even be sire staked, let alone grand circuit.
6. Accountability... Has zero, i i mean zero fontact witj the majority of the horses under his control. All a smoke & mirror show.

wrong
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Zookeeper on May 06, 2019, 11:02:54 PM
wrong

Total fact...
6. Also in hot water with the USTA & Standardbred Canada. Stable horses can be bought, sold & traded, rarely are ownership papers updated causing false ownerships.
7. Owes $ to several farms/breeders. Time to pay the piper.
Etc,Etc
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 07, 2019, 02:03:07 AM
his bills are out of this world high
going to be alot of VERY unhappy campers shortly
except of course anthony after training bills on 160 horses for 2 years plus


just a questiion to other trainers...
would you charge your owners a partial training bill in a month that the horse died?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Swandre on May 07, 2019, 08:44:54 AM

Total fact...
6. Also in hot water with the USTA & Standardbred Canada. Stable horses can be bought, sold & traded, rarely are ownership papers updated causing false ownerships.
7. Owes $ to several farms/breeders. Time to pay the piper.
Etc,Etc

you’re incorrect
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 07, 2019, 09:11:41 AM
Just to add my 2 cents- I do agree with some of the issues regarding excessive staking and probably some upset clients
due to some poor performance & horse injuries..but really no different then what I have seen at other barns..Horses get hurt..
Not many people make money & if you are buying 3% of a horse, you have no say to where/when that horse races  (although can still have opinion)..

I will disagree with some of the points as anytime I have bought or sold shares, they have been all over that in terms of updating the
ownership records..

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 07, 2019, 09:33:50 AM




I think its a good way for new owners to get into the game

they wont no money ,.,except for Anthony

but its a decent idea,

few ploppers are in the stable,,

lets see what happens this yr,,McDonald has a lot of horses..







Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 07, 2019, 11:25:13 AM
This scheme of the Stable. Ca is about to come to an end. Anthony is about to have to answer some very tough questions.
1. Billing, why does he still charge his $80+  a day when he farms horses iut to other trainers who charge less?
2. Shipping is atrocious, something like $250 per horse to ship to the track. Short drive here in Ohio, $250X3=$750?
3. What exactly is a $49.95 racing fee?

4. Bills out all travel expenses for him & his family for him to “drive” in various  locals....flights, rental cars, meals...none of these things where ever laid iut before hand.


5.Staking  continues to spends Thousands of $$ on horses that shouldn’t even be sire staked, let alone grand circuit.
6. Accountability... Has zero, i i mean zero fontact witj the majority of the horses under his control. All a smoke & mirror show.
People who worry about how other people spend their own money are either broke or competing for that cash.

So what?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 07, 2019, 12:39:26 PM
Would be an AMAZING thing for the sport if...
A...the training bills werent so high
B. Theybought 30 a year instead of 80
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 07, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
80 horse is nt that many especially when hes got 45000 owners..

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 07, 2019, 03:08:42 PM
That's eighty horses per year by the way not 80 horses total
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 07, 2019, 03:30:33 PM
what a stupid comment! do you ever say anything of any value??
You must not have bet any of my recent Get Filthy Rich plays.  Otherwise, you'd know better.

And you've told us you got out of racing decades ago.  That's a fact.

So you have an opinion, like every other asshole not in the business.

Buzzz  Off  Simp.   tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slivercharm on May 07, 2019, 07:33:08 PM
Anthony sounds like a CUNT

Come to Chicago I’ll kick u in the pussyfoot
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 07, 2019, 09:12:41 PM
Zookeeper not sure about the 80 a day you mention. Just looked at my last bill and while there doesn't show extra charges on anything the breakdown was 65 a day on the two year old. That could include stall rent for all I know which could be 10 dollars a day easy. This doesn't include the hst fee. I've paid different trainers over the last decade and you pay for stuff that leaves you wondering. Also shipping is expensive, was always charged 300 going from the Meadows to Philly or Pocono. First year so can't contest the charge from the day they leave and race out of another barn. I will totally agree with you on the waste of staking all these horses. He will learn some day staking 12k Ohio breds to the BC is nothing but waste. They have over 600 owners and we will see if those numbers go up or down over the next few years. The thing that's different with the stable is some sort of transparency. Ever two weeks you can see the horse go under a drone. Otherwise with any other trainer you have to wait for a qualifier to see a real line to see if the BS for nine months was truth or BS. I think he has gotten stuck buying too many cheap horses thinking it would be easier to fill the 100%.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 07, 2019, 10:50:57 PM
Accounting, billing, or funny stuff will "accounting". I couldn't say since I'm 9 months into it without a race. Just yearlings training down. But no funny stuff on my billing and if so would be first on the phone. I think it could be a cluster fuck of a job for the girl that handles all the billing. Over 600 clients with pieces of this and that.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 07, 2019, 11:36:49 PM
This operation is going to crash and burn shortly imo
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 08, 2019, 07:47:50 AM
This operation is going to crash and burn shortly imo

U THINK SO PURP
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 08, 2019, 08:03:22 AM
A couple of vets packed in their business with Anthony and it wasn't because of payment. A huge ego know-it-all attitude is more damaging to the many owners who know absolutely nothing. The line about the trainer is doing right by the horse, when it comes to TheStable it's what is right for Anthony.

NEWBEES REALLY BECOME SCARED AT THEIR FIRST 1500 VET BILL ngc3 ngc3

FOR 10 PERCENT OF A HORSE ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 08, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
A couple of vets packed in their business with Anthony and it wasn't because of payment. A huge ego know-it-all attitude is more damaging to the many owners who know absolutely nothing. The line about the trainer is doing right by the horse, when it comes to TheStable it's what is right for Anthony.

Let's pay $2,000 starting fees to tell everyone we were in the Breeders crown it doesn't matter that we're ninety-nine to one and don't have a shot and could have made 50000 racing and a lesser steak
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Stan durbread on May 08, 2019, 12:33:40 PM
Then cry that they gave you 9 hole ! After you drew in final only because 2 scratched
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Swandre on May 08, 2019, 02:06:27 PM
I’m enjoying the part where people who own some pieces of horses in a fractional ownership group are enjoying it

and then people who don’t are telling them they aren’t

 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 08, 2019, 02:09:04 PM
I’m enjoying the part where people who own some pieces of horses in a fractional ownership group are enjoying it

and then people who don’t are telling them they aren’t

 ngc3

ITS A PYRAMID SCHEME,.,

..FEW CAN DEEE SIGH FER,

MOST CANT,,

HORSES FIRST

 HAS BEEN  IN THE BUSNISS.......... ..............

HE CAN READ THRU THE NONSENSE AND BULLSHIT BILLS,,

WHERE MOST HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT BILLS AND ADD ON'S..



VIP INTERNET IS ANOTHER ONE ,,PEOPLE HAVE TO STAY AWAY FROM

BAY POND RACING  HAS JUST STARTED A STABLE WHERE ITS EASY TO GET 3 AND 10 PERCENT OF HORSES..,,IN PA,,



Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 08, 2019, 03:06:51 PM
Said it for many years the whole buying yearlings to be involved in this game at the highest is a ponzi scheme. It only enhanced with slots at tracks. I suppose if one gets in the game and is flipping a claimer around just to go to the track weekly is a entirely different story then buying babies. While then paying bills ten months before they even see the gate.Then four months later they are back raising their hand buying more for the next season. Whether they are making or losing money with that first crop. In the end it's the money they are earning in their real life job. The show goes on until the owner either failed or decided he pumped in enough of that disposable income. One best hope is to hit the ground running with luck getting ahead of the game and playing with house money. Then, THEN NOT get foolish and go overboard buying more then he or she should. Also a trainer would rather see you buy 5 for 20k horses then say 2 for 50k or 1 for 100k. As the owner the baby price sometimes the cheapest check you'll write. That's why the ROI is so low and why owners that make money in this business is around 11-13%. Even your best sire offspring at best hit at a 20% strike with foals earning over a 100k. When you see SBSW or Muscle Hill foals selling 6 figures all day long in the ring. 1 in 5 have a chance to bring back JUST the purchase price. Now add in the cost!
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 08, 2019, 03:16:40 PM
disposable income amd crazy training bills usually keep newbies away

in some ways ,,the stable can teach  tmbz1

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 11, 2019, 08:32:45 PM
any reports from the open house?
some long faces after dance hall babe galloped from the second she stepped on the track?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 11, 2019, 08:34:39 PM
would have been big for DHB to race big after Symba was used SUPER hard for the lead only to end up checkless and minus a starting fee...
its a shame.leaving so hard witha  horse like that that isnt used to leaving usually sours them up fast
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 11, 2019, 08:57:44 PM
Anthony MacDonald is a bum. The game has passed him by and he decided let's fleece newbie's. Now go figure how has the game passed him by when he is still wet behind the ears. I have said this from the beginning this will fail but maybe with WEG who are Standardbred Canada and Ontario Racing and they really control everything they won't let him fail. But trust me Anthony is dumber than a bag of nails and if he see's an opportunity to fuck you he will.
i disagree...he is not dumb...
but he is making out like a bandit on this deal while 600 owners are losing money..
not oneof them is turning a profit..
but he is...big time
he just got a 4th going for 25k...
but after shipping...paddoc k...racing fee...starting fee....let alone training and vet bills the owners go even further into debt
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 11, 2019, 09:06:34 PM
no check for the main event of the night better call mike
right about now everyone is thinking "what the fuck did i pay all this money for"

i maybe an asshole anthony...
but id rather rest my head on my pillow being an asshole and shooting it straight and making money for me and those around me then be mr nice guy and rob and steal and mislead
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 12, 2019, 12:09:00 AM
the open house is sunday
the stable of horses is being thinned quickly as the below average ones are moved out at a loss
it will be like any other business, if people are making money or breaking even they will hang in but if 2 or 3 years of losses pile up they will be gone

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 12, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
its for people who want to say cheese in the winners circle but lose money no matter how good the horse is,trainers dont allow the owners to show a profit
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 12:38:29 AM
the open house is sunday
the stable of horses is being thinned quickly as the below average ones are moved out at a loss
it will be like any other business, if people are making money or breaking even they will hang in but if 2 or 3 years of losses pile up they will be gone

NO ONE is making money. Just Anthony
The law of averages would say at least one of the 600 clients would make money or that some of the hundred and sixty horses would but nope
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 12:39:46 AM
its for people who want to say cheese in the winners circle but lose money no matter how good the horse is,trainers dont allow the owners to show a profit
I had a first and two seconds in a month and lost money that month on one of my horses I owned 25% of that was the beginning of the end the end was him charging me a training bill for a month the horse died 10 days into
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 12:41:48 AM
The scary thing is he will make out again when everyone wants out but since no one will want to in he will be able to buy back everyone shares ten cents on the dollar
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 12, 2019, 01:20:12 AM
I had a first and two seconds in a month and lost money that month on one of my horses I owned 25% of that was the beginning of the end the end was him charging me a training bill for a month the horse died 10 days into
On a scale of 1 to 5, can you tell us how bitter you are? ...

1. A little... oh well...
2. I can't believe I git screwed
3.  Even Lucpark ain't this dumb
4.  I'm gonna rant for a week on this thread
5.  i'm studying Be A School Shooter For Dummies

Thnaks for your input

 
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 01:57:35 AM
On a scale of 1 to 5, can you tell us how bitter you are? ...

1. A little... oh well...
2. I can't believe I git screwed
3.  Even Lucpark ain't this dumb
4.  I'm gonna rant for a week on this thread
5.  i'm studying Be A School Shooter For Dummies

Thnaks for your input

This guy gets sour milk of the year..
Hard to admit buying poor animals so blame someone else
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 02:04:46 AM
The scary thing is he will make out again when everyone wants out but since no one will want to in he will be able to buy back everyone shares ten cents on the dollar

You can post as you please but the constant me me me- honestly nobody cares.
As I have always posted, people can make their own minds about fractional ownership- & never did Anthony promise a profit to you or anyone..
 

& yes, people have made money with the stable-
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 07:30:15 AM
The Trotter that was sold for a million dollars was not part of the stable just an FYI so that leaves the only people possible to make money as people who owned lawmaker but I'm guessing that that wasn't the only horse they own in which case they couldn't of made money
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 07:30:46 AM
And yes I am upset I don't like losing money and I am not posting to make it about me but to help other people in the same situation that I was
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 07:36:29 AM
The bottom line is this I did not get into it to make money and I would have had no problem losing money but at the same time I expected that if I did have a horse that was successful that I would make money off of that and if a horse has a win in 2 seconds in a month and you're still out pocket it means someone is making too much money
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 12, 2019, 09:04:39 AM
yes there is some entertainment value of owning horses
however that does go hand in hand with how they perform and do they make money
cant imagine anyone is entertained seeing their horses finish 10 lengths back( which happens quite often) which means they are making no money
the challenge now is there is still hundreds of shares available in very average bred yearlings from the fall
and for current owners who want to sell shares there is no one to buy them unless you give them away
like any business cash flow is king
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: TTitans1 on May 12, 2019, 09:37:52 AM
How could there be that many dumb mf`s out there who would get involved in a scheme like this?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: wiggles44 on May 12, 2019, 09:53:49 AM
instead of the typical trainer stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars off of a few owners, the stable is stealing a few hundred dollars off of thousands of owners.......
 11.wj
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 10:51:14 AM
You guys can jump down my throat and call me a complainer and whatever you want but the bottom line is I am alerting of a much bigger problem that is about to happen
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 10:52:42 AM
Furthermore to assume that fractional ownership cannot be profitable is incorrect the issue is the way things are mismanaged such as putting horses in over their head or not giving accurate depictions of how each horses actually doing which is borderline Criminal what shares can be sold at anytime
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 10:53:43 AM
Your horse is doing great your horse is doing great your horse is doing great we sold your horse we can only get $3,000 sorry you're out 40,000 is going to be the message, a lot of angry owners on Tuesday
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 11:05:47 AM
Purplesheet was the same posting how great the stable was a few months ago..
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: wiggles44 on May 12, 2019, 11:06:14 AM
more free advertising this morning
your standardbred canada fees are being put to good use

who pays the live streaming fees?
who pays the drivers for today?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 11:06:55 AM
Purplesheet was the same posting how great the stable was a few months ago..

That's exactly right and that should go to show you how this works everything seems great until you peel back the curtain
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 11:09:28 AM
That's exactly right and that should go to show you how this works everything seems great until you peel back the curtain

everything is the same except you lost $$$..
seems like sour grapes to me.....jmo
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Atthetrack7 on May 12, 2019, 11:11:59 AM
 At least here on plop we are getting the facts

A BUNCH OF LOSERS TALKING ABOUT LOSING

 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 11:29:23 AM
everything is the same except you lost $$$..
seems like sour grapes to me.....jmo

It may be sour grapes for me but there's going to be squashed grapes elsewhere and a lot of them

Last but not least how could I forget to mention his quote on quote give away of shares of the worst horses of the stable that no one would buy for even $40 so he can get paid a training bill on those
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
Why not give away shares of an actual good horse or give away shares of the worst horse but not require people to pay bills on their 1% though that's right because they Anthony would be out of pocket even a little bit the same way he wouldn't I think it's the right thing to do to not charge people a training bill when their horse dies but nope Anthony has to be in pocket for everything..
Little things go a long way but when you are selfish and want to make money off of every single opportunity it is destined to fail
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Racing Beard on May 12, 2019, 11:32:44 AM
At least here on plop we are getting the facts

A BUNCH OF LOSERS TALKING ABOUT LOSING

 ngc3

DZ, the only thing these people are experts on is how other people should spend their money
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: COTTONWOOD FARM on May 12, 2019, 11:35:51 AM

It may be sour grapes for me but there's going to be squashed grapes elsewhere and a lot of them



At least with the crushed grapes you can make some Organic WHINE
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slimshady on May 12, 2019, 11:51:22 AM
"The bottom line is this I did not get into it to make money and I would have had no problem losing money but at the same time I expected that if I did have a horse that was successful that I would make money off of that and if a horse has a win in 2 seconds in a month and you're still out pocket it means someone is making too much money."

I agree, if you have a horse with a win and 2 seconds in a month and you lose money, something is wrong.  Shit, even if it is running for a purse of $4000 in those 3 races, you still have revenue of $4000.   If The STable is charging more than $4k per horse per month, they are gouging somewhere.   If they are taking 3 horses to the same track to race, I would love to see what they are charging for shipping.   Their vet must have a one stop business with all the horses they have under one roof.   Interesting to see what charges are flowing through, and for what treatments.

I don't blame you for wanting some answers to your concerns.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 12:07:19 PM
Why not give away shares of an actual good horse or give away shares of the worst horse but not require people to pay bills on their 1% though that's right because they Anthony would be out of pocket even a little bit the same way he wouldn't I think it's the right thing to do to not charge people a training bill when their horse dies but nope Anthony has to be in pocket for everything..
Little things go a long way but when you are selfish and want to make money off of every single opportunity it is destined to fail

WHY THE FUCK DID U INVEST IN THIS STUPID FUCKIN CRAP IN THE FIRST PLACE

ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE MONEY

BUY A QUARTER OR HALF A HORSE OR WHAT EVER HAVE FUN ,,WIN OR LOSE,,

5 ,12,percent 9 perc etc etc ,,,why


BUT THIS PONZO PYRAMID SCHEME U CANT MAKE MONEY

IMPOSSIBLE
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 12:07:26 PM
6k a month to race an overnight horse.
Shipping is 130 per horse for a 30 minute trip...even when they race 8. I find it hard to believe a shipper is getting paid 1k for a 30 minute trip
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 12:42:23 PM
there have always been & always will be fractional ownership groups.  (and have sampled a bunch of them)
Listen I don't have some mega ego like Lucpark who wants to shout about buying the sales topper or how you need to own a certain
amount to be a legitimate owner or some of these other bustouts who obviously have a personal axe to grind.

I have enjoyed my dealings, met some great people & that is good enough for me.

& ps  this is not paid advertisement- there are some aspects that do aggravate me

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 12:58:16 PM
Hey lavern purple. .
When I can get my free steakhouse dinner you lost a bet I recall to LUCPARK
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 01:05:36 PM
Hey lavern purple. .
When I can get my free steakhouse dinner you lost a bet I recall to LUCPARK

absolutely!
I haven't forgot
I am planning a Hoosier visit next weekend- you going to be there..


easy on the shrimp cocktail though-  I am just a small time owner ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: McGIBBS on May 12, 2019, 01:16:20 PM
Hey lavern purple. .
When I can get my free steakhouse dinner you lost a bet I recall to LUCPARK

St Elmo's will do
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Stan durbread on May 12, 2019, 01:17:42 PM
What happened to the $2000 a month all in that they advertised all over the live feeds at Canadian tracks?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
absolutely!
I haven't forgot
I am planning a Hoosier visit next weekend- you going to be there..


easy on the shrimp cocktail though-  I am just a small time owner ngc3

you got a good deal on swan,da g.

,,enjoy the rest of the yr this yr hopefully your babies come along

your driver trainer did good interview,other night,,
,its a hard game im not a big time owner

i just race 5 or 6 a yr..

im not in it to make money ,,its love of the horse for me,,

i m racin fri,,one or 2 ,,see how they draw,,

..going weds and thurs after
delware sale tues.


Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 01:26:53 PM
What happened to the $2000 a month all in that they advertised all over the live feeds at Canadian tracks?

Exactly my point.
I don't mind losing money but shoot me straight
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 01:47:00 PM
you got a good deal on swan,da g.

,,enjoy the rest of the yr this yr hopefully your babies come along

your driver trainer did good interview,other night,,
,its a hard game im not a big time owner

i just race 5 or 6 a yr..

im not in it to make money ,,its love of the horse for me,,

i m racin fri,,one or 2 ,,see how they draw,,

..going weds and thurs after
delware sale tues.

he is a solid family guy for sure...
couldn't have done any better for us with STG
Killed my wallet on Friday, told him deducting from training bill..

Had our eye on a few horses in Delaware- one is out so not sure I want to travel for 1 horse...

Maybe we can meet up friday
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: whiptherabbit on May 12, 2019, 02:07:51 PM
I just watched the big m replays last night & the village idiot was on talking with Brower about the thepozischeme.ca

I'm surprised the free publicity they give the guy as well, hes phonier then the last 1/4 times at the big m.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 02:35:49 PM
Did he mention the 12 he had in the sale that he paid 400k for and got paid 600k training bills on that will sell for less than 100k total? Or did he forget to mention that
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 02:37:32 PM
Btw all horses he ADMITS that he made a "mistake" to keep around for so long...
What a convenient mistake a 4k per month per
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 02:53:44 PM
Btw all horses he ADMITS that he made a "mistake" to keep around for so long...
What a convenient mistake a 4k per month per

& again you would be the first guy crying if he sold one  that he didn't like right away- & turned into a nice race horse..
That he wasn't patient enough..

A horse like Yes was a total rat training down & has turned into a nice horse...

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 02:54:53 PM
 I told him two months ago I would buy bea my delight.. he said that the partners didn't want to sell (which he made the decision on their behalf without asking them to) training months later and no checks later the horse will sell for 3000 way to represent
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 02:57:14 PM
& again you would be the first guy crying if he sold one  that he didn't like right away- & turned into a nice race horse..
That he wasn't patient enough..

A horse like Yes was a total rat training down & has turned into a nice horse...

Has yes made money?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 02:59:42 PM
I told him two months ago I would buy bea my delight.. he said that the partners didn't want to sell (which he made the decision on their behalf without asking them to) training months later and no checks later the horse will sell for 3000 way to represent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 03:03:33 PM
I sold all my shares after the Hackett elim..
as for 2018 YES made 35 k
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slivercharm on May 12, 2019, 03:25:34 PM
Heard a law suit was pending

Not even HT got acquit this CUNT
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Swandre on May 12, 2019, 03:41:01 PM
I’m not sure if it’s comical or sad reading you dummies thinking you know anything. the risks involved at The Stable are the same as the risks owning any horse with any trainer. for the person wondering who pays for the live stream : it’s The Stable, and it’s expensive. they pay a lot of money to live stream, a lot of money to run the website and app too. who was the guy saying the ‘short shipping here in ohio’ you mean Miami Valley which is 2 hours away or Northfield which is 2 and a half hours away? show me a trainer who gives shipping discounts related to how many horses they’re racing and I’ll show you a trainer losing money on their rigs.

and for all the haters I just want you to know today’s Open House was a hit despite terrible weather. get mad.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 03:44:00 PM
JOSH COUGHMAN aka purple sheets

IS A BIG FUCKIN CRYBABY..

is this FAKE HEBREW EVER HAPPY ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

..

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 12, 2019, 03:52:25 PM
I want to hire

Purple Sheet Picks

to Professionally Mourn

at my funeral.

 tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 03:53:15 PM
I want to hire

Purple Sheet Picks

to Professionally Mourn

at my funeral.

 tmbz1


 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

IM FUCKIN CRYIN

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 12, 2019, 03:58:09 PM
 11.gn 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 04:22:14 PM
I’m not sure if it’s comical or sad reading you dummies thinking you know anything. the risks involved at The Stable are the same as the risks owning any horse with any trainer. for the person wondering who pays for the live stream : it’s The Stable, and it’s expensive. they pay a lot of money to live stream, a lot of money to run the website and app too. who was the guy saying the ‘short shipping here in ohio’ you mean Miami Valley which is 2 hours away or Northfield which is 2 and a half hours away? show me a trainer who gives shipping discounts related to how many horses they’re racing and I’ll show you a trainer losing money on their rigs.

and for all the haters I just want you to know today’s Open House was a hit despite terrible weather. get mad.

Since when does livestream cost anything?
I think you can broadcast for free these days.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 04:24:55 PM
Defend symba shippong to race for 50 k and payimg shipppong and starting fees getting nothing even while being used super hard while you could have saved shippimh 6 hrs and starting fees AND gotten a check racing in onterio...oh but thrn you cant tell people you raced in a stakr
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 04:26:56 PM
You know a trainer who would charge a partial training bill afyer a horse dies? And he has already collected 7 months ttainong bills on thr horse?
Dont you think a rrasonable person might let that bill slide ?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
You know a trainer who would charge a partial training bill afyer a horse dies? And he has already collected 7 months ttainong bills on thr horse?
Dont you think a rrasonable person might let that bill slide ?

YOUR HORSE DIED..

WAS HE ALIVE THE FIRST HALF OF THE MONTH

YES

THEN U PAY,,JOSH]

STOP CRYIN U CHEAP FUCK

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 12, 2019, 04:32:10 PM
YOUR HORSE DIED..

WAS HE ALIVE THE FIRST HALF OF THE MONTH

YES

THEN U PAY,,JOSH]

STOP CRYIN U CHEAP FUCK

I did pay
And then i sell all my shares and move on

Im done. Others decide fir yourselves
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 12, 2019, 04:35:55 PM
I did pay
And then i sell all my shares and move on

Im done. Others decide fir yourselves

BUT U DID CRY BEFORE U PAID..

..IN OTHERS WORDS,,,U BEGGED TO LET ANTHONY LET U SLIDE FOR HALF THE MONTHLY BILL

CUS OF AN UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT..

..ARE ALL FCKIN NEWYORK  HEBREWS THIS  FUCKIN CHEEP

I HATE CHEEP MUTHERFUCKERS WHO WEAR THE SAME FCKIN CLOTHES EVERY DAY


OOPS THATS YOU ,,JOSHUA COUGHMAN

SAW U THREE DAYS INA ROW WITH SAME CLOTHES AT DELEWARE  SALE,,LAST TIME

PEEEE UUUUUU,,
YOU WERE EXTREMELY RIPE ON THE THIRD DAY.. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1

..BATHE AND BRING CLOTHES ..ARE U THAT SCUMMY AND DISGUSTING
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slimshady on May 12, 2019, 05:24:42 PM
"for the person wondering who pays for the live stream : it’s The Stable, and it’s expensive. they pay a lot of money to live stream, a lot of money to run the website and app too. "

LOL   I'm sure it's really expensive when it's your brother that owns the video / drone company doing the recording.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slivercharm on May 12, 2019, 05:34:38 PM
I’m not sure if it’s comical or sad reading you dummies thinking you know anything. the risks involved at The Stable are the same as the risks owning any horse with any trainer. for the person wondering who pays for the live stream : it’s The Stable, and it’s expensive. they pay a lot of money to live stream, a lot of money to run the website and app too. who was the guy saying the ‘short shipping here in ohio’ you mean Miami Valley which is 2 hours away or Northfield which is 2 and a half hours away? show me a trainer who gives shipping discounts related to how many horses they’re racing and I’ll show you a trainer losing money on their rigs.

and for all the haters I just want you to know today’s Open House was a hit despite terrible weather. get mad.

Go fuck yourself
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 12, 2019, 07:15:59 PM
if you wanna say cheese so bad just go to yonkers and jump in the winners circle any race ,no owers ever go to yonkers anymore
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 12, 2019, 07:22:21 PM
if you wanna say cheese so bad just go to yonkers and jump in the winners circle any race ,no owers ever go to yonkers anymore
I do that a couple times a year.
 tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 12, 2019, 07:57:25 PM
I do that a couple times a year.
 tmbz1
and its free
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Swandre on May 13, 2019, 11:06:09 AM
"for the person wondering who pays for the live stream : it’s The Stable, and it’s expensive. they pay a lot of money to live stream, a lot of money to run the website and app too. "

LOL   I'm sure it's really expensive when it's your brother that owns the video / drone company doing the recording.

the difference between you and I is that I know and you don’t
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slimshady on May 13, 2019, 12:02:56 PM
"the difference between you and I is that I know and you don’t"

Swandre   ...     TROT magazine had an article on people making a difference in harness racing.
Both Anthony and his brother were in it.
Anthony for The Stable and his brother for Video stuff, including work for The Stable.
If you know the article is bull shit, you should take it up with Trot, not me.

Maybe you don't know as much as you think!     You wouldn't be the first on here.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: RWB on May 13, 2019, 09:15:16 PM
If you put a dollar in there with the thought of getting two out, then you are foolish. You are paying Scamthony handsomely so you can say you own a horse. The only guy ever going to make money is him. He could never train or drive and yet look at these people continuing to buy a piece of a horse. There is a fool born every day and he is finding all of them.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 14, 2019, 01:07:04 AM
Sounds crazy but unless I have missed it over my ten years and a handful of trainers. There must be hundreds of trainers with owners out there killing it each year? Foolish me for not being able to see through the shit. If your spending hundreds of dollars on a share or two. Or thousands on a .25. Or tens of thousands on a couple. Six figures on a small stable or millions playing in the deep end of the pool. Enter any other trainer name instead of Anthony and you will have the same issues. There aren't many, I'm sure on here that could afford a training bill let alone pay a Coleman or Alagna VET BILL! They aren't the only two but they are two of the highest out there with high monthly bills. I've had nw1 horses and monthly bills at 6500 and go higher when the trainer taps this or maintenance on that. I hear people complain that Anthony is trimming fat from some 3 year olds that didn't come back(holy fuck that has NEVER happened) or two year olds not fast enough or have the heart for it. Most trainers will keep the dream alive for another few months of training bills. To me most trainers seem cut from the same cloth. Being a salesman goes with the job. Was told Brian Pinske couldn't train, much less be in the bike for fast miles. But could bullshit a couple million dollars of horse flesh onto owners. Or the old Tony Morgan story saying owners are like mushrooms...all you need to do is keep them in the dark and feed them a bunch of shit. Now..I know there are some good small stable trainers out there that are owner friendly. You may or may not get that state sire horse that can compete but it happens time to time. Burke and Takter can't buy them all.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slimshady on May 14, 2019, 08:31:15 AM
Horses First and Iceman are right on the money.

Enter as a hobby, at a level you can afford to lose everything.   It's just another form of gambling.
When you go to Vegas, only take what you can lose.
When you become a horse owner at any level, The Stable or Coleman, only invest what you can afford to lose.
And remember, the purchase price is the smallest part of the investment.   The training bills and the shipping bills and the VET BILLS and the stakes payment bills are what will kill you.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 14, 2019, 12:42:54 PM
and its free
I give Manager a few dollars
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: wiggles44 on May 14, 2019, 04:21:34 PM
The training bills and the shipping bills and the VET BILLS and the stakes payment bills are what will kill you.

then cement hands lists himself to drive
 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: eyeinthesky on May 14, 2019, 04:51:34 PM
Springfield Ohio Sale ..Today

http://www.bloodedhorse.com/19May/results/index.php?filter=name&catalog=catalog_1.html

It looks like he sold 5 horses.......with 3 others pulled out

Hip numbers 83............... .....92....appear to be his based on race lines and trainer/driver stats

He got  $ 6000...6200....77 00....10,000.....and 11,000..............Total $ 40,900

How many did he list in the sale ??

Can his "trainers" be improved on ??
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 14, 2019, 04:55:23 PM
if I owned any of those that sold I would consider the money received like a lottery win and cash that cheque very fast
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 14, 2019, 05:34:27 PM
Springfield Ohio Sale ..Today

http://www.bloodedhorse.com/19May/results/index.php?filter=name&catalog=catalog_1.html

It looks like he sold 5 horses.......with 3 others pulled out

Hip numbers 83............... .....92....appear to be his based on race lines and trainer/driver stats

He got  $ 6000...6200....77 00....10,000.....and 11,000..............Total $ 40,900

How many did he list in the sale ??

Can his "trainers" be improved on ??

Sold 12

Avg 8 per sale....40k per bill and 30k per purchase. 60k loss per sale
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 14, 2019, 05:35:05 PM
if I owned any of those that sold I would consider the money received like a lottery win and cash that cheque very fast

Even when the horse is sold it is a hassle to get your money out
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: pylon on May 14, 2019, 06:40:09 PM
Even when the horse is sold it is a hassle to get your money out

kinda like poker sites.....you can put money in, but try to get it out, good luck
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slivercharm on May 14, 2019, 06:40:24 PM
Even when the horse is sold it is a hassle to get your money out

Sad
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 14, 2019, 06:43:04 PM
i dont know anyone that is happy after one year
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 14, 2019, 06:44:10 PM
they just wanna say cheese,i just dont get it
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 14, 2019, 07:21:43 PM
i dont know anyone that is happy after one year
You think any of these geniuses posting on this thread make a profit?

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 14, 2019, 07:22:20 PM
Like I said all the entities WEG, ONTARIO RACING, STANDARDBRED CANADA AND HRU will drop them like a hot potato. As far as I'm concerned they are a huge part of the problem. Why does racing think they need small piece players to fill races. Do your frigging job and rid the game of the chemists and then let those who then want in fill the races. A bettor has a better chance in Vegas than in racing to get their thrill and maybe make something.
Thnaks Tim.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 14, 2019, 07:26:54 PM
You think any of these geniuses posting on this thread make a profit?
sad ,just to say cheese you get robbed
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 14, 2019, 07:50:06 PM
You think any of these geniuses posting on this thread make a profit?

Some of the greatest harness minds ever assembled posting their brilliance...
The same ones who couldn't even buy a share of a race horse, the same ones going through the garbage cans to find a program at the OTB while blowing rent money.

I have seen it from a many different angles- & usually the ones telling you the business are the dumbest rocks in the garden...
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 14, 2019, 08:32:13 PM
Purp I was in the game and did not bad and I am not stupid enough to say I made money but I did a little better than break even and had a great time. Now I attend the races with expendable cash, win or lose a good night out. Not even god himself would go as far to say you will do ok or break even so when it comes to something that was too good to believe from the beginning then anyone with 1 smidgen of intelligence has a right to speak their opinion. A scam is a scam is a scam and life's lessons will clue you in. No one not even god gives you nothing for nothing.

We can agree to disagree- & will not go into details but have made money 2 years in a row..
Yes, plenty of luck involved..
But just like you said, you were in the game & had a great time....& maybe that is good enough for some people..
Anthony never says you are going to make money- in fact he says you probably won't-  so not really sure how that is something that is too good to be true..
Some people buy a few shares of a horse for $500 & can play pretend owner..They can go to the track, backstretch, not to mention meet some pretty excellent people.

I have always said people can have their own opinions about fractional ownership but to think Anthony is any different from the other operations is pretty naïve,,
I do know that most of the fractional groups I dealt with in t breds buy a horse for 50 & then syndicate him for 100..That is not the case here- if he buys a horse for 10, the shares are $100...
In terms of making money, if you are simply looking for profit can think of some better options for sure..
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 14, 2019, 08:35:25 PM
Some of the greatest harness minds ever assembled posting their brilliance...
The same ones who couldn't even buy a share of a race horse, the same ones going through the garbage cans to find a program at the OTB while blowing rent money.

I have seen it from a many different angles- & usually the ones telling you the business are the dumbest rocks in the garden...
do you know anyone happy after a year?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 14, 2019, 08:47:40 PM
do you know anyone happy after a year?

Honestly Pig....If I can still convince my wife to have sex that makes me happy..
Suppose it depends on what your goals are....I see guys who think they are smarter then everyone else a year later mfing the guy for cheating them this & that- butt hurt because all the horses they bought turned into goats...
There are issues like over staking, him driving, & a few other things that I would change personally..
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 14, 2019, 08:57:09 PM
Purp at least we can agree to disagree, you have your experience as do I but I don't know much about others here or their opinions but they must have been in the game to offer an opinion and oddly their opinion is much the same as mine. The one thing in this game that I picked up from Bill Wellwood is that those who say they lost are giving it to you straight because the game for it's size doesn't spit out many winners.

Again... I didn't mind losing money with him I expected to it was the not being spoken to on the level about how the horses were doing and what the bills would be
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 14, 2019, 08:59:34 PM
Honestly Pig....If I can still convince my wife to have sex that makes me happy..
Suppose it depends on what your goals are....I see guys who think they are smarter then everyone else a year later mfing the guy for cheating them this & that- butt hurt because all the horses they bought turned into goats...
There are issues like over staking, him driving, & a few other things that I would change personally..
tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PIGLAND on May 14, 2019, 09:00:07 PM
Again... I didn't mind losing money with him I expected to it was the not being spoken to on the level about how the horses were doing and what the bills would be
tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slimshady on May 14, 2019, 09:08:09 PM
"it was the not being spoken to on the level about how the horses were doing and what the bills would be."


PPS  ...   Telling you the horse is training like a champ is what most trainers will tell you.  That means they are all bshitters or eternal optimists. 
There should be no billing surprises in the fractional model.
If the contract says shipping to the track will be $500 a load divided by the number of horses on the truck, to a maximum of $130, then he charges $130 per group with 7 horses on the truck, that is fraud.
If the fractional contract isn't detailed around expenses, you probably shouldn't have signed it. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 14, 2019, 09:15:48 PM
"it was the not being spoken to on the level about how the horses were doing and what the bills would be."


PPS  ...   Telling you the horse is training like a champ is what most trainers will tell you.  That means they are all bshitters or eternal optimists. 
There should be no billing surprises in the fractional model.
If the contract says shipping to the track will be $500 a load divided by the number of horses on the truck, to a maximum of $130, then he charges $130 per group with 7 horses on the truck, that is fraud.
If the fractional contract isn't detailed around expenses, you probably shouldn't have signed it.

nobody holding a gun to anyones head..
You can buy a share for $100- hold it for 6 months..If its not for you then you leave- very simple
I know Andrew Harris  charges X no matter how many are on the truck- I know some that divide the amount by the horses..
seems like there is no written rule when it comes to shipping

The fraud is me writing a huge check to the Chicago Bulls for season tickets..fuckers can't even tank correctly
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 14, 2019, 11:31:21 PM
If your buying yearlings and they are training down after the March stake payments the comments are doing their job and are smart. Apr payments the same with adding some speed and going double headers. After the May stake payments it starts to get fuzzy with those list of excuses that usually start when they get to the gate on race day. Just remember 1 thing as a owner the trainer can bullshit all he wants, the first time the owner can see the truth is on a race line in a qualifier.

With the stable you can call bullshit on Anthony anytime twice a month watching the drone video. As I have stated the bills have been straight forward so far with no issues and no off the wall charges. When they start to race I will know by past experience what to expect. As far as selling horses at the sale today he sent 12 of the 393. So I'm assuming there are plenty other unsatisfied shoppers from a yearling sale, a bad claim, a horse kept way to long, a partner squabble, or a horse with no heart for the track. Maybe something lame or one that flips. This thread has plenty of chuckles in what to expect in owning a race horse. While the guy complaining a lot needs to look at yearling prices the stable paid. They bought majority of those 72 under 20k. Not 30k like he thinks and his 40k already per a horse training the past 8 months. If so that's 8 months times 5k a month. Sorry Charlie, the bill is less then half that figure in American dollars. Sure March, April, and May are higher with stake payments. Then again if it's OH or IN your staking to a lot less.

I have owned a nice number of horses that made over 100k. However...I have owned a lot more that made a lot less or nothing at all. If your picking yearlings your lucky to find two good ones out of 10. You just hope the other 8 aren't all slugs. Probably better off all 8 where sold in May at two to cut the loses in the long run. Had to learn early that they aren't pets.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 14, 2019, 11:46:20 PM
Of course he buys them cheap because the training bill is the same no matter what the more the merrier
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 15, 2019, 01:01:21 AM
Well by your reporting they weren't cheap as you stated he paid 400k for the 12 in the sale tofay and 600k on training bills. Either sarcasm or fake news. But if you want to rat the guy out or call the BBB. At least get your facts somewhat close to be reliable and we take take it being a legit rant.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 15, 2019, 06:49:17 AM
Well by your reporting they weren't cheap as you stated he paid 400k for the 12 in the sale tofay and 600k on training bills. Either sarcasm or fake news. But if you want to rat the guy out or call the BBB. At least get your facts somewhat close to be reliable and we take take it being a legit rant.

puplre sheets

aka

johs kaufman,,is mad cus nthony didnt cut him some slack on a monthly bill where hiz horse unfortunitly died,,josh feels he should not pay for the first 15 days horse was alive

same josh that called the race sec at freehold on julie miller because her decnt horse fit the same condition josh's rat fit,,
joshua embarressed himself for 135.14 cents

jimmy ,,the is a fkcin pigeon,,

plAy him like a PIGEON tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2019, 08:47:01 AM
Well by your reporting they weren't cheap as you stated he paid 400k for the 12 in the sale tofay and 600k on training bills. Either sarcasm or fake news. But if you want to rat the guy out or call the BBB. At least get your facts somewhat close to be reliable and we take take it being a legit rant.

The butler did it...35k yearling
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2019, 08:48:31 AM
puplre sheets

aka

johs kaufman,,is mad cus nthony didnt cut him some slack on a monthly bill where hiz horse unfortunitly died,,josh feels he should not pay for the first 15 days horse was alive

same josh that called the race sec at freehold on julie miller because her decnt horse fit the same condition josh's rat fit,,
joshua embarressed himself for 135.14 cents

jimmy ,,the is a fkcin pigeon,,

plAy him like a PIGEON tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Didnt see you at the sale yesterday?
You got scared?
Good move. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 15, 2019, 09:45:40 AM
Didnt see you at the sale yesterday?
You got scared?
Good move.
'
yes pet tree fyied ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 15, 2019, 09:49:00 AM
Paid 35k for a horse and the point is? I bought a yearling through a KY farm at the Ohio Jug sale. Had the farm take him back for 30 days before it was time to break him. He came back and a weak later was dead in the stall. Was a few years ago don't remember the why...something as a young horse his immune system might not have develop as it should have. The farm gave me nothing back as I did ask and maybe hope for something residual or credits down the road. I was disappointed but moved on. I believe the person with a lot of anger here just needs to move on and pick a new hobby. Horse owning isn't for everyone.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Calhoun on May 15, 2019, 10:06:31 AM
puplre sheets

aka

johs kaufman,,is mad cus nthony didnt cut him some slack on a monthly bill where hiz horse unfortunitly died,,josh feels he should not pay for the first 15 days horse was alive

same josh that called the race sec at freehold on julie miller because her decnt horse fit the same condition josh's rat fit,,
joshua embarressed himself for 135.14 cents

jimmy ,,the is a fkcin pigeon,,

plAy him like a PIGEON tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
WAiT A MINutE

Is this the same guy who cried when he got beat in that N$1000L5?

Or are there two  of them?

OMFG
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 15, 2019, 10:17:42 AM
wow
first off owning yearlings is risky, its not for everyone, go get a $10 k claimer and have some fun until it breaks down
also as everyone knows barns are full of $100k yearlings or more that cant race
different ways of approaching it, you can buy into the cheaper ones and hope one or two overachieve or buy into fewer of better quality and the odds should improve
remember value is not always the cheapest sale price
at the end of the day you are putting your faith ( and your cash ) with someone and hope they do well
they pick out the yearlings( and then you can pick what ones you want) and they train them down
if you are not comfortable in their ability to pick yearlings and train them you should not invest with them
clearly they appeal to the lower end or beginners in the market , letting them get involved cheaply and hope to get a few winners out of the mix
if that is not your ownership profile you should go to another trainer/stable
lots of choices out there that will gladly take your cash
ggod luck
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2019, 11:33:34 AM
I got out of "the stable"
Much more fun and profitable running my own
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
WAiT A MINutE

Is this the same guy who cried when he got beat in that N$1000L5?

Or are there two  of them?

OMFG

It doesnt matter if it nw 1000 or open, its principles..
Those are the issues
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 15, 2019, 11:53:34 AM
I got out of "the stable"
Much more fun and profitable running my own

yes I agree UBER can be a blast

stfu  u fckin NIT WIT..

GET YOUR LAWYER PAPPA DADDIE TO BUY U NEW FUCKIN CLOTHES ,
YOUR DRESSING LIEK ONE OF THE 10 APOSTLES,,

CHANGE CLOTHES PLS YOU FCKIN STINK tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2019, 11:56:55 AM
yes I agree UBER can be a blast

stfu  u fckin NIT WIT..

GET YOUR LAWYER PAPPA DADDIE TO BUY U NEW FUCKIN CLOTHES ,
YOUR DRESSING LIEK ONE OF THE 10 APOSTLES,,

CHANGE CLOTHES PLS YOU FCKIN STINK tmbz1

Keep talking..
Next tine i see you ill keep in mind all this
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 15, 2019, 11:57:40 AM
Keep talking..
Next tine i see you ill keep in mind all this

YES IM WAITING

BIG MIKEY LOVES FAT GUYS LIKE YOU tmbz1

I WILL PERSONALLY WATCH HIM FUCK UU IN THE ASS,

I LUV MAN SEX tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 15, 2019, 12:06:29 PM
ANTHONY HAS ALOT OF BABIES IF 10 PERCENT MAKE IT THE TRACK ITS A PLUS

IF A FEW ARE SSIRE MATERIAL THATS GREAT

CANT MAKE ANY MONEY IN THIS BUSINESS HAVE FUN

TAKE A FEW PICS,,

EXPECT A LOSS IN THE BANK ACCOUNT
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2019, 03:47:01 PM
ANTHONY HAS ALOT OF BABIES IF 10 PERCENT MAKE IT THE TRACK ITS A PLUS

IF A FEW ARE SSIRE MATERIAL THATS GREAT

CANT MAKE ANY MONEY IN THIS BUSINESS HAVE FUN

TAKE A FEW PICS,,

EXPECT A LOSS IN THE BANK ACCOUNT

Again, speak for yourself
Tell yourself you cant make money to make yourself feel better..

Plenty mske money, just not you
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: slivercharm on May 15, 2019, 06:40:57 PM
Again, speak for yourself
Tell yourself you cant make money to make yourself feel better..

Plenty mske money, just not you

Yes they do

you all ever heard of singletree run
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Fatboy on May 15, 2019, 06:46:13 PM
Yes they do

you all ever heard of singletree run

 I HAVE SOME PICTURES SOMEWHERE SKELETON 73cv.2
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 15, 2019, 07:26:38 PM
PSP many make money😂😂! Now your just delusional.  The fact is 11-13% make money in this game. And if your lucky to make money get out ahead. Law of averages will make you a loser. Also if you have a good 2 year old. Sell when the iron is hot. Word of advice I wish I would have taken over the years. Always better to take the silver then on waiting what may or not be the gold. I would be first to admit to my own mistakes in this sport.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2019, 07:54:56 PM
PSP many make money😂😂! Now your just delusional.  The fact is 11-13% make money in this game. And if your lucky to make money get out ahead. Law of averages will make you a loser. Also if you have a good 2 year old. Sell when the iron is hot. Word of advice I wish I would have taken over the years. Always better to take the silver then on waiting what may or not be the gold. I would be first to admit to my own mistakes in this sport.

You are certainly right I definitely should sell at the top more often but it is a lot easier to make money than people think it really comes down to not overpaying for horses and classifying them correctly
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Fatboy on May 15, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
You are certainly right I definitely should sell at the top more often but it is a lot easier to make money than people think it really comes down to not overpaying for horses and classifying them correctly

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT OVERPAYING IS IF ITS JUST A YEARLING?  CHANCES ARE YOU OVERPAID ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2019, 10:09:22 PM
i dont buy yearlings....that s why i went with the stable in the first place
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on May 17, 2019, 11:46:53 PM
Yikes how much are shares for in this horse

(https://i.imgur.com/Hq4aGVg.png)
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 12:05:58 AM
Yikes how much are shares for in this horse

(https://i.imgur.com/Hq4aGVg.png)

they bought it JUST TO RACE in the cup and saucer so anthony could have fun
they paid ALOT for him
didnt get a check in the cup
and right down the class ladder ever since
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 12:12:22 AM
the operation and promotion reminds me of alot of bad football coaches that they know...
they love reporting on EVERYTHING up untill the race/game and then you dont hear much after...
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 18, 2019, 12:25:54 AM
Horse did win by 7 lengths in 53.3..
Not that it matters- but feel the other purple would have been on here right after the race had he lost..
was not the Levy but this horse could run off a bunch in Chicago..

I think you could have bought shares around $400 cdn last week
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 12:39:05 AM
Didn't even pay his bills for the week

You are missing the major point which is that Anthony put his own needs ahead of the finances of the clients because he wanted a horse to race in the cup and saucer. Whether they overpaid or not with out of the question it wasn't his money he got what he wanted to race in The Big Race and since then the owners have taken a beating while he had fun
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 18, 2019, 12:45:00 AM
Didn't even pay his bills for the week

You are missing the major point which is that Anthony put his own needs ahead of the finances of the clients because he wanted a horse to race in the cup and saucer. Whether they overpaid or not with out of the question it wasn't his money he got what he wanted to race in The Big Race and since then the owners have taken a beating while he had fun

as far as I know nobody had a gun held to their head when this horse was purchased..
Not my kind of horse- purchase off Burke..but obviously many felt different..
again, hoe people want to spend their money shouldn't really bother you..

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 12:49:18 AM
I'm sorry but it does bother me when people are purposely mislead for one person's benefit ask the people behind the Madoff scam how they feel about being misled by people or ask some of the people from the stable besides myself or some of the owners that paid considerably more per share and are now selling them at 20% of what they paid
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 18, 2019, 12:55:52 AM
I'm sorry but it does bother me when people are purposely mislead for one person's benefit ask the people behind the Madoff scam how they feel about being misled by people or ask some of the people from the stable besides myself or some of the owners that paid considerably more per share and are now selling them at 20% of what they paid

I just don't understand "mislead"...They bought a horse thought could compete in that pei crap, didn't work out..SO WHAT
they paid 280 K for rock & tony so Burke is Madoff too..
Look up any sales results catalog for the last x years & you will see plenty of 6 figure flops every sale...
The Madoff scam remark actually hurts your credibility with any argument imo….we all know he was never buying any stocks allalong.
So you are saying he is buying mind horses?  don't quite understand- especially someone who was so enthusiastic about the stable nary 6 months ago,

& somehow me thinks if your horses would have turned out to be better - you would still be saying how great it is
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 01:01:18 AM
You don't get it at all my horse turned out well and I still got pounded that's the problem

I sold horses at the absolute top and bought horses at the absolute bottom and the horses that I bought ended up doing well and I still lost money that's the problem you can criticize me all you want but believe me there's going to be plenty plenty plenty more where this came from
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 01:03:35 AM
When you have a 160 horses and you're trying to tell me that winning a non-winners of a thousand for a $3,500 purse is something to brag about or put a feather in your cap about you are really in trouble
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on May 18, 2019, 01:04:24 AM
Horse did win by 7 lengths in 53.3..
Not that it matters- but feel the other purple would have been on here right after the race had he lost..
was not the Levy but this horse could run off a bunch in Chicago..

I think you could have bought shares around $400 cdn last week

for a giant $3500 purse!
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 01:04:33 AM
I paid $5,000 for a horse and was racing in non-winners of 1000 and was getting crucified by this message board but somehow paying 80000 + for a horse and racing in 9 winners of 1000 and getting a win in it for the stable even though they're losing money and something that is putting me in my place? I'm done talkin about this just remember when the ship Burns you heard it here first
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 18, 2019, 08:15:39 AM
amongst all the banter going on the truth is somewhere in the middle
just to clarify
purple lavern, i see you say you and everybody knew madoff was running a scam, ok, he scammed everyone and it took the feds years to catch him while people lost billions, gotch ya
purple pick sheets is absolutely right on lincoln james, amac used other peoples money to have his own joy ride and many fell for it and have paid a heavy price financially that  they will never dig out of on that horse
while i believe those that say well you dont have to go along with him  etc that is only partly true, IF you decide to play than you do entrust the leader to make wise decisions on your behalf
it is very similar  to your stock broker/financial planner, once you decide to entrust your money with them you expect them to manage it in a professional responsible manner, if not you find another one or stuff your cash under your mattress
i will say this , purple pick sheets is not alone , there are some people who own a reasonably large number of shares that are not happy , are not doing well
the stable .ca needs a successful back half of 2019 or it will be much smaller in 2020
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 18, 2019, 09:58:57 AM
amongst all the banter going on the truth is somewhere in the middle
just to clarify
purple lavern, i see you say you and everybody knew madoff was running a scam, ok, he scammed everyone and it took the feds years to catch him while people lost billions, gotch ya
purple pick sheets is absolutely right on lincoln james, amac used other peoples money to have his own joy ride and many fell for it and have paid a heavy price financially that  they will never dig out of on that horse
while i believe those that say well you dont have to go along with him  etc that is only partly true, IF you decide to play than you do entrust the leader to make wise decisions on your behalf
it is very similar  to your stock broker/financial planner, once you decide to entrust your money with them you expect them to manage it in a professional responsible manner, if not you find another one or stuff your cash under your mattress
i will say this , purple pick sheets is not alone , there are some people who own a reasonably large number of shares that are not happy , are not doing well
the stable .ca needs a successful back half of 2019 or it will be much smaller in 2020

Brown Jugs aka robin quivers...
sorry my buffy took over...

I never said everyone knew Madoff was running a scam...My point was that there ARE actual horses..& that can 100% be verified..
These horses are all bought at auction (or private purchase) & sold at cost...That is very rare for any fractional operation- most put 50% of profit right into the buy price.
Now whether you felt Lincon James was worth $800 per share upon purchase is your own decision- for me it wasn't..

Is the Stable a perfect vehicle for ownership- absolutely not- & HAVE NEVER SAID THAT...
you can look at my posts over the months & this can all be verified...I am no cheerleader & certainly have my issues personally.

I was just calling out PSP & his BS...he windsocked 100% & you can even look at the start of the thread where he claims it to be an excellent endeavor
Have nothing against PSP but seemed to get butt hurt from some bad luck recently inclusing a horse dying.

Kind of done with this thread & wish everyone luck....  HEIL HITLER  (sorry again- Buffy took over)
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 18, 2019, 11:20:16 AM
yup
me as well
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 18, 2019, 01:13:52 PM
First off the FBI only caught Madoff because of the recession leading to the discovery when the markets tanked. Kinda like the owners in a last minute purchase of a older FFA horse that when AM called he got a list of a few horses that had a sales tag from the Burke barn. He listen to the seller's pitch of the ones for sale and took that information back to his clients. His clients over subscribe to the reasoning, bs, sales pitch, or whatever every trainer uses on a daily basis to his or her own owners. They knew they were going to get a one time shot in the race in PEI ...then the horse would go back to Mohawk in the overnights. It didn't pay off when the horse wasn't fast enough and drew the way outside. Clients knew there wasn't any 50 or 60k races left down the line with this horse. It was a boom or bust from the get go. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong? Wasn't 75% sold quickly to a small number of people and the last 25% went to 25 1% shares to people that live in PEI? My take PL already mentioned it, look at all the bust that come out of these sales for older racehorses. It's a who's who list of over priced horses changing barns and majority never get close to what they paid for them. As for the guy complaining about selling horse high and buying horses on the low...and not making money. Please more information because you already stated earlier you had a month of a win and 2 places or 2 wins and a place and still didn't make money for the month? More info needed to believe that story.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 01:41:05 PM
bea my delight.
i owned 25 percent
from the end of december to mid feb she had 2 first 2 seconds and a 3rd and a lost money all three months
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 01:47:13 PM
I also heard the owners of west fiftysecond lost money the month they finished second in a 35k stake...

again...
dont shoot the messagnger...

MUCH MUCH MUCH more fallout to come
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: eyeinthesky on May 18, 2019, 01:57:38 PM
I liked the name of one filly he had in the stable....Ivannka  or Ivanka.       Thought I heard she was  racing...or ready to race .  I was considering buying a small piece for my niece..as that is her name ..and I thought it would be fun to follow .   Can't seem to find her name anyplace.  Can anybody help  ?
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 18, 2019, 02:54:53 PM
Ikanka raced at Hawthorne last night
raced 5th I believe..
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Purple Lavern on May 18, 2019, 02:59:04 PM
I also heard the owners of west fiftysecond lost money the month they finished second in a 35k stake...

again...
dont shoot the messagnger...

MUCH MUCH MUCH more fallout to come

I will absolutely deal in facts..
& as an owner of west52 that is correct..
Horse raced 3 times & earned $5,000 usd - & 100% correct as a group the horse lost approx. $2,000 that month.

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: horses first on May 18, 2019, 04:00:14 PM
PSP I can't say after they leave the stable to other trainers and the cost. I suppose in a couple months I will see for myself. I did hear last year people complained about the high bills from when Harris trained them. That the vet bills where put of control. But all east coast trainers HAVE HIGH VET BILLS. It's unfortunate and one of the reasons I said enough. I have some broadmares and kept a baby or two. Bought pieces of a couple at the stable to give it a try. In the end it's the same for everyone.
.If you can't win the fun eventually goes away. It doesn't take smart people to figure out a scam. So on some level...yes the whole thing can go up in smoke.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 18, 2019, 04:02:11 PM
PSP I can't say after they leave the stable to other trainers and the cost. I suppose in a couple months I will see for myself. I did hear last year people complained about the high bills from when Harris trained them. That the vet bills where put of control. But all east coast trainers HAVE HIGH VET BILLS. It's unfortunate and one of the reasons I said enough. I have some broadmares and kept a baby or two. Bought pieces of a couple at the stable to give it a try. In the end it's the same for everyone.
.If you can't win the fun eventually goes away. It doesn't take smart people to figure out a scam. So on some level...yes the whole thing can go up in smoke.

its a hobby,,jimmy

 most guys think its a way to make money..

I guess they all have a dream,,most lose  money

Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: bruno123 on May 18, 2019, 05:12:56 PM
I joined the stable in February, enjoy all the videos and updates but one of my 3  horses is already done for his 2 year old season.  Doing yearlings  just for fun ,  hard to expect to make money with them. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: wiggles44 on May 18, 2019, 08:36:38 PM
I joined the stable in February, enjoy all the videos and updates but one of my 3  horses is already done for his 2 year old season.  Doing yearlings  just for fun ,  hard to expect to make money with them.

thestable thanks you for your "donation"
 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 18, 2019, 10:07:49 PM
I will absolutely deal in facts..
& as an owner of west52 that is correct..
Horse raced 3 times & earned $5,000 usd - & 100% correct as a group the horse lost approx. $2,000 that month.


ding ding ding
7k a month to train a horse????
x160 horses?
someone is getting rich
and its not the owners
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: JL52 on May 19, 2019, 09:05:11 AM
West 52 had stakes payments so one can't say the monthly training bill alone was that high.
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 19, 2019, 11:08:58 AM
West 52 had stakes payments so one can't say the monthly training bill alone was that high.
I never said training bills...
But it should be a 7k bill to race each month, even with stakes payments
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 19, 2019, 11:31:32 AM
nothing wrong with having an opinion
nothing wrong with being unhappy with how things went
but lets at least deal with facts
my assumption is most stake payments are made from feb-may inclusive
other than late closers and starting fees
so for a two year old they are made before he even races
you gotta pay to play
if you are lucky enough to get a decent stakes horse you have to pay to race

not  sure what month could possibly be $7k
regardless it is not possible that every month would be that high which is what you  are implying
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: LUCPARK on May 19, 2019, 11:34:34 AM
THERE IS NO STAKES PAYMENTS EVER INCLUDED IN ANY BILL I EVR HAD,,

MOST USE BLUEGRASS STAKIN SERVICE..
WHY WOOD A TRAINER INCLUDE STAKES PAYMENTS IN BILL IS BEYOND ME

BUT I GUESS IT HAPPENS

,,STAKES PAYMENTS ARE USUALLY ONLY,,FEB,MARCH AND APRIL AND MAY WITH A LITTLE
..7000 A MONTH WHO DOES ANYTHONY THINK HE IS

CASSIE COLEMAN ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

STOP IT,.U GUYS IM CRYING
Title: Re: THE STABLE CA..OPEN HOUSE INVITES DUBE
Post by: Brown jug on May 19, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
fake news
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