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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: bliss on February 05, 2019, 06:16:34 PM
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Where is he working now?
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Maine......the way life used to be.......in 1935
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he worked a number of the fairs last summer. great guy.
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It was nice to see him crawl out of the woods of rural Kennebec County briefly, to once again tour the Maine fairs. Unfortunately it may not happen again for another 20 years. This fall Steve O'Toole and Penn Gaming big-wigs approached Delisle about coming out of winter hibernation early in 2019 to work the Bangor meet starting in May. Frightened at the thought of working 5 months in a single year, The Hermit bolted once again for the Mercer woods with nothing but a bag of weed,a 12 pack and his fishing rod. Hasnt been spotted since.
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i wondered where my bag of green went. i would share anyhow. hard to believe though bangor wanting someone other than the 'allways a quick decision frank hall' as pj. maybe they could get the boys from the soon to be extinct scarborough. there is a boys school down the road from the casino. the live handle would go up. sawyer could run the race office professionally.
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You guys are nuts.That guy is an asshole with a capital A.Hopefully he disappears for another 20 yrs.The only way he'll be spotted is when he makes a beer run.Scab crew would be a good fit at bangor,the handle would definitely improve.
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Tilley youre awfully tough on The Country Bumpkin. Not an a-hole. Swiping a few spirits out of a camp or two doesnt make him a bad fella, just tryin' to survive the tough Maine wintah's. I think Delisle is considering the job actually. A small State Employee vehicle, with an elderly fella dressed all in blue, has been seen patroling the logging & camp roads around Rome and Belgrade. It's gotta be none other than Ralph Canney, hoping to stumble across his friend, and beg him to come save him. Canney wouldnt last a week working with the "Downs" castaways.
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i think dana would be great for bangor. maine really has a shortage of judges. maybe we can get roger smith back into a full season in the stand. if that lil old guy in a state car finds dana he would be lucky. and that lil old guy is a pretty good guy himself. been around forever, and its no easy job dealing with the backstrech of any track here in maine. good luck to both of them.
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Come on Mr Tilley Dana is A good P.J. As long as he remembers where he came from and does not go overboard.
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i think the days of any judge in maine going overboard are long gone. they all know the comission will overturn them. they call only the biggest violations. if there is any doubt they just go official. past few years danas only problem is slow quarter fines. i have never really liked the rule anyway. the other drivers let the leader slow the pace well any of them can pull the right line. scarborough crew, seems like weeks go bye without a fine. guess they got caught in a long line at the windows and missed the race. so maybe we can get shane bacon back. i remember him at farmington one year. found every possible infraction and some that didnt even exist. i also think a announcer from the past would be perfect. the voice llyod johnson. he allways acted like he wanted to be a judge.
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Funny you should mention Lucky Lloyd. Ralph Canney and his subordinates have leaned on the veteran announcer in all judges decisions for years. No State employee actions take place without Lloyd's approval.
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Canney and Delisle can't walk and chew gum at the same time! They have nothing to offer horse racing.Their only concern is have they got enough beer to last the evening.I was reading the results of the commission summit, the horsemens only concern is getting another handout from the cascade or sports betting. Who gives a fuck about the few fans left or the fairs that still host horse racing.The end is in sight they better wake the fuck up! I have never seen a bunch of people as blind and short sighted!Wake the fuck up people!Delisle has the right idea go fishing and drink beer, why waste his time trying to do something to make it better when the people involved can't take control of their own destiny!Canney's only reason for being is to suck up another paycheck.You can't help people who can't help themselves.Enough said I'm gonna go ride my snowmobile.
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Sounds like Delisle should keep fishing
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canney will get delisle to go to work 4-1 morning line says canney will succeed
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im sure dana will accept the honor of bangor pj. heck its only 40 days of races over several months. pleanty time to fish and drink. maybe work a fair or two. funny a comet was made about the fairs. the fairs are what keeps maine raceing. lots of horse get going in june and end at the burg. its a way of life. ingraham comes back from ppk. more race dates at fairs than bangor.
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Yogi your absolutely right.The fairs will be the last entity to still have harness racing, started there and will end there.Thats where people were exposed to racing.That is why horse people need to support the fairs both financially and by racing their horses there.
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what a joke. the best that the horsemen can do is to try to pass a law to get oxford to pay them more money or get a piece of sports gambling if that ever happens. no chance.
andn then theres the fact that there will be no scarborough next year.
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i agree to a point. the horsepeople need to do more to support all tracks and fairs. do more themselves. I also believe that harness racing should get more from oxford. years ago bangor got a racino and had to give a percentage to the industry. oxford pays a lot less a percentage. that is not right. it happened because of the ignorant ways the state allows these referendums to be written and then voted into law. I would go onto say that more money should go to the industry even from bangor. slot machines and casinos in maine and everywhere have sucked almost all the handle from horses and dogs in those states. racinos were supposed to help the industry. yes we get money from them but we also no longer have a handle to generate our own purses. just look back over the last 20 years. live handle in maine is what about 20 percent of what it was on a race by race basis. even the Fryeburg fair which draws many once a year fan is only half or so what it was. the lottery has hurt too. sportsbetting legally I don't think will change much. that money is already bet just not thru a taxable source. so yes the people directly involved in racing really need to help there own cause more is needed from the racinos. I also cannot understand one thing with oxford. the casino had to buy the oxford track but were allowed not to race. someone really needs to explain that one. I do know the reason but you have to own a track but get away not racing cant get that one.
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Right again yogi ! However do you think oxford is gonna give up one red cent ? Peter martin got the law written not to give the horsemen shit.Churchill has all kinds of $ to make sure they give up nothing.The barn door has been closed.I don't disagree they should have to pay the same as penn but those with the gold make the rules, been that way a long time!
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I know oxford will fight to not give a penny more or run a race at the fairgrounds. the whole way of getting things on a maine ballot sucks. all anyone needs to do is get signatures and have it written correctly then if the voters vote it in, its law. what I have wondered is will it fly if I want to put a casino at the statehouse. if it gets voted in will the lawmakers overrule it. its just another reason why maine racing is dead. done correctly racinos would have benifitted everyone. I knew from the start we were doomed. how was bangor and now oxford a racino when they are not actually together. track here the casino down the road. my thought is the casino should be at the track. when it wasn't I knew we were doomed in maine. we can go back to the people involved in the industry. how come it was allowed to be this way. it all came down to getting a little bit extra without doing anything. all involved should have suppored the no vote until someone had a proposal that really helped the industry. the way it is, its just a small welfare check that has unfortunately hurt the racing industry. its hurt the people that were fans too. even into the late 90's there was enough handle to make you want to bet.
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When will the 2019 race dates be released???
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They’ve been out for over a month.
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Anyone have a link to the dates? Theres nothing on meharness still...
Thanks
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I googled 2019 Maine harness racing dates and it took me to Maine.gov.
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If the bill in the legislature passes,LD715 a bill to take the slot $ away, there won't be anything left to argue about.Knew this bill would come one day, now we will see how people respond to it
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so true if the bill passes racing is done. so far i dont hear the bandwagons heading to augusta to protest. of course the few stables with horses and owners are racing out of state for the winter. lets see what happens. it would be sad to lose racing in the state. i have the good memories of my youth of full grandstands and being able to make money.
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since 2005 the state has given $125 million from the casinos to the harness racing industry. a lot of people in augusta arent happy about it.
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augusta lawmakers would love that money but it was a peoples vote that gave it to the industry. some money has been wasted such as bangor and scarborough getting money just to run aside from the purse money. it created no incentive for the tracks to try to better themself ie. WELFARE. hopefully the purse money keeps coming but maybe its time to wake up the tracks to better themself. bangor downstairs is nice enough but outside and grandstand are just pigion poop. fairs could run better. maybe the race directors dont get a paycheck untill the tracks handle rises. create a reason other than welfare for them to try.
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If the horsemen can kill this bill it'll be a good wakeup call for all involved.Kind of ironic I went off on my rant a couple days ago and this happens.All the sponsors of the bill are dems so we'll see where Mills sits on harness racing.
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Is this because the horse people are mostly LePage people. On welfare and dont know it.
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hope we do kill this bill and wake up. our industry has been on welfare from the day bangor got machines. too many people have had the lets get thru today attitude. the whole states horsepeople need to decide to get with the long term thinking. it wont help if too many people live here but race out of state. yes purses are better but they still need to support maine. race some here more often and help find a way to turn things around. support the enrtry box is the simplest way. looking at a card of 5 horse fields just wont get the people out to the track. bring your owners out more often. talk to the public a bit. every time a driver hands a whip to a kid there are smiles and good words among the public. when the lawmakers see no one at the races it makes it too easy to vote to take the welfare check away.
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Bingo again Yogi!Hit the nail on the head again!We probably Know each other from back in the heydays of racing.Back when Freeman and Donnie and Fitchie were the kings.
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Did you all know what the town of Oxfords cut was for last year 1.9 million
what was the horsemans cut-- 000
the issue was the law
and the country hicks running oxford knew almost nothing about racing
and they were know it alls.Here the track sets empty no racing no nothing
thank you to the know nothing and they know who they are-heres a clue
their name is the opposite of OLD
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i have been around new england racing a long time. its sad how it changed here and everywhere. the casinos just put the nail in the coffin. started years ago with the lottery. to me the casinos sucked the money that used to be bet at the tracks. all par-mutuels have gone downhill dogs jai-lai. the money from the casinos boosted purses for the short term but also with it came a change in racing. used to be if you payed attention to details, watched replays you had a good idea of whats going on. with the jump in purses came a lot more vet related work. a lot more form reversals. that helped push fans out the door too. i personally dont see the thrill in casinos, not my thing but i would not trust anything there. the short attention span of most americans do love the casinos though. i wish all racing could be turned around or at least stablized. i am just not sure it will happen but i remain hopefull. i do believe as i stated before that oxford should be paying at least the same to the industry as bangor. i also think that they should be held to running at least a week fair meet at the fairgrounds, maybe even a short meet. i also think that the commission should help with this. they can work with the gambling commission.