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Title: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Lebanon Levi on December 10, 2018, 07:52:32 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Meadows King on December 10, 2018, 08:09:50 PM
Ex not a bad payoff 2 Nd and 3 rd choice.  Tri not bad either.   Super little short but only 8 k in pool.  I wouldn’t call this by any means short just I seen owner play 20 supers so I can see a low pay off   
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Inside The Pylons on December 10, 2018, 08:19:34 PM
Yep that exacta was short
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: PIGLAND on December 10, 2018, 08:46:47 PM
very short
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: MeadowMacho on December 10, 2018, 08:50:44 PM
Its gotta stop!
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: HornbyDuke on December 10, 2018, 09:01:21 PM
@ 1/2 of what it should be
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Meadows King on December 10, 2018, 09:21:54 PM
9.20. Times 3.40  equals ex.  And it’s close to right on the numbers     Everyone cries and think something fixed if the loss
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Lebanon Levi on December 10, 2018, 09:30:34 PM
9.20. Times 3.40  equals ex.  And it’s close to right on the numbers     Everyone cries and think something fixed if the loss
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Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: dinkadoo on December 10, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
9.20. Times 3.40  equals ex.  And it’s close to right on the numbers     Everyone cries and think something fixed if the loss
Short -- really


7-2  3rd choice that HAS THE RAIL

2-1  2nd choice from the 5 hole


$32 is short ? A rail horse being played that has has Page/Adam Short connections......


Seems like the right payoff.
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on December 10, 2018, 10:02:21 PM
payoff is fine
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: buffalo believer on December 10, 2018, 10:07:03 PM
Now the 11th is really short.   $24 winner brings in a $2exacta worth $25.  That's as short as it gets.
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: HornbyDuke on December 10, 2018, 10:16:28 PM
 tmbz1 My bad - I just quickly glanced at my platform and didn't realize the payoff of @$16 was for a $1. I thought the payoff should be  @ $30 so I agree. Just my negligance.
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: HornbyDuke on December 10, 2018, 11:22:51 PM
Now the 11th is really short.   $24 winner brings in a $2exacta worth $25.  That's as short as it gets

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This one I'll give you. I'd have expected @ $50 for a deuce. At these smaller tracks though it's easy for one bettor to eschew the payoffs. If somebody bets a $30 or $40 straight exacta   it can throw these off. And with real small pools - say buffalo, Vernon, saratoga a $10 straight exacta can put a hurt on the payoffs.

Funny I never hear anyone complain when the payoff is high.

I also agree with Meadowlands Kings comments regarding race fixing being exaggerated. My opinion is it goes on and is more likely  at smaller tracks with lower purses. But as someone who's spent way too many hours in otbs - I agree some of the complaining is just bitter gamblers. Juicing on the other hand imo is rampant.
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Indian24 on December 11, 2018, 12:17:40 AM
How Bout the 12th ex? 8.40 winner 13-1 second 15.00 to place and it pays 63.20 for $2
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: HornbyDuke on December 11, 2018, 12:28:21 AM
I'm not sure how others calculate these in their heads. I do it more off experience. I've been given over the yrs a few formulas and why they occasionally worked they really didn't seem reliable to me. So I canned them.

The 12th exacta seems a little on the low end of where I would estimate. It is a Ronnie Wrenn horse on top that though. If I had that exacta for $2 I'd have thought I would get $75. But the payoff doesn't seem way out of whack to me. Just my opinion. I've listened to a lot of folks dispute these over the yrs and imo people usually project the high end of where the payout will be. Just an opinion though- I know people have strong feelings on payouts and I respect that.
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Calhoun on December 11, 2018, 09:58:02 AM
Now the 11th is really short.   $24 winner brings in a $2exacta worth $25.  That's as short as it gets.
Really?

Ever stop to think the Ex is correct and the wrong price is in the win pool?

What makes you believe the win pool odds are sacred??
Title: Re: NFLD RACE 4 EXACTA COMES BACK SHORT
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 11, 2018, 10:49:40 AM
ACTUALLY, THE EXACTA CAME BACK  SHORT,SHORT
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