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Title: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: mass hole on April 24, 2018, 09:39:13 AM
It just disgust me that this group who is making record profits are now screwing the local horseman who supported this failing industry for the past 20 years by charging small time owners/trainers stall rent.......so a guy with a 6 horse stable is now costing him $1500.00 more a month.The mantality of this group is from what I understand is the local horseman voted against giving out $300 to 350 k of local monies to bring in the Ron burke's and jimmy tatker for one race in july ....so in retaliation this is how managment is sticking it to these guys.......which is plain wrong and they have a contract in place to provide barn area.....I enjoy the sport but difference between harness and tbreds is tbreds welcome you....no barn rent and no paddock cost no shipping......so much less to operate.......Pla inridge and Penn gaming could care less about horseman and would kill it if they could as we all know......protect the locals and the $$$$ earned put back in those pockets......I agree 100% with horseman voting this out....
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: silent one on April 24, 2018, 10:52:46 AM
 If the whoresmen don't like it, they are free to race somewhere else. The whoresmen are receiving welfare. Not one cent should be given to whoresmen, when teachers, firefighters, and police are needed. If the business can't stand on it's own, time to let it die. By the way, what were the purses at Plainridge BEFORE the welfare? Typical that whoresmen would bitch about paying for a service, when they are receiving welfare.

     Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: The Exporter on April 24, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
Less than $300 a month is reasonable rent for a stall as well as the training track, water...
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: LockedOnALine on April 24, 2018, 02:06:38 PM
   How many stalls do they have??? A dozen?? ;D
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: mass hole on April 24, 2018, 02:45:51 PM
The only way for this business to survive is we come together as a unit and have a voice as what is going on will kill this industry ....no unity and no direction will not be good....if you guys don't see that it is crazy
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: okdfool on April 24, 2018, 03:01:46 PM
I think everyonecharges stall rent now, if you board outside any race track, it is much more expensive per stall...
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: mass hole on April 24, 2018, 03:07:53 PM
A harness thing basically
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: okdfool on April 24, 2018, 04:59:38 PM
A harness thing basically

I mean most harness tracks...i dont know about T-bred tracks
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: PIGLAND on April 24, 2018, 05:17:34 PM
once they get a taste of free , these welfare people want everything free
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: The Exporter on April 24, 2018, 06:08:26 PM
A harness thing basically

 Free board and use of facilities is long gone. There may be a track or two that does not charge a direct fee but, nothing in this world is free.
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: LockedOnALine on April 24, 2018, 09:46:23 PM
Free board and use of facilities is long gone. There may be a track or two that does not charge a direct fee but, nothing in this world is free.

 Please don't tell that to the illegals and the snowflakes, unless you can run REAL fast!!! tmbz1
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: BIG DOM on April 24, 2018, 11:29:20 PM
If the whoresmen don't like it, they are free to race somewhere else. The whoresmen are receiving welfare. Not one cent should be given to whoresmen, when teachers, firefighters, and police are needed. If the business can't stand on it's own, time to let it die. By the way, what were the purses at Plainridge BEFORE the welfare? Typical that whoresmen would bitch about paying for a service, when they are receiving welfare.


PENN GAMING was OUT in the fight for Taxachussetts one and only slot parlor... Plainridge horsemen were also OUT due to Gary Piotowski's embezzlement.  Therefore Penn & Plainridge saved each other. One partner in that marriage is making $MILLIONS, the other partner is battling to stay afloat (and should feel damned lucky to still be in the marriage).  Whoever said love was fair?
     Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: Horsepower on April 25, 2018, 06:25:27 AM
Look what free did to the Meadowlands and FREEhold. Both now eliminated the backstretch and went totally ship in. It costs money to maintain a track, provide water and electricity, remove trash and manure, pay help, purchase equipment, etc.
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: sulkyfan on April 25, 2018, 06:48:03 AM
Please don't tell that to the illegals and the snowflakes, unless you can run REAL fast!!! tmbz1
Amen!  tmbz1
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: Impartial Observer on April 25, 2018, 04:43:20 PM
Look what free did to the Meadowlands and FREEhold. Both now eliminated the backstretch and went totally ship in. It costs money to maintain a track, provide water and electricity, remove trash and manure, pay help, purchase equipment, etc.

AGREE
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: mass hole on April 25, 2018, 05:55:14 PM
Then why is thoroughbred tracks have free barns and stalls.....becaus e owners run the show....without owners you have nothing.........w e are the straw that stirs the drink.......the costs in harness racing are ridiculous and the only one's making money are top drivers and trainers .....as far as owning I would say 80 to 85 % are in the RED....
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: silent one on April 25, 2018, 10:54:01 PM
 Then get the hell out. Typical whoresmen, receives welfare and whines like a bitch if they have to actually PAY for a service. Has it ever occurred to the whoresmen why NOBODY GIVES A DAMN about your bitching. Most of the whoresmen should be living in a cardboard box. "without owners you have nothing"??? Are you F'ing serious? The tracks, and the AMERICAN PEOPLE couldn't care less about the God Damn owners! You get welfare and then you bitch??? You ungrateful son of a bitch.

     Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: bond on April 26, 2018, 09:05:08 AM
Then get the hell out. Typical whoresmen, receives welfare and whines like a bitch if they have to actually PAY for a service. Has it ever occurred to the whoresmen why NOBODY GIVES A DAMN about your bitching. Most of the whoresmen should be living in a cardboard box. "without owners you have nothing"??? Are you F'ing serious? The tracks, and the AMERICAN PEOPLE couldn't care less about the God Damn owners! You get welfare and then you bitch??? You ungrateful son of a bitch.

     Sincerely, Silent One

For someone with your avatar-you certainly do a lot of complaining yourself.

Why are you on this forum?--shouldn't your talents be better appreciated on some other hate forum.? Directed elsewhere?

All you do is criticize-you obviously hate the game and the people in it.

There have/are many generous wonderful horsemen around-there are bad apples in every sport-so nothing new.

You are the first to complain about bitching--but thats all you do--whine like a little bitch.


 

Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: mass hole on April 26, 2018, 08:11:08 PM
Bond makes good points as I am just stating facts based on the economics of the game......It cost much less like 80% less to run a harness meet because you dont have excessive labor costs ...over tbreds ...the problem is nobody is on same page and there is no unity which will be the demise of the sport if it continues
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: The Exporter on April 27, 2018, 07:06:05 AM
As the Senator from your neighboring state of Vermont once said, "all politics are local". Every track and the horsemen at that track are only focused on their needs. As they should. This dream of a united racing comunity is a fool's dream. Never did it happen when the industry was large enough to benefit from that type of structure. Now, with no leader and all underperforming and disinterested track owners as well as state governments, it will never happen.
 Horsemen and owners are always claiming how they are the power of this sport. Without owners, there is no business... Horsemen, the same. Truth is, without a solid political commitment and a state that recognizes the public benefit of horseracing, you will have nothing more than expensive 1,000 pound pets.
 
 Have you seen the news about dog racing in Florida? A state vote to ban dog racing will now be on the November ballot. Dog racing was once the draw and core many Florida cities. It drew the Snowbirds every winter and made significant contributions to state and local government's coffers.  Now, with no political backing and less government support, dog racing will more than likely be history in The Sunshine State.
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: steve g on April 27, 2018, 09:13:57 AM
Why should the stalls and the use of everything be free ?  They got all of that free for years , now the purses are better so there should be no complaining about stall rent . Go see if Mark Ford will let you board af his facility for free , and  use the track , and use the water .
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: bond on April 27, 2018, 09:28:11 AM
"Truth is, without a solid political commitment and a state that recognizes the public benefit of horseracing, you will have nothing more than expensive 1,000 pound pets."

  tmbz1 Very true--however the politics in horse racing have largely forgotten the real supporter of horse racing-the gambler.

The State and the Racino owners now all benefit much more from the casino than they do from racing-and have placed the infrastructure so that racing has become a gapped out second.

Administrators and Judges are not held to highest standards to protect the betting public and owners not forced to
keep racing at a level where it at least is attractive to bettors. The opposite is happening--most efforts by the politicians and owners of Casinos-is to eliminate/reduce racing and  concentrate on fleecing Casino patrons.

Ive said it many times--just look at Hong Kong and Down Under models--to see how horse racing should be run profitably--the powers that be here just find it much easier to switch on the electricity and rip off mostly retirees and welfare recipients of their monies.
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: quitpullinmychain on April 27, 2018, 03:59:28 PM
Then why is thoroughbred tracks have free barns and stalls.....becaus e owners run the show....without owners you have nothing.........w e are the straw that stirs the drink.......the costs in harness racing are ridiculous and the only one's making money are top drivers and trainers .....as far as owning I would say 80 to 85 % are in the RED....
Nothing should be free.That being said,I use to think that to make money you shouldn't own anything cheaper than a 10 claimer.Maybe if your doing the training yourself.Now looks like you need a 30.
Title: Re: Plainridge now charging stall rent
Post by: The Exporter on April 27, 2018, 05:22:38 PM
..."however the politics in horse racing have largely forgotten the real supporter of horse racing-the gambler." I see your point, Bond but, have they really forgotten the gambler? In most cases, the take-out is lower than it was in racings productive days. I don't think the state gives a hoot or two how the revenue is generated, as long as it keeps flowing. So, technology makes other forms of gaming much more productive and popular. Horse racing would still get the backing from the state if it produced a solid return.
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