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Title: Best of all Time... IT'S NOT UP FOR DEBATE
Post by: LUCPARK on March 30, 2018, 10:31:18 PM
Ron gurfein

The guru.

Love reading hiz columns in harness world..
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Post by: MR.DALRAE on March 30, 2018, 11:55:33 PM
TOTAL JAGOFF
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Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on March 31, 2018, 12:36:12 AM
TOTAL JAGOFF

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Top 500 Heeb Trainers:

1.  Jerry Silverman

99.  Ron Gurfein

500.  Paul Blumenfield
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Post by: Fatboy on March 31, 2018, 04:57:37 AM
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Top 500 Heeb Trainers:

1.  Jerry Silverman

99.  Ron Gurfein

500.  Paul Blumenfield

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Title: Re: Best of all Time... IT'S NOT UP FOR DEBATE
Post by: TTitans1 on March 31, 2018, 06:26:25 AM
He sucks!
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Post by: Bernie Madoff on March 31, 2018, 06:29:32 AM
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Top 500 Heeb Trainers:

1.  Jerry Silverman

99.  Ron Gurfein

500.  Paul Blumenfield













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Title: Re: Best of all Time... IT'S NOT UP FOR DEBATE
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on March 31, 2018, 08:59:20 AM
UPDATED LIST

TOP 500 HEEB TRAINERS OF ALL TIME:

1.  Bobby Frankel

2.  Ben Hur

3.  Babe Dutrow

4.  Jerry Silverman

101.  Ron Gurfein

500.  Paul Blumenfield
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Post by: Uncle Harry on March 31, 2018, 09:12:26 AM
 
RONNIE BURKOWICZ

AKE SVANSTEIN

JULIE MILLHEIMER
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Post by: Sam R on March 31, 2018, 10:16:50 AM
Hirsch Jacobs
Bobby Frankel
Buddy Jacobson
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Post by: slivercharm on March 31, 2018, 10:46:36 AM
Ira schmolin

Dan nancestein
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Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on March 31, 2018, 01:04:46 PM
Nicole Bava
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Post by: slivercharm on March 31, 2018, 04:29:09 PM
Nicole Bava

Best  11.bz agreed she can lick the balls while deep throating very rare talent
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Post by: Shadow Wave on April 01, 2018, 03:02:55 PM
What about Rickey Kurtz?   ;D
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Post by: oh canada on April 01, 2018, 03:20:41 PM
Jerry Silverman tops them all.......A fucking legend through and through.......was a pleasure to get to know the FOX !!!
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Post by: kantseeback on April 01, 2018, 03:47:02 PM
No mention of Stanley Dancer?
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Post by: cracker on April 01, 2018, 06:09:07 PM
Roger Stein
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Post by: TW on April 01, 2018, 06:51:40 PM
Walter Case Jr.
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Post by: Sam R on April 01, 2018, 08:04:51 PM
What about Rickey Kurtz?   ;D
He came from a hasidic family but wasn't a great trainer. He was a great character.
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Post by: Shadow Wave on April 01, 2018, 09:13:41 PM
He came from a hasidic family but wasn't a great trainer. He was a great character.

Sam, didn't I have a conversation a long, long time ago with you about Danny Marks, a real character?
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Post by: hoosierboy on April 01, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
Brett pelling
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Post by: Sam R on April 02, 2018, 10:08:26 AM
Sam, didn't I have a conversation a long, long time ago with you about Danny Marks, a real character?
Yes, I knew Danny. Saw him a couple of days before he died and attended his funeral.
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Post by: the master on April 02, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
A lot of great promoters have been mentioned but the best trainers I have ever seen were not high profile guys!
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Post by: the master on April 02, 2018, 10:31:16 AM
Ron gurfein

The guru.

Love reading hiz columns in harness world..
       Not even in the conversation!
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Post by: wise owl on April 02, 2018, 12:40:24 PM
Ron Gurfein is a piece of trash never paid me foe shipping his horses he told me Harry told me to ship them not him he said go see Harry has no respect for anyone but him self.
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Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on April 02, 2018, 01:03:18 PM
Pat Crowe
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Post by: LUCPARK on April 02, 2018, 02:14:07 PM
Ron Gurfein is a piece of trash never paid me foe shipping his horses he told me Harry told me to ship them not him he said go see Harry has no respect for anyone but him self.

Harry was an awesome guy.

Met him when Ronnie trained forme in. 2011.
He threw a great barbecue
Nice guy. Really a good fellow
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Post by: Shadow Wave on April 02, 2018, 02:49:42 PM
Yes, I knew Danny. Saw him a couple of days before he died and attended his funeral.

The ultimate Tout and Carnival Barker but basically a nice guy.
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Post by: Emperor Dapple on April 02, 2018, 09:25:57 PM
Hirsch Jacobs
Bobby Frankel
Buddy Jacobson

Sam,
Did you know Barry Franklin ? He may not have been the greatest conditioner of horses but he was one of the best gamblers in the 70's at Monticello and Yonkers\Roosevelt in early 80's..he's still a successful owner ..40 plus years in this business and still kicking.
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Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on April 03, 2018, 09:29:45 AM

Marty Adler........


.......could do it all.  and they don't get more heeb than that.   ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Sam R on April 03, 2018, 09:56:18 AM
Sam,
Did you know Barry Franklin ? He may not have been the greatest conditioner of horses but he was one of the best gamblers in the 70's at Monticello and Yonkers\Roosevelt in early 80's..he's still a successful owner ..40 plus years in this business and still kicking.
Not personally. He used to have Forte and Joe Ricco until they were barred from being in triple races. Later he used Marohn, Dokey and Sonny Patterson to do business.
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Post by: Shadow Wave on April 11, 2018, 08:19:44 PM
Not personally. He used to have Forte and Joe Ricco until they were barred from being in triple races. Later he used Marohn, Dokey and Sonny Patterson to do business.

You had to be at Yonkers and Roosevelt at the same time as me.  I used Poppy, Cobb, and Al Winger for the price.  I also wrote a book about the Moonstone Bay race and Charlie DeMore, however, it and the rights were bought out never to be published. I'm sure you remember Harvey Weiser, the Cantors, Royal Count N, and Allan and Michael.
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Post by: Sam R on April 12, 2018, 08:17:03 AM
You had to be at Yonkers and Roosevelt at the same time as me.  I used Poppy, Cobb, and Al Winger for the price.  I also wrote a book about the Moonstone Bay race and Charlie DeMore, however, it and the rights were bought out never to be published. I'm sure you remember Harvey Weiser, the Cantors, Royal Count N, and Allan and Michael.
Remember all of them. Weiser was a teller at NYC OTB till it closed. I don't remember the details of the Moonstone Bay race?
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Post by: baberuth1927 on April 13, 2018, 01:08:12 AM
Frank Ervin trotters or pacers he was one of the best.
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Post by: Shadow Wave on April 13, 2018, 03:33:15 PM
Frank Ervin trotters or pacers he was one of the best.

As a driver, the cross that Bret had to bear.
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