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Title: Lazarus N
Post by: TimTimTimbo on February 17, 2018, 12:27:26 PM
Trainer Mark Purdon says he is relieved he has a week to turn champion pacer Lazarus around after he only battled his way into next week's Miracle Mile by finishing third at Menangle on Saturday night.

The Kiwi pacing hero raced well below his best when beaten by TIger Tara and My Field Marshall in his A$100,000 qualifying race, having to be brave to even secure that spot after looking under severe pressure at the 400m mark.

By finishing third Lazarus did enough to secure an invite to next Saturday's $750,000 great race but Purdon knows the five-year-old superstar will need to improve.

"He raced below his best obviously after contracting a bit of a bug that some of the team has had," said Purdon.

"I didn't think it would bother him and his blood report had been good.

"And we even had a vet scope him this morning (Saturday) and said he was fine to race.
"We told the stewards all about this and I still thought he would win but once he got crossed at the start and had to work hard it showed he wasn't at his best."

Purdon said the type of bug which must have been lingering in Lazarus's system tends to clear up quickly and he is hopeful he can have him back to his peak for next Saturday.


"But it knocks your confidence. I will know a lot more on Wednesday or Thursday." My Field Marshal gives New Zealand two pacers in the eight-strong field but with Lazarus best known for his epic wins over longer distances, he rivals will feel it is game on for next Saturday night.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: TimTimTimbo on February 18, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/racing/outside-draw-for-lazarus-as-he-chases-history-in-the-miracle-mile-20180218-h0w9oa.html

Lazarus draws 10 hole in mile

Gonna be real tough to win from there especially the way he ran poorly a few days ago

In fact, he will have to create history on two fronts, with no horse having won a Miracle Mile from the outside draw since it moved to Menangle in 2009.


Lazarus wasn't the horse that has delivered performances which have had him compared to the greats of the sport on Saturday night as he struggled into third behind Tiger Tara in the Canadian Club Sprint in a relative slow time of 1.51.5.

The five-year-old had to depend on an invitation into the Miracle Mile but questions remain over his fitness after trainer-driver Mark Purdon admitted he had a blood complaint last week.

"I thought he was over it but the way the race panned out and him having to race parked, after being crossed, it affected him," Purdon said.
"So we have a week to get him right and I am just glad he gets into the Mile."

Lazarus will probably have to go back from his draw with Anything For Love, the all-the-way winner of Saturday's Allied Express Transport Sprint in 1.48.7, the likely leader from gate two.

WA Pacing Cup winner Soho Tribeca is likely again to sit outside Anything For Love from gate six as he did on Saturday when beaten a nose, and his trainer Michael Stanley said he "won't be giving up" his spot when Lazarus comes mid-race.

"Position is very important over the mile at Menangle and we have an advantage over Lazarus, which we won't be giving up," Stanley said.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 27, 2018, 11:14:50 PM
What a way to show exactly what terrible management can do to a great horse.  Wow.  Horrific.  And to those idiots like Hammer Head and Lice Man who think Yimmy can train a down under better than Croghan, you're fucking retarded.

Who would breed to this rat now?  The Yimmy and Yanny show really did a job on this rat.  If I was Taylor Made, he'd be on the first plane back  to Purdon.  Until next time, sweeties......... ...........HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: LUCPARK on October 27, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
MCWICKED BEST HORSE ON THE PLANET..

NOTHIN ELSE TO TALK ABOUT AT THIS MOMENT
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 27, 2018, 11:28:27 PM
MCWICKED BEST HORSE ON THE PLANET..

NOTHIN ELSE TO TALK ABOUT AT THIS MOMENT

yo, yo, Sky Low Low,

When they put Lazarbust on the plane to come over here, you could've got great odds on that McWicked bet.  No "Wonder From Down Under" gets beat by anyone 50 lengths.  Only the Yimmy and Yanny Show could do that.  So, calm down with your Casie-love and put bigger wedges in your shoes.  Until next time, darlings......... ............HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: hammer0419 on October 27, 2018, 11:31:22 PM
BUFFY YOU FUCKING RETARDED PUSS OOZING CUNT. ONLY A DOUCHE BAG LIKE YOU WOULD MAKE THE  POST ABOUT CROGAN.

WHAT DID YOU SUCK HIS COCK BACK IN THE DAY. CROGAN DIDN'T WIN THAT RACE,FUCK FACE CASIE DID.

THE ONLY ONE EXPOSED WAS YANNY. AS BAD A JOB OF DRIVING A HORSE AS A BEGINNING "P" DRIVER.

AGREED LAZARBUST HAS A HEART THE SIZE OF A CHICK PEA
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 27, 2018, 11:44:45 PM
Kelvin Harrison must be breathing easier now that Yimmy has taken over the infamous title of doing the worst training job ever of a Wonder From Down Under.  Even retards like Hammer Head and Lice Man could see that it was the horrific management that turned Lazarbust into a stopping rat.  Well done, Yimmy and Yanny.  Until next time, laddies.......... ...HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: buffalo believer on October 27, 2018, 11:47:27 PM
BUFFY YOU FUCKING RETARDED PUSS OOZING CUNT. ONLY A DOUCHE BAG LIKE YOU WOULD MAKE THE  POST ABOUT CROGAN.

WHAT DID YOU SUCK HIS COCK BACK IN THE DAY. CROGAN DIDN'T WIN THAT RACE,FUCK FACE CASIE DID.

THE ONLY ONE EXPOSED WAS YANNY. AS BAD A JOB OF DRIVING A HORSE AS A BEGINNING "P" DRIVER.

AGREED LAZARBUST HAS A HEART THE SIZE OF A CHICK PEA
Pea hearted is an understatement.  Let's see if they use the reliable excuse of "he scoped sick".  It would be so refreshing to hear words of honesty out of Takter saying Lazarbust is not as good as we thought he would be. 
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 28, 2018, 12:09:10 AM
Pea hearted is an understatement.  Let's see if they use the reliable excuse of "he scoped sick".  It would be so refreshing to hear words of honesty out of Takter saying Lazarbust is not as good as we thought he would be.

Whilst Mcwicked is clearly the better horse. no horse stops like that unless something went wrong. Not making overall excuses because he has not been good enough but he stopped like a 4,000 dollar claimer.  He has won on wet tracks so that is not an excuse.

At least us Kiwi's know how to bet the shit out of College and NFL. Off to collect and play a 7 team NFL parlay

Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: augustaandy on October 28, 2018, 12:16:13 AM
he lost 4 times last year and last I heard, there were no world beaters down there

he also lost to legendary Nirvana Seelster here
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: CaliRacer on October 28, 2018, 05:34:36 AM
Whilst Mcwicked is clearly the better horse. no horse stops like that unless something went wrong. Not making overall excuses because he has not been good enough but he stopped like a 4,000 dollar claimer.  He has won on wet tracks so that is not an excuse.

At least us Kiwi's know how to bet the shit out of College and NFL. Off to collect and play a 7 team NFL parlay

is it possible that Yannick choked him down with that walk of a 29.1 2nd quarter? As great as YG is, he doesn’t drive this horse well. Put Sears, Tetrick or D Miller on him and results will be different
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 28, 2018, 08:13:54 AM
is it possible that Yannick choked him down with that walk of a 29.1 2nd quarter? As great as YG is, he doesn’t drive this horse well. Put Sears, Tetrick or D Miller on him and results will be different

yo, yo, Vickie Desomer,

Don't hurt yourself.  Look at what happened.  Every race he got worse.  His qualifier looked promising and was his best effort.  Then he won at Hoosier but didn't move up.  Then he ran into Casie but was close.  Then Casie started hammering him.  And it all ended with this meltdown at Pocono.  That, ladies and gentlemen, is the training.  Nothing to do with the horse.  If he went back to Purdon he would win right away.  The Yimmy and Yanny Show did a real number on this rat.  Until next time, darlings......... ...........HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Calhoun on October 28, 2018, 08:43:49 AM
Whilst Mcwicked is clearly the better horse. no horse stops like that unless something went wrong. Not making overall excuses because he has not been good enough but he stopped like a 4,000 dollar claimer.  He has won on wet tracks so that is not an excuse.

At least us Kiwi's know how to bet the shit out of College and NFL. Off to collect and play a 7 team NFL parlay
I'm waiting for your apology.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 28, 2018, 10:45:12 AM
Obviously Buffy has a problem with many here but if you ask me this horse has been polluted with every drug in the tack trunk. The horse was a fake down under and they knew it was coming to an end and then with Takter it blew up and ended. If this is not a red flag about drug use I don't know what is.

Ah, yes.  The infamous "alternative facts."  Only complete assholes like Hammer Head and Lice Man would stoop that low just to get some attention on this worthless forum.   A horse doesnt make that much money and race for that long without having innate quality.   The answer is clear:  Yimmy sucks.  Yanny sucks.  And the retard Hitler Youth suck.  Until next time, laddies.......... ....HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Jctoronto on October 28, 2018, 11:17:52 AM
forget all the snipng..

did anyone really expect lazerurs to end up in top 2 coming off vet scratch sick line..

mcwicked and other of 5 horses had better chance to hit the exacta then that one last night.

Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: bond on October 28, 2018, 12:35:34 PM
Lazarus was obviously lame last night. Was walking on eggshells. Sick and sorry horse. I saw Lazarus in Kentucky where he was driven like an idiot and still paced in 46.3 never seeing the fence and 4 wide in the stretch. That was the real horse. Takter was the wrong trainer for this horse and Yannick couldn’t shine shoes of some of the former great drivers. He is the most over rated driver I’ve ever witnessed.
All up I wish Takter a happy retirement- none too soon- and wish Lazarus a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing his foals
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Bernie Madoff on October 28, 2018, 01:43:22 PM
Lazarus was obviously lame last night. Was walking on eggshells. Sick and sorry horse. I saw Lazarus in Kentucky where he was driven like an idiot and still paced in 46.3 never seeing the fence and 4 wide in the stretch. That was the real horse. Takter was the wrong trainer for this horse and Yannick couldn’t shine shoes of some of the former great drivers. He is the most over rated driver I’ve ever witnessed.
All up I wish Takter a happy retirement- none too soon- and wish Lazarus a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing his foals







 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 28, 2018, 03:06:14 PM
Lazarus was obviously lame last night. Was walking on eggshells. Sick and sorry horse. I saw Lazarus in Kentucky where he was driven like an idiot and still paced in 46.3 never seeing the fence and 4 wide in the stretch. That was the real horse. Takter was the wrong trainer for this horse and Yannick couldn’t shine shoes of some of the former great drivers. He is the most over rated driver I’ve ever witnessed.
All up I wish Takter a happy retirement- none too soon- and wish Lazarus a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing his foals

Foals?  Did you say foals?  Who's going to breed to this rat? Even complete asswipe clowns like Hammer Head or Lice Man know he's in trouble.  There are 15 American stallions who offer much better value.  The only question is will Lazarbust foals be Michigan breds or California breds?  He gets buried in the major breeding states.  Won't even do in Indiana, IMHO.   Until next time, sweeties......... .HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: CaliRacer on October 28, 2018, 03:32:37 PM
Lazarus was obviously lame last night. Was walking on eggshells. Sick and sorry horse. I saw Lazarus in Kentucky where he was driven like an idiot and still paced in 46.3 never seeing the fence and 4 wide in the stretch. That was the real horse. Takter was the wrong trainer for this horse and Yannick couldn’t shine shoes of some of the former great drivers. He is the most over rated driver I’ve ever witnessed.
All up I wish Takter a happy retirement- none too soon- and wish Lazarus a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing his foals

I agree. Gingras driving this horse terrible!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: augustaandy on October 28, 2018, 03:56:29 PM
I agree. Gingras driving this horse terrible!


what did Yannick do wrong last night?

at some point you realize it's the horse
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Uncle Harry on October 28, 2018, 04:38:59 PM
YANNUCK INSISTS ON DRIVING THE HORSE AMERICAN STYLE. EVEN A BLIND MAN CAN SEE THE HORSE IS A GRIND IT OUT KIND OF STEED

BUY YANNUCKS EGO KEEPS GETTING IN THE WAY
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Equus Caballus on October 28, 2018, 09:13:11 PM
and wins the 8th at pocono tonight with special k in the bike
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: dinkadoo on October 28, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
and wins the 8th at pocono tonight with special k in the bike
wire to wire winner as the slight favorite  ngc3
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Superfecta on October 28, 2018, 10:04:04 PM
MCWICKED BEST HORSE ON THE PLANET..

NOTHIN ELSE TO TALK ABOUT AT THIS MOMENT
Horse was a rat before this year.  If your trainer had carrots like that maybe you'd win a race outside of the midwest.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: MeadowMacho on October 29, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
Quote from: Superfecta  ngc3 ngc3link=topic=62421.msg962960#msg962960 date=1540778644
Horse was a rat before this year.  If your trainer had carrots like that maybe you'd win a race outside of the midwest.
Hasnt he won over 4 million Rat?   ngc3  ngc3 ngc3 can I have just 1/2 a rat please.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Equus Caballus on October 29, 2018, 12:20:08 PM
http://ustrottingnews.com/lazarus-n-scopes-sick/
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 29, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
http://ustrottingnews.com/lazarus-n-scopes-sick/

Buffy may well be right about Takter.

Regardless if this horse ever races again and whether you say he's a dog (which he isn't),  You keep racing a horse that is sick and with modern medicine the way it is today, you don't make sure he's 100 percent over a virus then you should be criticized.

Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Fatboy on October 29, 2018, 01:08:05 PM
THEY ALL SCOPE SICK WHEN TALKING BREDING RIGHTS AND A SHITTY MILE GETS POSTED
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Equus Caballus on October 29, 2018, 02:09:12 PM
Buffy may well be right about Takter.

Regardless if this horse ever races again and whether you say he's a dog (which he isn't),  You keep racing a horse that is sick and with modern medicine the way it is today, you don't make sure he's 100 percent over a virus then you should be criticized.

why are they racing a horse on the front end when they knew he wasnt 100%?
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Fatboy on October 29, 2018, 02:30:34 PM
why are they racing a horse on the front end when they knew he wasnt 100%?

BECAUSE MOST THAT START ARE "RACEWAY SORE" ANYWAYS?
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 29, 2018, 02:32:25 PM
Buffy may well be right about Takter.

Regardless if this horse ever races again and whether you say he's a dog (which he isn't),  You keep racing a horse that is sick and with modern medicine the way it is today, you don't make sure he's 100 percent over a virus then you should be criticized.

yo, yo, Rin Tin Tin,

I'm not discounting the sickness angle but Yimmy has been over-using that excuse ever since Hoosier.   But my point is from the training standpoint.  NO WAY you can prepare a horse for the BC final without steady racing or at least some serious qualifiers.  And then to tell Yanny to "drive him like he's the best" only makes the problem worse.  Overall, horrendous management and driving.  All arrows point directly to Yimmy.  Until next time, sweeties......... ..HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Calhoun on October 29, 2018, 02:33:16 PM
why are they racing a horse on the front end when they knew he wasnt 100%?
4 Million reasons why.

Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 29, 2018, 02:37:45 PM
why are they racing a horse on the front end when they knew he wasnt 100%?

Kinda stupid is it not?

I also think there was extreme pressure for him to put up a big mile and to win a big race to ensure he had a good stud career and maybe they knew he was not 100 percent but decided to forge ahead anyway.

This will have no affect on his standing down under as they know what they saw but up here, he has been devalued because of all this and he either has to race again next season which I doubt or they will have to put up with a smaller book of mares and build his reputation the hard way.

If I was still in the breeding business I would send mares to him because of his breeding and temperament. He's a beautifully natured stallion and I personally think he will do very well as a stallion.

In hindsight, the horse should have come up here two months earlier, they all get sick and this was just a pressure cooker campaign IMO. To race against the best, you cannot obviously afford to be less than 100 percent.

These are animals, not fucking machines.

Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Calhoun on October 29, 2018, 02:39:30 PM
Kinda stupid is it not?

I also think there was extreme pressure for him to put up a big mile and to win a big race to ensure he had a good stud career and maybe they knew he was not 100 percent but decided to forge ahead anyway.

This will have no affect on his standing down under as they know what they saw but up here, he has been devalued because of all this and he either has to race again next season which I doubt or they will have to put up with a smaller book of mares and build his reputation the hard way.

If I was still in the breeding business I would send mares to him because of his breeding and temperament. He's a beautifully natured stallion and I personally think he will do very well as a stallion.

In hindsight, the horse should have come up here two months earlier, they all get sick and this was just a pressure cooker campaign IMO. To race against the best, you cannot obviously afford to be less than 100 percent.

These are animals, not fucking machines.
FFS

Give It The Fuck Up.

Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: hoosierboy on October 29, 2018, 03:53:49 PM
MCWICKED BEST HORSE ON THE PLANET..

NOTHIN ELSE TO TALK ABOUT AT THIS MOMENT

Agree
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: PIGLAND on October 29, 2018, 04:27:59 PM
i dont thunk he was sick,i thunk thats a lie
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Brown jug on October 29, 2018, 04:29:57 PM
lazarus will get decent mares in north America
very well bred and had an outstanding career before arriving here
as for gingras he is highly over rated, has always been driving the best for takter or burke , cant recall seeing him win a race he shouldn't and have certainly seen him lose many he should not
cant blame him for lazarus on Saturday obviously
couple of nice drives by gingras and scotty z, fun to watch as long as you didnt own those horses
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 29, 2018, 04:31:18 PM
Kinda stupid is it not?

I also think there was extreme pressure for him to put up a big mile and to win a big race to ensure he had a good stud career and maybe they knew he was not 100 percent but decided to forge ahead anyway.

This will have no affect on his standing down under as they know what they saw but up here, he has been devalued because of all this and he either has to race again next season which I doubt or they will have to put up with a smaller book of mares and build his reputation the hard way.

If I was still in the breeding business I would send mares to him because of his breeding and temperament. He's a beautifully natured stallion and I personally think he will do very well as a stallion.

In hindsight, the horse should have come up here two months earlier, they all get sick and this was just a pressure cooker campaign IMO. To race against the best, you cannot obviously afford to be less than 100 percent.

These are animals, not fucking machines.

Here's what they should have done back in June or July 2018 when they brought him over:

Send the horse to Croghan.  Plan on a specific schedule for 2018 2019.   Those tattoos love nothing more than time and easy, gradually tougher racing from behind.  Period.  Even retard asswipes like Hammer Head and Lice Man probably could guess this.

Until next time, laddies.......... ........HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: PIGLAND on October 29, 2018, 04:36:33 PM
i think yankick is a drug driver only
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Brown jug on October 29, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
seriously ?? a lie he was sick!!
 a horse that went in 1;46 a few weeks ago stops at the half and backs through the field , and your reason for him doing that would be what??
I think mcwicked is the best aged pacer
but give lasarus some credit for past achievements
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: PIGLAND on October 29, 2018, 04:47:47 PM
detention barn showed us what lazerus really iso
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Fatboy on October 29, 2018, 04:51:51 PM
detention barn showed us what lazerus really iso

testing at pcd scared him ngc3
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Calhoun on October 29, 2018, 05:19:02 PM
seriously ?? a lie he was sick!!
 a horse that went in 1;46 a few weeks ago stops at the half and backs through the field , and your reason for him doing that would be what??
I think mcwicked is the best aged pacer
but give lasarus some credit for past achievements
World Records were dropping at Red Mile faster than Rufollo's pants in a fag bar toilet.

Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: slivercharm on October 29, 2018, 07:09:54 PM
THEY ALL SCOPE SICK WHEN TALKING BREDING RIGHTS AND A SHITTY MILE GETS POSTED

I remember Jordan scoping sick in game 5 of the 97 finals still dropped almost 40
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Fatboy on October 29, 2018, 07:33:01 PM
I remember Jordan scoping sick in game 5 of the 97 finals still dropped almost 40

THAT INDEED HAPPENED tmbz1
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Bigm9494 on October 29, 2018, 07:35:32 PM
There is a difference between a bust and not living up to the hype fully.  I mean you people are making it like the horse should be in a 10 claimer, he made 700,000 and raced 3 months lol.  Of course the horse scoped sick because everytime Jimmy has anything race bad they are automatically sick.  See You At Peelers turned into See You At Excuses.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Calhoun on October 29, 2018, 07:35:35 PM
Apparently, you've been swallowing this "He Got Sick" excuse balls deep across 15 time zones, 6 continents and 3 hemispheres and will likely do so for the rest of your natural days.

Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Lance on October 29, 2018, 08:27:05 PM
Apparently, you've been swallowing this "He Got Sick" excuse balls deep across 15 time zones, 6 continents and 3 hemispheres and will likely do so for the rest of your natural days.

I remember the last time I swallowed something balls deep.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: CaliRacer on October 30, 2018, 12:47:41 AM
why are they racing a horse on the front end when they knew he wasnt 100%?

That’s all Yannick  wants to do with this worse. Try racing  him off the pace once without coming first up ...  Tackter would be way better off by making a driver change  to either Tetrick or Miller
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Atthetrack7 on October 30, 2018, 07:18:19 AM
Jimmy Takter's  ego scoped sick.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Refusedtopace on October 30, 2018, 05:27:25 PM
Stud fee $10,000, book full and closed.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 30, 2018, 05:41:58 PM
Trainer Jimmy Takter told harnessracing.com Tuesday morning that post-race tests revealed Lazarus N bled during last Saturday's $430,000 Breeders Crown Open Pace at The Downs at Mohegan Sun Pocono.

Driven by Yannick Gingras, Lazarus N battled to the lead before reaching the half in :55.2, but after yielding to eventual winner McWicked, he backed through the field and finished last in the eight-horse field, beaten 19 1/4 lengths.

Without eliminations necessary for the Open Pace, Lazarus N came into the race having not raced since finishing second to McWicked in the Allerage Farm Pace on Oct. 6 at The Red Mile. Lazarus N had been scheduled to start in the $250,000 Dan Rooney Invitational on Oct. 13 at Yonkers Raceway, but he was scratched "sick" by Takter.

Takter said prior to the Breeders Crown that Lazarus N had been on antibiotics, but all signs indicated the 6-year-old pacer was 100 percent heading into Saturday's contest.

"We thought we had everything under control, but at the same token, the antibiotics kind of covered everything," said Takter. "In hindsight you'd say we shouldn't have raced him, but in hindsight we are all the best quarterbacks.

"He had never bled before. He didn't bleed because he is a bleeder, he bled because he was fighting a virus. And that's so sad. This was the race we were aiming for."

Aiming for?  Say, what?  He was sick, on antibiotics, HAD NOT RACED, and you are "aiming" for the Breeder's Crown?  What a fucking idiot.  He makes those retards Hammer Head and Lice Man look like Einsteins.

So in a matter of a few months, Yimmy turned the world's best racehorse into a bleeding, steppy, stopping, gutless rat.  The Yimmy and Yanny Show.   And this is what Jewffrey puts out there for his product.  Idiots.  Until next time, darlings......... ........HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 30, 2018, 09:13:46 PM
Buffy, what does Jewffrey have to do with this horse ??

yo, yo, Quentin Tarantino,

Expand your horizons, kid.  The anti-equity rider (love the handle) Jew parades Yimmy and Yanny as his poster boys of his harness racing "vision" all at the expense of dozens of DACA horsemen and hundreds of upper class horses. So, Yimmy swallows that Nazi bratwurst and Jewffrey brags of the white boy toys he has at the bus station.  Mexican-free, Caravan-free, leprosy-free racing.  Isn't that great?  Fuck him and all the Hitler Youth.  Until next time, laddies.......... .....HEIL HITLER!!

p.s.  Why don't you tell the idiots on this worthless forum like Hammer Head and Lice Man what "equity rider" means.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: horses first on October 31, 2018, 09:08:33 AM
Let's stop using the Red Mile times as if they are relevant to anything other then a mark for breeding time. You had a MOMM  mare trotter go sub 50. You had Double A Mint mare pacer go in 47 change, amongst a list of others that will never be sniff anything close to those miles again.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: bond on October 31, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
Let's stop using the Red Mile times as if they are relevant to anything other then a mark for breeding time. You had a MOMM  mare trotter go sub 50. You had Double A Mint mare pacer go in 47 change, amongst a list of others that will never be sniff anything close to those miles again.

 tmbz1-Those times at the red mile were good to watch-but misleading when going to the breeding shed. They were 4-5 seconds faster than Yonkers and 2 seconds faster than Poconos-which is already a fast track with BS times.

A better guide is who you beat-How many Major races did you win .

Somebeach for example only beaten once in his career and even in defeat  he was unbelievable-plus was a Champion on any size track. His win at Yonkers for example when he beat Shadowplay was unreal. The Beach had everything-Gate speed,flawless motion,stamina,ultra high speed and was
very game. He still is one of the best looking Standardbreds of all time just like Secretariat in the TB's  Beach was over 17 hands tall and Im still waiting to see a better horse. He was the GOAT.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on October 31, 2018, 10:45:51 AM
BREEDING REPORT CARD FOR LAZARBUST

Looks (from TV and replays only)       B+
Size                                                    A
Gait (in USA)                                       C-
Speed                                                C
Heart/Stamina                                    A
Money                                                A+
Breeding  (love Bettors D.)                 A 
Stud Fee                                            A
Outcross Blood                                  A

FINAL GRADE                                      B   (I did not like what his gait looked like after Yimmy got done with him.  Gait is big.  Ask many of the folks who bought those high-priced Deweys years ago.)  Would I breed to him?  I love the horse and In The Pocket made stallions, but there are too many American alternatives available with flawless gaits.  No I would not.

Until next time, darlings......... ...HEIL HITLER!!                         
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: viking55 on October 31, 2018, 01:13:40 PM
http://ustrottingnews.com/lazarus-n-scopes-sick/

So Takter raced a sick horse. Hmmmmm, sounds like a great trainer to me. He KNEW the horse was just scratched sick. Yet raced him again. I'd say he knew he was still sick. But since he's "retiring" what difference does it make to him?
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: samstar on November 01, 2018, 12:24:20 PM
Anythingforlove  A just told me he would like a re match with Lazarus. Just saying!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: bond on November 01, 2018, 04:11:19 PM
Dont know about anyone else-but Im actually glad Takter is retiring so hopefully we dont have to listen to his talk about how great he is,everyone of his horses was the best there ever was,his father was the best trainer in the world along with himself now- and the latest-"Tactical Landing is easily the best 3yo trotter"-better than 6 pack etc. I know he wants to promote the shit out of his horses as the real money is in the breeding shed but its low class IMHO running others down.
This of course riles the opposition--and the owners have now challenged Takter to a match race.
Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Yonkers1 on November 01, 2018, 04:22:32 PM
Interesting, a Match race, when was the last one ?
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: bond on November 01, 2018, 04:29:04 PM
Interesting, a Match race, when was the last one ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Apprk8BO4
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: buffalo believer on November 01, 2018, 05:08:39 PM
Pea hearted is an understatement.  Let's see if they use the reliable excuse of "he scoped sick".  It would be so refreshing to hear words of honesty out of Takter saying Lazarbust is not as good as we thought he would be.
I posted this a day before his interview and I'm no genius.   This business is so fucking predictable.  Excuse excuse excuse.  I've never heard a trainer say "the horse isn't what we thought" or "I screwed the horse up".  Always the same "scoped sick" excuse.  Who the hell does he think he is fooling?
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Yonkers1 on November 01, 2018, 05:43:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Apprk8BO4

Thanks, I just watched it, though it was a 1 horse race
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: samstar on November 01, 2018, 06:43:09 PM
Anything For Love told me he parked him once and would park him again. Just saying!
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: hoosierboy on November 01, 2018, 10:37:39 PM
I'm just wondering could the departure of Croghan and Takter have anything to do with what was discovered by Hong Kong on a US sample not yet released.

I didn’t know Croghan was leaving
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on November 02, 2018, 10:17:56 AM
Apparently along with Daley


...and Harley-Davidson.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Refusedtopace on November 02, 2018, 04:34:16 PM
No stud fee announced.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: bond on November 02, 2018, 04:46:29 PM
Where??
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: TimTimTimbo on November 02, 2018, 06:26:36 PM
Mark Purdon comments

The odds must favour Lazarus being retired after his dramatic failure in the Breeder’s Crown and it will hurt all who knew him if this is the way he bows out of one of the greatest harness careers of modern times.

It will especially hurt Mark Purdon, his biggest fan, who formed an emotional bond with the brilliant intelligent, kind Lazarus few other horses in his life have equalled.

“I am still picking myself off the floor” Mark said soon after watching Lazarus fade quickly from the 700m when headed by McWicked and finish last in the race he had been set to win since going to the United States.

“That is just not him. I can’t understand it and don’t know what happened but I know it is not him”

While he is not making a criticism Mark does have one regret about the American career of Lazarus.

He was never consulted on any aspect of the horse’s routines and preferences from the day he was sold.

“Nobody ever rang. I didn’t really expect it because that is the way they do it over there but then maybe I could have been of some help to Jimmy even though he is such a great trainer. Because the environment and racing is so different they prefer to form their own opinions and fair enough. ”
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: buffalo believer on November 02, 2018, 07:22:05 PM
Mark Purdon comments

The odds must favour Lazarus being retired after his dramatic failure in the Breeder’s Crown and it will hurt all who knew him if this is the way he bows out of one of the greatest harness careers of modern times.

It will especially hurt Mark Purdon, his biggest fan, who formed an emotional bond with the brilliant intelligent, kind Lazarus few other horses in his life have equalled.

“I am still picking myself off the floor” Mark said soon after watching Lazarus fade quickly from the 700m when headed by McWicked and finish last in the race he had been set to win since going to the United States.

“That is just not him. I can’t understand it and don’t know what happened but I know it is not him”

While he is not making a criticism Mark does have one regret about the American career of Lazarus.

He was never consulted on any aspect of the horse’s routines and preferences from the day he was sold.

“Nobody ever rang. I didn’t really expect it because that is the way they do it over there but then maybe I could have been of some help to Jimmy even though he is such a great trainer. Because the environment and racing is so different they prefer to form their own opinions and fair enough. ”
IMO his Interpretation in plain English= Yimmy fucked him up. 
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: TimTimTimbo on November 02, 2018, 07:35:49 PM
Slightly off topic. Natalie Rasmussen who was involved in that race fixing/Drug episode over there drives the winner (13) on the outside in a 3 way finish and is fined $1,000 for using the whip too many times in the stretch.

Check the race out. IMO (I am an animal lover) that charge should never have been brought. I guess she's making sure she's not accused of stiffing a horse. Purdon and her had 5 horses in the race. It is a heat of the Sires Stakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=172&v=V-ZPLIfaYGw

And in her last 110 drives she has won 55 of them. .500 win percentage shows they got owners with big pockets
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: buffalo believer on November 02, 2018, 11:17:36 PM
Bust in the US. If the horse really did “scope sick” wouldn’t they want to get the horse right and finish his career on a high note and a good performance?  They know that another race would expose him even further as an overhyped bust. 
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: hammer0419 on November 03, 2018, 12:26:35 AM
HE'LL BE ANOTHER LIS MARA . WORST BROODMARE GROUP IN NJ
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: Refusedtopace on November 03, 2018, 08:15:36 AM
Syndation in progress, shares being sold. US stud fee $10,000. Down under stud fee TBD.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: dinkadoo on November 03, 2018, 11:47:17 AM
Terrible state to stand a stallion. They need a pacer so for $5-6000 he fills a void. Likely will get less than 60 mares.
you'll never really know...


press statement will say it's a full book, but how many are freebies to bolster the numbers.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: horses first on November 03, 2018, 02:00:13 PM
NJ could turn it around a little if Gural gets his wish on a 20M charity to purses. Or if the sports wagering can muster some purse money they can put that to the young horses. I agree will be lucky to get 60 mares but I think fee closer to 10k.
Title: Re: Lazarus N
Post by: towtruck on November 04, 2018, 06:38:55 AM
Why do i smell "Pro Harness" lots in this Post?
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