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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: captain cash on December 08, 2017, 06:15:14 PM
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...that took about what I said a month or so. Now in a short while there will suddenly be a picture on Facebook in a jogcart. You know damn well they all read the plop. ngc3
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TELL US
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TELL US
jenn bong
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PICTURES PLZ
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PICTURES PLZ
it was at harrahs watch replay
jerrys horse
vila somthing
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Short shorts
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GREASY HAIR,,,,,
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Just walking around....if she ever sat in a jogcart there would be a pic on FB, for sure...that's not to say you won't in the future, I say probably not...
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GREASY HAIR,,,,,
I agree and she has a big nose. I got that the first night of Cal Expo. I haven't tuned in to that kiss ass fest again. I had to see it once and it was enough.
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https://twitter.com/JennBongiorno
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQj1mL9WAAEWtnB?format=jpg)
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YOU FOOLS MUST NEVER GET PUSSY!
SHE AINT NOTHING BUT A DUMB ASS KUNT!
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If you follow Jen B on Twitter she is consistently tweeting pictures of every win. Pictures of her posing all the time. Now she is setting up a web site and selling a line of JB stable apparel. I really have nothing against her but I wonder. Does she want to be a horse trainer or a celebrity? I guess it bothers me because she marched right in and started winning while most work in the trenches for years to get a shot. Just another Harness racing sham.
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If you follow Jen B on Twitter she is consistently tweeting pictures of every win. Pictures of her posing all the time. Now she is setting up a web site and selling a line of JB stable apparel. I really have nothing against her but I wonder. Does she want to be a horse trainer or a celebrity? I guess it bothers me because she marched right in and started winning while most work in the trenches for years to get a shot. Just another Harness racing sham.
I feel the same way
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She doesn't know which end the food goes in and which end it comes out of.
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She doesn't need to know much when she has daddy around
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It was only time till the jealous haters came Out ! They are at the barn at 8am she is on the track on her horses everyday , on a Sunday in 1 degree weather , she has great owners who buy her horses,because she has done well for them , She comes from a ThirdGenration of harness racing . The Dancer family has been in the Game forever !!! It’s not like she has just started !!!
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It was only time till the jealous haters came Out ! They are at the barn at 8am she is on the track on her horses everyday , on a Sunday in 1 degree weather , she has great owners who buy her horses,because she has done well for them , She comes from a ThirdGenration of harness racing . The Dancer family has been in the Game forever !!! It’s not like she has just started !!!
your an idiot, nobody's jealous... Show us a picture of her jogging, or doing anything that a trainer does. Besides wearing her colors, now..... ngc3
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If you follow Jen B on Twitter she is consistently tweeting pictures of every win. Pictures of her posing all the time. Now she is setting up a web site and selling a line of JB stable apparel. I really have nothing against her but I wonder. Does she want to be a horse trainer or a celebrity? I guess it bothers me because she marched right in and started winning while most work in the trenches for years to get a shot. Just another Harness racing sham.
What's the big deal? She is giving this sport some life. What are you doing for the sport? Coming on here and bitching all day?
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your an idiot, nobody's jealous... Show us a picture of her jogging, or doing anything that a trainer does. Besides wearing her colors, now..... ngc3
Here you go https://twitter.com/jennbongiorno/status/680399946764398592
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Here you go https://twitter.com/jennbongiorno/status/680399946764398592
That is a real nice picture. Where is the horse? ngc3
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Not even a fake tail ngc3 ngc3 r u f#cking kidding?
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YES THATS FAKE
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Eddie my boy,, how’s the coop???
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It was only time till the jealous haters came Out ! They are at the barn at 8am she is on the track on her horses everyday , on a Sunday in 1 degree weather , she has great owners who buy her horses,because she has done well for them , She comes from a ThirdGenration of harness racing . The Dancer family has been in the Game forever !!! It’s not like she has just started !!!
Sonny is spinning in his grave. It is disgraceful.. And he never liked Bobby..fact
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Eddie my boy,, how’s the coop???
CAN I STOP BY FOR SEVERAL CHEESEBURGERS?
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CAN I STOP BY FOR SEVERAL CHEESEBURGERS?
all gone
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What trainer jogs in them type of clothes. I call bullshit.
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AT THE BARN BY 8 O CLOCK? THE BOYS ALREADY BEEN WITH A FEW...SORRY ngc3
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Highly doubt it
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Here you go https://twitter.com/jennbongiorno/status/680399946764398592
She looks really comfortable out there..... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Well, I called that, just didn't know that it would be without a horse attached to the jogcart..
ngc3 u really can't make this shit up..
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Bump for the bongiornos... tmbz1
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Looks like her bro in a wig.
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Lucpark getting colors. Gonna jog his steeds in summer when they get to Hoosier Park.
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Lucpark getting colors. Gonna jog his steeds in summer when they get to Hoosier Park.
That would be dangerous. Noway in hell he could see where he was going.
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That would be dangerous. Noway in hell he could see where he was going.
Wow I'm HURT
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Wow I'm HURT
Big horse Luc 12 hands im sayin ;D
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Love the family but a little surprised at Jenn. Why does she do all of this stuff? Does she think people really believe she is a trainer? Like trainer of the week etc? We all know she is the next beard for her dad. Which is fine. But Jenn please don’t continue to parade around like you are making these horses decisions etc. Its kind of insulting to all horsemen and women and takes the level of respect I had for you way down.
It’s not her dad
Joe doesn’t talk to him
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I'd fuck her but I'm afraid I would have to share her with her brother
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I’m crying. ngc3
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Love the family but a little surprised at Jenn. Why does she do all of this stuff? Does she think people really believe she is a trainer? Like trainer of the week etc? We all know she is the next beard for her dad. Which is fine. But Jenn please don’t continue to parade around like you are making these horses decisions etc. Its kind of insulting to all horsemen and women and takes the level of respect I had for you way down.
She’s entitled to parade. She has won more races in her short career than your “out of business “ trainer made in his 20 years.
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She’s entitled to parade. She has won more races in her short career than your “out of business “ trainer made in his 20 years.
his trainer never took it in the ass for training advice!
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She the Herpes equine culprit???
Stop it,,I'm crying
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tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
YOU CAN'T MAKE ALL THIS SHIT UP
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...that took about what I said a month or so. Now in a short while there will suddenly be a picture on Facebook in a jogcart. You know damn well they all read the plop. ngc3
well duh! of course they do tmbz1
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Horsemen and owners, what do you think of Jeff Gural when you race at the meadowlands and get steam rolled by a bongiorno horse?
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She’s been working on writing a chapter for the new Care and Training of the Trotter and pacer. Her chapter is on shoeing like stopping cross firing, getting a pacer off his knees, stopping a trotter from scalping. She is 99% done. It’s two sentences.
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Two words...camel toe.
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Looks good to me :1
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Lunch. Munch down. Once you get by the smell, you have it licked.
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Lunch. Munch down. Once you get by the smell, you have it licked.
smells like lil Joe B down dere
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Let’s face it she’s one of harness racing’s prettiest ladies . She obviously loves horses and the game .
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Did they have to win by 20 today at Freehold? Was 15 not enough?
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Did they have to win by 20 today at Freehold? Was 15 not enough?
That was an easy cash at almost 2/1 tmbz1
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Let’s face it she’s one of harness racing’s prettiest ladies . She obviously loves horses and the game .
Oh yeah lots of competition model types flock to harness racing
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I'd hit it....and then hit it again. Haters gonna hate....
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Go for the pink and avoid the brown hold your nose and munch on down. 11.zq 11.zq 11.zq 11.zq 11.zq 11.zq 11.zq 11.zq
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Incoming winner in the last at Mecca tonight
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Coast to coast with super Brett at 6/1
Cha ching
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Coast to coast with super Brett at 6/1
Cha ching
Hay and oats?
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Hay and oats?
who cares?
not my problem
make some $$$
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e.barressing
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who cares?
not my problem
make some $$$
YOUR RIGHT, FUCK THE HORSES,,
HOPE THEY KILL THE COCKSUCKERS SO WE CAN MAKE CASH
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YOUR RIGHT, FUCK THE HORSES,,
HOPE THEY KILL THE COCKSUCKERS SO WE CAN MAKE CASH
How many horses has Josh and Tracey doped up ? Stop acting like you give a shit ........
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How many horses has Josh and Tracey doped up ? Stop acting like you give a shit ........
in what capacity are you in the game?
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https://twitter.com/JBRacingStable
Got to give her a little bit of credit for trying to use some level of technology to engage the fans. She may be a "bearded clam" but this is something positive!
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Goshen is making her statue as I type this. It will have her legs apart and some flies. 11.wp 11.wp
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91z.his
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Lol 8 am to late.old school 84zac.1 bunch saying its to late..I can see if you knew it was gonna be 110 out but other then that 96z.p
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Lol 8 am to late.old school 84zac.1 bunch saying its to late..I can see if you knew it was gonna be 110 out but other then that 96z.p
ITS TO FUCKIN LATE
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Goshen is making her statue as I type this. It will have her legs apart and some flies. 11.wp 11.wp
forgot the tube of KY
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another winner at yonkers tonight
this time 10 bucks
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And the name of the horse was Italian for beautiful girl
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Hottie with serious camel toe.
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Actual video of her jogging one on twitter Looks smooth in the bike
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You guys know the truth, Daddy Bobby bong is a cunt, bro Joey is a loose cunt, looking at the way things are Jenn Ho has the only cock in that family, shoved it up Joey's ass too!
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say what you want but shes been wearing cute clothes in the paddock lately . Everyone is looking as she goes by smiling and shaking that firm ass.
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On the prowl. Looking for fresh dick and new owners.
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You guys know the truth, Daddy Bobby bong is a cunt, bro Joey is a loose cunt, looking at the way things are Jenn Ho has the only cock in that family, shoved it up Joey's ass too!
You would be with her if you had the chance!
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Goshen is making her statue as I type this. It will have her legs apart and some flies. 11.wp 11.wp
Will it have Ron Burkes cock on the statue? 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
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Ronnie was lucky to be tapping that while she is still young and tight . Hell they basically owned a room in the Freehold hotel which by the way is a beautiful Hotel costing big bucks a night .
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You would be with her if you had the chance!
already made one mistake, why in the fuck would I make another?
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need a real investagation
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ny are all democrate apointed no show jobs
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Freehold may not attract the top trainers. Some purses under $3000. This is 2018. How can they survive?
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already made one mistake, why in the fuck would I make another?
You would lick it!
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Absolutely
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Freehold may not attract the top trainers. Some purses under $3000. This is 2018. How can they survive?
owned by a conglomerate, waiting for expanded gaming
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in what capacity are you in the game?
In what capacity have you ever been in the game ? Fake stories of blacksmithing don't count ......
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In what capacity have you ever been in the game ? Fake stories of blacksmithing don't count ......
i asked you first ,paddy cake paddy cake
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i asked you first ,paddy cake paddy cake
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Allow me to clarify this. Jenn Bongiorno gets into the jog cart but she has to sit in the cart while someone holds the horse and someone else hands her the lines. Even then she does not know how to hold the lines and someone has to fix her hands in place. It's pathetic.
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And then you have an overnite sensation with a .500 UDRS.
What a total farce this game has become.
She can't even hook one up. Sad
Whoever signed off on her "trainers license", ought to have his own license yanked.
I'm SURE they were "compensated" for their work.
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say what you want but shes been wearing cute clothes in the paddock lately . Everyone is looking as she goes by smiling and shaking that firm ass.
She's going after the Kardashian type following. 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
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another winner in the 2nd at meadowlands tonight
$13.6 cha ching
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Allow me to clarify this. Jenn Bongiorno gets into the jog cart but she has to sit in the cart while someone holds the horse and someone else hands her the lines. Even then she does not know how to hold the lines and someone has to fix her hands in place. It's pathetic.
JUST THINK HOW GOOD SHE WILL DO WHEN SHE LEARNS TO
TRAIN AND NOT JUST JOG THEM!!!!
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Hi All . Can someone answer this please something I don't understand but I'm sure there's a explanation? Ok about 2 years ago I seen that her mom and dad had horses with other trainers and they weren't trainers them thereselves now they all have trainers licenses and they learned how to train in 2 years. I talked to other trainers and they said they NEVER seen her train or groom or jog ( nothing ) with any other trainer , now this is a industry that everyone knows everybody's business lol someone would of seen her somewhere. What I would like to no is how she can pass a trainers test ? or did someone just take it for her ? they should make her retake it in front of a official . if anyone ever seen her train or seen her learn from someone please post who and please do put Burke .
it cant be a real test?
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ANYONE with an IQ of 40 could pass it. Asks silly, simple questions. If a horse gets on a line, what should a trainer look for? With about 5 or 6 acceptable answers. If a horse bites his tongue or gets it over the bit, what should a trainer do? Questions like that. You used to have to have 3 people who have trained horses WITH you also. ACTUALLY going timed miles together.
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ANYONE with an IQ of 40 could pass it. Asks silly, simple questions. If a horse gets on a line, what should a trainer look for? With about 5 or 6 acceptable answers. If a horse bites his tongue or gets it over the bit, what should a trainer do? Questions like that. You used to have to have 3 people who have trained horses WITH you also. ACTUALLY going timed miles together.
Not much difference than test to drive a car.
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Hopefully some more hot pieces of ass take that test and stroll through the paddock in skintight black spandex like she does .
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Gave out a $44 dollar horse in the Cal-Expo Pick 4 as top pick. GJ JBO!
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Gural may not want to hang out in the simulcast room at Tioga anymore, even pick 3 Frankie is suspicious of her stats...
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Hopefully some more hot pieces of ass take that test and stroll through the paddock in skintight black spandex like she does .
11.wj
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Haters gonna hate...young girl training (at least on paper), most here only in their dreams, she's decent looking, got a body worth showing and enjoying life. More than a lot on here.....you go girl!!
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do able? yes good looking a 7500 claimer at best. 1-10 shes a 6 and that's being nice.
She was a 6 until they did the close up at Calshitpo. Her stock plummeted.
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another winner in the 1st at yawnkers tonight
this time 3/1
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According to the USTA, you need a reference from at least 6 trainers to get your trainers license. They would have supposedly witnessed her jogging/training a horse (LOL). I believe she is a beard for her daddy Bubby or her brother Joey or maybe even Burke? I wonder when she is going to start qualifying horses. As you already know, a lot of drivers put their horses in a beards name that way they can still work if they get a positive.
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Not bad, took her 2 months to learn how to train a horse.
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another winner in the 3rd
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Correct. But I thought it 5, but wasnt sure, so I never mentioned it.
Guess Mr. Burke was one ot them......along with Nick Surick.
USTA, please check this out . We want to get this right........if for nothing else but general knowledge.
Gosh, you don't think these references lied, do YOU??????
I remember when I got my trainer/driver license one of my references (Don Mckirgan) wanted to watch me go a mile in 2:40 before he would sign the reference sheet.
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3 for 3.
I really see an improvement in headpoles. Terrific.
tmbz1
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Maybe I am late to the party and this is OBVIOUS! Does Jeff Gural notice that Bob Bongiorno races horses in his name at Freehold and his daughter Jenn races horses in his name at Meadowlands where he is banned? Is Gural this arrogant? I know he's not stupid, but this is beyond reality. The obvious thing is that Bob Bongiorno's daughter is a BEARD for her own father. Why is this allowed to happen? Is this Gural for real?
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Do you think anybody cares except ploppers and horsemen? This game is so fucked up its ridiculous. The judges and racing commissions absolutely don’t care. Why wouldn’t you put her horses in detention for awhile?
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Lets be honest she is a very good looking young woman in a game of shrecks , She has been nice enough to allow some to sample her charms which is a great thing . She bedded the games leading driver and trainer which is another good thing .
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Lets be honest she is a very good looking young woman in a game of shrecks , She has been nice enough to allow some to sample her charms which is a great thing . She bedded the games leading driver and trainer which is another good thing .
WAIT TILL SHE HAS HER "ME TOO" MOMENT AND ACCUSES EVERYBODY IN THE INDUSTRY OF RAPE AND SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WE WILL SEE HOW MUCH OF A GOOD THING COMES BACK TO BITE THE MEN IN THE ASS. JUST A MATTER OF TIME. AND WE KNOW, WOMEN NEVER LIE WHEN IT COMES TO SEXUAL ALLEGATIONS....
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WAIT TILL SHE HAS HER "ME TOO" MOMENT AND ACCUSES EVERYBODY IN THE INDUSTRY OF RAPE AND SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WE WILL SEE HOW MUCH OF A GOOD THING COMES BACK TO BITE THE MEN IN THE ASS. JUST A MATTER OF TIME. AND WE KNOW, WOMEN NEVER LIE WHEN IT COMES TO SEXUAL ALLEGATIONS....
I guess no big strong men of valor are going to step up to the plate on this one.
So, do allow me… No, really, I insist. You guys just sit back down. I've got this...
And yet, Mr. Dirt, it seems to me you’re taking the word of these ‘men’, for lack of any better characterization, at their word but not women at theirs? No. Because women all lie, apparently. Like many other men taking issue, it seems to me your attitude with the #Metoo movement is likely because it has you a little nervous and evaluating your potential past misconduct. Ever take advantage of a woman who’s had too much to drink and possibly even passed out? Grabbed an ass, pussy or tit in a crowd perhaps? Took advantage of a position of authority over a woman? Intimidated a woman into cowing to you, maybe?
Hmm… Now might even be a good time to refresh the presumption that women lie about their claims of sexual assault, huh? Good thinking/cover: plausible deniability. That’s the ticket! Sure they’d be lying, because they’re in it for the big payoff of accusing men in… harness racing? No, wait. Um, football? Boxing? Nah, Hollywood! Cause that’s where the money is, amirite? And we all know women are gold diggers and spiteful… just plain not to be trusted. How do we know this? Because men say so, of course. And the mens are the believable ones, despite their aggression and nastiness. I mean why would they lie? What possible motivation could they have? ::)But if women having sexual agency (And oh noes! Better put a stop to that shit), because they’re just as sexual if not more so as men, they are diseased and dirty for not holding their purely figment of imagination “purity” aloft for deserving men… which I suppose you fancy yourself as being based on your hostile and entitled attitude. Although perhaps not terribly attractive to women in the first place because you’re not very stand-up and decent, but kind of a weasel, and also explaining your contempt for them; who got them that way according to this thinking of yours if not men? Oh but let’s make women the responsible parties in the equal equation, because they’re the fucking gatekeepers of society’s morality or something. Convenient story you got there, buddy. I guess it’s not just those smarmy Hollywood types that are the objectifying, misogynist and patriarchal scum bags thinking women are their property to be used and abused at their own discretion. And who, incidentally, best keep quiet about it or be subject to THIS fucking bullshit. Yep, knowing this is the treatment in store for them is bound to assure their silence, and usually does. Kind of a zero sum game for women, though really, isn’t it? Yep. And that’s exactly how you “deserving” men appear to intend on keeping it.
Either that or you can justify it because of other unrelated accusations against her. Sure they're speculative but she has it coming anyway, no doubt you're sure. And all the other women caught up and silenced by it?
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SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT GLORYHOLE ALLRED SAID. I WAS ON JENNS SIDE, NOT SO SURE NOW.
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thank god I only skimmed.......... ...... 11.prn
SHE BASICLY CALLED HIM A WEASEL
CARRY ON...
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I THINK MsHOLE JUST SAID WE NEED A CONSENT FORM BEFORE WE ENGAGE IN COITUS. I HAVE NEVER ASKED FOR A PRE NUP, NOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET A PRE NIP?
I GUESS THATS WHY I MADE TAPES OF ALL MY INTERLUDES TO PROVE SHE WANTED IT MORE THAN I DID. IF THEY GET ON TOP AND DO MOST ALL THE WORK, THAT PROVES HER PART IN THE INTERLUDE.
I FEEL SORRY FOR ALL THE YOUNG GUYS IN THIS BIZ NOWADAYS. THESE BROADS HALF ASS SWEATY NEKKID IN THE PADDOCK, STUFF FLOPPING AND HANGING OUT, AND YOU ARE SPOSED TO LOOK AND NOT TOUCH?
BIG DADDY IS GLAD MY TIME CAME BEFORE THESE BROADS GOT RIGHTS.
AND YOU CAN TELL THEM BIG DADDY SAID SO!
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THIS ONE?
(http://www.meadowlandsracetrack.com/assets/0/81/102/317/319/74539a94-8257-4359-874b-8279a5929929.JPG)
Why is Hollywood looking at the camel like he is in love? :1
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Was this her 4th win at Yonkers Saturday. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT GLORYHOLE ALLRED SAID. I WAS ON JENNS SIDE, NOT SO SURE NOW.
Yeah you were. Go ahead now and cite that portion of your post I misconstrued, but were “siding” with her rather than espousing entirely sexist rhetoric. This is what it always comes down to anytime someone on these boards takes issue with a woman. Because that’s how you really devalue and incriminate one, right? Let’s face it. If you had something truly tangible that challenged her credibility or ability, maybe we could all actually consider that. But this shit? No way. It seems more desperate and about your own insecurities or jealousy than anything else. It also delegitimizes any reasonable case that anyone might have had against her.
I THINK MsHOLE JUST SAID WE NEED A CONSENT FORM BEFORE WE ENGAGE IN COITUS. I HAVE NEVER ASKED FOR A PRE NUP, NOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET A PRE NIP?
I GUESS THATS WHY I MADE TAPES OF ALL MY INTERLUDES TO PROVE SHE WANTED IT MORE THAN I DID. IF THEY GET ON TOP AND DO MOST ALL THE WORK, THAT PROVES HER PART IN THE INTERLUDE.
I FEEL SORRY FOR ALL THE YOUNG GUYS IN THIS BIZ NOWADAYS. THESE BROADS HALF ASS SWEATY NEKKID IN THE PADDOCK, STUFF FLOPPING AND HANGING OUT, AND YOU ARE SPOSED TO LOOK AND NOT TOUCH?
BIG DADDY IS GLAD MY TIME CAME BEFORE THESE BROADS GOT RIGHTS.
Did I say anything about consent? Oh, but wait. I guess you could be talking about the ballyhoo that a drunk or unconscious woman, having passed out, has given her implicit consent because she drank too much. And good girls don’t drink in excess because they know it’s their responsibility to police the actions of grown ass men who apparently can't. Yeah, about that? That’s just rape and there really are no two ways about it. Sorry all you Romeos out there…
https://youtu.be/oQbei5JGiT8
And now for the sensationalistic, never happened before, but they sure like to pretend it has so they can keep fucking unconscious women and subverting criminal liability, pearl clutching Men’s Rights Activists’ version…
https://youtu.be/yX6va9glqgA
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I thought I could come on this site and filter thru and find some rational conversations and learn a little, guess not. It is just a haters forum. Most of the time there is little to do with harness racing. Its just a cesspool. I think at least half the people who post on here are working for the casinos or the thoroughbred tracks and their main objective is to kill the sport. Nothing but a bunch of pompous assholes. Others on here have nothing but sour grapes. They made a bad bet, or owned some horses and lost money, or are mad that there are still people out there who do make money, and they are not one of them, so the need to strike out at others, because God forbid, they look at themselves in the mirror. And it is sad that they dont even know that they are being an asshole. And then the gang mentality starts, and all the other pompous assholes jump in and agree. As far as the sexual comments, it is a disgrace. Not that they have wives or daughters, but if they do, would they feel comfortable saying that to them? Or think that their Mother would find those comments acceptable? Their are more civilized people living in the ghettos that some on here. Its not the tracks that should close down, its this website that should be shut down. I will be the first to admit the sport has alot of issues, and many on here that are mentioned have merit, but it just seems the conversations quickly turns into the pompous asses on here rallying up their gang.
You should just stop reading and stop posting if you don't like what is on here. Moral police isn't necessary. Thank you.
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Jenn Bongiorno has been around harness racing her whole life. She just didn't pop up out of the blue and get a trainers license, she already knew the business very well. On top of that, having a relationship with Burke (who no doubt knows the medicine side of the game) was just the gravy on top. And also, having your brother Joe driving your horses (who also got a lot of experience driving Burke horses and is not a bad driver at all in my book) is the most important of all. As most of us know, the driver (who does 2 mins of work) is the absolute KEY! (you can have Foiled Again in a 4 claimer and lose every week)
Like'em or Hate'em.
Team Bongiorno right now is the PERFECT STORM!
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Does everyone realize this thing is going to BLOW UP
They will all be done soon and Papa will be in trouble for Ponzi Scheme
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Does everyone realize this thing is going to BLOW UP
They will all be done soon and Papa will be in trouble for Ponzi Scheme
Jump on the wagon and take it before it goes BOOM! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Agree its all about money
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You should just stop reading and stop posting if you don't like what is on here. Moral police isn't necessary. Thank you.
That’s where you’re wrong because it very clearly is necessary, and that was an excellent post. You can be on the right side of the equation or the wrong - it’s your choice. And right now you appear to be defending the wrong side, fueling and giving license to the extraneous, gratuitous and unnecessary trash. But if that’s the position you want to align yourself, cool! Knock yourself out. But anybody that claims their interest is in harness talk here is being exposed for their disingenuous flimflam by not joining in to choke the other stuff out. Because that absolutely has to be the first order of business if you are to get what you claim to be your intentions here.
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That’s where you’re wrong because it very clearly is necessary, and that was an excellent post. You can be on the right side of the equation or the wrong - it’s your choice. And right now you appear to be defending the wrong side, fueling and giving license to the extraneous, gratuitous and unnecessary trash. But if that’s the position you want to align yourself, cool! Knock yourself out. But anybody that claims their interest is in harness talk here is being exposed for their disingenuous flimflam by not joining in to choke the other stuff out. Because that absolutely has to be the first order of business if you are to get what you claim to be your intentions here.
For the sake of clarity let me just add that I meant it was stevesara's post that was excellent, not Superfectas'.
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GLORIA OSTIRICH ALLRAGE AKA DMSO HERE.. TALKS A GOOD GAME IN DEFENSE OF WOMEN EVERYWHERE
HOW MUCH SHE CHARGES AN HOUR IS PROBABLY OUTRAGEOUS
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zoooming by...both my parents were in the medical field...but you sure as hell dont want me operating on you!! your post was about as asinine as anything i have read... the bottom line is that guys have spent their whole life refining the art of training a race horse and in come a snotty nosed kid (boy or girl) and wins at an outrageous rate i have been in this sport for 45 yrs and anybody with any horse sence can watch a trainer get in a jog cart and know if they are a fraud..just by the way they hop on the cart..this shit is a joke!!!
Well I do hope you weren't around when your parents were sticking their hands up patients ASSES!! This is a whole different ANIMAL! (pun intended)
Kids of horsemen & women are always around the barn. And guess what, THEY LEARN STUFF!! PERIOD!
Most of your Drivers & Trainers are from 2nd, 3rd, 4th Generations Ect.....
Did you even think about what you TYPED here.
11.dt :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
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GLORIA OSTIRICH ALLRAGE AKA DMSO HERE.. TALKS A GOOD GAME IN DEFENSE OF WOMEN EVERYWHERE
HOW MUCH SHE CHARGES AN HOUR IS PROBABLY OUTRAGEOUS
In defense of women? Huh? For the crime of what, being women? Ha! What else could you possibly be talking about? If you can demonstrate how any of the points I’ve made are false, then by all means do so and we’ll debate that. Otherwise keep your issues straight because there are just no wrongs being committed and no reason to bring sex or arbitrary gender roles into the discussion, but again, for self-seeking gratuitous purposes that actually delegitimize anything harness racing related being alleged about her. If you had something my guess is you’d argue that and simply stick with it, without interesting and ironically enough, being just about as cunty as it gets. I figure you’re just really insecure about women competing with and potentially showing you up, so you’re looking to chase them away with this farcical routine.
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zoooming by...both my parents were in the medical field...but you sure as hell dont want me operating on you!! your post was about as asinine as anything i have read... the bottom line is that guys have spent their whole life refining the art of training a race horse and in come a snotty nosed kid (boy or girl) and wins at an outrageous rate i have been in this sport for 45 yrs and anybody with any horse sence can watch a trainer get in a jog cart and know if they are a fraud..just by the way they hop on the cart..this shit is a joke!!!
Eh, I don’t know. I think Zoooooming by has a point. It can be just as specious to extrapolate from winning percentages being supposedly ‘outrageous’ as familial expertise, you know. Although a familial familiarity is definitely the more compelling of the two.
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In defense of women? Huh? For the crime of what, being women? Ha! What else could you possibly be talking about? If you can demonstrate how any of the points I’ve made are false, then by all means do so and we’ll debate that. Otherwise keep your issues straight because there are just no wrongs being committed and no reason to bring sex or arbitrary gender roles into the discussion, but again, for self-seeking gratuitous purposes that actually delegitimize anything harness racing related being alleged about her. If you had something my guess is you’d argue that and simply stick with it, without interesting and ironically enough, being just about as cunty as it gets. I figure you’re just really insecure about women competing with and potentially showing you up, so you’re looking to chase them away with this farcical routine.
YOUR PERCEPTION OF OTHERS HERE IS OF AN INFERIOR NATURE. THE NEED TO POSTULATE A "CORRECT" STANCE ON OTHERS OPINIONS REFLECTS THIS. NICE WORK. RESPONSE UNNEEDED UNLESS YOU CARE TO DEFINE "CUNTY".
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YOUR PERCEPTION OF OTHERS HERE IS OF AN INFERIOR NATURE. THE NEED TO POSTULATE A "CORRECT" STANCE ON OTHERS OPINIONS REFLECTS THIS. NICE WORK. RESPONSE UNNEEDED UNLESS YOU CARE TO DEFINE "CUNTY".
Kind of like asserting one's "need" to postulate correctness is? "Cunty": highly objectionable; unneeded.
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Kind of like asserting one's "need" to postulate correctness is? "Cunty": highly objectionable; unneeded.
A WORD THAT SUITS YOUR VOCABULARY, WHILE OTHERS REFRAIN FROM ITS USEAGE AS IT, OF ITSELF,IS HIGHLY OBJECTIONABLE AND UNNEEDED...IF WE PLAY BY YOUR RULES OF COURSE. PLEASE CORRECT ME AGAIN. I NEED GUIDANCE 73cv.2
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A WORD THAT SUITS YOUR VOCABULARY, WHILE OTHERS REFRAIN FROM ITS USEAGE AS IT, OF ITSELF,IS HIGHLY OBJECTIONABLE AND UNNEEDED...IF WE PLAY BY YOUR RULES OF COURSE. PLEASE CORRECT ME AGAIN. I NEED GUIDANCE 73cv.2
The word itself is fine; it's the fussiness of others, mostly in the backwards and uptight States of America the "free", that supposedly makes it so objectionable and unneeded.
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The word itself is fine; it's the fussiness of others, mostly in the backwards and uptight States of America the "free", that supposedly makes it so objectionable and unneeded.
IM NOT IN MISSISSIPPI OR ALABAMA AND I DONT PLAY THE BANJO EITHER
SORRY....ENOUGH ABOUT YOU, NOW LETS TALK ABOUT JEN SOME MORE....
THANKS FOR PUMMELLING ME ON THE SUBJECTS AT HAND AT ANY RATE tmbz1 I'M NOT OBJECTIVE, AND QUITE SIMPLY, JUST OBNOXIOUS. FORGIVE ME
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IM NOT IN MISSISSIPPI OR ALABAMA AND I DONT PLAY THE BANJO EITHER
SORRY....ENOUGH ABOUT YOU, NOW LETS TALK ABOUT JEN SOME MORE....
THANKS FOR PUMMELLING ME ON THE SUBJECTS AT HAND AT ANY RATE tmbz1 I'M NOT OBJECTIVE, AND QUITE SIMPLY, JUST OBNOXIOUS. FORGIVE ME
No problem, happy to oblige. ;D
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Well I do hope you weren't around when your parents were sticking their hands up patients ASSES!! This is a whole different ANIMAL! (pun intended)
Kids of horsemen & women are always around the barn. And guess what, THEY LEARN STUFF!! PERIOD!
Most of your Drivers & Trainers are from 2nd, 3rd, 4th Generations Ect.....
Did you even think about what you TYPED here.
11.dt :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Jens dad was expelled from the sport for what 10 years for drugging up a lot of horses you are right she apparently learned a few things from her dad thanks for pointing out the apple don't fall far from the tree
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And burke, besides sucking his head pole.
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Jens dad was expelled from the sport for what 10 years for drugging up a lot of horses you are right she apparently learned a few things from her dad thanks for pointing out the apple don't fall far from the tree
Sorry, that one isn’t valid either. All you have there is an assumption about her father that doesn’t actually say anything about her.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/10/Ad-Hominem-Guilt-by-Association
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Sorry, that one isn’t valid either. All you have there is an assumption about her father that doesn’t actually say anything about her.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/10/Ad-Hominem-Guilt-by-Association
Why are you responding to a thread I made in reference to zooming by where they said Jen is from a family of horseman when for the better part of Jens life her dad was not allowed to train horses in any state get a life bro and stay jelly
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who trains her horses?
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Why are you responding to a thread I made in reference to zooming by where they said Jen is from a family of horseman when for the better part of Jens life her dad was not allowed to train horses in any state get a life bro and stay jelly
First of all, you made the thread that says nothing about it being limited to a particular audience or only in reference to anything or anyone in particular? You did? Well fancy that. You still are arguing nonsense nevertheless, bro. Don’t view it as an embarrassment but an opportunity to learn something new, improve your reasoning skills, ethics and keep the jelly…Er, I mean bullshit to a minimum.
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hey lesbian what's up with all the big words?????
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hey lesbian what's up with all the big words?????
LIKE MOST BROADS IN HARNESS RACING, SHE NEEDS TO BE SEEN AND NOT HEARD, THIS INDUSTRY WAS MADE BY MEN, THE BROADS KNEW THEIR PLACE WAS AT HOME DOING CHORES,WASHING MY COLORS, SHINING MY BOOTS, MAKING HOT FOOD FOR THE STABLE HANDS THEN ALONG CAME OPRAH AND ALL THESE WOMEN START THINKING THEY ARE MANS EQUALS, EVEN BEA WOULDNT HAVE BEEN QUEEN SHIT WITHOUT CHARLIE. TODAYS WOMEN WANT TO CALL THE SHOTS WITHOUT DOING THE DIRTY WORK. THANK GOD THAT BROAD DIDNT WIN THE WHITE HOUSE OR GOD HELP US ALL. LOOK AT THAT DANICA BROAD IN NASCAR, THERE TO MAKE A FEW BUCKS, BUT SHE DIDNT WIN SHIT. BUT ONE THING ABOUT DANICA... AND THAT JENN CHICK
(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/Id_hit_it.gif)
AND YOU CAN TELL HER, AND THE Ms Oh my god chick
THAT BIG DADDY sAID SO
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I know a few trainers whos wife's cooked up a little more then a hot suppah for the help 11.bz :1 11.tb 11.a 11.tfk 19z.az 51za.brod O0
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She is taking the game to new heights . love the smile and that tight ass honestly , makes going to the paddock alot better.
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She is taking the game to new heights . love the smile and that tight ass honestly , makes going to the paddock alot better.
Maybe you should talk pants into going back to Yonkers and freehold then you can stare at his wife and JENN both
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Ustrotting saw this thread and immediately put up story on Julie Miller I personally think women will be the ones to turn this sport around go get em ladies
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"THIS INDUSTRY WAS MADE BY MEN" ..........is that why it is in the state it is? Maybe we should turn it over to the woman, to re-invent the industry?
I vote MsO as the leader
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I vote MsO as the leader
Did you slip on the ice and smash you head today, Yonkers?
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LIKE MOST BROADS IN HARNESS RACING, SHE NEEDS TO BE SEEN AND NOT HEARD, THIS INDUSTRY WAS MADE BY MEN, THE BROADS KNEW THEIR PLACE WAS AT HOME DOING CHORES,WASHING MY COLORS, SHINING MY BOOTS, MAKING HOT FOOD FOR THE STABLE HANDS THEN ALONG CAME OPRAH AND ALL THESE WOMEN START THINKING THEY ARE MANS EQUALS, EVEN BEA WOULDNT HAVE BEEN QUEEN SHIT WITHOUT CHARLIE. TODAYS WOMEN WANT TO CALL THE SHOTS WITHOUT DOING THE DIRTY WORK. THANK GOD THAT BROAD DIDNT WIN THE WHITE HOUSE OR GOD HELP US ALL. LOOK AT THAT DANICA BROAD IN NASCAR, THERE TO MAKE A FEW BUCKS, BUT SHE DIDNT WIN SHIT. BUT ONE THING ABOUT DANICA... AND THAT JENN CHICK
(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/Id_hit_it.gif)
AND YOU CAN TELL HER, AND THE Ms Oh my god chick
THAT BIG DADDY sAID SO
Ha ha - Oh boy. So that was being directed at me and my really pretty average vocabulary, was it? Well, maybe not for this forum… but out in the world. How funny. You know, god! Open a book sometime. But I’ve gone and disobeyed the lady rules again. And now oh noes, I’ve been called a lesbian. That’s so hurtful because I guess that means I won’t be liked or paid attention to by anyone. But for… I don’t know…other lesbians? Or something. It’s only okay for women to be into each other when done for the pleasure of men, too, of course. Don’t I know my place and the consequences of stepping outside of the fickle lines drawn for me by now? Ya fucking morons. Get a clue. What is it you think? I’m just going to acquiesce and make like a delicate flower to be more pleasing to anonymous misogynists on internet forums so they’ll pay attention to, validate and like me? Wasn’t it already the implication made here that I basically do only try to physically, rather than intellectually appeal, being one of the criticisms I’ve received - and because offensive? Oh but now I suppose I’m not doing the former enough and that pisses you off, too. Think of the hubris and profound insecurity suggested by your having those expectations. You know that makes you the unappealing ones, right? But back it seems we are again to women supposedly not doing their own sexuality right and in accordance with the rules dictated to us by men and their obedient counterparts, in hopes of controlling the rule breakers and conversation, right? We’re getting too much dick one day - depending on the issue you want to take with us, of course – or it seems now we’re not getting ENOUGH dick the next. I thought we covered this general idea already in another thread. But for the slow learners out there, just make up your minds. You really don’t get to have it both ways. Do try and remember this.
Ah but anyway, now I get to have my fun. You must have “heard” me if you picked up on who Superfecta was directing that at and took the time to formulate this entire assessment, huh, “Crawford”? “Seen and not heard” my ass! You’re so full of it with your self-contradictions. I really had to wonder about you, now that you’ve made so many efforts to call yourself to my attention, though… Do many people buy into the whole “broads belong in the kitchen making their mens sammiches” routine? And does it thoroughly convince them that you’re a man rather than woman overcompensating to conceal her identity? Being discovered must really be of some concern considering the pains you take. Your persona has undergone a bit of an evolution since its inception here, ya know. You might want to give some thought to tightening that up a bit. tmbz1 Personalities aren't normally fluid but fixed.
In addition, it’s quite frankly just not all that common to read a person confusing and misusing the adverb ‘too’ for the preposition ‘to’. ‘To’ in the place of ‘too’ maybe, sure. All of the time, in fact. But I personally think it’s exceedingly rare to see it in the reverse. It’s even a fairly significant and distinctive anomaly I’d venture to say. You don’t even do it all that often, but for every now and then. Likely relative to your mood or emotions at the time, say when you’re flustered, it does have a way of pathologically sneaking its way in there. That’s something else you might want to pay more attention too. j/k, I couldn’t help myself. :P I would have considered that it’s one of those innocuous things that oily people guarding their anonymity just do in order to misdirect people, like typing in CAPS LOCK or absurdly misspelling and abbreviating every other word, but no. You do it when you’re posting as yourself too. Just something I thought you might like to be made aware of there…
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Ha ha - Oh boy. So that was being directed at me and my really pretty average vocabulary, was it? Well, maybe not for this forum… but out in the world. How funny. You know, god! Open a book sometime. But I’ve gone and disobeyed the lady rules again. And now oh noes, I’ve been called a lesbian. That’s so hurtful because I guess that means I won’t be liked or paid attention to by anyone. But for… I don’t know…other lesbians? Or something. It’s only okay for women to be into each other when done for the pleasure of men, too, of course. Don’t I know my place and the consequences of stepping outside of the fickle lines drawn for me by now? Ya fucking morons. Get a clue. What is it you think? I’m just going to acquiesce and make like a delicate flower to be more pleasing to anonymous misogynists on internet forums so they’ll pay attention to, validate and like me? Wasn’t it already the implication made here that I basically do only try to physically, rather than intellectually appeal, being one of the criticisms I’ve received - and because offensive? Oh but now I suppose I’m not doing the former enough and that pisses you off, too. Think of the hubris and profound insecurity suggested by your having those expectations. You know that makes you the unappealing ones, right? But back it seems we are again to women supposedly not doing their own sexuality right and in accordance with the rules dictated to us by men and their obedient counterparts, in hopes of controlling the rule breakers and conversation, right? We’re getting too much dick one day - depending on the issue you want to take with us, of course – or it seems now we’re not getting ENOUGH dick the next. I thought we covered this general idea already in another thread. But for the slow learners out there, just make up your minds. You really don’t get to have it both ways. Do try and remember this.
Ah but anyway, now I get to have my fun. You must have “heard” me if you picked up on who Superfecta was directing that at and took the time to formulate this entire assessment, huh, “Crawford”? “Seen and not heard” my ass! You’re so full of it with your self-contradictions. I really had to wonder about you, now that you’ve made so many efforts to call yourself to my attention, though… Do many people buy into the whole “broads belong in the kitchen making their mens sammiches” routine? And does it thoroughly convince them that you’re a man rather than woman overcompensating to conceal her identity? Being discovered must really be of some concern considering the pains you take. Your persona has undergone a bit of an evolution since its inception here, ya know. You might want to give some thought to tightening that up a bit. tmbz1 Personalities aren't normally fluid but fixed.
In addition, it’s quite frankly just not all that common to read a person confusing and misusing the adverb ‘too’ for the preposition ‘to’. ‘To’ in the place of ‘too’ maybe, sure. All of the time, in fact. But I personally think it’s exceedingly rare to see it in the reverse. It’s even a fairly significant and distinctive anomaly I’d venture to say. You don’t even do it all that often, but for every now and then. Likely relative to your mood or emotions at the time, say when you’re flustered, it does have a way of pathologically sneaking its way in there. That’s something else you might want to pay more attention too. j/k, I couldn’t help myself. :P I would have considered that it’s one of those innocuous things that oily people guarding their anonymity just do in order to misdirect people, like typing in CAPS LOCK or absurdly misspelling and abbreviating every other word, but no. You do it when you’re posting as yourself too. Just something I thought you might like to be made aware of there…
you got a dirty mind
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TO MUCH DICK OR NOT ENOUGH?
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If I wanted to read War and Peace for the second time. I would. You are so full of hot air I am surprised you're not used at football games to fill up the Goodyear blimp.
Oh, well, gosh. I’m sorry. You know how your opinion is very important to me and everything, but I must have missed the part where I was asking whether or not you wanted to read it. And neither do I much require of your permission in order to ask it. If you don’t want to read it, here’s an idea: fucking don’t. But it’s a little peculiar to read it, seeing its length, and then whine about it after the fact, no?
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Don't flatter yourself. I never read anything you write. I have self respect.
I might beg to differ. Because then how would you know what you're talking about; agree or disagree with? Or do you just decline reading anything that would require the attention span greater than that of a 5 year old, leaving similar posts in response to them? If you're not terribly informed, because it's suggested you don't read anything of substance or length, then why would you think your opinions are informed enough to be terribly valuable - and enough so to offer them, speaking of having over-inflated opinions of one's self? That also makes your self-respect claim a little questionable too.
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I might beg to differ. Because then how would you know what you're talking about; agree or disagree with? Or do you just decline reading anything that would require the attention span greater than that of a 5 year old, leaving similar posts in response to them? If you're not terribly informed, because it's suggested you don't read anything of substance or length, then why would you think your opinions are informed enough to be terribly valuable - and enough so to offer them, speaking of having over-inflated opinions of one's self? That also makes your self-respect claim a little questionable too.
whats your point
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Ha ha - Oh boy. So that was being directed at me and my really pretty average vocabulary, was it? Well, maybe not for this forum… but out in the world. How funny. You know, god! Open a book sometime. But I’ve gone and disobeyed the lady rules again. And now oh noes, I’ve been called a lesbian. That’s so hurtful because I guess that means I won’t be liked or paid attention to by anyone. But for… I don’t know…other lesbians? Or something. It’s only okay for women to be into each other when done for the pleasure of men, too, of course. Don’t I know my place and the consequences of stepping outside of the fickle lines drawn for me by now? Ya fucking morons. Get a clue. What is it you think? I’m just going to acquiesce and make like a delicate flower to be more pleasing to anonymous misogynists on internet forums so they’ll pay attention to, validate and like me? Wasn’t it already the implication made here that I basically do only try to physically, rather than intellectually appeal, being one of the criticisms I’ve received - and because offensive? Oh but now I suppose I’m not doing the former enough and that pisses you off, too. Think of the hubris and profound insecurity suggested by your having those expectations. You know that makes you the unappealing ones, right? But back it seems we are again to women supposedly not doing their own sexuality right and in accordance with the rules dictated to us by men and their obedient counterparts, in hopes of controlling the rule breakers and conversation, right? We’re getting too much dick one day - depending on the issue you want to take with us, of course – or it seems now we’re not getting ENOUGH dick the next. I thought we covered this general idea already in another thread. But for the slow learners out there, just make up your minds. You really don’t get to have it both ways. Do try and remember this.
Ah but anyway, now I get to have my fun. You must have “heard” me if you picked up on who Superfecta was directing that at and took the time to formulate this entire assessment, huh, “Crawford”? “Seen and not heard” my ass! You’re so full of it with your self-contradictions. I really had to wonder about you, now that you’ve made so many efforts to call yourself to my attention, though… Do many people buy into the whole “broads belong in the kitchen making their mens sammiches” routine? And does it thoroughly convince them that you’re a man rather than woman overcompensating to conceal her identity? Being discovered must really be of some concern considering the pains you take. Your persona has undergone a bit of an evolution since its inception here, ya know. You might want to give some thought to tightening that up a bit. tmbz1 Personalities aren't normally fluid but fixed.
In addition, it’s quite frankly just not all that common to read a person confusing and misusing the adverb ‘too’ for the preposition ‘to’. ‘To’ in the place of ‘too’ maybe, sure. All of the time, in fact. But I personally think it’s exceedingly rare to see it in the reverse. It’s even a fairly significant and distinctive anomaly I’d venture to say. You don’t even do it all that often, but for every now and then. Likely relative to your mood or emotions at the time, say when you’re flustered, it does have a way of pathologically sneaking its way in there. That’s something else you might want to pay more attention too. j/k, I couldn’t help myself. :P I would have considered that it’s one of those innocuous things that oily people guarding their anonymity just do in order to misdirect people, like typing in CAPS LOCK or absurdly misspelling and abbreviating every other word, but no. You do it when you’re posting as yourself too. Just something I thought you might like to be made aware of there…
tmbz1
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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
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SO TYPICAL OF THE CUNTS IN TODAYS MOVEMENTS, ALL TALK. BLAH FUCKING BLAH.
YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT I THINK OF THE METOO MOVEMENT?
I GOT A NUMBER TWO MOVEMENT FOR YOU
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I guess this thread has basically become, man against woman. My mother, wife and daughter would be so proud to see these comments. So, if you dont have enough of intelligence to discuss the topic, just try to fine a vulnerability, which has nothing to do with the topic, and attack that. Wow, that is so macho. I guess alot on here must have had bad mothers, wives, ex-wives, or daughters, so they are sour about it, and find it easy to just blame the females for all their shortcomings.
dave,are you serious
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Once again, I don't read your posts. When my girlfriend comes up for air, she reads them to me. I have more substantial things to do with my time, such as watching paint dry.
If you insist, lady. And yet you keep inexplicably replying to these posts you “haven’t read”, though that doesn’t exactly square. But hey, it’s your story. By all means stick to it. And maybe you were just out of more substantial things to do like, say, looking up big words in you thesaurus, twiddling your thumbs, watching paint dry or cleaning toilets. We’ll give you a pass this once and let you figure out how to better get that story to align with your actions. It’s difficult sometimes for mindless broads on social media just wanting to be seen and not heard. I get it. All that thinking stuff is hard, man! And unfortunately for you, you’ve decided that the only way to be heard is to pretend to BE a man. And all the while doing your best to keep women from being heard with the sexist tropes that you employ for your immediate benefit, too. Isn’t that pretty selfish and a lot like punching yourself in the face at the same time? But again, thinking is hard, man!
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I guess this thread has basically become, man against woman. My mother, wife and daughter would be so proud to see these comments. So, if you dont have enough of intelligence to discuss the topic, just try to fine a vulnerability, which has nothing to do with the topic, and attack that. Wow, that is so macho. I guess alot on here must have had bad mothers, wives, ex-wives, or daughters, so they are sour about it, and find it easy to just blame the females for all their shortcomings.
Some men and some of their female subordinates with deep-seated insecurity issues of their own. Bad parenting in general is to blame for that, not necessarily just by mothers though.
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burke ruined racing
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Some men and some of their female subordinates with deep-seated insecurity issues of their own. Bad parenting in general is to blame for that, not necessarily just by mothers though.
And along comes some knowitall broads to psycho analyze everyone and of course they think they are always correct in their opinions, when in fact it is just an opine, nothing more, and in most cases, a whole lot less
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And along comes some knowitall broads to psycho analyze everyone and of course they think they are always correct in their opinions, when in fact it is just an opine, nothing more, and in most cases, a whole lot less
thanks dan
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Let's reel all this nonsense back in. Clearly, MdO doesn't understand the difference between a forum and a blog.
A forum starts with a topic started by a poster and then other posters are able to comment....short answers.
A blog is where someone makes a much longer dissertation, like MsO and others can leave a comment.
I quite frankly lose interest 2 sentences in and might read her last sentence.
Start your own BLOG MsO......your intellegencia, if that, is wasted here. Short answers or comments are all that is needed
Thanks
YES
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Let's reel all this nonsense back in. Clearly, MdO doesn't understand the difference between a forum and a blog.
A forum starts with a topic started by a poster and then other posters are able to comment....short answers.
A blog is where someone makes a much longer dissertation, like MsO and others can leave a comment.
I quite frankly lose interest 2 sentences in and might read her last sentence.
Start your own BLOG MsO......your intellegencia, if that, is wasted here. Short answers or comments are all that is needed
Thanks
There is no difference relative to length of entries between those two in particular but for maybe the reverse order of what you’re suggesting. Perhaps it’s you who is unclear on their definitions. But my usage is closer to forum than blog, indeed…
Forum
ˈfôrəm/
noun
noun: forum; plural noun: forums; plural noun: fora
1. 1.
a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
"it will be a forum for consumers to exchange their views on medical research"
synonyms: meeting, assembly, gathering, rally, conference, seminar, convention, symposium, colloquium, caucus; More
Or perhaps you meant ‘internet forum’ specifically, in which case:
“An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages. They differ from chat rooms in that messages are often longer than one line of text, and are at least temporarily archived.”
Blog
bläɡ/
noun
noun: blog; plural noun: blogs
1. 1.
a regularly updated website or web page, typically one run by an individual or small group, that is written in an informal or conversational style.
Or if you’d rather:
“A blog (a truncation of the expression "weblog")[1] is a discussion or informational website published on the World Wide Web consisting of discrete, often informal diary-style text entries ("posts"). Posts are typically displayed in reverse chronological order, so that the most recent post appears first, at the top of the web page. Until 2009, blogs were usually the work of a single individual,[citation needed] occasionally of a small group, and often covered a single subject or topic. In the 2010s, "multi-author blogs" (MABs) have developed, with posts written by large numbers of authors and sometimes professionally edited. MABs from newspapers, other media outlets, universities, think tanks, advocacy groups, and similar institutions account for an increasing quantity of blog traffic. The rise of Twitter and other "microblogging" systems helps integrate MABs and single-author blogs into the news media. Blog can also be used as a verb, meaning to maintain or add content to a blog."
But I suggest you stop making it about yourself and your personal feelings. You're way off base.
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Had to Google and cut and paste, eh MsO??????? Anyone can cut and paste.
I feel confident, I speak what others just don't have the nerve to say.
Those are the definitions. I'm sorry you don't like them but you don't know what you are so bravely opening up your mouth to stupidly say. But good for you. Maybe others are just smart enough to know they aren't informed enough to speak on the topic they don't wish to derail rather than being cowards?
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MsO, It goes without saying if you had a husband he is long gone either by car or gunshot to the head. Horseplop member are running a over/under contest on how many cats live in your apartment. The number set by Vegas is 19. I took the over. Please answer us.
ITS ALL ABOUT US ACCORDING TO HER
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ITS ALL ABOUT US ACCORDING TO HER
If you're not speaking up when you see it happening you are agreeing with, implicitly granting your approval and permission, complicit and part of the problem, yes. I'm afraid so. Own it.
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If you're not speaking up when you see it happening you are agreeing with, implicitly granting your approval and permission, complicit and part of the problem, yes. I'm afraid so. Own it.
FRED, YOUR HUSBAND SAYS YOU LOVE IT IN THE ASS AND YOU LIKE IT ROUGH. IS HE TELLING THE TRUTH OR JUST LOCKER ROOM TALK?
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If you're not speaking up when you see it happening you are agreeing with, implicitly granting your approval and permission, complicit and part of the problem, yes. I'm afraid so. Own it.
OWN THIS....CALLING PEOPLE STUPID DAILY IS BORING, NO?
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You are one SAD know it all, but know nothing. There are many definitions, but you just happened to choose what fits your needs.
The mere fact you had to Google and cut and paste, indicates your stupidity. But hey, that's ok....
Carry on.
Obviously I love being educated on issues. So by all means, educate me with those facts. If you can't copy and paste to support your claims, without support or that ability, you have no business saying a word until you do.
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Obviously I love being educated on issues. So by all means, educate me with those facts. If you can't copy and paste to support your claims, without support or that ability, you have no business saying a word until you do.
you just lie in real life?
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Obviously I love being educated on issues. So by all means, educate me with those facts. If you can't copy and paste to support your claims, without support or that ability, you have no business saying a word until you do.
I can educate you on ms bongiorno. SHE is NO trainer. She comes from a family that cheats. I can guarantee she couldn't come within 10 seconds of a timed training mile. She does NOT have many miles on a jog cart. Her father received a 10 year suspension for nefarious acts to harness racing. Her familys trainers have had positive tests.
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I'm not sure what's worse: Hillbilly ignorant posts or Mso's autistic walls of text. Ever hear of being pithy?
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I'm not sure what's worse: Hillbilly ignorant posts or Mso's autistic walls of text. Ever hear of being pithy?
MINE ARE WORSE...IS PITHY LIKE TALKS TO MUCH?
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you just lie in real life?
How many alternate realities would you estimate you’re wrestling with at any one point in time, there, Pig?
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I can educate you on ms bongiorno. SHE is NO trainer. She comes from a family that cheats. I can guarantee she couldn't come within 10 seconds of a timed training mile. She does NOT have many miles on a jog cart. Her father received a 10 year suspension for nefarious acts to harness racing. Her familys trainers have had positive tests.
That's an altogether separate issue I'm willing to hear anyone out on that can present a cogent and valid argument. Her family's positives are moot, however. Guilt by association does not qualify as being "cogent and valid". It's not an arguable and persuasive point.
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I'm not sure what's worse: Hillbilly ignorant posts or Mso's autistic walls of text. Ever hear of being pithy?
is she a lesbian and if so do you think she'll do porn?
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How many alternate realities would you estimate you’re wrestling with at any one point in time, there, Pig?
just me
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MINE ARE WORSE...IS PITHY LIKE TALKS TO MUCH?
No, the opposite. Being precise and concise with your words. S
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MINE ARE WORSE...IS PITHY LIKE TALKS TO MUCH?
Who? Who is 'Much'?
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Who? Who is 'Much'?
ngc3
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That's an altogether separate issue I'm willing to hear anyone out on that can present a cogent and valid argument. Her family's positives are moot, however. Guilt by association does not qualify as being "cogent and valid". It's not an arguable and persuasive point.
IF you watch her ACTUALLY sit behind a horse, you would see immediately that she has VERY little idea of what she is doing. She is a reality star wannabe. Ask ANYONE who knows the family HOW MANY HORSES LEGS she has rubbed. How many bandages she has applied. Ask her just about anything that a normal trainer would know, and she has NO clue about it. In fact, I doubt she could put a harness and bridle on by herself.
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IF you watch her ACTUALLY sit behind a horse, you would see immediately that she has VERY little idea of what she is doing. She is a reality star wannabe. Ask ANYONE who knows the family HOW MANY HORSES LEGS she has rubbed. How many bandages she has applied. Ask her just about anything that a normal trainer would know, and she has NO clue about it. In fact, I doubt she could put a harness and bridle on by herself.
Seems like you know her better than me. Whatever they are doing or who's doing what they are making money right now, so its working.
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Seems like you know her better than me. Whatever they are doing or who's doing what they are making money right now, so its working.
I know people who are very aware of that situation. You DO know who her Mother is don't you? Her father got a 10 year suspension for "nefarious acts to harness racing". STILL think that operation is honest?
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If I wanted to read War and Peace for the second time. I would. You are so full of hot air I am surprised you're not used at football games to fill up the Goodyear blimp.
She is auditioning to be the NANCY LALAPELOSI of the print media. A literary filibuster if it were.
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IF you watch her ACTUALLY sit behind a horse, you would see immediately that she has VERY little idea of what she is doing. She is a reality star wannabe. Ask ANYONE who knows the family HOW MANY HORSES LEGS she has rubbed. How many bandages she has applied. Ask her just about anything that a normal trainer would know, and she has NO clue about it. In fact, I doubt she could put a harness and bridle on by herself.
I see. Do you see; however, that that is not the argument I am partaking with? Not in any way, shape or form.
Nothing about what I am presenting threatens what you are. The posts I’m arguing against do nothing to substantiate or strengthen your argument. The ones that I am taking a position against, in fact, only weaken the one you are here making. And if that’s indeed the issue you have, then your issue isn’t really with Jenn Bongiorno. It’s with the regulatory body that licensed her in the first place, as I would say it’s far less than rigorous and virtuous, if you will. Because if what you say is true, she never should have passed the test, now should she have? THAT is what you ought to be arguing and addressing as she would be a consequence of it but not the problem itself. You certainly don't want to advocate for any extraneous arguments about her sex life and sexuality that only serve to dilute your points and distract from them. That being said, you should probably even be just as much opposed to them as I am. And if you’re willing to put some effort into moderating a thread about it yourself to keep all the riff raff and nonsense out of it to keep it on track, I would be glad to discuss that, and just that, rationally with you.
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I know people who are very aware of that situation. You DO know who her Mother is don't you? Her father got a 10 year suspension for "nefarious acts to harness racing". STILL think that operation is honest?
May not be honest, but they are getting the purse checks deposited into their bank accounts. Barbara, no not really. I know Joe because I raced with him in the past.
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burke ruined racing
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Along with Allard and a few others
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Amazing that she is all or nothing..... Saturday she put 5 horses out at M1/Yonkers and all of the took some form of wagering action.... NONE of them hit the board.... Ville Vale and Rubber Duck were both completely empty at odds on. HMMMMMMM..... missing something ????
When you are using "THE JUICE" you can't use it every week. Got to pick and choose your races. And sometimes the horse is in easy enough, you can win or race good without it.
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Rubber Duck got the parking of his life.
Parked by Parker 73cv.2
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May not be honest, but they are getting the purse checks deposited into their bank accounts. Barbara, no not really. I know Joe because I raced with him in the past.
Check into WHO is Barbaras father. Ask around. He's rolling in his grave. Poor guy.
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Everyone knows it was Sonny Dancer .
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MAYBE Zooooooing By! doesn't. Hopefully he does NOW. ;D ;D
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Her sister BTW is Linda Condon , was another fine looking lady back in the day.
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*Sighs heavily*
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/10/Ad-Hominem-Guilt-by-Association
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MAYBE Zooooooing By! doesn't. Hopefully he does NOW. ;D ;D
Actually I did (Must have been having a bad night, lol). I bought a couple of horses off Sonny. Great Guy!!! No legacy for the Dancers. When you looked up Harness Racing back in the day, you would see pictures of all the Dancer Generations.
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The CIA should send you to Guantanamo Bay to torture captured Taliban and ISIS members. All they have to do is throw you in a room with them and have you start talking and I guarantee the prisoners would reveal everything just to have you stop.
Oh cry me a river. You’re just sounding pathetic now. I mean, you whine about my posts like you’re being forced to read them rather than are choosing to. C’mon, you know it’s the content getting under your skin but have no other way of arguing against it than to come up some half-baked and juvenile ad hominem whiney complaint about me. Sure, because if you can’t articulate a cogent rebuttal to an argument you disagree or just don’t like, you attack the source of the material instead, completely ignoring its substance. You’re so accustomed to and dumbed-down by this forum, that lazy tactic must just strike you as a completely reasonable and normal end-run.
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Oh cry me a river. You’re just sounding pathetic now. I mean, you whine about my posts like you’re being forced to read them rather than are choosing to. C’mon, you know it’s the content getting under your skin but have no other way of arguing against it than to come up some half-baked and juvenile ad hominem whiney complaint about me. Sure, because if you can’t articulate a cogent rebuttal to an argument you disagree or just don’t like, you attack the source of the material instead, completely ignoring its substance. You’re so accustomed to and dumbed-down by this forum, that lazy tactic must just strike you as a completely reasonable and normal end-run.
DID THEY REALLY FAKE/FORGE A TCO2 TEST?
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Oh cry me a river. You’re just sounding pathetic now. I mean, you whine about my posts like you’re being forced to read them rather than are choosing to. C’mon, you know it’s the content getting under your skin but have no other way of arguing against it than to come up some half-baked and juvenile ad hominem whiney complaint about me. Sure, because if you can’t articulate a cogent rebuttal to an argument you disagree or just don’t like, you attack the source of the material instead, completely ignoring its substance. You’re so accustomed to and dumbed-down by this forum, that lazy tactic must just strike you as a completely reasonable and normal end-run.
Your writing turns me on
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DID THEY REALLY FAKE/FORGE A TCO2 TEST?
Well I suppose since evidentiary documents were altered you could say those were ‘forged’ in a certain sense. As in “to make or imitate falsely especially with intent to defraud : COUNTERFEIT
-forge a document
-forge a signature”, so not terribly wrong to use. But I don’t know if forge is exactly the word that I would choose in respect to that blackbox positive. Maybe concoct. I think I used the word 'fabricate' myself, didn't I? I'm guessing you're possibly even more outraged that I'm speaking out about it happening than you are that it happened in the first place, so you’re intentionally minimizing it. That would be so typical of horsemen who cling desperately to their beliefs that they want so much to believe, despite inconvenient evidence demonstrating it for them that they're illegitimate beliefs. Good thing you're willing to ignore that, though, right?
Incidentally, I’m glad you made me curious and I went back over to read what I’d written in that Burke thread, because I’d typed it out so quickly yesterday that I didn’t have time to review it. Or edit, from all appearances. Doing so brought to mind that the same Dr. Sams from the OSU toxicology lab who’d tested that sample and, oopsie, ‘threw out’ the necessary hand-written calculations for converting the parameters of a sample tested on the piece of equipment he was using for human testing into that of an equine sample; the Sam Dr. Sams who originated the test for Aminorex but made some mistakes including not first publishing it for peer review, that did a lot of harm to a lot of people? Yeah, him. Well he was the same toxicologist who also ‘threw away’ the blood sample from Bob Belcher’s morphine derivative positive preventing him from obtaining a split sample to be tested at another lab and resulting in his suspension. And that would have been the SAME sample that was tested not one, not 2 but 3 separate times: the first resulting in a negative and the subsequent two in ever increasing amounts of the substance before a positive could even be called. Interesting coincidences, no? The man was either a complete bumbling idiot or an unethical liar with an axe to grind with a convenient excuse of throwing evidence away that he was allowed to get away with at a disturbing rate. But I bet you’re glad that you brought this all up again just to harass me about. :P I mean, some people here might not have been around back in the day I posted all of the court transcripts outlining those events to the now defunct Junior’s message board and wouldn’t know that. So phew - that was close!
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Well I suppose since evidentiary documents were altered you could say those were ‘forged’ in a certain sense. As in “to make or imitate falsely especially with intent to defraud : COUNTERFEIT
-forge a document
-forge a signature”, so not terribly wrong to use. But I don’t know if forge is exactly the word that I would choose in respect to that blackbox positive. Maybe concoct. I think I used the word 'fabricate' myself, didn't I? I'm guessing you're possibly even more outraged that I'm speaking out about it happening than you are that it happened in the first place, so you’re intentionally minimizing it. That would be so typical of horsemen who cling desperately to their beliefs that they want so much to believe, despite inconvenient evidence demonstrating it for them that they're illegitimate beliefs. Good thing you're willing to ignore that, though, right?
FYI: WE HAVE DERAILED THIS THREAD LONG ENOUGH..CAN YOU PLEASE BEGIN ANOTHER THREAD FOR US?
Incidentally, I’m glad you made me curious and I went back over to read what I’d written in that Burke thread, because I’d typed it out so quickly yesterday that I didn’t have time to review it. Or edit, from all appearances. Doing so brought to mind that the same Dr. Sams from the OSU toxicology lab who’d tested that sample and, oopsie, ‘threw out’ the necessary hand-written calculations for converting the parameters of a sample tested on the piece of equipment he was using for human testing into that of an equine sample; the Sam Dr. Sams who originated the test for Aminorex but made some mistakes including not first publishing it for peer review, that did a lot of harm to a lot of people? Yeah, him. Well he was the same toxicologist who also ‘threw away’ the blood sample from Bob Belcher’s morphine derivative positive preventing him from obtaining a split sample to be tested at another lab and resulting in his suspension. And that would have been the SAME sample that was tested not one, not 2 but 3 separate times: the first resulting in a negative and the subsequent two in ever increasing amounts of the substance before a positive could even be called. Interesting coincidences, no? The man was either a complete bumbling idiot or an unethical liar with an axe to grind with a convenient excuse of throwing evidence away that he was allowed to get away with at a disturbing rate. But I bet you’re glad that you brought this all up again just to harass me about. :P I mean, some people here might not have been around back in the day I posted all of the court transcripts outlining those events to the now defunct Junior’s message board and wouldn’t know that. So phew - that was close!
You make many erroneous assumptions, including how upset I am about you mentioning it. In fact, I could care less. I happen to find it amusing, your choice of words that is, given how hard you try to be concise and clear in every paragragh you put out. You did indeed say that the results of test were "fabricated". THAT IS NOT A BROAD BRUSH STROKE, BUT A DECLARATION. Your words, Mellissa, not ours. Your beef isn't with anyone in particular here, but wanting to be heard on the subject is going on ad nauseum....carry on.
ENOUGH DERAILING...ANOTH ER THREAD PERHAPS?
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You make many erroneous assumptions, including how upset I am about you mentioning it. In fact, I could care less. I happen to find it amusing, your choice of words that is, given how hard you try to be concise and clear in every paragragh you put out. You did indeed say that the results of test were "fabricated". THAT IS NOT A BROAD BRUSH STROKE, BUT A DECLARATION. Your words, Mellissa, not ours. Your beef isn't with anyone in particular here, but wanting to be heard on the subject is going on ad nauseum....carry on.
ENOUGH DERAILING...ANOTH ER THREAD PERHAPS?
I try hard to be concise? Funny but that’s the exact opposite of the usual criticism I get here. I don’t “try hard” to be anything at all, in fact. I don’t care that I fit anyone else’s expectations or preferences than my own, speaking of erroneous assumptions being made. But why is the issue continually being made to be one about me if not to deflect from the content I’m posting, trying to keep it from being “heard”, huh? Tell me that. And if you in fact don’t want to hear about the subject “ad nauseum”, why bring it up in another topic altogether than the one it was posted? Methinks you’re being more than a little contradictory. Oh but it sounded so good at first to your own ear, huh? I suggest you just stick to the topic of your gripe with me. Because it IS with me that you have the gripe, isn’t it? And then maybe you wouldn’t get your stories crossed. Fabricated was indeed my word. I checked to verify that it was, yes. And only because you used a different one, not my own. Is that the issue you’re taking? That I called it what it was? Then talk about that. Why is it an issue you’re taking? And why not raise it in the thread it was posted to rather than this one you’re derailing? In fact, I was happy discussing OTHER subjects until YOU raised this subject about me in particular HERE and bringing it to the fore. If you didn’t want it discussed, why broach it at all – ad nauseum? Or post pictures of me, even? But suddenly now you can conveniently pretend I brought it up “wanting to be heard”. I guess that just suits your narrative better. That and “wanting to be seen”, sounding suddenly familiar…
So here’s an idea: if you don’t want to hear about it, STOP bringing it up! You have the power of solving your own problems that you whine on and on about. It’s easy, so maybe try it.
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I went back to see who'd posted what on the Burke thread Fat...er...boy. I posted the link you requested. You wanna discuss that link over in that thread, sure. I might have thought that would have been the obvious place to take up any issue you had since it was originally about a tco2 test anyhow. Go for it. Let's hear your argument against it. I'm all ears.
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I went back to see who'd posted what on the Burke thread Fat...er...boy. I posted the link you requested. You wanna discuss that link over in that thread, sure. I might have thought that would have been the obvious place to take up any issue you had since it was originally about a tco2 test anyhow. Go for it. Let's hear your argument against it. I'm all ears.
LISTEN CAREFULLY
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=I%2c+ME%2c+MINE&&view=detail&mid=DCF3740B274C1FC9A8F1DCF3740B274C1FC9A8F1&&FORM=VRDGAR
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LISTEN CAREFULLY
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=I%2c+ME%2c+MINE&&view=detail&mid=DCF3740B274C1FC9A8F1DCF3740B274C1FC9A8F1&&FORM=VRDGAR
Answer the questions: Is your problem with me that I talk to [sic] much or that I try being too concise? How can I even possibly take you seriously if you can’t keep your stories and criticisms straight? And what is the issue you’re taking with my discussing a tco2 blackbox positive in a thread about a tco2 overage that was derailed by making it about ME and MINE? If your issue is that it was made about me and mine, don’t you think the reasonable thing to do is take that up with the people actually doing so? Be constructive and consistent for a change. Why is that an issue for you that I discussed it once it was brought up? Let’s go over there and we’ll discuss it rationally, and as honestly as anyone trying to conceal their identity can at any rate.
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Answer the questions: Is your problem with me that I talk to [sic] much or that I try being too concise? How can I even possibly take you seriously if you can’t keep your stories and criticisms straight? And what is the issue you’re taking with my discussing a tco2 blackbox positive in a thread about a tco2 overage that was derailed by making it about ME and MINE? If your issue is that it was made about me and mine, don’t you think the reasonable thing to do is take that up with the people actually doing so? Be constructive and consistent for a change. Why is that an issue for you that I discussed it once it was brought up? Let’s go over there and we’ll discuss it rationally, and as honestly as anyone trying to conceal their identity can at any rate.
ARE YOU ANOREXIC?
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ARE YOU ANOREXIC?
Nice try to cover for your failure to have reasonable answers for relevant to the conversation questions asked of you, but no. And besides, weren't you just griping about anything becoming about me? And now that's precisely what you're trying to do. How can anyone take you seriously with that kind of head-tipping inconsistency?
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Answer the questions: Is your problem with me that I talk to [sic] much or that I try being too concise? How can I even possibly take you seriously if you can’t keep your stories and criticisms straight? And what is the issue you’re taking with my discussing a tco2 blackbox positive in a thread about a tco2 overage that was derailed by making it about ME and MINE? If your issue is that it was made about me and mine, don’t you think the reasonable thing to do is take that up with the people actually doing so? Be constructive and consistent for a change. Why is that an issue for you that I discussed it once it was brought up? Let’s go over there and we’ll discuss it rationally, and as honestly as anyone trying to conceal their identity can at any rate.
You + conciseness aren't even in the same universe.
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You + conciseness aren't even in the same universe.
Because...?
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Nice try to cover for your failure to have reasonable answers for relevant to the conversation questions asked of you, but no. And besides, weren't you just griping about anything becoming about me? And now that's precisely what you're trying to do. How can anyone take you seriously with that kind of head-tipping inconsistency?
HOW DO YOU COVER THAT SKELETON?
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HOW DO YOU COVER THAT SKELETON?
I’m sorry but hadn’t somebody else here literally JUST tried making this about “me and mine” at the time you posted: a clear case of misdirecting and derailing that offends you greatly, and you’re not going to address that in your own, but somehow excusable alternate universe battle against it? But now I guess you actually WANT for me to talk about myself ad nauseam? Ha ha
Again, go to ACTUAL thread where the evolution of conversation raised the subject you only just yesterday were taking issue with, and if I find it pertinent I’ll be happy to discuss. My horse in that picture was all that was pertinent to that particular conversation, however. So as you would say, carry on…
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As far as I can tell, "Fatboy" and PPG, what you’re absolutely trying to deflect from and derail is any talk of that horse, what happened to him; and how the OHHA, Amy Hollar, OSRC and track failed horsemen and horses but actively protected an abusive, literally criminal horseman, making it about me, my body and…writing style, instead? Well okay then. And what exactly would your personal investment(s) be in relation to it all?
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I’m sorry but hadn’t somebody else here literally JUST tried making this about “me and mine” at the time you posted: a clear case of misdirecting and derailing that offends you greatly, and you’re not going to address that in your own, but somehow excusable alternate universe battle against it? But now I guess you actually WANT for me to talk about myself ad nauseam? Ha ha
Again, go to ACTUAL thread where the evolution of conversation raised the subject you only just yesterday were taking issue with, and if I find it pertinent I’ll be happy to discuss. My horse in that picture was all that was pertinent to that particular conversation, however. So as you would say, carry on…
I CANT INSULT YOU AND GET RID OF YOU...WTF?
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As far as I can tell, "Fatboy" and PPG, what you’re absolutely trying to deflect from and derail is any talk of that horse, what happened to him; and how the OHHA, Amy Hollar, OSRC and track failed horsemen and horses but actively protected an abusive, literally criminal horseman, making it about me, my body and…writing style, instead? Well okay then. And what exactly would your personal investment(s) be in relation to it all?
who are you
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who are you
MELISSA
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Melissa Johnson
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Jen ....she's HOTT 91z.his 91z.his 91z.his
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Jen ....she's HOTT 91z.his 91z.his 91z.his
but does she take it in the shitter?
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https://youtu.be/7sOmKmHDYXE
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who are you
MELISSA
PISSY MISSY
BLANK OR CUNT FOR SHORT
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2 for 2 last night at Yawnkers
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once again bottom line however she is doing it shes winning races and is probably the hottest looking woman trainer in harness racing .
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BONGIORNO, JENNIFER L MANALAPAN, NJ YOB
1990
YR on 2/10/2018 FINED: $100
LEAVING PADDOCK EARLY
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BONGIORNO, JENNIFER L MANALAPAN, NJ YOB
1990
YR on 2/10/2018 FINED: $100
LEAVING PADDOCK EARLY
Big deal
Most of time it’s worth the fine
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BONGIORNO, JENNIFER L MANALAPAN, NJ YOB
1990
YR on 2/10/2018 FINED: $100
LEAVING PADDOCK EARLY
Guess it was VERY IMPORTANT that she leave the paddock where she is the "trainer" of the horses racing. What if something happened and the "trainer" had to make a split second decision? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
She just has to make sure she doesn't break a nail or let her hair get out of place. 73cv.2 73cv.2
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Because...?
because it takes you eons to make a point and you are not in the least bit pithy.
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because it takes you eons to make a point and you are not in the least bit pithy.
Oh for fucks sake! This thread had gotten back on track and here you are…again making it about me. Although I really think it’s entirely about you. Did you even bother reading what the quote you were answering was in RESPONSE TO before presuming to mansplain it, like an oblivious ass, to me? And hadn’t I ALREADY said it was funny because it was the opposite of what I’m generally criticized for, though being apropos of nothing, not even beginning to address let alone refute a thing that I’ve had to say - but I guess makes you feel better about yourself to criticize? Fatboy, to summarize it for you, told me: “I happen to find it amusing, your choice of words that is, given how hard you try to be concise and clear in every paragragh you put out.” about a minute after kvetching about me talking “too (sic) much” He/she/it called ME concise. Did you just entirely miss and forget to object to that because you were so busy being precious about me and my posts that you should just be skipping altogether? But I suppose if you have no way of articulating why you object to the content of my posts; the next best thing is to object to something about its messenger. All I can tell you is, get over it because it’s not changing anytime soon and I don’t give a good goddamn if you like it or not. Especially not if the subject I’m tackling is as nuanced as this one. I’m going to state my peace with it and cover the bases. I may not be PITHY, as if some kind of character trait I’m supposed to be ashamed of not being, but I am proudly and contentedly fastidious. Always have been, always will be. Now if you want to discuss Jenn Bongiorno like civilized human beings I would be happy to consider anything you have to say possessing of some merit. Otherwise, in case you didn’t think the video applied to you too, fuck off!
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Could all be put in a sentence or two, MsO.
tmbz1
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Could all be put in a sentence or two, MsO.
Not if you ask me, which is kind of the point. Nobody asked for your opinion or permission. I'm not changing anything because men whine about or don't like it. Neither, I expect, will any other woman with an ounce of self respect.
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I don't NEED permission to post here. Open FORUM.
Apparently I do, though you'd disagree, NEED to be more thorough because that's not even close to what I said, in all of 4 sentences. So I guess I just proved you wrong. 11.wp
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Not if you ask me, which is kind of the point. Nobody asked for your opinion or permission. I'm not changing anything because men whine about or don't like it. Neither, I expect, will any other woman with an ounce of self respect.
NOBODY AXED U
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AND THEY WONDER WHY GUYS BLACKEN THE EYES OF SOME WOMEN, PERHAPS THEY DESERVE IT. THEY WONT SHUT UP WHEN IT IS GOOD FOR THEM, AND JUST KEEP ON TELLING YOU THAT THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOU, SMARTER THAN YOU, KNOW MORE ABOUT EVERYTHING.
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AND THEY WONDER WHY GUYS BLACKEN THE EYES OF SOME WOMEN, PERHAPS THEY DESERVE IT. THEY WONT SHUT UP WHEN IT IS GOOD FOR THEM, AND JUST KEEP ON TELLING YOU THAT THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOU, SMARTER THAN YOU, KNOW MORE ABOUT EVERYTHING.
IM READY TO TOSS A CUP AT HER
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Oh for fucks sake! This thread had gotten back on track and here you are…again making it about me. Although I really think it’s entirely about you. Did you even bother reading what the quote you were answering was in RESPONSE TO before presuming to mansplain it, like an oblivious ass, to me? And hadn’t I ALREADY said it was funny because it was the opposite of what I’m generally criticized for, though being apropos of nothing, not even beginning to address let alone refute a thing that I’ve had to say - but I guess makes you feel better about yourself to criticize? Fatboy, to summarize it for you, told me: “I happen to find it amusing, your choice of words that is, given how hard you try to be concise and clear in every paragragh you put out.” about a minute after kvetching about me talking “too (sic) much” He/she/it called ME concise. Did you just entirely miss and forget to object to that because you were so busy being precious about me and my posts that you should just be skipping altogether? But I suppose if you have no way of articulating why you object to the content of my posts; the next best thing is to object to something about its messenger. All I can tell you is, get over it because it’s not changing anytime soon and I don’t give a good goddamn if you like it or not. Especially not if the subject I’m tackling is as nuanced as this one. I’m going to state my peace with it and cover the bases. I may not be PITHY, as if some kind of character trait I’m supposed to be ashamed of not being, but I am proudly and contentedly fastidious. Always have been, always will be. Now if you want to discuss Jenn Bongiorno like civilized human beings I would be happy to consider anything you have to say possessing of some merit. Otherwise, in case you didn’t think the video applied to you too, fuck off!
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Well I suppose since evidentiary documents were altered you could say those were ‘forged’ in a certain sense. As in “to make or imitate falsely especially with intent to defraud : COUNTERFEIT
-forge a document
-forge a signature”, so not terribly wrong to use. But I don’t know if forge is exactly the word that I would choose in respect to that blackbox positive. Maybe concoct. I think I used the word 'fabricate' myself, didn't I? I'm guessing you're possibly even more outraged that I'm speaking out about it happening than you are that it happened in the first place, so you’re intentionally minimizing it. That would be so typical of horsemen who cling desperately to their beliefs that they want so much to believe, despite inconvenient evidence demonstrating it for them that they're illegitimate beliefs. Good thing you're willing to ignore that, though, right?
Incidentally, I’m glad you made me curious and I went back over to read what I’d written in that Burke thread, because I’d typed it out so quickly yesterday that I didn’t have time to review it. Or edit, from all appearances. Doing so brought to mind that the same Dr. Sams from the OSU toxicology lab who’d tested that sample and, oopsie, ‘threw out’ the necessary hand-written calculations for converting the parameters of a sample tested on the piece of equipment he was using for human testing into that of an equine sample; the Sam Dr. Sams who originated the test for Aminorex but made some mistakes including not first publishing it for peer review, that did a lot of harm to a lot of people? Yeah, him. Well he was the same toxicologist who also ‘threw away’ the blood sample from Bob Belcher’s morphine derivative positive preventing him from obtaining a split sample to be tested at another lab and resulting in his suspension. And that would have been the SAME sample that was tested not one, not 2 but 3 separate times: the first resulting in a negative and the subsequent two in ever increasing amounts of the substance before a positive could even be called. Interesting coincidences, no? The man was either a complete bumbling idiot or an unethical liar with an axe to grind with a convenient excuse of throwing evidence away that he was allowed to get away with at a disturbing rate. But I bet you’re glad that you brought this all up again just to harass me about. :P I mean, some people here might not have been around back in the day I posted all of the court transcripts outlining those events to the now defunct Junior’s message board and wouldn’t know that. So phew - that was close!
Psychotic Bitch babble. this bitch and her pussy whipped 'other' have ruined many a message board in their day. Don't let this trap have her way. They cheated, they got caught. Fred Aboid, another used car salesman. Owned Arod, had Red go dead to set up some unusual payoffs to say the least/ I for one am glad the game has banished the both of them along with their 'Facebook friend' Bob, the then BLOB Belcher. She is worse than Howard Taylor, ever wished he could be
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Psychotic Bitch babble. this bitch and her pussy whipped 'other' have ruined many a message board in their day. Don't let this trap have her way. They cheated, they got caught. Fred Aboid, another used car salesman. Owned Arod, had Red go dead to set up some unusual payoffs to say the least/ I for one am glad the game has banished the both of them along with their 'Facebook friend' Bob, the then BLOB Belcher. She is worse than Howard Taylor, ever wished he could be
SPEAKING OF BLOB BELCHER, WHATEVER BECAME OF THE FENCING OPERATION HE WAS RUNNING OUT OF HIS FARM, AMAZING HOW MANY ITEMS THAT CAME UP MISSING WERE FOUND AT HIS FARM. I AM SURE MISSY WOULD CALL THAT MORE 'FAKE NEWS'
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BLOB BELCHER HAS TAKEN OVER THE THREAD THANX TO DMSO AND HER TALE TALES
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Again, attack the messenger when you can’t answer for yourself. That’s mighty big of you, PPG. There are so many spineless no-account cowards taking part in this thread, apparently insecure in their masculinity. And, of course, women who are just plain insecure and deserving mention. I had it right when I first posted to it: I am the only one here with any balls. Well, one of the only ones. Stevesara has them too. I have to give it up for him. He seems to be a decent person with a conscience on here not piling on just to seek acceptance. And further, has the courage to go against the grain when it’s the right thing to do. tmbz1
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SPEAKING OF BLOB BELCHER, WHATEVER BECAME OF THE FENCING OPERATION HE WAS RUNNING OUT OF HIS FARM, AMAZING HOW MANY ITEMS THAT CAME UP MISSING WERE FOUND AT HIS FARM. I AM SURE MISSY WOULD CALL THAT MORE 'FAKE NEWS'
Disclaimer: this is going to be longer than two sentences if you’re too dumb to figure that out for yourself, have a short attention span or are illiterate. Proceed only at your own risk and responsibility.
But, yeah! Good question. Whatever did happen to that? Doesn’t anyone ever wonder? What did they call it? ‘Biggest crime ring’ or whatever? Never indicted. Never mentioned again. So weird, huh? All of a sudden it stopped being newsworthy? How can that be? But I guess that WILL happen when sleepy community cops get all excited and alert the presses before asking if the bank actually owns the “stolen” farm equipment you have the payment books and make your monthly payments on because they are basically yours. There was, however, one stolen lawn mower bought off a derelict employee, who when busted, “flipped on” King-pin Belcher to make a deal for himself.
He had to go to court to get his property back, even things they owned out-right, which is crazy. But notice how it’s never been reported on or spoken of again. It never is when it’s the cops making mistakes or overzealously policing communities and victimizing citizens.
Not that I ever said anything was ‘fake news’. Much to the contrary, it’s all too very real. Real stories that had the villains all wrong, though. But I guess nobody else but me wants to discuss it because that isn’t as much fun when your biases aren’t being confirmed for you but majorly torpedoed instead. When the truth comes out there’s suddenly no outrage. And that’s bullshit from so-called “horsemen” and “truth and integrity seekers” just righting wrongs.! I really have to tell you: You’re bullshit.
Apparently nobody cares when it’s the authorities “cheating” and committing fraud. Or when self-seeking and I suspect self-dealing horsemen’s paid advocates, tracks and state agencies run cover for animal abusers, huh? Do you really want them free to roam the backstretch of racetracks? Because that’s what effectively happened when they never investigated it and blocked me from having it investigated by outside authorities.
But that’s okay. Attack me all you want. Attack my weight and the length of my posts because those are surely both huge character flaws and the real wrongs being done. Just as getting too much or not enough dick would be, right? The continued attacks against anything you can come up with just makes it abundantly clear that I’m the only one not ashamed of anything, deflecting or hiding from a single thing and being entirely answerable for myself. I see Amy’s minions are out in full force today though. Either that or they are all her. Straw man arguments and employing dummy accounts to back herself up and create distractions was always her thing before. I don’t see why she’d reform and suddenly become disinterested in gossipy harness message boards and honest now. Because that’s funny, right? It’s all harmless fun and she’s a funny woman. If I’m wrong she would step forward, take responsibility and answer honestly and publicly to it and never has, instead remaining conspicuously silent.
If I ruin this board, however, to wrap up what appears to be the balance of her baseless attacks that she and her mouth-pieces have used before, then so be it. It deserves to be ruined when there’s no accountability or moderation of it. It’ll only create a vacuum that maybe someone with character and integrity will start another board to fill. How bad could that really be?
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But, yeah! Good question. Whatever did happen to that? Doesn’t anyone ever wonder? What did they call it? ‘Biggest crime ring’ or whatever? Never indicted. Never mentioned again. So weird, huh? All of a sudden it stopped being newsworthy? How can that be?
This writing style is making my penis soft
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I SURE WISH SHE WOULD USE SOME SHORTER WORDS THAT US HILLBILLY HORSEMEN COULD UNDERSTAND. LOOKING THEM UP IN A DICTIONARY TAKES TOO MUCH TIME AND TAKES AWAY THE FREE HAND WHILE TAKING A DUMP
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I SURE WISH SHE WOULD USE SOME SHORTER WORDS THAT US HILLBILLY HORSEMEN COULD UNDERSTAND. LOOKING THEM UP IN A DICTIONARY TAKES TOO MUCH TIME AND TAKES AWAY THE FREE HAND WHILE TAKING A DUMP
So can we take bets? Lesbian or takes it in the ass? Lesbian 2/5, ass lover 2/1, non-sexual 5/1, Dan Nantz is it's true identity 8/1.
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So can we take bets? Lesbian or takes it in the ass? Lesbian 2/5, ass lover 2/1, non-sexual 5/1, Dan Nantz is it's true identity 8/1.
IN THE CAN IS CURRENTLY CHALK
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IN THE CAN IS CURRENTLY CHALK
https://www.facebook.com/melissa.blank.940
LISTENS TO
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvfprbZVq18xQ3kX-Jo_yvg
MARRIED TO A CAR SALESMAN WHO IS RUMORED TO BE AN ARAB TERRORIST
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God that woman MsO is verbose. Not to mention unnecessarily long winded and redundant. Educated and stupid at the same time. Hope this is the only post she comments on. Pain in the ass, annoying, and probably a two bagger.
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This mso doesn't seem to have anyone in her corner..and is quickly ruining this very popular thread.. so please go away..
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Hmmm...So popularity and validation sound like they're pretty important and necessary for a few here. That's nice. Weak-minded, sure. But still nice to know. Just as it's good to know what the sore subjects are around here that'll shut down threads. tmbz1
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Hmmm...So popularity and validation sound like they're pretty important and necessary for a few here. That's nice. Weak-minded, sure. But still nice to know. Just as it's good to know what the sore subjects are around here that'll shut down threads. tmbz1
MsO, Are you a Trainer or Owner or BOTH?
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Do not give a rats ass about being popular and a need to be validated. But multi paragraph responses through one's history sure seems to point in those two directions ngc3
If that’s truly the case then wouldn’t it make a whole lot more sense to go after and disagree with the posts implying something scandalous about that history necessitating of my forthrightness about it?
Your sensitivities don’t really appear to be in line with anything that’s being claimed.
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MsO, Are you a Trainer or Owner or BOTH?
Owned and worked almost exclusively on the farm in the past, which is to say my exposure to the back-side is limited. I may get back into it. But in the capacity of a trainer next time.
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Do not give a rats ass about being popular and a need to be validated. But multi paragraph responses through one's history sure seems to point in those two directions ngc3
ATTENTION WHORE?
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Bingo! You got it.
EXPOSURE TO BACKSIDE LIMITED IS QUESTIONABLE ALSO
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2018 #10. Money earning trainer as of today wow not bad for 1st year !
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WHAT ???????? The history is one of LONG DRAWN OUT dribble that makes the members of this forum want to throw up. Now go start your own forum that begs for books being spewed out on each topic tmbz1
Like I said, take it up with the people making it necessary if it hurts you so much. Otherwise, you have nothing to complain about when you do nothing to help yourself.
I personally love it because it gives me an excuse to revisit the subjects on a larger platform than I've ever had before. They can just keep bringing it on.
And ps. I think you mean 'drivel'. That word might have a little more bite. I prefer 'twaddle' myself, but just sayin'... :P
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ATTENTION WHORE?
ngc3
That even practically discredits what I’m saying, Amy, you piece of shit sorry excuse for a horseman’s representative and protector of horse abusers. And without ever having to actually contradict a single shred of my statements, either. And then probably only because you can’t. You seem almost desperate to do so, in fact. Give it up. You’re no match for me and never were.
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ngc3
That even practically discredits what I’m saying, Amy, you piece of shit sorry excuse for a horseman’s representative and protector of horse abusers. And without ever having to actually contradict a single shred of my statements, either. And then probably only because you can’t. You seem almost desperate to do so, in fact. Give it up. You’re no match for me and never were.
I'VE DONE A GOOD JOB DESPITE YOUR WORTHLESS SUGGESTIONS OTHERWISE
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What in the world is she twaddling about ????????????
SHE THINKS I'VE DONE A BAD JOB AS HORSEMANS REP
THIS IS AFTER SHE TRIED WRECKING MY FACEBOOK PAGE
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SHE THINKS I'VE DONE A BAD JOB AS HORSEMANS REP
THIS IS AFTER SHE TRIED WRECKING MY FACEBOOK PAGE
GREAT JOB AMY, AND TO ALL OTHERS INVOLVED, PAYBACK HAS INDEED BEEN FOR A BITCH
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GREAT JOB AMY, AND TO ALL OTHERS INVOLVED, PAYBACK HAS INDEED BEEN FOR A BITCH
YOU ARE SO WELCOME COLT
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ngc3
That even practically discredits what I’m saying, Amy, you piece of shit sorry excuse for a horseman’s representative and protector of horse abusers. And without ever having to actually contradict a single shred of my statements, either. And then probably only because you can’t. You seem almost desperate to do so, in fact. Give it up. You’re no match for me and never were.
MISSY, HOW IS THE HOLLAR DOSSIER COMING ALONG?
I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YEARS AGO IN A STOW HOTEL ROOM, A NAKED AMY HOLLAR, POURED A BOTTLE OF PINK CATAWBA ALL OVER THE NAKED BODY OF FRED ABOID. THEN SHIT IN THE SINK. THERE ARE PICTURES TO PROVE IT. ASK LARRY CLABAUGH
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You understand that most people here wouldn't be expected to know any of these references, right?
I had to google "PINK CATAWBA". But of course it's a reference to an alcoholic beverage . I should have guessed. Amy is pretty well versed in that language.
My condolences on your Facebook page. It must have been very important to you, though not for attention seeking purposes. I'm sure.
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MISSY, HOW IS THE HOLLAR DOSSIER COMING ALONG?
I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YEARS AGO IN A STOW HOTEL ROOM, A NAKED AMY HOLLAR, POURED A BOTTLE OF PINK CATAWBA ALL OVER THE NAKED BODY OF FRED ABOID. THEN SHIT IN THE SINK. THERE ARE PICTURES TO PROVE IT. ASK LARRY CLABAUGH
THAT REMINDS ME BACK IN THE DAY, DAWN HAD ONE IN A LATE RACE AND ELLIOT WANTED TO DO IT IN HIS OWN BED FOR SOME KINK. WELL, WE WERE 11.zq AND I AXED ELLIOTT IF I COULD GIVE HIM A GOLDEN SHOWER.
WHAT I THOUGHT WAS GONNA BE A PEE, TURNED OUT TO BE A POOP AND ELLIOT POPPED THE BIGGEST LOAD EVER, LEFT IT IN MY HAIR FOR WEEKS. I NEVER ASKED IF HE GOT THE SHEETS CLEAN BEFORE DAWN GOT HOME OR JUST THREW THAT SET AWAY. AHHH THE BUCKET LIST DAYS
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YOU BASTARDS
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sorry , that woman is not in Jennifer's class.
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Love a good cat fight, between a bunch of 2 baggers......
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sad she will never be a lady
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sad she will never be a lady
YOU EITHER
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YOU BASTARDS
Really? You are defending Rachel? What a joke. Because that attack had your signature classlessness written all over it. And this thread didn't get nearly so gross and crass until you made your deeply mistaken and ill-advised appearance on it. I've always thought that persona was you and now I'm sure of it.
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Really? You are defending Rachel? What a joke. Because that attack had your signature classlessness written all over it. And this thread didn't get nearly so gross and crass until you made your deeply mistaken and ill-advised appearance on it. I've always thought that persona was you and now I'm sure of it.
YOUR HAIR LOOKS WAY WORSE HOWEVER
WHY U THINK THEY GAVE U THE 1 EARED HORSE TO RUB?
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YOUR HAIR LOOKS WAY WORSE HOWEVER
WHY U THINK THEY GAVE U THE 1 EARED HORSE TO RUB?
Do tell. Worse than whose or what? At what track are you supposedly located anyway?
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Hopefully there are more Jennifers and Taras coming . Love the young hot woman in the game .
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MsO is lost in her head and can't find her way.
Back to the original topic ,please.
Start a new one that's strictly about Jenn Bongiorno as a harness trainer. Let's finish the undertaking of exposing Amy Hollar and her numerous accounts that derail just about every other thread for the sake of her amusement alone in this one. ;D
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Start a new one that's strictly about Jenn Bongiorno as a harness trainer. Let's finish the undertaking of exposing Amy Hollar and her numerous accounts that derail just about every other thread for the sake of her amusement alone in this one. ;D
I DONT KNOW WHO THIS AMY HOLLAR IS, BUT IF SHE IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM YOU, I AM ON HER SIDE. FROM WHAT WE GATHER IN THIS THREAD, YOU ARE A HUGE PART OF RACINGS PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION
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I cease to be amused AND never was amused.
Apparently you think I was talking about you. Check another persona off the list! tmbz1
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I DONT KNOW WHO THIS AMY HOLLAR IS, BUT IF SHE IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM YOU, I AM ON HER SIDE. FROM WHAT WE GATHER IN THIS THREAD, YOU ARE A HUGE PART OF RACINGS PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION
Opposite side of which issue specifically that's a problem in racing? Post length? Weight? Sexism?
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I DONT KNOW WHO THIS AMY HOLLAR IS, BUT IF SHE IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM YOU, I AM ON HER SIDE. FROM WHAT WE GATHER IN THIS THREAD, YOU ARE A HUGE PART OF RACINGS PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION
THANK YOU HARRY
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I DONT KNOW WHO THIS AMY HOLLAR IS, BUT IF SHE IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM YOU, I AM ON HER SIDE. FROM WHAT WE GATHER IN THIS THREAD, YOU ARE A HUGE PART OF RACINGS PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION
Oh yeah, one more in addition to that list of detrimental issues you're siding with her on: Amy Hollar's, who you don't know, performance as a horseman's representative?
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Oh yeah, one more in addition to that list of detrimental issues you're siding with her on: Amy Hollar's, who you don't know, performance as a horseman's representative?
FACE IT I'VE DONE A GOOD JOB
ISN'T IT GETTING TO BE FEED TIME SWEETIE? PLEASE PICK UP THOSE STALLS, AND FRESH, NOT TOPPED OFF WATER PLEASE, THANX tmbz1
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Amy holler is the biggest waste of a horsemens rep I've ever dealt with. It's a shame she gets paid to do NOTHING
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lets focus on the beautiful and successful Jennifer .
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THANK YOU HARRY
“Bill Maher talks about life “Inside the Bubble” where essentially people are only sharing ideas with people who think the exact same way that they do. There isn’t a lot of room to grow, adapt, evolve, or change if that is the case. Maybe that’s part of what I WANT people to disagree with me. I don’t understand political pages on Facebook that ban people simply for expressing a different opinion. If you feel confident in your message – shouldn’t you WANT to bring it to people who aren’t just going to smile and nod? Can’t you win the argument based on merit?”
-Sean Kemmerer
How come you never address any of the arguments that I make against you and your job performance, Amy?
It’s irrelevant to that quote above what you think of Bill Maher because a) the author wasn’t Bill Maher but Sean Kemmere; and b) it’s Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. Which is also the sketchy practice Amy Hollar has been attempting to do here with me rather than rebut the merit of any of my statements speaking to her failures and disqualifications as Northfield Park’s horseman’s representative. And likely because she can’t and knows she can’t. She hasn’t even tried. Ask yourselves. Has she? Nope.
“The truth does not need a number of supporters for authenticity. One person among the lot can be the only truthful out of the ten; 11 people out of 12 may be on the truthful side. However, the truth is the truth irrespective of how many people like to embrace it!”
-- Israelmore Ayivor
Source: The Great Hand Book of Quotes
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I've never seen a complete thread held hostage before, but it has happened to this one.
Yeah. By a bunch of you Amy Hollar sockpuppets.
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“Bill Maher talks about life “Inside the Bubble” where essentially people are only sharing ideas with people who think the exact same way that they do. There isn’t a lot of room to grow, adapt, evolve, or change if that is the case. Maybe that’s part of what I WANT people to disagree with me. I don’t understand political pages on Facebook that ban people simply for expressing a different opinion. If you feel confident in your message – shouldn’t you WANT to bring it to people who aren’t just going to smile and nod? Can’t you win the argument based on merit?”
-Sean Kemmerer
How come you never address any of the arguments that I make against you and your job performance, Amy?
It’s irrelevant to that quote above what you think of Bill Maher because a) the author wasn’t Bill Maher but Sean Kemmere; and b) it’s Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. Which is also the sketchy practice Amy Hollar has been attempting to do here with me rather than rebut the merit of any of my statements speaking to her failures and disqualifications as Northfield Park’s horseman’s representative. And likely because she can’t and knows she can’t. She hasn’t even tried. Ask yourselves. Has she? Nope.
“The truth does not need a number of supporters for authenticity. One person among the lot can be the only truthful out of the ten; 11 people out of 12 may be on the truthful side. However, the truth is the truth irrespective of how many people like to embrace it!”
-- Israelmore Ayivor
Source: The Great Hand Book of Quotes
YOUR OBSERVATIONS ARE FALLING ON DEAF EARS
I STILL HAVE THE JOB 62za.clp
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FACE IT I'VE DONE A GOOD JOB
ISN'T IT GETTING TO BE FEED TIME SWEETIE? PLEASE PICK UP THOSE STALLS, AND FRESH, NOT TOPPED OFF WATER PLEASE, THANX tmbz1
I got you answering as yourself absent any pretext to this one anyway. That's progress.
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YOUR OBSERVATIONS ARE FALLING ON DEAF EARS
I STILL HAVE THE JOB 62za.clp
I understand you got the last thread where those were being told more fully deleted. What are you afraid of if not that someone will hear me, huh?
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I understand you got the last thread where those were being told more fully deleted. What are you afraid of if not that someone will hear me, huh?
CAN YOU HEAR THIS?
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CAN YOU HEAR THIS?
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ngc3
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I understand you got the last thread where those were being told more fully deleted. What are you afraid of if not that someone will hear me, huh?
WE WONT ALLOW YOUR VENDETTA HERE OR ON FACEBOOK ANY MORE
EXPECT MORE DELETIONS IF YOU CONTINUE
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I got you answering as yourself absent any pretext to this one anyway. That's progress.
I STILL HAVE THE JOB tmbz1
HAVE THEY ALL BEEN FED AND WATERED THIS EVENING OR ARE YOU UNEMPLOYED AGAIN?
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I understand you got the last thread where those were being told more fully deleted. What are you afraid of if not that someone will hear me, huh?
YOU ARE JUST JELLY AMY GETS TO RIDE SPACE MOUNTAIN THIS SUNDAY... WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdn3WuihC8o
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WE WONT ALLOW YOUR VENDETTA HERE OR ON FACEBOOK ANY MORE
EXPECT MORE DELETIONS IF YOU CONTINUE
Ha ha gotcha! Who's this "we" you speak of? What do you have to do with the operations of Horseplop? Whose email addy is HorsePlop@hushmail.com that sends me links to solicit my participation here? Huh? Huh? Huh? It sounds like you're getting a little touchy about the truths that I'm telling. And they're hitting a little too close to home. And what is this Facebook thing you keep ranting about? I thought you said your page was almost wrecked or tried to be wrecked. Was it or wasn't it wrecked? You made it sound like you aren't on there anymore. Or at least some sort of irreparable damage had been done to the material good that is your facebook page. But maybe soliciting my participation here was so you could advance some claim that I was out to get you, and get more attention for yourself on there. You are some piece of work, lady. Go on and delete me. It'll only make you look more guilty and having of something to hide. I have nothing to lose or gain either way. :P ;D
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Ha ha gotcha! Who's this "we" you speak of? What do you have to do with the operations of Horseplop? Whose email addy is HorsePlop@hushmail.com that sends me links to solicit my participation here? Huh? Huh? Huh? It sounds like you're getting a little touchy about the truths that I'm telling. And they're hitting a little too close to home. And what is this Facebook thing you keep ranting about? I thought you said your page was almost wrecked or tried to be wrecked. Was it or wasn't it wrecked? You made it sound like you aren't on there anymore. Or at least some sort of irreparable damage had been done to the material good that is your facebook page. But maybe soliciting my participation here was so you could advance some claim that I was out to get you, and get more attention for yourself on there. You are some piece of work, lady. Go on and delete me. It'll only make you look more guilty and having of something to hide. I have nothing to lose or gain either way. :P ;D
WHAT TRUTHS? THAT YOU DONT APPROVE OF MY JOB?
IM SORRY YOU ARE STILL A LITTLE STABLE GIRL
STOP DERAILING PLEASE...MY LAST ON THIS (I HOPE)
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YOU ARE JUST JELLY AMY GETS TO RIDE SPACE MOUNTAIN THIS SUNDAY... WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdn3WuihC8o
AMY GETS TO TAG TEAM THE NATURE BOY AND THE VOICE THIS WEEKEND! LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL
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YOU ARE JUST JELLY AMY GETS TO RIDE SPACE MOUNTAIN THIS SUNDAY... WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdn3WuihC8o
That sounds a little out of place and curiously self-promotional for use in this thread. Is this Amy just wanting to talk about Amy? And isn’t that what your…errr…her Facebook page is for: attention that assuages her deep-seated insecurities?
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WHAT TRUTHS? THAT YOU DONT APPROVE OF MY JOB?
IM SORRY YOU ARE STILL A LITTLE STABLE GIRL
STOP DERAILING PLEASE...MY LAST ON THIS (I HOPE)
Playing dumb or just people off of one-another was always your specialty, but this is just getting silly…
The truths that made the thread threatening. The truths about the horse in the picture that you thought brilliant to put up there of me. The truths of everything thrown at me as if to discredit me, but actually when you dig beneath the surface of them do more to discredit you, the OHHA, Dr. Richard Sams, who you fought so hard to defend at the expense of horsemen rather than, Oh I don’t know… actually representing them, and ditto the OSRC. But like I said, keep it coming. There’s nothing I’d like more than to get the chance to repeat what you did your best to keep concealed because the truth is something you clearly fear. What do you have to hide from? Hmm? Why delete the thread?
Still a little stable girl, though? Oh ouch, Amy. You can do better. I guess that means you, Ohio Harness HORSEMAN’S Association Representative is suggesting that there’s something beneath you about stable work? Suggesting there’s something shameful in it? You’re hilarious.
You didn’t answer the questions. Don’t deflect and make it about me just so you have something to whine about. What do you have to do with the operations of this board and who here solicits my participation and because of why? Or is the enemy that you have really someone on this board and not everyone here really supports you, but is just an illusion meant sow discord and generate more hits; either here or on your Facebook page? I have considered the possibility. Have you? Maybe you should trot out another of your gross identities to post some kind of extraneous attack in all CAPS LOCK to deflect some more, huh? So far that hasn’t really been working for you. But, by all means. I have nothing to hide and no worries about being used to get more attention for you either if that ends up being the case. That, too, would only speak ill of you and the OHHA. Because at the end of the day, let’s face it, you represent and reflect on them here on this forum. You are the only one it could backfire on.
I have no sockpuppets that I’ve created for the sake of backing me up or friends I’ve asked to come defend me who could end up taking the fall because of it. I’m not the one who doesn’t think they are capable of and possessing of sound arguments to every derailment that only you are using as a crutch. Why would I have an interest in derailing a thread about Jenn Bongiorno anyhow?
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THIS AGED MARE DONT KNOW WHEN TO SHUT THE FUCK UP OR REALLY LIKES THE PAIN
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THIS AGED MARE DONT KNOW WHEN TO SHUT THE FUCK UP OR REALLY LIKES THE PAIN
SHE SOUNDS LIKE SHE WANTS TO BE FED AND BIG DADDY KNOWS WHAT IS ON HER MENU. 11.bz :1
AND YOU CAN TELL HER BIG DADDY SAID SO
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SHE SOUNDS LIKE SHE WANTS TO BE FED AND BIG DADDY KNOWS WHAT IS ON HER MENU. 11.bz :1
AND YOU CAN TELL HER BIG DADDY SAID SO
WHO WOULD WANT THAT BROOMSTICK WITH EYES?
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WHO WOULD WANT THAT BROOMSTICK WITH EYES?
AMY THATS A KLASSICK
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THIS AGED MARE DONT KNOW WHEN TO SHUT THE FUCK UP OR REALLY LIKES THE PAIN
As if, CAPS LOCK, that’ll work to play on my psyche and ‘manage’ me in much the same way you manage horsemen possessing of the gall to dare question you and the OHHA. Set up the narrative that should I answer you back it’s only because I “like pain” and I will suddenly, according to the set-up of your narrative, feel compelled to stop pointing out that you keep posting deflections to avoid answering the perfectly reasonable questions asked of you while I answer every relevant one posed of me, having, again, nothing to hide and no need for pretenses of always being pleasing and accommodating since I don’t frankly give a damn if I’m “liked”. “friended” or “popular”. Only the weak-minded are influenced by those sorts of things. I’ve always left that behind in favor of having self respect and doing/saying what is called for and right. Another problem with your premise is that it assumes you’re “causing me pain”. Whatever leads you to that incongruent with our respective behavior conclusion? The indications of this supposed anguish being what exactly? Things like asking for entire threads that are making me uncomfortable to be removed, you mean? Anonymously feigning support not for any position I’ve taken but myself personally – earned or unearned with salient arguments, you mean? Personally attacking my opposition’s irrelevant to the merits of the subject at hand personal appearance, writing, husband… in a racist kind of way because you’re pure garbage, or friends/associates and demonstrating an utter lack of basic character out of desperation, you mean? You mean THOSE kinds of indications of anguish? Ha ha ha ha Hilarious!
Of course it’s always possible that YOU were the “ AGED MARE” not knowing “when to shut the fuck up” or “really liking pain” to whom you were referring in all CAPS LOCK, as if screaming into your keyboard, and not me, I will concede. Because as I outlined above, the indications do seem to support that you very well may have been. I cannot argue with that. Now, if you don’t mind. Answer the questions that were raised by things you yourself said. It might be easy to forget about those, what with all of this subterfuge, but no. I remember them clearly. Do you need them repeated or can you handle finding where they were posed?
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As if, CAPS LOCK, that’ll work to play on my psyche and ‘manage’ me in much the same way you manage horsemen possessing of the gall to dare question you and the OHHA. Set up the narrative that should I answer you back it’s only because I “like pain” and I will suddenly, according to the set-up of your narrative, feel compelled to stop pointing out that you keep posting deflections to avoid answering the perfectly reasonable questions asked of you while I answer every relevant one posed of me, having, again, nothing to hide and no need for pretenses of always being pleasing and accommodating since I don’t frankly give a damn if I’m “liked”. “friended” or “popular”. Only the weak-minded are influenced by those sorts of things. I’ve always left that behind in favor of having self respect and doing/saying what is called for and right. Another problem with your premise is that it assumes you’re “causing me pain”. Whatever leads you to that incongruent with our respective behavior conclusion? The indications of this supposed anguish being what exactly? Things like asking for entire threads that are making me uncomfortable to be removed, you mean? Anonymously feigning support not for any position I’ve taken but myself personally – earned or unearned with salient arguments, you mean? Personally attacking my opposition’s irrelevant to the merits of the subject at hand personal appearance, writing, husband… in a racist kind of way because you’re pure garbage, or friends/associates and demonstrating an utter lack of basic character out of desperation, you mean? You mean THOSE kinds of indications of anguish? Ha ha ha ha Hilarious!
Of course it’s always possible that YOU were the “ AGED MARE” not knowing “when to shut the fuck up” or “really liking pain” to whom you were referring in all CAPS LOCK, as if screaming into your keyboard, and not me, I will concede. Because as I outlined above, the indications do seem to support that you very well may have been. I cannot argue with that. Now, if you don’t mind. Answer the questions that were raised by things you yourself said. It might be easy to forget about those, what with all of this subterfuge, but no. I remember them clearly. Do you need them repeated or can you handle finding where they were posed?
MY GAWD U CAN TAKE SOME AIR
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MY GAWD U CAN TAKE SOME AIR
^^^Deflection^^^
Answer the questions.
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^^^Deflection^^^
Answer the questions.
WHAT QUESTIONS? YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE I READ ALL YOUR GARBAGE? WHO HAS THAT KINDA TIME?
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Dear God,
I don't ask for much, but if you could ask these double bagger, over the hill, no longer relevant women to take their childish
cat fight to Denny's or McDonalds, I'd appreciate it. No wonder Billy Graham chose to die.....enough already.
Your humble ex horseman
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Dear God,
I don't ask for much, but if you could ask these double bagger, over the hill, no longer relevant women to take their childish
cat fight to Denny's or McDonalds, I'd appreciate it. No wonder Billy Graham chose to die.....enough already.
Your humble ex horseman
I STILL GET PLENTY MISTER
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Plenty of what and where......I need meds just got a nasty picture.....ughhh
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No words can describe my happiness right now! Welcome to #JBRacing
EVENIN OF PLEASURE
JBO GOT A REAL NICE HORSE FROM CANADA.
She is doing something right!!!!!!!!
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No words can describe my happiness right now! Welcome to #JBRacing
EVENIN OF PLEASURE
JBO GOT A REAL NICE HORSE FROM CANADA.
She is doing something right!!!!!!!!
Burke had him before going to Cullen
So I guess similar situation/owners?
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WHAT QUESTIONS? YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE I READ ALL YOUR GARBAGE? WHO HAS THAT KINDA TIME?
Scroll up, maybe? And yes, I do. Why else would you be getting flustered? I mean, haven't you always essentially told me to fuck off when I busted you disingenuously contradicting yourself in message board posts that you couldn't backpedal, lie, delete or manipulate your way out of? And what you're really afraid of is my revealing the conversation between yourself and Belcher I overheard here on this widely read forum. So, yes...I expect you are pretty stressed out and pouring over every word with your finger poised on the trigger.
Thanks for confirming it that I was so right about your identity with that picture though. lol I can spot you from a mile away by this time. 73cv.2 And didn't you know that your opinions as a woman are only as valuable as your attractiveness to people in a patriarchy that you do everything you can to reinforce, exploit and impose on other women? I wonder why I would think you're a piece of shit and stupid...
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Hate to bring this back up but last night at Yonkers, there was a horse in the 11th race named Bella Ragaza. The horse is trained by Jen and has been for several months. The horse won two in a row several weeks ago driven by Joe. I just happened to notice under the spotter's comments, he said "well trained", talk about publicity. I have never in all my years in this business heard a partisan comment like that before. Wonder what that cost. :P
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Hate to bring this back up but last night at Yonkers, there was a horse in the 11th race named Bella Ragaza. The horse is trained by Jen and has been for several months. The horse won two in a row several weeks ago driven by Joe. I just happened to notice under the spotter's comments, he said "well trained", talk about publicity. I have never in all my years in this business heard a partisan comment like that before. Wonder what that cost. :P
6YR½ ft29 12000 FMNW4PM 283 584 1273 1562 76 78 4 11¼ 11¼ 1¾ 12 12¾ 284 1562 *1.0 Bongiorno, Joe L -8 well trained BellRgz, ClssyChplN, StnbrdgCd 8
29Jan18 8YR½ ft38 12000 FMNW4PM 283 583 1271 157 78 78 4 11¾ 11¾ 11¼ 11½ 12 294 157 4.0 Bongiorno, Joe L -4 well trained
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6YR½ ft29 12000 FMNW4PM 283 584 1273 1562 76 78 4 11¼ 11¼ 1¾ 12 12¾ 284 1562 *1.0 Bongiorno, Joe L -8 well trained BellRgz, ClssyChplN, StnbrdgCd 8
29Jan18 8YR½ ft38 12000 FMNW4PM 283 583 1271 157 78 78 4 11¾ 11¾ 11¼ 11½ 12 294 157 4.0 Bongiorno, Joe L -4 well trained
So, do you think the horse was well trained by Jen?
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So, do you think the horse was well trained by Jen?
yes they won in both starts
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yes they won in both starts
Yup! Can't argue with that logic. Guess she is a prodigy.
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she's been quite unsuccessful on her Cal Expo Pick 4 attempts
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The comment well trained is a generic one. The chart caller uses these terms that he has on a list. He is not just making them up as he goes.
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The comment well trained is a generic one. The chart caller uses these terms that he has on a list. He is not just making them up as he goes.
Thanks for clarifying that for me. I just don't think that Jen has in reality ever turned a horse on the track. I don't think she is a trainer just like the Bongiorno that handles the winners at Meadowlands is not a horse-person. That one is going to get an animal or a person hurt as she bails if a horse sneezes. So, my point is I don't really care where it came from, the term does not fit in this particular instance.
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yes they won in both starts
Funny, you bailed on guys who could actually train a horse and now you think Jenn B is a real trainer! Hilarious!
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NOBODY AXED U
Oh God ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 I can't breath ! I do ,however, know fo or fi others who did.
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Thanks for clarifying that for me. I just don't think that Jen has in reality ever turned a horse on the track. I don't think she is a trainer just like the Bongiorno that handles the winners at Meadowlands is not a horse-person. That one is going to get an animal or a person hurt as she bails if a horse sneezes. So, my point is I don't really care where it came from, the term does not fit in this particular instance.
No shit Sherlock
It’s her brother training them
Now go home and cry
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Thanks for clarifying that for me. I just don't think that Jen has in reality ever turned a horse on the track. I don't think she is a trainer just like the Bongiorno that handles the winners at Meadowlands is not a horse-person. That one is going to get an animal or a person hurt as she bails if a horse sneezes. So, my point is I don't really care where it came from, the term does not fit in this particular instance.
MY MAN GELROD NEVER TURNED A HORSE ON THE TRACK, AND NOBODY
DID BETTER THAN HIM, RIGHT FROM THE SIDELINES
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Does baffert And chad brown gallop their horses?
No
So who the fuck cares?
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She got more going for her than most of the old bastards out there training........I'd use her.......
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MY MAN GELROD NEVER TURNED A HORSE ON THE TRACK, AND NOBODY
DID BETTER THAN HIM, RIGHT FROM THE SIDELINES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chZdIVceiN0
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Saw her in the paddock Saturday night. Seems like she brightens up the place in many ways. Had the yoga pants on and wore them WELL. All you guys complaining about her havnt spent a much time in the paddock, cause most female grooms and trainers are not even close to turnin heads like she does ........ I think I strained a neck muscle after she won the 50k levy
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Saw her in the paddock Saturday night. Seems like she brightens up the place in many ways. Had the yoga pants on and wore them WELL. All you guys complaining about her havnt spent a much time in the paddock, cause most female grooms and trainers are not even close to turnin heads like she does ........ I think I strained a neck muscle after she won the 50k levy
I love her winner circle pose
It’s great
Reminds me of the Zeron Z cross
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Does baffert And chad brown gallop their horses?
No
So who the fuck cares?
Oranges and apples and you know that. Yeah but actually really you are right. Who cares? She'll just take the heat for brother when the positives roll in. We all know at this point it's caveat-emptor anyway.
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Jen just trained another one its on FB. I would rather see Jen getting a bath instead of Franco 73cv.2
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everyone needs to be on the same page , she makes the dreary paddock look good at night .
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everyone needs to be on the same page , she makes the dreary paddock look good at night .
sad for our sport
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Sad for what the 4 fans..
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Hey let her keep smiling on tv and waving to the crowd as they continue to win at yonkers . Hell there doing way better than there father. Joe obviously is getting outside help.
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Hey let her keep smiling on tv and waving to the crowd as they continue to win at yonkers . Hell there doing way better than there father. Joe obviously is getting outside help.
and they are prolly honest
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Hey let her keep smiling on tv and waving to the crowd as they continue to win at yonkers . Hell there doing way better than there father. Joe obviously is getting outside help.
"waving to the crowd"...that might be the funniest thing you ever said. You really think that they are getting outside help? ngc3...they are dancer blood u know...of course they are also bongiorno blood....
Sooooo..scum they are....surprised that you can't figure out who's helping... I don't think it would be that hard, for someone with your connections..alth ough they are dying on you at an alarming rate..last couple of years....
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Jenn is becoming the face of harness racing. Good for her she works hard
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Couldn't carry Nancy johanssons , linda toscanos or casies jock
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Couldn't carry Nancy johanssons , linda toscanos or casies jock
Jock? You mean tampon. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I want to know why she didn't share some of her great training acumen with daddy while he was batting in the low 200's with the family horses? ngc3
I assumed she knew a lot about shoes...but who knew they were horse shoes? 87xc.2 11.wp
Doesn't her and daddy's horses eat from the same feed bin? 77z.chf
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Red & Yello Caps are abundant in her training methods lol tmbz1
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jennifer ledford PED specialist
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All of the top criminals can’t do what she’s doing the game passed them bye. Gelrod , conte , cant get horses to go.
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She is a fake............. .....
Have you ever seen her in the paddock.......... ....
Come on now
I have but only to take pics for social media
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I wish her nothing but the best in Cleveland this week in the Battle of Lake Erie
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i have seen her in the yonkers paddock alot on Saturday nights always wearing black spandex pants and her hair brushed perfectly , couldn't get a tongue tie on though her brother had to do it.
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i have seen her in the yonkers paddock alot on Saturday nights always wearing black spandex pants and her hair brushed perfectly , couldn't get a tongue tie on though her brother had to do it.
Sarcasm aside, you just exposed her with the tounge tie observation. Anybody that cant hang one up, even with someone else telling you what to put on, is not who you want in charge, agreed.
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Sarcasm aside, you just exposed her with the tounge tie observation. Anybody that cant hang one up, even with someone else telling you what to put on, is not who you want in charge, agreed.
She's more a Management type,
great human capital skills, delegating to highly qualified staff.
Give us her time to manage the stable and owners as well as think other, important high level thoughts.
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She's more a Management type,
great human capital skills, delegating to highly qualified staff.
Give us her time to manage the stable and owners as well as think other, important high level thoughts.
If "high quality help" is involved, you have a hypothesis.
She can tell them what they are doing wrong, but cant demonstrate correct methods even with hand signals ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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i have seen her in the yonkers paddock alot on Saturday nights always wearing black spandex pants and her hair brushed perfectly , couldn't get a tongue tie on though her brother had to do it.
When my wife watched me grab my horses tongue to put on a tongue tie she thought it was disgusting..Maybe Jen just thinks it's yucky to touch a horses tongue..Lol
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I asked Jenn to marry me, so once we are hitched, she can train all my horses and we will rule the harness game
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sounds like money laundering
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does her father let her keep any of the money
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does her father let her keep any of the money
looks like still on allowance and free colors washed
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She is there and has been on alot of saturday nights , but doesnt really do alot , they have grooms with the horses , she is there it looks like her brother does alot and seems to be the guy training as well as driving .
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Thank you for some honest observation on this subject
Dead On 🤔🤫🤭
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I feel that we should put this post to rest.
27 pages of comments on an individual that does not deserve one post.......
NOT EVEN AN HONEST EXPOSE'?