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Title: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Frankie on August 12, 2017, 12:55:01 PM
 If there was a enough drama over the last seven days with Svanstedt, now there is a dead two-year-old Pacing Colt     Owner finds out 3 days later via text message. Sorry
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: TTitans1 on August 12, 2017, 01:26:16 PM
Nice! This Oky sfinsfuck guy is a real disease!
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Frankie on August 12, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Nice! This Oky sfinsfuck guy is a real disease!

Poor horse. Horses look for you like you're their parents   This horse proabably pawed for help and ake was polishing his trophy and the wife was taking more pics of the hambo blanket. While their owners horse is dead   Class act 👎🏼
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on August 12, 2017, 02:54:05 PM
ANY CHANCE CAUSE OF DEATH WAS ELECTROCUTION?

http://www.theharnessedge.com/news.asp?Mode=View&Story=32527 (http://www.theharnessedge.com/news.asp?Mode=View&Story=32527)
https://viewfromthegrandstand.blogspot.com/2009/05/scandal-in-sweden.html (https://viewfromthegrandstand.blogspot.com/2009/05/scandal-in-sweden.html)


ANY IDEA IF WE CAN GET THE TELEVISION INTERVIEWS THAT MADE HIM HAVE TO LEAVE HIS COUNTRY?
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: mass hole on August 12, 2017, 03:16:36 PM
I believe this is from 2009....not current???
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 12, 2017, 03:21:50 PM
Name of the horse?
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: RACEJUDGE on August 12, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
Think your missing juicejunkies point
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on August 12, 2017, 03:24:19 PM
I believe this is from 2009....not current???


Allegedly a horse is dead.   Owner notified 3 days afterwards via text.
My question is was the horse just dead or killed from shocks of electricity.
He has allegedly done this in the past and hence it would be plausible that these acts or worse could have spelled the death of this current horse.

Racing in 2017, everyone is a fucking criminal.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on August 12, 2017, 03:24:32 PM
Think your missing juicejunkies point

 tmbz1
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 12, 2017, 04:08:52 PM
long time ago those electric rods were used very commonly at Roosevelt to train

I could never do that to an animal makes me sick if this is true
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Frankie on August 12, 2017, 11:55:52 PM
Name of the horse?


2 year old Rustle Hanover colt qualified at big M
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: xyz on August 13, 2017, 01:54:10 PM
ANY CHANCE CAUSE OF DEATH WAS ELECTROCUTION?

http://www.theharnessedge.com/news.asp?Mode=View&Story=32527 (http://www.theharnessedge.com/news.asp?Mode=View&Story=32527)
https://viewfromthegrandstand.blogspot.com/2009/05/scandal-in-sweden.html (https://viewfromthegrandstand.blogspot.com/2009/05/scandal-in-sweden.html)


ANY IDEA IF WE CAN GET THE TELEVISION INTERVIEWS THAT MADE HIM HAVE TO LEAVE HIS COUNTRY?

I'll add a few more links fyi:
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=3263179
Scroll down on this one:
https://youbetblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/01/the-lions-in-winter/


Interesting that Gural uses his services? Maybe it's all just fake news?
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on August 13, 2017, 02:02:55 PM
AKE TAKING AMERICA BY WRECKING CREW
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on August 13, 2017, 10:51:39 PM
ANY MORE NEWS ON THE DEAD STEED?
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Frankie on August 13, 2017, 11:19:21 PM
ANY MORE NEWS ON THE DEAD STEED?

PRECOR .c (rustle Hanover)died Sunday.

Message to owner Tuesday

Sorry for the Bad news! horse died Sunday
Will forward you bill
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Icyunvme on August 14, 2017, 12:32:50 AM
Looks like he was partners with Rossie Smith on this horse.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on August 14, 2017, 09:47:31 AM
probably insured for 80k
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: mass hole on August 14, 2017, 09:50:31 AM
does Gural have horses with Ake??
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: xyz on August 14, 2017, 10:49:32 AM
does Gural have horses with Ake??

There's no way Gural would have horses with any tainer that would do or instructed such cruelty to a race horse. After all, Gural is trying to clean up this industry & would be setting a bad example utilizing such a trainer. Gural would also be seen as a hypocrite for using such a trainer.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Frankie on August 14, 2017, 02:37:05 PM
There's no way Gural would have horses with any tainer that would do or instructed such cruelty to a race horse. After all, Gural is trying to clean up this industry & would be setting a bad example utilizing such a trainer. Gural would also be seen as a hypocrite for using such a trainer.

Evelyn, Double L Lindy, Lucky Ava, 3 more
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: xyz on August 14, 2017, 03:50:41 PM
Evelyn, Double L Lindy, Lucky Ava, 3 more

WOW, that's shocking. (1) Maybe he isn't aware of this abuse? (2) Or maybe because a sharp lawyer eventually got things cleared up, that is enough for him to turn a blind eye? (3) Or maybe he sent his lead investigator across the pond & interviewed the second trainers that testified that they were instructed to use the prod, but they all recanted their testimony?   
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt
Post by: PIGLAND on July 21, 2018, 10:09:25 AM
WANNA GET BANDED
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt
Post by: oh canada on July 21, 2018, 10:20:18 AM
Do you honestly think that anybody operating a stable that big won't have to suffer the odd colt dying?? Its you people that poison the sport!!  ;D
Title: Re: Ake Svanstedt
Post by: Fatboy on July 21, 2018, 11:48:56 AM
What happened to the thread on here about one of his colts dying? Are the people that run this site covering for him?

YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVE RACEHORSES DON'T EVER DIE? COULD YOU SUGGEST AN APPROPRIATE AGE AND SCENARIO AS ACCEPTED BY YOU AND OTHERS?  THANKS tmbz1
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on July 21, 2018, 11:50:12 AM
I think Gural lets  Oakie do whatever he wants to horse so he can be Burke and Takter. Even human anchor Andy Miller's horses run good when Gural owns them.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: mohawkid on July 21, 2018, 11:56:57 AM
Oh Canada was that not your old trainers fav method of training ?
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: silent one on July 21, 2018, 07:41:57 PM
WOW, that's shocking. (1) Maybe he isn't aware of this abuse? (2) Or maybe because a sharp lawyer eventually got things cleared up, that is enough for him to turn a blind eye? (3) Or maybe he sent his lead investigator across the pond & interviewed the second trainers that testified that they were instructed to use the prod, but they all recanted their testimony?   
(4) Gural is a thieving, cheating, whining bitch. (5) Gural employs major horse dopers. (6) You are employed by the scumbag Gural. (7) Or, you maybe the dumbest son of a bitch to ever post here.

   Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Shadow Wave on July 22, 2018, 12:03:51 AM
long time ago those electric rods were used very commonly at Roosevelt to train

I could never do that to an animal makes me sick if this is true

In the 60's-70's they were used a lot out West especially at Hollywood Park.  They were called buzzers. They were kinda like those old joke toys you held in the palm of your hand and gave an electric shock to whomever you shook hands with.  They were in the whip handle and the users were called PG&E men (Pacific Gas & Electric) It must be noted that horses have almost no impedance to electricity and can be electricuted to death with a six volt car battery. It is referred to as Jewish Lightening and was used to kill horses for insurance purposes.  A double A battery will scare the shit out of a horse.  Users would go out in the paddock during a thunder and lightening storm with a pair of jumper cables and zap.  Too bad none ever got zapped themselves.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 10:47:28 AM
In the 60's-70's they were used a lot out West especially at Hollywood Park.  They were called buzzers. They were kinda like those old joke toys you held in the palm of your hand and gave an electric shock to whomever you shook hands with.  They were in the whip handle and the users were called PG&E men (Pacific Gas & Electric) It must be noted that horses have almost no impedance to electricity and can be electricuted to death with a six volt car battery. It is referred to as Jewish Lightening and was used to kill horses for insurance purposes.  A double A battery will scare the shit out of a horse.  Users would go out in the paddock during a thunder and lightening storm with a pair of jumper cables and zap.  Too bad none ever got zapped themselves.

some truth here except i NEVER saw anyone go into the paddock during a lightning storm with a pair of jumper cables and zap them...JUST HOW DID THAT WORK ANYWAYS???? :P
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Shadow Wave on July 22, 2018, 12:20:53 PM
some truth here except i NEVER saw anyone go into the paddock during a lightning storm with a pair of jumper cables and zap them...JUST HOW DID THAT WORK ANYWAYS???? :P

Maybe you NEVER saw it done because you just weren't looking Or perhaps I'm just a liar.  Lets just assume I'm a liar and leave it at that.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 12:24:37 PM
Maybe you NEVER saw it done because you just weren't looking Or perhaps I'm just a liar.  Lets just assume I'm a liar and leave it at that.

JUST WANNA KNOW HOW IT WORKS...BATTERY CABLES ARE HOOKED TO WHAT? LIGHTNING BOLT?
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Shadow Wave on July 22, 2018, 12:32:29 PM
JUST WANNA KNOW HOW IT WORKS...BATTERY CABLES ARE HOOKED TO WHAT? LIGHTNING BOLT?

Cable is hooked to ground and then to horse.  Death is almost instant.  The lightening is used as a smoke screen and is blamed for the horses death.  Then insurance checks and finds there was lightening in the area.  Lots of 100K duds went that way.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Shadow Wave on July 22, 2018, 12:57:45 PM
Also I am talking about an outside paddock where the horses are turned out.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: COTTONWOOD FARM on July 22, 2018, 01:06:44 PM
Cable is hooked to ground and then to horse.  Death is almost instant.  The lightening is used as a smoke screen and is blamed for the horses death.  Then insurance checks and finds there was lightening in the area.  Lots of 100K duds went that way.

HOPE YOU GET ASS CANCER FOR DOING THAT
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Shadow Wave on July 22, 2018, 01:11:43 PM
HOPE YOU GET ASS CANCER FOR DOING THAT

I never did that.  It was a plague during the times I was racing.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
HOPE YOU GET ASS CANCER FOR DOING THAT

dan i think he just saw it only
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Shadow Wave on July 22, 2018, 01:44:46 PM
dan i think he just saw it only

Actually Fats I never saw it happen, although thanks for the clarification.  During the time, we all knew it was going on because there was so many horses dying and it was being talked about almost as if it was OK.  When people started getting caught and prosecuted for insurance fraud it all came to light.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 01:46:25 PM
Actually Fats I never saw it happen, although thanks for the clarification.  During the time, we all knew it was going on because there was so many horses dying and it was being talked about almost as if it was OK.  When people started getting caught and prosecuted for insurance fraud it all came to light.

MUCH LESS SCRUTINY DECADES AGO AGREED ;D AND IM GLAD WE WHITTLED DOWN TO THE FACTS
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Shadow Wave on July 22, 2018, 01:49:34 PM
MUCH LESS SCRUTINY DECADES AGO AGREED ;D AND IM GLAD WE WHITTLED DOWN TO THE FACTS

Thanks for that!
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: COTTONWOOD FARM on July 22, 2018, 01:51:19 PM
dan i think he just saw it only

HE SMELLS LIKE A LIAR TO ME.  HE DID IT, I GUARANTEE IT.  
A LOT OF THEM DID IT

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/30/nyregion/18-indicted-in-jersey-in-killing-of-race-horses-to-collect-insurance.html
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
HE SMELLS LIKE A LIAR TO ME.  HE DID IT, I GUARANTEE IT. 

WONDER IF HE USED M99
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Shadow Wave on July 22, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
HE SMELLS LIKE A LIAR TO ME.  HE DID IT, I GUARANTEE IT.  
A LOT OF THEM DID IT

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/30/nyregion/18-indicted-in-jersey-in-killing-of-race-horses-to-collect-insurance.html

Sorry I brought it up.
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 02:04:09 PM
Sorry I brought it up.

DAN WAS WORSE DONT WORRY tmbz1
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: RACEJUDGE on July 22, 2018, 02:46:17 PM
google svanstedts. THEY WERE THROWN OUT .OF THERE COUNTRY ,THEY ARE HORSE ABUSERS .
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 03:06:11 PM
Then why were you involved with him, Mr. Smith?

OOOPSY
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: helpplease on July 22, 2018, 03:09:58 PM
google svanstedts. THEY WERE THROWN OUT .OF THERE COUNTRY ,THEY ARE HORSE ABUSERS .

This was cut & paste from an article on youbet.com

Bits and pieces
The shakeup in Sweden, involving the country’s top trotting trainer, has resulted in Ake Svanstedt found guilty. In an unusual case of standardbred abuse, Svanstedt was convicted of “acts of or encouragement to commit animal cruelty.”

The case against him claimed that Ake encouraged his second trainer to perform cruel acts on trotters in their care. The original indictment offered nine counts and Ake beat all but two of them.

He was fined $2,500 and $5,000 in court fees. The second trainer was found guilty of “breaching the law” and another team-Svanstedt trainer was found guilty of making threats against a witness.

While appeals are pending, the Swedish Trotting Association (STA) has cause to present the accused with their walking papers, which would put the sport in a freefall considering the stock team-Svanstedt handled. It is possible that owners of trotters in the care of Svanstedt and company are already fleeing, which could leave the trainer’s lucrative business in ruins. The STA, sources say, will not act until all appeals have been exhausted, though authorities there pointed out “how serious they regard the charges.”
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 04:24:51 PM
Gee, no word from Mr. Smith???????????

VANISHED
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: spaheaven on July 22, 2018, 06:03:41 PM
Does taco bell still buy em if they've been electrocuted?  Does it ruin the meat?
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Jughead on August 07, 2018, 09:31:08 AM
Your exactly right Mr.Smith (Kevin) is a coward and knows nothing about horses. Look for him at your local track big fat stomach and a dog killer!!! Overfed is dog to death no exercise and locked him in a car while at the races. This guy is a fucking loser!! and he talks about abuse!!!! Mother Fucker!!! Ask anybody in Saratoga

Gee, no word from Mr. Smith???????????
Title: Re: HAMBO Placed Winners Svanstedts have DEAD HORSE at their Legend Farm.
Post by: Fatboy on August 07, 2018, 01:39:32 PM
Better yet, why was Rossi Smith or Kevin partnered with Ake?????

Can Mr. Smith answer that question??????  It's not hard.
Race Judge,    where are you?????

DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS A GAMBLE ON A KNOWN CHEAT WHO WOULD STOP AT NOTHING TO WIN
PYLONS NOT SAFE...NEITHER ARE YOU IF YOU DONT GIVE HIM PLENTY OF ROOM
EVERYBODY CHEATS LIKE AKE BUT NOBODY DRIVES LIKE AKE ngc3
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