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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: NJ Law on July 20, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
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Robert bongiorno did a Ponzi scheme on trond smedshammer and brain sears and others Robert lost all there money and is about to get caught if anybody knows these people please let them know .there are other victims trying to get there names if anybody give him money and did not get your money back please post it .
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brain sears ngc3
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NOT SURE HOW THIS ALL WENT ABOUT...DOES OP REALLY KNOW HOW THE OPERATION WENT?
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brain sears ngc3
How ironic!! The same guy who was filling his daughters sewage-slit-shit-hole with all of his coke cum, was actually getting ass-fucked by the old man for all his money!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 :1
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Reality TV can make Harness Racing the biggest thing in America. It will NEVER run out of material.
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brain sears ngc3
Here I thought he was the white knight n that wrestling manager was the brain.Boy you have to pay attention on here you can learn alot on here.
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Wouldn't you think something is wrong if they guy can't or won't bet with his own money ?
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How ironic!! The same guy who was filling his daughters sewage-slit-shit-hole with all of his coke cum, was actually getting ass-fucked by the old man for all his money!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 :1
RIGHT OR WRONG, THE ABOVE IS A MASTERPIECE. THIS MAN RED SOX FAN CAN BE VERY DESCRIPTIVE, NO?
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RIGHT OR WRONG, THE ABOVE IS A MASTERPIECE. THIS MAN RED SOX FAN CAN BE VERY DESCRIPTIVE, NO?
Yes Sir, it's a beauty. tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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RIGHT OR WRONG, THE ABOVE IS A MASTERPIECE. THIS MAN RED SOX FAN CAN BE VERY DESCRIPTIVE, NO?
Compliments are always appreciated Herm. ;D Call it "EXACTLY" how it is.... tmbz1 tmbz1
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Will Bobby be joining his sister? https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2014/12/09/madoff-assistant-annette-bongiorno-sentenced-to-6-years/#547b0093881e
Yes, that's his sister.
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Maybe this long time black eye of harness racing will finally be shut down!
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Is this why son and daughter split off in to own operation? A front to separate liabilities?
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Will Bobby be joining his sister? https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2014/12/09/madoff-assistant-annette-bongiorno-sentenced-to-6-years/#547b0093881e
Yes, that's his sister.
Can this family really be this crooked?
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It runs in the genes
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It runs in the genes
I mean, until I see more evidence, I would have to withhold judgement. Genetics doesn't determine evil or criminality.
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I mean, until I see more evidence, I would have to withhold judgement. Genetics doesn't determine evil or criminality.
Genetics, along with environment, does help a bit. What should people expect from children, when they are surrounded by scumbags? Harness racing BREEDS scumbags. Let's not forget, Jeff Gural, had no problem letting Papa Bongiorno/scumbag access to his tracks. Which leads me to believe Gural is in the wrong business. If Gural were in the fertilizer business, with all the bullshit that comes out of his mouth, he would be the richest man on Earth.
Sincerely, Silent One
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Will Bobby be joining his sister? https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2014/12/09/madoff-assistant-annette-bongiorno-sentenced-to-6-years/#547b0093881e
Yes, that's his sister.
How can this be? gural vouched for the bobbie as a great guy. jeffie wouldn't lie would he?
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YOU DUMB FUCKING CUNT MUSCLES, HE'S A LOAN SHARK.ALL THESES MORON'S GAVE HIM MONEY. THEN THE FED'S SHUT HIM DOWN. GUESS WHAT IT
AIN'T WALMART YOU PUT MONEY ON THE STREET AND THINGS GO BAD YOU LOSE YOUR MONEY.
I FEEL BAD FOR JOE CAUSE ONE INVESTOR GRABBED HIM IN THE PADDOCK,BUT THE INVESTOR GOT 300K A FEW DAYS LATER.
AND TROND HAS A 750K LIFE INSURANCE POLICY ON BOB.WITH TROND HAS THE BENEFICIARY.
REMEMBER YOU PLAY WITH THE BULL,YOU GET THE HORNS.
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That's very dangerous. What did he do..money on street ??
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HENCE THE TERM LOAN SHARK tmbz1
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How can this be? gural vouched for the bobbie as a great guy. jeffie wouldn't lie would he?
No but shows how piss poor judge of character Jeff is
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Who told you that Bobby? LOL All lies - You can't have a life insurance policy on someone that is not family or relative. Mob used to put life insurance policies on bums then whack them and gov put an end to it. So if Trond is paying premium's he double screwed! hahaha
Yes you can
You can buy people’s life policies
Just need. A broker
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IT'S CALLED A KEY MAN POLICY FUCK NUTS. MAYBE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BACK THAT BIG MOUTH UP WITH SOME MONEY.
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Just a show. They all eat together at River Palm once a week.
Running a small, dead, non winning barn at the Meadowlands diverts attention from the real stable?
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IT'S CALLED A KEY MAN POLICY FUCK NUTS. MAYBE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BACK THAT BIG MOUTH UP WITH SOME MONEY.
I thought those were called dead peasant policies?
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I DISAGREE THIS NO SHOW. THEY ARE PLAYING FOR REAL.
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Who told you that Bobby? LOL All lies - You can't have a life insurance policy on someone that is not family or relative.
Yes you can....even Walmart does it and the employee's family gets NOTHING! :1
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You have to justify cause and "he owes me money" don't cut it. Good luck getting that policy to pay.
Of course "he owes me money" cuts it. It is called insurable interest.
A creditors has an insurable interest in a debtor to the extent of the amount of the debt. That's standard NAIC language used in nearly every state.
Trust me. I know more about this than you.
I hope that helps.
Now, go home and get your shine box.
You fucking dolt.
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CALHOUN QUOTING "GOOD FELLAS"
VERY IMPRESSIVE tmbz1
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Keep conversation civil
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CALHOUN QUOTING "GOOD FELLAS"
VERY IMPRESSIVE tmbz1
SURPRISED HE CAN READ
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GO BOUNCE ANOTHER CHECK YOU NO-GOOD LOW LIFE LOSER CUNT DALDOUCHEBAG
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Can someone elaborate on the claim of a Ponzi ?
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Yikes. Son and daughter break off to form their own 'stable' and protect interests. That is not a good look. Also, aren't some of those names listed also associated with Jenn 'romantically'? Daddy pimped daughter out?
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Jen said she was leaving the Meadowlands staff to become a trainer because it was her passion! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
And almost every industry asskisser bent over backwards to kiss her ass! 19z.az 91zxa.1
Why didn't Jen tell the truth that she was helping run a scam to siphon off assets for her father? 77z.chf 91.jzail
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SUCKERS AND GREED..
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BON JOVI FAMILY ARE THE GREATEST ROCK GROUP IN AMERICA
I LUV THESE GUYS....
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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GAS STATIONS AND LIQUORS STORES
WHY CANT I FIND THESE KINDA OF INVESTORS (suckers)...
SUCKERS AND GREED WILL GET U ALL THE TIME
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"A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE"
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...GIVE GENEROUSLY tmbz1
BECAUSE A
MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE tmbz1
DIE NOSIS LIB ER A TOES..
LOVE THAT NAME
MEANS
NO GAS STATION OR LIQUOR STORE FOR U
IN GREEK tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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SOUNDS LIKE HE WILL BE LOOKING FOR A PLEA BARGAIN,,,,,
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SURE LOOKS THAT WAY,,,,,,,BUT THIS JUDICIAL SYSTEM ,,,YOU NEVER KNOW
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Yikes. Son and daughter break off to form their own 'stable' and protect interests. That is not a good look. Also, aren't some of those names listed also associated with Jenn 'romantically'? Daddy pimped daughter out?
Jen fucked half those guys how else would they get people to invest with a loser like bob what a scam... my question is why didn't bob but Jen a pair of tits with any of that money she flat as a fucking board
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Yet, THIS IS the guy who is in gurals "favorites list". NOW do people see who jeff gural REALLY is? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I'm LOVING this. WHERE are the gural defenders and how HE is going to clean up racing? Can't even clean up HIS OWN FRIENDS LIST. Doesn't Bob Bongiorno have some horses entered at the meadowlands tonight? 73cv.2 73cv.2
Yep-HONEST racing at its best.
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Even with a plea bargain "the big house" will have a new patron. ENJOY 11.wp
I’m not sure about that. If he was really running a Ponzi scheme do you really think he would file for bankruptcy? Jmo but That’s kind of like putting a nail in your own coffin.
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Remember Jen gloating about how great a provider her father was and how much he did for the family...... REALLY. The guy claims almost 5 million in debt and he is a great provider????? COMICAL AND CRIMINAL
More white trash horseman
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he ruined his own name now he will ruin his kids?
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Yet, THIS IS the guy who is in gurals "favorites list". NOW do people see who jeff gural REALLY is? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I'm LOVING this. WHERE are the gural defenders and how HE is going to clean up racing? Can't even clean up HIS OWN FRIENDS LIST. Doesn't Bob Bongiorno have some horses entered at the meadowlands tonight? 73cv.2 73cv.2
Yep-HONEST racing at its best.
Last race #7 had him down as trainer with one of the people on the debtor list as part owner. Not sure how you can legally even let that horse race.
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he ruined his own name now he will ruin his kids?
Yeap
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Last race #7 had him down as trainer with one of the people on the debtor list as part owner. Not sure how you can legally even let that horse race.
WHAT WAS ILLEGAL ABOUT IT?
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Well Jenn obviously did not get Ron Burke involved yet she has slept with sears and trond . Really don’t think she did it to help her father she’s young and sexually vibrant as any young woman who is attractive would be.
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Well Jenn obviously did not get Ron Burke involved yet she has slept with sears and trond . Really don’t think she did it to help her father she’s young and sexually vibrant as any young woman who is attractive would be.
You only named 2. She’s a whore. I’m sure the list is like a scroll. It’s past sexually active. She’s a fucking pig. And why does she have to fuck married guys? I know it’s harness Racing and rules do not apply. No offense to Pigland
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All of the cheaters complained about Lou Pena because he was a much better cheater and that he stuck it in their faces. Jen Ho sticks her snapping gyro in their faces and that makes her 40% win percentage as a 1st year trainer on the fishy road to Goshen.
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All of the cheaters complained about Lou Pena because he was a much better cheater and that he stuck it in their faces. Jen Ho sticks her snapping gyro in their faces and that makes her 40% win percentage as a 1st year trainer on the fishy road to Goshen.
Come on, when I think fish taco I want to think Lohn John Silver's not this sperm receptacle.
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The whole family will be in jail before long. How they gonna explain 5 Million gone?
Jenny bon Jovi. To pretty for jail
FACT legit
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She never goes to jail...STOP
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That crew is now harness racing at its worst if thats possible these days
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Gural will definitely step away from the dad
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Gural will definitely step away from the dad
He did NOT when the guy was suspended for 10 YEARS FOR NEFARIOUS ACTS TO HARNESS RACING. What makes anyone think he would NOW? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 GREAT GUY
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He did NOT when the guy was suspended for 10 YEARS FOR NEFARIOUS ACTS TO HARNESS RACING. What makes anyone think he would NOW? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 GREAT GUY
The Bongo Crime Family ripping people off and hiding assets is small potatoes compared to Madoff. 94z.sm
But filing bankruptcy and benefitting from it personally is page one from the TRUMP Family playbook! 11.dt
How does Bongo even get investors with a history of nefarious acts? angbk
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How does Bongo even get investors with a history of nefarious acts? angbk
He pimps his daughter
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He pimps his daughter
I paid $20 for that amazing blowjob last week
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The Bongo Crime Family ripping people off and hiding assets is small potatoes compared to Madoff. 94z.sm
But filing bankruptcy and benefitting from it personally is page one from the TRUMP Family playbook! 11.dt
How does Bongo even get investors with a history of nefarious acts? angbk
Madoff is NOT involved in harness racing, nor does he enjoy SPECIAL privileges from gural, the beacon of honest and transparent harness racing. Hard to compare Madoff to Old Man Bongiorno.
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Cant wait to find out about the money trail and where it all went!!
Start with the River Palm Restaurant!!
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Jenn b has money behind her...2 owners ate talking to her now. She's going to be huge
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Let's hear some dollar amounts involved in the alleged Ponzi !
It’s not a secret
Allegedly a bit under 5 mil
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WHAT WAS ILLEGAL ABOUT IT?
Depends how far the bankruptcy case has gone, the funds earned might be put in protectorship to distribute to the debtor class.
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please remember all these investors have been getting paid on there original put up money . Say trond gave Bobby 500k he probably got back 50k a year for the past 8 years maybe hes owed 100k from the original number . ASll of these guys have been getting royalty checks for years .
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Madoff paid out a lot of Royalties to
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really hard to believe this many people wouldn't figure out that their is no easy way to make money.
When something sounds to good to be true there is a good reason.
Sad part is it shows the sport has more troubles than the public actually understands.
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There are master manipulators everywhere
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we will see about the 20% number, sounds very light .
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didnt he transfer alot of horses to jenn illeagally
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didnt he transfer alot of horses to jenn illeagally
King gural says it's OK with him so everything is good. ngc3 ngc3
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the family should be banded
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I DONT BELIEVE IT,,,,,HARD WORKING FAMILY
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I DONT BELIEVE IT,,,,,HARD WORKING FAMILY
Believe it, it’s time to have the family banded
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Believe it, it’s time to have the family banded
agree,
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the family should be banded
gural would NEVER allow that. Bob is gold to gural. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Gural can go to the same place as the Bongiorno's
I doubt we could be that lucky. 73cv.2 73cv.2
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No criminal behavior
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No criminal behavior
Never is. Just ask their lawyer.
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Gural may have to sever ties this time .
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Gural may have to sever ties this time .
We'll see. But I certainly wouldn't bet on that.
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How can they let someone continue to race after they have stiffed the vet, trainers, owners, farms, and the public? This is bad for the sport in general and shouldn't remotely be tolerated. Bill Cosby just was convicted because 100's of women came forward. Do you really think all these people that Bongiorno stole from are lying? Bernie Madoff was believable until it all unraveled too!
It is incredible that Gural allowed him to race initially, based on bongiorno' s history in the state the public "integrity" crusade
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Gural is a hypocritical if he doesn’t ban him
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The proof is in the charges that were posted here earlier .
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we will see about the 20% number, sounds very light .
Do you know how Ponzi schemes work?
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Not all investments are successful. Business models fail and it may not be an integrity issue. Please show some proof of fraud as you throw this guy under the bus. I have no dog in this fight.
If you're taking on that many investors you have a fiduciary responsibility to them. I'd be curious to access the filings but I don't have access to my PACER account at the moment. If anyone else does, here's the reference #s
https://www.open-public-records.com/court/new-jersey-16586887.htm
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Not all investments are successful. Business models fail and it may not be an integrity issue. Please show some proof of fraud as you throw this guy under the bus. I have no dog in this fight.
When a person gets a 10 YEAR SUSPENSION FOR NEFARIOUS ACTS TO HARNESS RACING, it's pretty OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE who wants to see the truth. AND THAT was BEFORE this latest endeavor.
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NJ should have him banded, can't leave this up to Gural
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Lesson learned when someone asks you for your money tell them to put a egg in their shoe & beat it. If they are so smart why do they need someone elses money.
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Lesson learned when someone asks you for your money tell them to put a egg in their shoe & beat it. If they are so smart why do they need someone elses money.
GOOD LOGIC tmbz1
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i really hope they lock jenn up also for taking ownership of all those horses ,i think the rico law should come into play
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Dirt bag just like his butcher son
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Leave him alone
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Hope "BUBBA" and his jail friends can put Jenn's high heels to good use 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Is he in jail now ?
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He has criminal.charges ?
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no! Hes trying to declare bankruptcy. Good luck with that so he can rid himself of all this debt .
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Is he seeking chapter 11 bankruptcy protection or Chapter 7? Is he seeking personal bankruptcy or corporate? All as different as day and night?
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Either way alot of people aren't not going to get paid.
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was in the same barn with bongiornp back in the 80's at gaitway. he was living with Brenda, pete sieman's ex Canadian girlfriend then. thing I remember most was he could never look you straight in the eye. big hairy eyebrows.
those were the days"
him
lapouf
gelrod
pelling
Elliot
some crew
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Leave him alone
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Just an innocent guy huh? 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Where's gural ? NO comment on his "buddy"?
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ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Just an innocent guy huh? 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Where's gural ? NO comment on his "buddy"?
Gooooofffffrrrraa aalllllllll INC mentioned anywhere close to this situation, the FINE people of KNEW JOOOEEEERRRRSSSEE EEYYYYYY will make sure
(http://funds.gfmcdn.com/7926315_1451529316.773.jpg) 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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getting a casino, matter of time
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getting a casino, matter of time
Don’t hold your breathe
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His partners got one in A/c opening next month.
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Steve sm8th lost $$$$
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Steve sm8th lost $$$$
Many did
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Do we know of a list and how much ?
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Bob and the Joe are just scum and Jenn doesn't have a clue just there to save money, they don't have to pay someone to beard for them any more. It'll be very interesting to see if the commission investigates the money trail of ownership and bills.
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Bob and the Joe are just scum and Jenn doesn't have a clue just there to save money, they don't have to pay someone to beard for them any more. It'll be very interesting to see if the commission investigates the money trail of ownership and bills.
irs says they are
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Will Bobby be joining his sister? https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2014/12/09/madoff-assistant-annette-bongiorno-sentenced-to-6-years/#547b0093881e
Yes, that's his sister.
It's a family affair
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i really hope they lock jenn up also for taking ownership of all those horses ,i think the rico law should come into play
DONT BRING RICO INTO THIS, HES GOOD PEOPLE
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DONT BRING RICO INTO THIS, HES GOOD PEOPLE
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tmbz1
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That name. LOVE IT. Reminds JOHN FRANK ARMY of JOEY THE CLOWN.
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will the irs catch jenn and bob
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How is he not godfathered
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Any updates on this