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Title: Gambling Ideas for Tracks
Post by: whiptherabbit on October 22, 2026, 12:45:31 PM
What is everyone’s thoughts for changes they’d like to see to wagers offered? Obviously everyone likes the lower take outs.

I like Western Fair doing the late Pick 3 as a $2 minimum. I’d like to see the Pick 5 and Pick 6 be offered up .50 cent minimum bets, it would cause way more carry overs increasing the pools.

Obviously at WEG get rid of the Swinger garbage, terrible wager. I think all pick 3’s should be $1 minimum as well, $2 doubles etc.
Title: Re: Gambling Ideas for Tracks
Post by: JL52 on October 22, 2026, 01:27:02 PM
I will never understand the Swinger bet. I think it is more popular in Europe, but if tracks which offer it don’t see any response, why bother? For me, I would eliminate show wagering, too.
Title: Re: Gambling Ideas for Tracks
Post by: Trigger on October 22, 2026, 01:31:06 PM
Guaranteed pools and no take out as a settlement for the years of cheating...not forever, just for my entire lifetime.

What's the point of wagering if the drugs and cheating don't stop so kill those mother fuckers.  8)
Title: Re: Gambling Ideas for Tracks
Post by: darnoldrocks on October 22, 2026, 01:56:12 PM
Guaranteed pools and no take out as a settlement for the years of cheating...not forever, just for my entire lifetime.

What's the point of wagering if the drugs and cheating don't stop so kill those mother fuckers.  8)

You and SCM are very similar.
SCM loved harness racing until he was thrown off of farm properties.   Now he wants to bring it down.
You loved harness racing until it became clear you were losing your shirt betting.  Now you hate the industry and everyone's a cheat, although you've never met any of them. 
Title: Re: Gambling Ideas for Tracks
Post by: Checked Up on October 22, 2026, 02:16:08 PM
By eliminating the SHOW bet we loose the chance to capture a new regular to the Tracks Imo. Newbies are not as concerned about a low ROI as they are about losing money.  From my observations of 44 years in the game, a newbie will become a regular once they get come confidence that it is possible to make more money by expanding their knowledge of how things work!
Title: Re: Gambling Ideas for Tracks
Post by: Trigger on October 22, 2026, 03:03:43 PM
You and SCM are very similar.
SCM loved harness racing until he was thrown off of farm properties.   Now he wants to bring it down.
You loved harness racing until it became clear you were losing your shirt betting.  Now you hate the industry and everyone's a cheat, although you've never met any of them.

I met plenty of them.

I don't need to meet your grandson to know you're a child molester.
Title: Re: Gambling Ideas for Tracks
Post by: wiggles44 on October 22, 2026, 03:06:12 PM
I met plenty of them.

I don't need to meet your grandson to know you're a child molester.
The EAA won’t like reading this Mike
:)
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