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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: G on August 30, 2026, 10:27:58 AM
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Lou Guida was a pioneering harness racing owner and Hall of Famer who revolutionized the sport by introducing high-stakes, Wall Street style syndication. Lou changed how standardbred horses were bought, sold, and bred.
Lou and I were very good friends,,, we put a couple of really good deals together that benefited both of us!
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Lou Guida was a pioneering harness racing owner and Hall of Famer who revolutionized the sport by introducing high-stakes, Wall Street style syndication. Lou changed how standardbred horses were bought, sold, and bred.
Lou and I were very good friends,,, we put a couple of really good deals together that benefited both of us!
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this is why you’re in the predicament that you’re in! Nobody asked about your comments and yes, I did look up my friend on Google. Is there a crime against that?
You really are a dumb motherfucker.
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this is why you’re in the predicament that you’re in! Nobody asked about your comments and yes, I did look up my friend on Google. Is there a crime against that?
You really are a dumb motherfucker.
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Michael Petrelli is a New York equine-welfare advocate and former Standardbred owner and trainer. He founded Equine Advocacy Alliance, an organization focused primarily on carriage-horse welfare and reform within harness racing.
His advocacy has two principal areas:
New York City carriage horses: Petrelli has spent several years observing and recording carriage horses around Central Park and Midtown. He has publicly reported horses he believed showed lameness, damaged hooves, wounds, exhaustion or inadequate body condition. ABC7 and CBS New York have featured his observations and comments.
Harness racing: Drawing on his experience as a Standardbred owner and trainer, he campaigns against performance-enhancing drugs, regulatory failures and the mistreatment or disposal of horses after racing. He has also organized petitions calling for greater accountability and reconsideration of public subsidies for racing.
In 2023, Petrelli released findings from a months-long investigation of the carriage industry. He presented videos of horses he believed needed veterinary attention and characterized their condition as an animal-welfare emergency. Carriage-industry representatives disputed some of his assessments, stating that the horses had received veterinary and farrier care.
More recently, Petrelli has represented Equine Advocacy Alliance in the campaign for Romanch’s Law, formerly Ryder’s Law, which would end NYC’s commercial horse-carriage industry. Following the fatal 2026 Central Park carriage incident, CBS identified him as an Equine Advocacy Alliance representative commenting on the industry’s safety record. He also testified before the New York City Council as a panelist invited by Speaker Julie Menin, describing himself as an experienced horseman and arguing that neither training nor additional regulation can eliminate a horse’s instinctive flight response in Manhattan.
Overall, Petrelli is best characterized as a persistent, outspoken advocate who combines hands-on horse experience with video documentation, public testimony, news appearances and political campaigning. His supporters view him as a horseman willing to challenge powerful racing and carriage interests. His critics—particularly within those industries—dispute some of his conclusions and confrontational methods. Anonymous forum accusations should not be treated as established facts without independent documentation.
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ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 any idiot can tell it’s a AI composition. Just get a fucking job.
I didn't see you with the Governor at any of the NYC Council hearings regarding carriage horses. Who said it wasn't AI???? Yes, it's ChatGPT....are you that stupid???
Michael Petrelli is a New York equine-welfare advocate and former Standardbred owner and trainer. He founded Equine Advocacy Alliance, an organization focused primarily on carriage-horse welfare and reform within harness racing.
His advocacy has two principal areas:
New York City carriage horses: Petrelli has spent several years observing and recording carriage horses around Central Park and Midtown. He has publicly reported horses he believed showed lameness, damaged hooves, wounds, exhaustion or inadequate body condition. ABC7 and CBS New York have featured his observations and comments.
Harness racing: Drawing on his experience as a Standardbred owner and trainer, he campaigns against performance-enhancing drugs, regulatory failures and the mistreatment or disposal of horses after racing. He has also organized petitions calling for greater accountability and reconsideration of public subsidies for racing.
In 2023, Petrelli released findings from a months-long investigation of the carriage industry. He presented videos of horses he believed needed veterinary attention and characterized their condition as an animal-welfare emergency. Carriage-industry representatives disputed some of his assessments, stating that the horses had received veterinary and farrier care.
More recently, Petrelli has represented Equine Advocacy Alliance in the campaign for Romanch’s Law, formerly Ryder’s Law, which would end NYC’s commercial horse-carriage industry. Following the fatal 2026 Central Park carriage incident, CBS identified him as an Equine Advocacy Alliance representative commenting on the industry’s safety record. He also testified before the New York City Council as a panelist invited by Speaker Julie Menin, describing himself as an experienced horseman and arguing that neither training nor additional regulation can eliminate a horse’s instinctive flight response in Manhattan.
Overall, Petrelli is best characterized as a persistent, outspoken advocate who combines hands-on horse experience with video documentation, public testimony, news appearances and political campaigning. His supporters view him as a horseman willing to challenge powerful racing and carriage interests. His critics—particularly within those industries—dispute some of his conclusions and confrontational methods. Anonymous forum accusations should not be treated as established facts without independent documentation.
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Lou Guida was a pioneering harness racing owner and Hall of Famer who revolutionized the sport by introducing high-stakes, Wall Street style syndication. Lou changed how standardbred horses were bought, sold, and bred.
Lou and I were very good friends,,, we put a couple of really good deals together that benefited both of us!
Can you name just one?
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Lou Guida was a pioneering harness racing owner and Hall of Famer who revolutionized the sport by introducing high-stakes, Wall Street style syndication. Lou changed how standardbred horses were bought, sold, and bred.
Lou and I were very good friends,,, we put a couple of really good deals together that benefited both of us!
We should celebrate how he tried to steal the very first Breeders Crown for two year old pacers for Nihilator with his five horse entry.
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We should celebrate how he tried to steal the very first Breeders Crown for two year old pacers for Nihilator with his five horse entry.
You might be thinking of Nihilator's Woodrow Wilson or Meadowlands Pace. As a 2yo, IIRC, Nihilator raced uncoupled in the BC (and got beat by Dragon's Lair of course). As a 3yo, he was part of a two horse entry with Chairmanoftheboar d. They finished 1-2.
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You might be thinking of Nihilator's Woodrow Wilson or Meadowlands Pace. As a 2yo, Nihilator raced uncoupled in the BC, and got beat by Dragon's Lair. As a 3yo, he was part of a two horse entry with Chairmanoftheboar d. They finished 1-2.
Guida entered FIVE HORSES in that Breeders Crown which was a two heat race. Three of them made the final and one was used a a sacrificial lamb to park Dragon's Lair to the quarter. Jeff Mallet had trained Dragon's Lair to go two heats so he still was able to win.
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Guida entered FIVE HORSES in that Breeders Crown which was a two heat race. Three of them made the final and one was used a a sacrificial lamb to park Dragon's Lair to the quarter. Jeff Mallet had trained Dragon's Lair to go two heats so he still was able to win.
Pershing Square. All those colts were named for streets and places in Manhattan.
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Pershing Square. All those colts were named for streets and places in Manhattan.
Pershing Square parked Dragon's Lair to the quarter but Dragon's Lair still won. There was a bridge jumper in that race who almost had a huge loss!
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Pershing Square parked Dragon's Lair to the quarter but Dragon's Lair still won. There was a bridge jumper in that race who almost had a huge loss!
Yes...Pershing Square was in the other elimination.
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Hell of a final, LOL.
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Guida had Flight of Fire as well from that first crop of Niatross! Forgot about him, LOL.
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Hell of a final, LOL.
It was since Pershing Square tried to kill Dragon's Lair and Jeff Mallett showed him where to stick it.
Always worth watching again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwUV3GVOehw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZrb-90nXoU
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Lou was a master when it came to putting deals together!
Everybody forgets that he started the syndication phenomenon.
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Lou was the first mega owner.
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Agreed. Lou was a winner and I have had the honor of being very close to Lou for over 50 plus years!!! Many people did not understand Lou and his methods as they were advanced by many generations!! I was fortunate to have completed tens of millions of dollars in transactions with Lou from ski resorts and hotels and racetracks and millions invested in these racehorses!!
Lou, you were the best and I miss our days on Wall Street to our breakfast meetings at the FLAMINGO!!
RIP my friend!
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Agreed. Lou was a winner and I have had the honor of being very close to Lou for over 50 plus years!!! Many people did not understand Lou and his methods as they were advanced by many generations!! I was fortunate to have completed tens of millions of dollars in transactions with Lou from ski resorts and hotels and racetracks and millions invested in these racehorses!!
Lou, you were the best and I miss our days on Wall Street to our breakfast meetings at the FLAMINGO!!
RIP my friend!
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 Lou was a class act and certainly an asset to harness racing.
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tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 Lou was a class act and certainly an asset to harness racing.
SHOW UP PUSSY!!!!
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SHOW UP PUSSY!!!!
why do you think every post is about you? Lou would take one look at you and roll his eyes and move on. He had the inept ability to spot a loser a mile away
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why do you think every post is about you? Lou would take one look at you and roll his eyes and move on. He had the inept ability to spot a loser a mile away
How long is your parole???
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SHOW UP PUSSY!!!!
why do you have to turn every post into it's all about you? Can't we have a rational discussion about my good friend Lou without you opening your dumb fucking mouth?
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Lou doesn't know you from the big pile of manure on FATSO's farm.
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Mikeeee this is why you’re always in trouble. Why are you even commenting? This site has absolutely nothing to do with you.
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didn't Guida cheat Elsie Berger out of a lot of money or was that someone else?
serious question not being sarcastic
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didn't Guida cheat Elsie Berger out of a lot of money or was that someone else?
serious question not being sarcastic
Guida syndicated Niatross. The way I remember it, and from what I read in the legal documents, originally, Berger owned 100% of the horse, and "gave" a 50% interest to Clint, allegedly, when Niatross was a yearling. Clint had a very long-standing relationship with Berger and had trained for her for many years. They were very close. Clint wanted to buy into the horse as a yearling or when he was being broke, and Berger allegedly "gifted" Clint a 50% interest and part of the deal was that Clint would not charge any training bill for the horse.
When Niatross made the races, after he won about 6 or 7 in a row, Guida came calling, LOL. Guida put together a partnership, and bought a 50% interest (25% each coming from Berger and Clint) for $2.5m, which gave him exclusive rights to syndicate the horse. Allegedly Guida was supposed to be the managing partner because it was made clear to everyone that if the horse continued to succeed, he was going to syndicate the horse.....which he ended up doing. The syndication was a separate and distinct deal from Guida's initial purchase.
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Like him or not, Guida was the first person to bring "Wall Street" to the harness game. Even before his LPG, Wall St. Stable, and his ownership and syndication activities, he got several investment firms to create private placements/LP's in the standardbred business. Guida was very, very entrepreneurial, even going as far as putting together a group to buy the Philadelphia Eagles.....which I think he technically owned for one day, LOL.
When he started to step up his ownership, and get much bigger, his own partnerships for ownership, and his syndication deals, changed the landscape of the harness game. His buying for his partnerships changed the marketplace, and it was very, very difficult to buy good horses because he was already on them.
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Like him or not, Guida was the first person to bring "Wall Street" to the harness game. Even before his LPG, Wall St. Stable, and his ownership and syndication activities, he got several investment firms to create private placements/LP's in the standardbred business. Guida was very, very entrepreneurial, even going as far as putting together a group to buy the Philadelphia Eagles.....which I think he technically owned for one day, LOL.
When he started to step up his ownership, and get much bigger, his own partnerships for ownership, and his syndication deals, changed the landscape of the harness game. His buying for his partnerships changed the marketplace, and it was very, very difficult to buy good horses because he was already on them.
I agree Lou was a genius!
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Lou brought huge Wall Street money to the table. Many investors for the first time in the industry. These were investors--doctors--lawyers--professionals folks into a new type opportunity. Heavily involved in SARATOGA STANDARDBREDS and John Signorelli as well as ALMAHURST FARMS and P.J. Baugh-----both fantastic gentlemen and wonderful humans! John in fact had a patent on the PVC pipe white picket fence and had SARATOGA listed for public trading. Jack Baugh did tens of millions of dollars in business in the ALMAHURST LP PROGRAMS of which Lou managed. These folks were strong financially and Lou brought this type into the business and then they brought their friends into the business. Lou even hired publicist to advertise and market the horses. They even created the song-----"NIHILATOR!' I believe I still have the tapes of the song.
Lou did buy the EAGLES for $20 million----he had length the owner approximately $20 million to resolve some personal debt and used the EAGLES as collateral as per Lou. I assume that Lou eventually sold back---much more to the facts except I believe in letting these folks RIP. Either way Lou did own the EAGLES at one point. Lou made a fortune on car washes and a finance company in New Jersey many years after shining shoes in Jersey on the boardwalk at his dads barber shop.
The lawsuit with Ms. Berger and Clint never should of occurred but it did and was resolved and Lou continued with his ownership group of Nihilator and the folks listed above were heavily involved as well Again, all these folks were great for this business.
lou eventually opened a stable in Italy and was extremely successful with Jerry Riordan who trained horses for Lou for many years. In later years we attempted to buy the Italian Racing Stable that was very successful but came close but never closed i was so lucky to spend over 50 years as a very close friend to Lou and his wonderful family. They truly were all wonderful folks and it was folks like Mr. Guida that inspired many to attempt to revolutionize the sport!
God, there will never be another era like the good old days!
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Lou brought huge Wall Street money to the table. Many investors for the first time in the industry. These were investors--doctors--lawyers--professionals folks into a new type opportunity. Heavily involved in SARATOGA STANDARDBREDS and John Signorelli as well as ALMAHURST FARMS and P.J. Baugh-----both fantastic gentlemen and wonderful humans! John in fact had a patent on the PVC pipe white picket fence and had SARATOGA listed for public trading. Jack Baugh did tens of millions of dollars in business in the ALMAHURST LP PROGRAMS of which Lou managed. These folks were strong financially and Lou brought this type into the business and then they brought their friends into the business. Lou even hired publicist to advertise and market the horses. They even created the song-----"NIHILATOR!' I believe I still have the tapes of the song.
Lou did buy the EAGLES for $20 million----he had length the owner approximately $20 million to resolve some personal debt and used the EAGLES as collateral as per Lou. I assume that Lou eventually sold back---much more to the facts except I believe in letting these folks RIP. Either way Lou did own the EAGLES at one point. Lou made a fortune on car washes and a finance company in New Jersey many years after shining shoes in Jersey on the boardwalk at his dads barber shop.
The lawsuit with Ms. Berger and Clint never should of occurred but it did and was resolved and Lou continued with his ownership group of Nihilator and the folks listed above were heavily involved as well Again, all these folks were great for this business.
lou eventually opened a stable in Italy and was extremely successful with Jerry Riordan who trained horses for Lou for many years. In later years we attempted to buy the Italian Racing Stable that was very successful but came close but never closed i was so lucky to spend over 50 years as a very close friend to Lou and his wonderful family. They truly were all wonderful folks and it was folks like Mr. Guida that inspired many to attempt to revolutionize the sport!
God, there will never be another era like the good old days!
tmbz1 tmbz1 What a great post! You are right on the money
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Lou brought huge Wall Street money to the table. Many investors for the first time in the industry. These were investors--doctors--lawyers--professionals folks into a new type opportunity. Heavily involved in SARATOGA STANDARDBREDS and John Signorelli as well as ALMAHURST FARMS and P.J. Baugh-----both fantastic gentlemen and wonderful humans! John in fact had a patent on the PVC pipe white picket fence and had SARATOGA listed for public trading. Jack Baugh did tens of millions of dollars in business in the ALMAHURST LP PROGRAMS of which Lou managed. These folks were strong financially and Lou brought this type into the business and then they brought their friends into the business. Lou even hired publicist to advertise and market the horses. They even created the song-----"NIHILATOR!' I believe I still have the tapes of the song.
Lou did buy the EAGLES for $20 million----he had length the owner approximately $20 million to resolve some personal debt and used the EAGLES as collateral as per Lou. I assume that Lou eventually sold back---much more to the facts except I believe in letting these folks RIP. Either way Lou did own the EAGLES at one point. Lou made a fortune on car washes and a finance company in New Jersey many years after shining shoes in Jersey on the boardwalk at his dads barber shop.
The lawsuit with Ms. Berger and Clint never should of occurred but it did and was resolved and Lou continued with his ownership group of Nihilator and the folks listed above were heavily involved as well Again, all these folks were great for this business.
lou eventually opened a stable in Italy and was extremely successful with Jerry Riordan who trained horses for Lou for many years. In later years we attempted to buy the Italian Racing Stable that was very successful but came close but never closed i was so lucky to spend over 50 years as a very close friend to Lou and his wonderful family. They truly were all wonderful folks and it was folks like Mr. Guida that inspired many to attempt to revolutionize the sport!
God, there will never be another era like the good old days!
From what I’m reading here, you must know who G is since he said he put several deals together with Lou.
True?
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From what I’m reading here, you must know who G is since he said he put several deals together with Lou.
True?
"G" is the most well-connected person in harness racing, just ask him. He has so many good friends they have to make appointments with him to have lunch. He's booked solid the rest of the year.
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Don't forget everyone.....whil e Guida was a massive force in the standardbred game.....he also had interests in two t-bred tracks!
At one time, through the "Laurel-Guida Group" he had a 50% interest in Laurel, and also owned a minority interest in Pimlico. He ended up selling both interests. Guida also tried to buy Rosecroft (when Mark Vogel tried to sell the track after filing for bankruptcy). He wasn't able to pull it off, but he tried! LOL.
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And, let's not forget.....Ken Seeber turned trainer for Lou! LOL.
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And, let's not forget.....Ken Seeber turned trainer for Lou! LOL.
you have definitely been around! Let's not forget his assistant Vic who became a great veterinarian.
Both Ken and Vic were very good friends of mine.
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Can't say I specifically remember Vic. I didn't know Dr. Seeber very well. Like with virtually everyone else, just from being around the track and in the business for many years. The one assistant I do remember meeting and actually getting to know a bit-----and personally, I think he was perhaps Dr. Seeber's best protege who went on to be a top/leading vet-----had the initials SA.
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Lou brought huge Wall Street money to the table. Many investors for the first time in the industry. These were investors--doctors--lawyers--professionals folks into a new type opportunity. Heavily involved in SARATOGA STANDARDBREDS and John Signorelli as well as ALMAHURST FARMS and P.J. Baugh-----both fantastic gentlemen and wonderful humans! John in fact had a patent on the PVC pipe white picket fence and had SARATOGA listed for public trading. Jack Baugh did tens of millions of dollars in business in the ALMAHURST LP PROGRAMS of which Lou managed. These folks were strong financially and Lou brought this type into the business and then they brought their friends into the business. Lou even hired publicist to advertise and market the horses. They even created the song-----"NIHILATOR!' I believe I still have the tapes of the song.
Lou did buy the EAGLES for $20 million----he had length the owner approximately $20 million to resolve some personal debt and used the EAGLES as collateral as per Lou. I assume that Lou eventually sold back---much more to the facts except I believe in letting these folks RIP. Either way Lou did own the EAGLES at one point. Lou made a fortune on car washes and a finance company in New Jersey many years after shining shoes in Jersey on the boardwalk at his dads barber shop.
The lawsuit with Ms. Berger and Clint never should of occurred but it did and was resolved and Lou continued with his ownership group of Nihilator and the folks listed above were heavily involved as well Again, all these folks were great for this business.
lou eventually opened a stable in Italy and was extremely successful with Jerry Riordan who trained horses for Lou for many years. In later years we attempted to buy the Italian Racing Stable that was very successful but came close but never closed i was so lucky to spend over 50 years as a very close friend to Lou and his wonderful family. They truly were all wonderful folks and it was folks like Mr. Guida that inspired many to attempt to revolutionize the sport!
God, there will never be another era like the good old days!
This is an amazing post by a poster that is knowledgeable!
I’m pretty sure I know who you are and you probably know who I am but I could tell you one thing this is a well written poster that really knows Lou!
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Can't say I specifically remember Vic. I didn't know Dr. Seeber very well. Like with virtually everyone else, just from being around the track and in the business for many years. The one assistant I do remember meeting and actually getting to know a bit-----and personally, I think he was perhaps Dr. Seeber's best protege who went on to be a top/leading vet-----had the initials SA.
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Can't say I specifically remember Vic. I didn't know Dr. Seeber very well. Like with virtually everyone else, just from being around the track and in the business for many years. The one assistant I do remember meeting and actually getting to know a bit-----and personally, I think he was perhaps Dr. Seeber's best protege who went on to be a top/leading vet-----had the initials SA.
I always got along with Seeber but he wasn’t the easiest guy in the world to deal with the times to save the least.
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From what I’m reading here, you must know who G is since he said he put several deals together with Lou.
True?
i’m sure he does but why do you give a shit!?
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i’m sure he does but why do you give a shit!?
Notice Counselor hasn’t answered, that’s why.
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Like I said, I didn't know him well. While he was a practicing vet, he was always based out of his farm/clinic so it's not like he was on track (at the Meadowlands, Red Mile, etc.) every day, but he was there a lot. He was a fixture at the sales and during the grand circuit. I did find it very interesting when he became a trainer. Many said it was a natural fit, but I didn't think so. You wake up one morning and now you can train, manage, campaign, etc., top stakes horses. Doesn't add up for me, LOL. But he did it.
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Like I said, I didn't know him well. While he was a practicing vet, he was always based out of his farm/clinic so it's not like he was on track (at the Meadowlands, Red Mile, etc.) every day, but he was there a lot. He was a fixture at the sales and during the grand circuit. I did find it very interesting when he became a trainer. Many said it was a natural fit, but I didn't think so. You wake up one morning and now you can train, manage, campaign, etc., top stakes horses. Doesn't add up for me, LOL. But he did it.
I think Ken got bored and wanted a new challenges
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I remember when Guida was buying top horses all over. I had success buying ready made horses and that was always my business model. I wasn't a yearling guy, LOL. But Guida changed that marketplace. It exploded. It became next to impossible to buy a top horse already on the track.
I had seen a 2yo in PA, who looked like he had a lot of potential. By a backyard stud, unraced, but the colt was fast, and looked like he could be a good one. I made a call, and so did others, and he was for sale, but the seller was a shrewd guy. Guida bought the colt for $250k-----which was really a lot of money at the time, especially for a 2yo, by a no name stallion...but Guida did well with Jake and Elwood. I think he earned the entire investment back in about a month or so, LOL.
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Lou then purchased Jakes Daddy!! Then attempted to make him a commercial sire!!
SAMADHI!
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I remember when Guida was buying top horses all over. I had success buying ready made horses and that was always my business model. I wasn't a yearling guy, LOL. But Guida changed that marketplace. It exploded. It became next to impossible to buy a top horse already on the track.
I had seen a 2yo in PA, who looked like he had a lot of potential. By a backyard stud, unraced, but the colt was fast, and looked like he could be a good one. I made a call, and so did others, and he was for sale, but the seller was a shrewd guy. Guida bought the colt for $250k-----which was really a lot of money at the time, especially for a 2yo, by a no name stallion...but Guida did well with Jake and Elwood. I think he earned the entire investment back in about a month or so, LOL.
Louis was so sharp and let's not forget he started the syndication craze
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Yes he did. Who would have thought.....it all started with.....none other than BG's Bunny! LOL. The first was a very simple deal, kind of a basic "syndication" of sorts. He did that deal with Phil Tully, and Bob Greenberg, the owner of BG's Bunny kind of stayed in the deal, at least to some extent. But the first real Wall St. style syndication deal Guida did was Sonsam. He revolutionized the breeding industry when he developed the syndication model.
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Yes he did. Who would have thought.....it all started with.....none other than BG's Bunny! LOL. The first was a very simple deal, kind of a basic "syndication" of sorts. He did that deal with Phil Tully, and Bob Greenberg, the owner of BG's Bunny kind of stayed in the deal, at least to some extent. But the first real Wall St. style syndication deal Guida did was Sonsam. He revolutionized the breeding industry when he developed the syndication model.
you are a very sharp poster! You’ve definitely been around
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Thanks. Been in the game for a long time, LOL. I was a buyer of shares way back, not to breed though, and only on game changers.....at least those who I thought would be a game changer, LOL. George Berkner was a friend of mine from way back, but I didn't go in on the BG's Bunny deal. Tully was pushing those shares like they were gold, but I wasn't a buyer. I didn't think Bunny would be a game changer. This was also before the USTA cap on mares bred, and Guida's model for BG's Bunny was to breed as many mares as possible to maximize income. I think in his first few years at stud Bunny bred over 300 mares each year.
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Thanks. Been in the game for a long time, LOL. I was a buyer of shares way back, not to breed though, and only on game changers.....at least those who I thought would be a game changer, LOL. George Berkner was a friend of mine from way back, but I didn't go in on the BG's Bunny deal. Tully was pushing those shares like they were gold, but I wasn't a buyer. I didn't think Bunny would be a game changer. This was also before the USTA cap on mares bred, and Guida's model for BG's Bunny was to breed as many mares as possible to maximize income. I think in his first few years at stud Bunny bred over 300 mares each year.
A lot of Bunnies offsprings had a Roman nose some big ears. There was a few that were very very fast.
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Tell Jones and Casale there are people in the Village who have some questions regarding the Police vs. Firefighters Tug Of War day that was cancelled and why? I have 5000 reasons to ask. tmbz1
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Bunny threw some horses here and there. I remember one specifically..... Armbro Hunch.....who I actually had an early heads up on. He had the makings of a top colt. Very talented 2yo, and Benoit Cote came to NJ to drive him. I remember his first start at the Meadowlands and George Berkner was at the track and got a big kick out of it. Like a proud pappa, LOL.
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Bunny threw some horses here and there. I remember one specifically..... Armbro Hunch.....who I actually had an early heads up on. He had the makings of a top colt. Very talented 2yo, and Benoit Cote came to NJ to drive him. I remember his first start at the Meadowlands and George Berkner was at the track and got a big kick out of it. Like a proud pappa, LOL.
Benoit Cote -George Berkner now those are two names that brought back some memories.
I remember quite well when Cote came down to drive that colt. George had a lot to be desired as far as a driver goes.
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Normand Masse trained Armbro Hunch for Jean-Guy Girard. He owned nightclubs in Montreal and did very well. Masse picked out Armbro Hunch as a yearling and bought him for (I think $18k or $19k). Why Armstrong bred a mare to BG's Bunny was beyond me, LOL. But he turned out to be a very, very good colt. Masse used Cote a lot at BB, especially with his 2yo's. Cote was a tremendous horsemen and really knew how to drive 2yo's to educate them, teach them, etc. He wasn't a modern day catch driver, but he was very, very good, and he could drive a good horse as good as anyone. He agreed to stick with Armbro Hunch and he had an amazing 2yo campaign. He won every start except two, but he raced a lot-----like 16 or 17 times-----and won multiple legs of the NJSS, the Prix de L'Avenir, and the Babic. He was a very serious horse. A few weeks after the Babic (I think it was the Babic), the colt died in his stall. Berkner just got a real kick out of the fact that BG's Bunny sired a top 2yo. He really enjoyed seeing that colt win at the Meadowlands. George was a character. He lived a very colorful and interesting life, LOL.
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Normand Masse trained Armbro Hunch for Jean-Guy Girard. He owned nightclubs in Montreal and did very well. Masse picked out Armbro Hunch as a yearling and bought him for (I think $18k or $19k). Why Armstrong bred a mare to BG's Bunny was beyond me, LOL. But he turned out to be a very, very good colt. Masse used Cote a lot at BB, especially with his 2yo's. Cote was a tremendous horsemen and really knew how to drive 2yo's to educate them, teach them, etc. He wasn't a modern day catch driver, but he was very, very good, and he could drive a good horse as good as anyone. He agreed to stick with Armbro Hunch and he had an amazing 2yo campaign. He won every start except two, but he raced a lot-----like 16 or 17 times-----and won multiple legs of the NJSS, the Prix de L'Avenir, and the Babic. He was a very serious horse. A few weeks after the Babic (I think it was the Babic), the colt died in his stall. Berkner just got a real kick out of the fact that BG's Bunny sired a top 2yo. He really enjoyed seeing that colt win at the Meadowlands. George was a character. He lived a very colorful and interesting life, LOL.
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Normand Masse trained Armbro Hunch for Jean-Guy Girard. He owned nightclubs in Montreal and did very well. Masse picked out Armbro Hunch as a yearling and bought him for (I think $18k or $19k). Why Armstrong bred a mare to BG's Bunny was beyond me, LOL. But he turned out to be a very, very good colt. Masse used Cote a lot at BB, especially with his 2yo's. Cote was a tremendous horsemen and really knew how to drive 2yo's to educate them, teach them, etc. He wasn't a modern day catch driver, but he was very, very good, and he could drive a good horse as good as anyone. He agreed to stick with Armbro Hunch and he had an amazing 2yo campaign. He won every start except two, but he raced a lot-----like 16 or 17 times-----and won multiple legs of the NJSS, the Prix de L'Avenir, and the Babic. He was a very serious horse. A few weeks after the Babic (I think it was the Babic), the colt died in his stall. Berkner just got a real kick out of the fact that BG's Bunny sired a top 2yo. He really enjoyed seeing that colt win at the Meadowlands. George was a character. He lived a very colorful and interesting life, LOL.
you really are just the both of information! I really enjoy reading your comments
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Berkner was a real character. We knew each other from our early days in the game as we were both NY'er's and part of that NY crowd that went from the NY tracks to the Meadowlands. George actually had a small interest in Tully's sale company. I don't know the details, but it may have been a result of the BG's Bunny deal. Guida did too. I think both got out when Tully sold out to PEM. Not sure. But George was a character who always found a way to make a good living in this business. After his heart attack he started to play a different kind of role, but he still was a hands-on manager. Even in 1988 when he came up with Goalie Jeff and Hit The Bid, George managed both, but I don't know that he was sitting behind them for their serious training miles. But George not only trained them, he owned a piece of each as well. He put together the partnership and bought both as yearlings. He continued to come up with a good horse every few years after that, including San Gimignano, BG's Folly” and later on Rockeyed Optimist, and in his later years he handed off the training to others.
Sadly, George died 10 years ago this past July. The funeral was in Asbury Park down where he lived and what a lot of people don't know is that in his later years he was active and supported Heading for Home Racehorse Adoption Center, which brought together retired racehorses with disabled children.
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Berkner was a real character. We knew each other from our early days in the game as we were both NY'er's and part of that NY crowd that went from the NY tracks to the Meadowlands. George actually had a small interest in Tully's sale company. I don't know the details, but it may have been a result of the BG's Bunny deal. Guida did too. I think both got out when Tully sold out to PEM. Not sure. But George was a character who always found a way to make a good living in this business. After his heart attack he started to play a different kind of role, but he still was a hands-on manager. Even in 1988 when he came up with Goalie Jeff and Hit The Bid, George managed both, but I don't know that he was sitting behind them for their serious training miles. But George not only trained them, he owned a piece of each as well. He put together the partnership and bought both as yearlings. He continued to come up with a good horse every few years after that, including San Gimignano, BG's Folly” and later on Rockeyed Optimist, and in his later years he handed off the training to others.
Sadly, George died 10 years ago this past July. The funeral was in Asbury Park down where he lived and what a lot of people don't know is that in his later years he was active and supported Heading for Home Racehorse Adoption Center, which brought together retired racehorses with disabled children.
You really knew George I didn't know him that well as we never did business together but I knew he was a character. I thought he was involved with Phil Tully now you have confirmed that.