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Title: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: Sweet on August 24, 2026, 04:33:16 PM
A 3yo four race pacing series, not 3 like the t-bred triple crown or whatever they're fucking doing now historically that "no one" follows...

Open to 3yo boy, girl horses and trans horses  ngc3

A big stakes on a...

1 mile
3/4
5/8
1/2

$1 mil purse each.

Same points / money rules as the KYD starting at 2 yo.

20 set to go in race one elims, each pay a $25k supplement each.  Narrow down to 8 and same day final.

20 entrants x 4 races x $25,000 = $2,000,000 four race winner take all bonus.

Plus the $500,000 winner share x 4 from the races = $2,000,000. 

Total $4,000,000 potential for one horse to win.  No winner of all four races bonus split it among the top 5 finishers of the four events like a purse.

One hour televised event for each racing series. Tape delay on the elims, and live final.

Race every 3 weeks and wrap up in 2 months.

One race bigger than the triple crown. (Actually 8 races as elim and final same day  tmbz1)

I like it - The Four Crown Jewels of Harness Racing.

4CJ  ;D

Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: ScrapeThePaint on August 24, 2026, 04:35:54 PM
MARK FORD WILL MAKE HARNESS RACING GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!  tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: toothman on August 24, 2026, 04:37:19 PM
A 3yo four race pacing series, not 3 like the t-bred triple crown or whatever they're fucking doing now historically that "no one" follows...

Open to 3yo boy, girl horses and trans horses  ngc3

A big stakes on a...

1 mile
3/4
5/8
1/2

$1 mil purse each.

Same points / money rules as the KYD starting at 2 yo.

20 set to go in race one elims, each pay a $25k supplement each.  Narrow down to 8 and same day final.

20 entrants x 4 races x $25,000 = $2,000,000 four race winner take all bonus.

Plus the $500,000 share x 4 from the races = $2,000,000. 

Total $4,000,000 potential for one horse to win.  No winner of all four races bonus split it among the top 5 finishers of the four events like a purse.

Two hour televised event for each racing series.

Race every 3 weeks and wrap up in 2 months.

One race bigger than the triple crown. (Actually 8 races as elim and final same day  tmbz1)

I like it - The Four Crown Jewels of Harness Racing.

4CJ  ;D

Send it over to the progressives at the USTA, Hambletonian and breeders crown committees


Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: Sweet on August 24, 2026, 04:43:21 PM
Send it over to the progressives at the USTA, Hambletonian and breeders crown committees

Make it a two hour event possibly.

Think of the fractional sales commercials who sponsor along with big name brands that want to be connected.

The phones, websites will be blowing up with new clientele to buy into a horse.

You want to save harness racing...just a thought  ;D

Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: Checked Up on August 27, 2026, 04:01:07 PM
Just send the Checks to the Burke Stable and save the wear and tear on the horses,equipment and everything else involved! tmbz1
Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: JT on August 27, 2026, 07:22:17 PM
I like the idea Trig
To bad the higher ups are completely out of ideas of what needs to change and how to go about doing it, to make racing even a little relevant again.
The only problem with an idea like this is the states sires stakes programs are so lucrative with purses and sometimes easier fields
You try to solve that by huge purses and bonuses

I got your tracks
Mile: Meadowlands
7/8: Mohawk
5/8 :Meadows or Pocono or Oak Grove
1/2: Delaware of course  ;D
Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: Sweet on August 27, 2026, 07:27:17 PM
I like the idea Trig
To bad the higher ups are completely out of ideas of what needs to change and how to go about doing it, to make racing even a little relevant again.
The only problem with an idea like this is the states sires stakes programs are so lucrative with purses and sometimes easier fields
You try to solve that by huge purses and bonuses

I got your tracks
Mile: Meadowlands
7/8: Mohawk Vernon Downs
5/8 :Meadows or Pocono or Oak Grove
1/2: Delaware of course  ;D

This is staying in the US.

They can run their horses.

They also have huge races, the Cup & Saucer  ngc3
Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: JT on August 27, 2026, 08:01:12 PM
This is staying in the US.

They can run their horses.

They also have huge races, the Cup & Saucer  ngc3
ngc3
Now I know why ya listed a 3/4 track
At least I got 3/4 correct  ngc3
That's a solid C average  tmbz1
Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: rainman2 on August 27, 2026, 08:08:07 PM
This is staying in the US.

They can run their horses.

They also have huge races, the Cup & Saucer  ngc3

Is Mohawk a 'fair playing' track?  Isn't the Mohawk first turn exactly the same as when it was greenwood? 

Does Vernon have a better surface than Mohawk/Hoosier?
Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: andrew on August 27, 2026, 08:10:12 PM

3 Q;s
Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: rainman2 on August 27, 2026, 08:11:52 PM
3 Q;s

hopefully people will respond!

Title: Re: 4CJ of Harness Racing 👑
Post by: Sweet on August 27, 2026, 08:49:02 PM
ngc3
Now I know why ya listed a 3/4 track
At least I got 3/4 correct  ngc3
That's a solid C average  tmbz1

 ngc3

I forgot Hoosier was a 3/4 track. 

I try to forget about Hoosier as much as possible  ngc3 unless I'm rooting Rocky's horses on or a horse or big stakes lands there.

The 4 Crown Jewels / 4 different track circumferences, rather than the 3c at 1 1/14, 1 3/16 and 1 1/2.

Track size based on draw, huge difference, facing a different type 1 mile challenge.

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