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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: themightythor on August 14, 2026, 03:48:08 PM
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handle,location are going to be issues,but the real problem is all the trotters who will be competing for the hambo will be racing half way across the country. 98% of hambo hopefuls are raised and raced on the east coast. most stables who compete in hambo dont stable anywhere near indy. how soon does melander,ake,toscano,pelling etc bitch about this.
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Bitch all they want. Signed and sealed for 3 years. Dry those tears. It will forgotten just like Freehold. 11.wp
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handle,location are going to be issues,but the real problem is all the trotters who will be competing for the hambo will be racing half way across the country. 98% of hambo hopefuls are raised and raced on the east coast. most stables who compete in hambo dont stable anywhere near indy. how soon does melander,ake,toscano,pelling etc bitch about this.
Seems like the one bitching the most is you.
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handle,location are going to be issues,but the real problem is all the trotters who will be competing for the hambo will be racing half way across the country. 98% of hambo hopefuls are raised and raced on the east coast. most stables who compete in hambo dont stable anywhere near indy. how soon does melander,ake,toscano,pelling etc bitch about this.
Top horses travel across the country for big races all the time. That's not an issue.
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OMG.... how do you think they raced at DuQuoin for 25 years ngc3
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Everyone already goes out to Hoosier already. A number of them are there tonight. If you race for good money people will travel. Some people might remember the Grand Circuit western swing. DuQuoin, Indiana State Fair, Springfield. Fun times, On July 4,1970 I watched Most Happy Fella win in 1:58.2, Stanley Dancer. Goshen NY. We would stay most places for at least a week. Travel provided by some of the following, Woodbury, George Hutt, Brook Ledge and Meadowbrook (rip Ralph) If you had a good horse you traveled track to track.
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Did Hoosier get the hambo?
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Did Hoosier get the hambo?
ngc3
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Ask Mike Campbell. ngc3
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luc if i make the trip,you better have a vip table,booth,section for me
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this decision is not a democracy
JG would only commit for 2027 and The "Society" wanted more than a year-so they took it
fan sentiment, location, handle, etc does not change the outcome
its official tmbz1
get accustomed to it
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tmbz1
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almost all the horses will not be prepping in Indiana...so first time on track...at Big M, Hambo horses regularly prepped with a couple if not mutliple prep races...still have walner colts in the njss, assuming the dancer is still at big m. so people can crack jokes but Hoosier Park isnt where they are going to be training, Apex raced exclusively at the big m this year
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Hoosier could create their own prep races. Whether it's a good idea or not doesn't matter, it's a done deal!
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They can train on the moon BUT if they want to win The Hambletonian, they will go to Indiana. 11.wp
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Hoosier could create their own prep races. Whether it's a good idea or not doesn't matter, it's a done deal!
really? with what money...if horses are stabled in NJ and PA you think they are shipping them for a month or more to Indiana
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How about some $$ from the place they got the $$ to secure the Hambo. A distance to travel. Tough break.
Fuck Mark Ford, Fuck Jeff Gural, Fuck NJ. and Fuck you + your precious handle. 11.wp
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Racing at Hoosier Park...
just doesnt have that spark....
It's Hicksville
Meadowlands way way better
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the only positive of the switch is that Hollywood Heyden will once again rightfully be center stage doing interviews during the Hambo
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Racing at Hoosier Park...
just doesnt have that spark....
It's Hicksville
Meadowlands way way better
Some not all.. some of the east coasters on here make me want to puke
Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana.. us Midwesterners are all hicks, rednecks, hillbillies and white trash in your eyes
We are just flyover country. Meaningless..a spec on the map.
Quit acting so entitled. Its nauseating.
Yeah Meadowlands used to be better
Its not the 1990's anymore
Gural had his chance and blew it
Get over it!!
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Big Ranger didn't 'PREP' at THe M[1]. Hadn't raced on a mile but gee, he seemed to do pretty well.
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gee one outlier out of 10 and they couldnt even trust the folksy trainer
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They race a boring style because the stretch is so long. Two wide flow is slow to develop. They gap horribly. The track is made for pacers not trotters. Track has a major local bias. The announcers voice is annoying.
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handle,location are going to be issues,but the real problem is all the trotters who will be competing for the hambo will be racing half way across the country. 98% of hambo hopefuls are raised and raced on the east coast. most stables who compete in hambo dont stable anywhere near indy. how soon does melander,ake,toscano,pelling etc bitch about this.
Didn't people trek to Pompano Park {RIP} for breeders crown and the matron years ago?
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the only positive of the switch is that Hollywood Heyden will once again rightfully be center stage doing interviews during the Hambo
Thats a really good point. I don't have this hardon for Jeff Gural like many othere, but he kicked Holly to the curb.
He deserved better.
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Gural employs nothing but "yes men" starting with his lapdog CEO, Jason Chapstick Settlemoir.
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Gural employs nothing but "yes men" starting with his lapdog CEO, Jason Chapstick Settlemoir.
Settlemoir has kissed Roger Huston's ass for years at the LBJ
I've seen it firsthand and not just over the pa system
That's how he got the announcer gig there. It was Sam McKee RIP
Then it was Steve Cross..who isn't awful but he didn't pucker up enough I suppose
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Bitch all they want. Signed and sealed for 3 years. Dry those tears. It will forgotten just like Freehold. 11.wp
Very symbolic how harness racing is being "forgotten" by more and more people.
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OMG.... how do you think they raced at DuQuoin for 25 years ngc3
They raced heats back then as well. The horse of the year last year left Mohawk one time and that was an hour away.
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this decision is not a democracy
JG would only commit for 2027 and The "Society" wanted more than a year-so they took it
fan sentiment, location, handle, etc does not change the outcome
its official tmbz1
get accustomed to it
More reason than ever to end the government handouts so the industry does have to take the fans into account.
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Hoosierpark got hambo tmbz1
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Big Ranger didn't 'PREP' at THe M[1]. Hadn't raced on a mile but gee, he seemed to do pretty well.
Let's apply that logic to Beau Jangles...
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Hoosierpark got hambo tmbz1
A track with one third the average handle of the Meadowlands.
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Hoosierpark got hambo tmbz1
Here is the simplified list of USA harness tracks ranked by their average handle tier:
Elite Market Leader (Over $2.5 Million Per Card)The Meadowlands (New Jersey)
Major Regional Tracks ($500,000 – $1 Million+ Per Card)Yonkers Raceway (New York)Saratoga Harness (New York)MGM Northfield Park (Ohio)The Red Mile (Kentucky)
Mid-Market Tracks ($200,000 – $500,000 Per Card)The Meadows (Pennsylvania)Pocono Downs at Mohegan Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania)Harrah’s Philadelphia (Pennsylvania)Miami Valley Gaming (Ohio)Hoosier Park (Indiana)
Smaller Regional Circuits (Under $200,000 Per Card)Batavia Downs (New York)Monticello Raceway (New York)
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Yonkers does not come close to handling $500k
that list needs an update
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Yonkers does not close to handling $500k
that list needs an update
During the winter and spring it is over $600k. When more tracks are racing it is over $450k and on stakes cards it is over $1,000,000.
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During the winter and spring it is over $600k. When more tracks are racing it is over $450k and on stakes cards it is over $1,000,000.
you are making up numpers and live in fantasy land 73cv.2