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Title: Time for McClure to go
Post by: MCR on August 03, 2026, 04:05:08 PM
He cant make a decision ends up torturing beau parked to the half in 52.3 . I stuck up for Bob until now. Fire his non driving ass.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Bitter Truth on August 03, 2026, 04:08:47 PM
Bobble strikes again.He didn't know whether to shit or wind his watch. [One of my Dad's old sayings. lol]  ;D
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: MCR on August 03, 2026, 04:10:45 PM
Bobbie needs to be fired... NOW ... I love that saying BTW! Bobbie need his own watch re winded
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Bitter Truth on August 03, 2026, 04:19:42 PM
Fourth loss in a row. COMPLETELY stopped. Well on the way to breaking this horse's spirit.
Lung infection probably back. ;D
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: gurals casino on August 03, 2026, 04:24:42 PM
maybe the horse wasn't that great to begin with tmbz1
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: TimTimTimbo on August 03, 2026, 04:25:03 PM
Jesus Christ that was the worst I have ever seen. IMO Beau Jangles is done. He has been cooked, had his heart ripped out. Don't know if he bled or what as well but 52 and change, McClure should be banned from driving.

I don't think Beau improved as much as they would have liked from 2yo and there is no way he makes his next planned start
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: gogasgoboom on August 03, 2026, 04:31:37 PM
Doc is having a tough day.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: TimTimTimbo on August 03, 2026, 04:33:34 PM
Doc is having a tough day.

Shalom Hanover set a track record at Pocono beating AMAC and Atomix Hanover who ran a good second. Atomix is going to make plenty of $$$ if they look after him but Shalom Hanover won pretty easy and is now 3-3
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: SDST2009 on August 03, 2026, 04:51:11 PM
He cant make a decision ends up torturing beau parked to the half in 52.3 . I stuck up for Bob until now. Fire his non driving ass.

Same boat. He was handed a rail trip. Terrible, terrible drive, and I was also willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until now.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: goblue on August 03, 2026, 05:02:18 PM
Don't be surprised if that's the last start of Beau Jangles career
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: SDST2009 on August 03, 2026, 05:10:49 PM
Don't be surprised if that's the last start of Beau Jangles career

 tmbz1

At this point he's affecting ongoing value.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Anakin on August 03, 2026, 05:13:13 PM
I agree it was a terrible drive, but the horse was parked to a 52 3/5 half and then stopped. Any horse would stop off that trip. If he is ok physically, would think they will regroup and race in a few weeks at Mohawk. Probably with a new driver and just look to race off a helmet.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: wizardofoz on August 03, 2026, 05:15:09 PM
Replay:race 10 today:  https://grandriverraceway.com/livestreams-replays/
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: whiptherabbit on August 03, 2026, 05:37:10 PM
He’s not the first great two year old colt to regress at 3. With that being said, atrocious trip by McClure, I’ll assume he’s not driving him again. Jody’s colt was massive in here as well.

This type of race really shows how incredible SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E was with the awful trip he got in the Meadowlands Pace & still paced hard right to the wire, just getting beat.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: captaintreacherous on August 03, 2026, 05:42:50 PM
JJ outdrove them all...


Not much Beau Jangles could do...

take back and move to the front....

fast pace...but when u go for big $$$

the favs dont always win...

not really the drivers fault.

front end sometimes gets scorched


Beau Jangles raced very hard at 2

still race well at 3  and has now tailed off

They are flesh and blood....not machines

still took home some nice paychecks

and racked up some good wins.

May be tough to regroup off the last 2 losses

vs. weaker Sires Stakes competition.

Probably best to get him ready for breeding but I

donot own the horse.


Which farm will he be standing at?

Tara Hills probably...where Cattlewash is.

and what is the upside....maybe take a stab at the JUG?

2 heats....my guess is Doc passes on that.

45 days away in the US and a few years ago

I was there and it was like 100 degrees in the shade

brutal.

You better have a tuf MF to go 2 heats in the JUG

on a super hot day..

Lots of the Great ones didnot wish to contest...
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on August 03, 2026, 06:03:15 PM
"Not really the driver's fault"?  Can't believe you're giving him a pass for his butcher drive. You either commit for the lead right away or sit 4th and come first over. He who hesitates gets hung to the half in 52 and change and is up the track.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: SDST2009 on August 03, 2026, 06:06:33 PM
He’s not the first great two year old colt to regress at 3. With that being said, atrocious trip by McClure, I’ll assume he’s not driving him again. Jody’s colt was massive in here as well.

This type of race really shows how incredible SOMEBEACHSOMEWHER E was with the awful trip he got in the Meadowlands Pace & still paced hard right to the wire, just getting beat.

Yes, the bigger story ought to be the horse that won. He earned that record for sure.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Pacer 2 on August 03, 2026, 06:20:44 PM
"Not really the driver's fault"?  Can't believe you're giving him a pass for his butcher drive. You either commit for the lead right away or sit 4th and come first over. He who hesitates gets hung to the half in 52 and change and is up the track.

   Maybe you could've done better?     ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on August 03, 2026, 06:21:43 PM
I knew you would say that because you're afraid to criticize anyone for a bad drive.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: ScrapeThPaint on August 03, 2026, 06:24:31 PM
   Maybe you could've done better?     ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

A professional driver shouldn't put himself in that position by being indecisive.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: wizardofoz on August 03, 2026, 08:19:50 PM
Have you ever seen a horse of the year come back the following year and fall from grace this fast?
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Brown jug on August 03, 2026, 08:47:37 PM
not sure what some drivers and trainers are thinking
the horse needed an easy trip for many reasons, 2 hole, second over
instead he gets gutted
there was no need for mcclure to even put the horse in the position he did
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Pacer 2 on August 03, 2026, 08:51:25 PM
A professional driver shouldn't put himself in that position by being indecisive.


    Maybe you could've done better too?       ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: seen2much on August 03, 2026, 09:09:06 PM
   Maybe you could've done better?     ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Idiot 2...didn't get a check with McClure  11.dt and wouldn't have got a check with me driving.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Brown jug on August 03, 2026, 09:20:00 PM
its not a question of could any of us have done better
we are not professional drivers
the fact is that a upper end professional driver does not get caught in that situation
period, end of story
especially under the current circumstances of the horses health and both mental and physical
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: seen2much on August 03, 2026, 09:40:59 PM
its not a question of could any of us have done better
we are not professional drivers
the fact is that a upper end professional driver does not get caught in that situation
period, end of story
especially under the current circumstances of the horses health and both mental and physical
That's well said  tmbz1
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Harness racer on August 04, 2026, 03:22:35 PM
Exactly!  Pacer poo is just a fucking idiot.   tmbz1
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: simplify on August 04, 2026, 03:31:11 PM
   Maybe you could've done better?     ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Hey genius this legit may be the worst logic ever. I thought Lucparc was the dumbest but you may take the cake dbag.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: captaintreacherous on August 04, 2026, 04:48:00 PM
Here is what are facts:


12 starts at 2         won every race


Metro ..extremely  tuf to actually win this race

Breeders Crown

OSS Gold


12 starts...that is insane....I had my doubts as to

how he would pull off a successful 3 year old season

after (12 ) 2 yr old starts.

McClure drove him perfect at 2..but I donot think Dexter

Dunn would have fared all that better..at 3

Beau was starting to get tired...and fresher fit horses

were in line in the NA Cup elims and Final...and

you could see the changing of the guard slowly but surely.

By the time Beau was back in OSS he was worn out

and yesterday the same.....

Yeah,,Tuf 1/2...but you arent always getting 1:01

halves.....heck 2 year olds beat 1:50 yesterday!!!!

Same thing would have happened with Dexter Dunn

driving IMO.

Disagree if u wish....but as they say...


it is what it is.


Who am I to 2nd guess Ian Moore but if I had him

there are 1 of 2 options...

3 weeks off paddock time...

start back and aim for the JUG....

Gotta be 100% to 101%

If he trains poorly or draws Bad..Scratch him

last try....Win or Lose.

Book the farm now and get the Stallion ads

into production..

Beau Jangles did what we saw...

Nothing else to prove.

He was great.....


Should do well in the Breeding Shed.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: Kenny on August 04, 2026, 05:43:25 PM
 Nihilator races 13 times at two including heats. He did okay at three.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: captaintreacherous on August 04, 2026, 07:15:36 PM
Bret Hanover raced (24) starts at 2 I believe.


The breed is everchanging....g oing faster takes more

out of these colts at 2...


their muscles and joints can actually wear out over time..

some fare better than others...

some are stronger but many fall by the wayside...


The sport and horses would do better if they didnot race at 2

but that willnot happen.

Actually very few really good 2 year olds...and when u get

to these top $$ Races.....they are flying....all out.

MLB pitchers used to go 8/9 innings..

now...5/6/7 innings max..


Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: rainman2 on August 05, 2026, 01:03:48 AM
Paul MacDonell drove somebeachsomwewhe re and Clint Galbraith drove Niatross. 

Rank McClure, MacDonnel, and Galbraith from best to worst.
Title: Re: Time for McClure to go
Post by: gurals casino on August 05, 2026, 08:34:49 AM
Have you ever seen a horse of the year come back the following year and fall from grace this fast?

maybe the expectations were way too high?

maybe the "irrational exuberance" placed on the horse made it virtually impossible to live up to?

maybe he wasn't that great to begin with?

maybe the industry and most of the fans were looking for a superstar and picked the wrong horse?

there have plenty of 2yos that had great seasons only to have great expectations at age 3 burdened on them

McClure turned in an awful drive, changing his mind at least 3x--that didn't help--but did anyone consider he was not going to win anyway despite the drive by McClure? Many of you are reacting like he was 3 wide on all three turns and lost by a nose.


this is why voters are reluctant to give HOY honors to a 2yo--often when they turn age 3-the rest of the class grows up and end up equaling or surpassing the 2yo champ( see Jate Lobell)

He is a Ontario Gold Series horse who had a great year at age 2 who was unfairly and ridiculously labeled the next Niatross.

I doubt he leaves Ontario if he ever races again.
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