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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: captaintreacherous on July 18, 2026, 08:44:26 AM
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Captain's Quarters was an exceptionally talented pacing horse and, in AI view, has a legitimate chance to become a useful commercial sire.
Racing record
Record: 1:49.1
Career earnings: $1,003,014
At 2: Won the Metro Pace Final (G1).
At 3: Won the Little Brown Jug elimination and North America Cup elimination, and was narrowly beaten in the North America Cup Final (G1).,,finishing 2nd....making the successful transition from the freshman to the 3 year old ranks.
He competed primarily in the major stakes, including the Metro, North America Cup, Meadowlands Pace, Little Brown Jug, Breeders Crown, Tattersalls and other top events. That is important because he was not simply beating lesser company—he was consistently being tested against the best colts of his crop.
The pedigree is a major attraction
He is by Captaintreacherou s, one of the most important modern pacing stallions, and out of Prescient Beauty, a 1:50.4, nearly $500,000-winning mare. His dam is also closely related to Sportswriter, a Metro Pace winner and major stakes winner.
And quite possibly, the hottest Family in Modern Harness Racing by far
The family includes a HOTY Tall Dark Stranger, Downbytheseaside, Sportswriter, and Swingtown...among
others.
So the pedigree combines:
Top-level race ability
A very fashionable sire line
A high-class producing family
A strong commercial profile for breeders
My assessment as a breeding prospect
To say Captain's Quarters is a very interesting prospect,
would be an understatement... ..
particularly for breeders looking for a Captaintreacherou s son with a serious stakes résumé. The biggest question, naturally, is not his racing ability—he has already demonstrated that—but whether he can transmit his qualities to his foals.
The positives are substantial and literally off the charts:
G1-winning ability, speed, durability, elite competition, and a strong maternal family...second to none.
He is standing his first season in 2026 at Winbak Farm of Canada, with a listed 2026 stud fee of C$5,000.
AI bottom line: I would consider him a genuine breeding prospect, not merely a stallion standing on pedigree alone. His performance gives breeders a real reason to take a chance on him. His early foal crops and, eventually, his first yearlings will determine whether he becomes a major sire or simply a good regional stallion.
Given your interest in him as an owner, I would be especially interested in evaluating his first mares bred and the quality of the mares he receives—that will tell us a lot about how serious his commercial opportunity is.
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Hey Jerky
Talks in 3rd person
Back with this AI sh!t
Calhoun, get help, ASAP
Or get help for the nutless monkey that inhabits your being
Too late! ;D
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"Sweet" or "Not so Sweet"
Maybe you should read ....maybe you will learn
something....
or post some constructive, humorous and/or thoughtful
information..
vs 4th grade dribble.
We at Horseplop...are all pulling for you.
xxx
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4th grade dribble. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3.
It's drivel. Fucking illiterate hillbilly.
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"Sweet" or "Not so Sweet"
Maybe you should read ....maybe you will learn
something....
or post some constructive, humorous and/or thoughtful
information..
vs 4th grade dribble.
We at Horseplop...are all pulling for you.
xxx
He posts with the mentality and maturity of a teenage social media junkie without real life meaningful relationships.
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He posts with the mentality and maturity of a teenage social media junkie without real life meaningful relationships.
You'd kill your entire family for my gf tmbz1
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You'd kill your entire family for my gf tmbz1
Your right hand?
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Your right hand?
You fantasize about me whacking one out of the park ngc3
Line up the hotties in your family, I'll do something charitable to them too tmbz1
ngc3
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You fantasize about me whacking one out of the park ngc3
Line up the hotties in your family, I'll do something charitable to them too tmbz1
ngc3
How many PFAs against you? How much do you pay your "GF"? No women with any respect for herself would have anything to do with someone like you.
You do not even like women, you have a man crush on Mike Campbell
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How many PFAs against you? How much do you pay your "GF"? No women with any respect for herself would have anything to do with someone like you.
You do not even like women, you have a man crush on Mike Campbell
Kenny,
Why are you always a miserable complaining prick?
Why are you so insecure?
Why do feel the need to see others lives as bad?
Are you having a tough time?
Handling life?
Just google "CRISIS HOTLINE" they'll take care of you ngc3
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Boys, let’s get back to the subject at hand.
I’ve been friendly with Herb Holland for over 35 years. He told me he got a few breedings to CQ.
I was just wondering what interest the original poster has in this.
Have a mare to breed to him?
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Boys, let’s get back to the subject at hand.
I’ve been friendly with Herb Holland for over 35 years. He told me he got a few breedings to CQ.
I was just wondering what interest the original poster has in this.
Have a mare to breed to him?
JJ was the wrong move as his pilot but that ship has sailed. Very nice horse.
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Yes, his Meadowlands Pace wasn’t the best drive.
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Without asking ai it is clear enough to see he has all the attributes to be a commercial Sire.
However... he had an awful time getting mares in foal this year...
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Yes—a first-year Standardbred stallion can have a somewhat rough breeding season, but it is not necessarily a sign that he will be a poor sire.
Common reasons include:
Limited book size: Breeders may be cautious until they see his first foals or race results.
Low fertility or management problems: A young stallion may have lower semen quality, poor libido, or need time to learn the breeding routine.
Freshness and inexperience: Some young stallions are difficult to handle or inconsistent early in the season.
Mares and timing: Conception rates can be affected by mare fertility, breeding timing, uterine health, and veterinary management—not just the stallion.
First-year marketing risk: Even a good young stallion may struggle to attract quality mares until his first crop proves itself.
That said, a genuinely poor conception rate, consistently low semen quality, or weak libido in the first season is a legitimate concern. The key is to distinguish a difficult first season because of inexperience or management from an actual fertility problem.
For a young stallion like Captain's Quarters, I would want to see his actual first-season conception rate, semen evaluation, number of mares bred, and whether his difficulties were with fertility or simply getting a large book of mares before judging his breeding potential.
From actual #'s we see of the 100 mares bred to Captains
Quarters he has approximately 60 in Foal.
Obviously , after the second season we will have a better
idea of where he stands.
Another example of first Year stallions is leading Ontario
Stallion Cattlewash...who had (38) foals his first season
with (20) racing as 2 year olds....which was exceptional.
Bulldog Hanover had (54) Foals in his initial crop.
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Bred our mare 4 times with no luck. Vet looked at seven and found minimal motility
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what was the mares name?
did she foal last season?
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Comparing cattlewash and bulldog to Captains quarters is ridiculous. They had small first crops because they were still racing and bred a small book of mares by design. CQ has fertility issues is what we're telling you. Cattlewash and bulldogs fertility has never been called into question
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I have many many year of breeding stallions….some great ones and some not so good. I’ve seen many studs come and go….some with lots of hype.
In my expert opinion I think Captians Quatrrs will be ok, a sire stake type that won’t get a ton of mares….i hope he does well. He was a nice horse with good connections….and what do I know. I’ve been wrong about new studs before.
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I was looking at a few others and thought Captain Albano
was the one I would go with but unfortunately
failed the fertility tests.
Still racing spectacular.
I also considered Legendary and/or Nijinsky..but i
am really concerned about New Jersey breds at this point.
Meadowlands goes down and where do we race?
Nijinsky, a bettors delight...but he was a super horse on the
track...but not a top 2 year old.
Others would be the flavour of the month types
Cattlewash and bulldog..who are getting the best mares.
and have produced the best 2 year olds so far..which figures.
Tall Dark Stranger still may come around.
tricky game...but from what i am hearing
there will be plenty of fast mares going to Captains Quarters
for his second season.
My friend bred one fast 2 year old 1:51 broodmare
and she is in foal to Captains Quarters.
that will be her first foal if all goes well.
Also matters what your goal is...
If I am selling in the sale..I may go with cattlewash or
bulldog..already proven.
If I am racing ..you almost have to gamble on Captains
Quarters...
first and/or second crop.
Looks like some serious upside.
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There isn’t a single published “first-year conception rate” specifically for first-time Standardbred stallions, but a reasonable benchmark is:
About 60% pregnancy on the first breeding cycle is a strong general benchmark under commercial conditions.
With repeated breeding over the season, roughly 70-75% of mares may become pregnant when the stallion, semen, mares, and management are all good.
Live-foal rates are lower, around 70–75% in a large commercial Standardbred dataset.
A first-year stallion can perform below those numbers simply because he is inexperienced, semen collection and handling are still being optimized, or he is bred to a large number of mares. The quality of the mares and the breeding system often matter as much as the stallion himself. A recent study of nearly 4,000 Standardbred mares found a 61.4% first-cycle pregnancy rate, 84.7% end-of-season pregnancy rate, and 73.1% live-foal rate.
So, if you're evaluating a new Standardbred stallion, I would not judge him too harshly from a first season unless the conception rate is consistently poor after accounting for mare quality, semen type, timing, and veterinary management.
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good topic and discussion ( well most of the posts!!)
as we know and have seen trying to predict successful sires is a gamble at best
the first test is the fertility ability
the challenge for captains quarters is he stands at winbak who has many mares but far fewer quality ones and other stallions as well
also he would not fit with captain/sbsw mares
has as good a shot as anyone , great pedigree and good racing resume so who knows
decent value if he stands at $5k cdn
time will tell