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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: captaintreacherous on July 07, 2026, 08:24:47 PM
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How long will the owners be running this operation?
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How long will the owners be running this operation?
4 EVER! tmbz1 Welcome to Kentucky! tmbz1 Remember they want racing, unlike other states! tmbz1
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Casino's are Thriving and Harness Racing is Dying
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How long will the owners be running this operation?
I looked it up...this is the definition of "thriving" so I'm guessing forever, Just like TVG. There is no chance that a younger voting constituency looks at horse racing with anything but favor. No chance.
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actually they are both thriving
this is a win/win
a true partnership
see folks some states/governors get the model such as kentucky
the issue with casinos is they drain money from citizens( nobody wins at them) who then cannot spend money in other areas that actually have an economic multiplier effect on their economy
and how much downstream benefit or jobs does a casino create, very few, how many people needed to operate a slot machine
so the folks in Kentucky create a partnership between the tracks and the casino
in return for allowing the casinos to set up the state mandate a % of their take gets funneled into racing
why??
because racing supports and creates jobs ( farmers, grooms, vets, equipment manufacturers, truckers etc and those people spend money in the economy building a strong tax base
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actually they are both thriving
this is a win/win
a true partnership
see folks some states/governors get the model such as kentucky
the issue with casinos is they drain money from citizens( nobody wins at them) who then cannot spend money in other areas that actually have an economic multiplier effect on their economy
and how much downstream benefit or jobs does a casino create, very few, how many people needed to operate a slot machine
so the folks in Kentucky create a partnership between the tracks and the casino
in return for allowing the casinos to set up the state mandate a % of their take gets funneled into racing
why??
where is oak Grove located?
easily accessible?
near a major city/hub?
because racing supports and creates jobs ( farmers, grooms, vets, equipment manufacturers, truckers etc and those people spend money in the economy building a strong tax base
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actually they are both thriving
this is a win/win
a true partnership
see folks some states/governors get the model such as kentucky
the issue with casinos is they drain money from citizens( nobody wins at them) who then cannot spend money in other areas that actually have an economic multiplier effect on their economy
and how much downstream benefit or jobs does a casino create, very few, how many people needed to operate a slot machine
so the folks in Kentucky create a partnership between the tracks and the casino
in return for allowing the casinos to set up the state mandate a % of their take gets funneled into racing
why??
because racing supports and creates jobs ( farmers, grooms, vets, equipment manufacturers, truckers etc and those people spend money in the economy building a strong tax base
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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Everyone is happy there.
The Casinos are doing huge business and making big profits
The land owners are thrilled with people buying up huge amounts of land
Construction companies can't keep up with the amount of new construction being built
Barn help are making wages far better than in other states
Drivers are even buying new homes
IT A WIN WIN FOR EVERTONE AND ITS GOING TO GET EVEN BETTER
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actually they are both thriving
this is a win/win
a true partnership
see folks some states/governors get the model such as kentucky
the issue with casinos is they drain money from citizens( nobody wins at them) who then cannot spend money in other areas that actually have an economic multiplier effect on their economy
and how much downstream benefit or jobs does a casino create, very few, how many people needed to operate a slot machine
so the folks in Kentucky create a partnership between the tracks and the casino
in return for allowing the casinos to set up the state mandate a % of their take gets funneled into racing
why??
because racing supports and creates jobs ( farmers, grooms, vets, equipment manufacturers, truckers etc and those people spend money in the economy building a strong tax base
In connection with racing, "thriving" means government HANDOUTS. If that same money was used for roads, bridges, and school instead of HANDOUTS to racing, it would create even more jobs. When an industry is supported by GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS not customers, it can disappear overnight.
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Everyone is happy there.
The Casinos are doing huge business and making big profits
The land owners are thrilled with people buying up huge amounts of land
Construction companies can't keep up with the amount of new construction being built
Barn help are making wages far better than in other states
Drivers are even buying new homes
IT A WIN WIN FOR EVERTONE AND ITS GOING TO GET EVEN BETTER
As long as the HANDOUTS continue...
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New York: ~$230 million (from traditional commercial casino slot machines/VLTs)
Pennsylvania: ~$200 million to $240 million (from commercial casino slot machines)
Kentucky: ~$150 million to $180 million+ (from Historical Horse Racing electronic gaming terminals)
Ohio: ~$115 million to $130 million (from racino slot machines/VLTs)
Indiana: ~$50 million to $60 million (from traditional casino slot machines and table games)
New Jersey: $20 million (direct state budget taxpayer appropriation)
Maryland: ~$15 million to $20 million (from commercial casino slots and table games)
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Our country has MANY MANY HANDOUTS to many people.
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Our country has MANY MANY HANDOUTS to many people.
In PA the racing handouts are the biggest thing in the budget. Do you think the voters care if racing even exists? The racing industry has its head buried in the sand.
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Steak race purses are supported by breeder and owner payments. Plus, some A1 sauce helps kick it up another notch.
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I am all for $40,000 purses for all Harness races...
Just wonder how a business model longterm can afford to pay
$40k on a $16k Handle?
Hope it continues....soun ds great!!!
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The Jeffrey the crybaby
Can’t compete with oak grove and Kentucky
It’s over for the east coast
Ohio
Ky
And Indy
By bye
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keep complaining
i will keep cashing cheques
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Ontario Racing (OR) announced on Thursday, July 9 that it is immediately contributing additional funding of more than $14 million to the Ontario Standardbred horse racing industry
The horse racing industry in Ontario annually injects more than $1.9 billion to the Ontario economy and provides approximately $330 million in provincial taxes. Horse racing drives economic activity in dozens of communities across the province, particularly in rural areas where economic opportunities may be limited.
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All 3 Pennsylvania tracks raced for a lot more money years ago and it’s gotten a lot worse. Especially at pocono. Look at the trainers from 15 years ago and today! You have to go real fast for less money too.
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Ontario Racing (OR) announced on Thursday, July 9 that it is immediately contributing additional funding of more than $14 million to the Ontario Standardbred horse racing industry
The horse racing industry in Ontario annually injects more than $1.9 billion to the Ontario economy and provides approximately $330 million in provincial taxes. Horse racing drives economic activity in dozens of communities across the province, particularly in rural areas where economic opportunities may be limited.
Did they define the industry?
Purse accounts
Restoration and beautification
Marketing
Other
New York i believe has a set formula for money coming and going.
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yes they did
surprisingly a large amount going to overnight purses and specifically for Ontario sired horses
lets face it , the idiots at WEG have never been the brightest folks, but even they know they are losing racing opportunities to the USA specifically Kentucky and many horses from Ontario are being sold into the USA to take advantage of the 40% currency exchange
these increases had to be done for Ontario to succeed and survive , not just at mohawk but for the B tracks as well, too late for rideau carlton
Ontario racing needs to take bac control and not leave their destiny in the hands of casinos who will destroy it
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yes they did
surprisingly a large amount going to overnight purses and specifically for Ontario sired horses
lets face it , the idiots at WEG have never been the brightest folks, but even they know they are losing racing opportunities to the USA specifically Kentucky and many horses from Ontario are being sold into the USA to take advantage of the 40% currency exchange
these increases had to be done for Ontario to succeed and survive , not just at mohawk but for the B tracks as well, too late for rideau carlton
Ontario racing needs to take bac control and not leave their destiny in the hands of casinos who will destroy it
Eventually the taxpayers are going to revolt.
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How long will the owners be running this operation?
once again, there seems to be some confusion about the correlation between handle and purses
there is none
purses are subsidized by casino/slots, or in New Jersey's case--taxpayer handout
in Kentucky--purses are funded by HHR(historical horse racing) -a type of slots showing replays of races from years past--Kentucky has allotted a large amount of money to purses-that is why you see huge purses at Churchill/Keeneland/Ellis/Turfway/Kentucky Downs
......--and in harness-Red Mile/Thunder Ridge/Oak Grove-although a big chunk is for KySS and not so much for overnite racing
in the future--can we please stop with the nonsense about handle and purses please? they are independent of each other
thank you
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Kenny, please come up with some new material
your response is always the same without any fact checking
clearly you have an axe to grind with the industry, perhaps share why
as for me, i will just buy a couple more mares to take advantage of this new windfall
Canadians are muppets, they are not going to complain about anything
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Eventually the taxpayers are going to revolt.
Hold your breath ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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It hasn't happened yet, but in PA in previous years some politicians wanted to eliminate the funding for racetracks and divert the money to in their eyes more important things, but so far have been unsuccessful but will keep trying.