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Title: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: BrokenHeadPole on June 22, 2026, 07:51:43 AM
Kentucky will be the "new Meadowlands" in a few years. The harness industry is booming in that state. The big owners and breeders are building new farms. Drivers are even buying homes there. You have very sharp people owning/running the Red Mile. Sire Stakes is an amazing program. Purses are huge.  Other harness tracks in the state have conditions for all types of horses. Barn helps make more there than in other states.  It's the place to race now and in the future.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Pacer 2 on June 22, 2026, 10:12:55 AM
Kentucky will be the "new Meadowlands" in a few years. The harness industry is booming in that state. The big owners and breeders are building new farms. Drivers are even buying homes there. You have very sharp people owning/running the Red Mile. Sire Stakes is an amazing program. Purses are huge.  Other harness tracks in the state have conditions for all types of horses. Barn helps make more there than in other states.  It's the place to race now and in the future.

     ABSOLUTELY THRIVING.    tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Kirby's Ace on June 22, 2026, 10:28:18 AM
I heard that's why Josh Green moved there and Eric Good invested millions on that farm. The breeding program and $$ opportunities for Ky Bred's are going to be like no other. Just look at Luther and his set up!
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: AgentQ on June 22, 2026, 10:33:08 AM
It's the place to be right now, never mind the future. Unfortunately there will. be me and about fifty other people taking in the action today so hopefully they will use some of the money and put it in the hands of capable marketing firms.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: BrokenHeadPole on June 22, 2026, 10:58:36 AM
I predict they will have feature races in the future with purses FAR GREATER than the Meadowlands.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on June 22, 2026, 11:21:52 AM
You're probably right, but nowhere near what Meadowlands handles even though it's been declining.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Third Over on June 22, 2026, 11:54:52 AM
I heard that's why Josh Green moved there and Eric Good invested millions on that farm. The breeding program and $$ opportunities for Ky Bred's are going to be like no other. Just look at Luther and his set up!
Josh Green is no longer employed at Eric Good's Spring Station farm in Kentucky.. moving in another direction.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Calhoun on June 22, 2026, 12:33:54 PM
Kentucky  tmbz1
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Kirby's Ace on June 22, 2026, 12:40:56 PM
Josh Green is no longer employed at Eric Good's Spring Station farm in Kentucky.. moving in another direction.

Really..Wow..I know his gal was posting pictures from there on the 11th.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: HeadintheSand on June 22, 2026, 02:04:51 PM
Kentucky will go as far at their State Commission allows.  We need a commission that stands lock step with the animal.  There needs to be consequences for nefarious activity.  I would love to see Kentucky take the lead for Harness Racing.  For me, the state Commision for Ohio, New York and New Jersey have been a travesty! We can talk about the money for the stake races in Ohio….blah , blah, blah, but a ton of questionable activity by so called horsemen and horsewomen!!!! I also put some of the accountability on the owners. They know dam well what is going on.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Kirby's Ace on June 22, 2026, 02:09:33 PM
All the cheats will wind up their. Mark my words. They follow the money and right now the money is heading to KY!
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: rainman2 on June 22, 2026, 02:37:43 PM
Kentucky will be the "new Meadowlands" in a few years. The harness industry is booming in that state. The big owners and breeders are building new farms. Drivers are even buying homes there. You have very sharp people owning/running the Red Mile. Sire Stakes is an amazing program. Purses are huge.  Other harness tracks in the state have conditions for all types of horses. Barn helps make more there than in other states.  It's the place to race now and in the future.

Bring some good stock and bring a good driver now while the conditions are this way.

There is no guarantee on the future of harness racing.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Pacer 2 on June 22, 2026, 03:53:45 PM


There is no guarantee on the future of harness racing.

     There's no guarantee on anything except death and taxes MR OBVIOUS!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: rainman2 on June 22, 2026, 03:55:55 PM
     There's no guarantee on anything except death and taxes MR OBVIOUS!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

You forgot to post the front part of the quote for everyone to read here.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: talkstohisself on June 22, 2026, 04:44:15 PM
As long as Beshear is gov it will thrive  he is a huge supporter  of the racing industry 
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: rainman2 on June 22, 2026, 04:57:11 PM
As long as Beshear is gov it will thrive  he is a huge supporter  of the racing industry

His term is only until December 2027.  Then what?
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: LUCPARK on June 22, 2026, 05:02:19 PM
Sure it’s thriving no RESTRICTIONS like at the Hebrew owned track out east

No stupid fees like the  Hebrew track out east

Better purses better horses

Everyone is moving away from the east coast racing

Fact
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: rainman2 on June 22, 2026, 05:22:02 PM
Sure it’s thriving no RESTRICTIONS like at the Hebrew owned track out east

No stupid fees like the  Hebrew track out east

Better purses better horses

Everyone is moving away from the east coast racing

Fact

Outside the stakes races they have, not much of a driving colony for overnights (even though they race afternoons) LOL!
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: LUCPARK on June 22, 2026, 05:25:35 PM
Outside the stakes races they have, not much of a driving colony for overnights (even though they race afternoons) LOL!

John

Stfu
Your getting dumber as the wheather gets warmer  tmbz1
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: rainman2 on June 22, 2026, 05:27:54 PM
John

Stfu
Your getting dumber as the wheather gets warmer  tmbz1

Not at all Luc!

Terrible driving colony for the $$$ they race for!
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Brown jug on June 22, 2026, 05:35:40 PM
yes , its no secret its the place to be
some smart folks scooped up big dollars 4 or 5 years ago when fields were small and competition weak
it will take time for kentucky to grow their overnight racing
oak grove and corbin are not exactly big cities that are easy to get to
however over the next 3 years you will see some trainers relocate and some drivers will follow
farms and training centers are increasing as well
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: rainman2 on June 22, 2026, 08:04:57 PM
yes , its no secret its the place to be
some smart folks scooped up big dollars 4 or 5 years ago when fields were small and competition weak
it will take time for kentucky to grow their overnight racing
oak grove and corbin are not exactly big cities that are easy to get to
however over the next 3 years you will see some trainers relocate and some drivers will follow
farms and training centers are increasing as well

The same thing happened in Massachusetts and Plainridge over the last few years-especially the stakes program.

Both programs also run their programs after other states are finished with theirs!
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: G on June 22, 2026, 08:10:18 PM
Yonkers and Kentucky will be the place to race
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Racetime on June 23, 2026, 11:37:16 AM
No shit, why do you think everyone's moving to Kentucky and buying farms ?
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Kenny on June 23, 2026, 12:14:32 PM
Sure it’s thriving no RESTRICTIONS like at the Hebrew owned track out east

No stupid fees like the  Hebrew track out east

Better purses better horses

Everyone is moving away from the east coast racing

Fact

Yes, having the horses at two tracks is very good to build fan interest in the future. Horseman are so stupid.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Kenny on June 23, 2026, 12:17:31 PM
Have mares in KY and stallions in a state like PA and forget about the grand circuit.
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: BrokenHeadPole on June 23, 2026, 03:32:46 PM
Some HEBREWS own are co-owners of the Red Mile. 
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: Larrylou32 on July 27, 2026, 12:39:42 PM
Kentucky  tmbz1

Did Green burn a bridge?
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: captaintreacherous on July 27, 2026, 02:18:41 PM
From what I see beyond a few KY Sire Stakes Races

and maybe The Tattersalls and some Big Trot Races

the racing is below average...

Very small pools...Monticell o gets way more..

No serious wagering at The Red Mile for decades.

They get some attendance during sale week other than that

not much..

The other Kentucky tracks are offering high purses

higher than the Wagering pools for most of the races..

how long will the powers that be keep taking the losses.?


A bunch of hillbillies beyong the top 10 drivers.

Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: gurals casino on July 27, 2026, 02:33:28 PM
From what I see beyond a few KY Sire Stakes Races

and maybe The Tattersalls and some Big Trot Races

the racing is below average...

Very small pools...Monticell o gets way more..

No serious wagering at The Red Mile for decades.

They get some attendance during sale week other than that

not much..

The other Kentucky tracks are offering high purses

higher than the Wagering pools for most of the races..

how long will the powers that be keep taking the losses.?


A bunch of hillbillies beyong the top 10 drivers.

what losses?

Kentucky has huge purses due to HHR(historical horse racing)machines--similar to a slot machine

they have legislated a large amount of money to ALL of the tracks for purses--Churchill/Keeneland/Ellis/Turfway/Ky Downs/Thunder Ridge/Oak Grove-and Lexington

Red Mile overnights are not a part of the windfall

can we please stop staring at the handles and correlate them with profits?

handle means nothing-but so many people erroneously think they do
Title: Re: KENTUCKY IS THE PLACE TO BE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Post by: captaintreacherous on July 27, 2026, 02:58:02 PM
The Christian Midwest Track owners "bettor" call the

Pope quickly as from what most see ....

or maybe they need a Rabbi....or (2)


there is NO Midwest Racing action left....0


Kentucky T bred Racing is where the action is...

mostly online..as if you see the Churchill Grandstand

there are no people...sort of like Monticello.


Bet $200 on a horse to win at Red Mile...and u will

have a 1-5 or 1-9 shot..


Some Stakes races but beyond that all hillbillies


Top 10 drivers for the Sire Stakes and Sales weeks...

other than that...Kentucky racing might as well be in

Vermont or Maine.

The East Coast will always have the Top Harness races.


Metro Pace, NA Cup, Meadowlands Pace, Cane, Yonkers Trot.

Breeders Crown, NY, OSS Sires Pa Sires

Heck Monti just had a $108K NY  2 year old colt pace sires Today.


No matter how much they put into Kentucky Harness

people have very little interest except the few owners

that will race there for a month or so in the Fall during the

Sales.

Historical Race Slots are not paying for the racing

in the years to come.

Its all smoke and mirrors and if you really believe

Harness Racing will survive big time in Kentucky

beyond the Sire Stakes and Fall Classics you are

dreaming.

The "big" purses will last just long enough to attract

some players to race and support the racing..then they

will tail it off.

Thats the Plan.
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