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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: yonkersfan 1 on June 13, 2026, 01:29:12 PM
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ngc3
In half the races the handle was less than 5k.
How do they stay open?
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ngc3
In half the races the handle was less than 5k.
How do they stay open?
The track supports the casino and vice versa . And Jeff Gural may help out if its needed.
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The track supports the casino and vice versa . And Jeff Gural may help out if its needed.
Even you can't be that stupid. tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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I don't believe there's any tracks that actually cover the cost of racing ? Look at Shenandoah which only handle $50,000 - $60,000 a day. The cost to race is probably $15,000 for International Sound, United Tote, Roberts, Judges, Starter and Driver, Track Crew and Paddock Crew. % for online wagering is very low compared to 10 or more % for ontrack. Harness Racing needs to be very thankful for the welfare money from the Casinos.
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I don't believe there's any tracks that actually cover the cost of racing ? Look at Shenandoah which only handle $50,000 - $60,000 a day. The cost to race is probably $15,000 for International Sound, United Tote, Roberts, Judges, Starter and Driver, Track Crew and Paddock Crew. % for online wagering is very low compared to 10 or more % for ontrack. Harness Racing needs to be very thankful for the welfare money from the Casinos.
Do you think that there would be casinos at the tracks if it wasn't for the tracks lobbying for it?
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Do you think that there would be casinos at the tracks if it wasn't for the tracks lobbying for it?
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The reason the tracks lobby for it is because there would not be any harness pari mutuel tracks left, unless the states gave them welfare money. The only reason harness racing still exists, is because of casinos. Hopefully soon, decoupling will take place, and the blight named harness racing will be gone for good.
Sincerely, Silent One
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How long do you give money to a business that continues to lose money ?
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The reason the tracks lobby for it is because there would not be any harness pari mutuel tracks left, unless the states gave them welfare money. The only reason harness racing still exists, is because of casinos. Hopefully soon, decoupling will take place, and the blight named harness racing will be gone for good.
Sincerely, Silent One
You're such an ASSHOLE !! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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How long do you give money to a business that continues to lose money ?
Forever if its a big industry employing lots of people! DUUUUHH
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https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-u-s-companies-receive-the-most-government-subsidies/
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The track supports the casino and vice versa . And Jeff Gural may help out if its needed.
agreed. it's a great time to be involved in horse racing if you know what you're doing
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I play every Tioga card if I am home. Formful race with no fixing or drugs. Get free4 programs on their website. I wish the handles were higher so I can increase the size of my bets.
And today... Bulldog races.
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I play every Tioga card if I am home. Formful race with no fixing or drugs. Get free4 programs on their website. I wish the handles were higher so I can increase the size of my bets.
And today... Bulldog races.
Funny! ngc3
Not! ;D
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Forever if its a big industry employing lots of people! DUUUUHH
Apparently the industry isn't big or supporting lots of people in New Jersey.
Governor sherill wants to cut the welfare subsidy from 20 million to 5 million in 2027
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How long do you give money to a business that continues to lose money ?
The people give their money in taxes to their respective governments every day!!
This happens every day in different parts of the world!!
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Hopefully soon, decoupling will take place, and the blight named harness racing will be gone for good.
Sincerely, Silent One
Hopefully you'll be gone decades before that!
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Look at the money that Yonkers gives out in a week and look at their handle?
It's the cost of doing business for the casinos to have a casino at the track. Without the track. No Casino
Haven't seen many casinos go out of business. They get bigger and bigger
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Look at the money that Yonkers gives out in a week and look at their handle?
It's the cost of doing business for the casinos to have a casino at the track. Without the track. No Casino
Haven't seen many casinos go out of business. They get bigger and bigger
And the tracks provide huge revenue to the casinos. Besides customers, I've seen horsemen pile into casinos in droves to eat, drink, and gamble! Many are pretty big gamblers. tmbz1
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Man, these threads are some of the best. I can't tell if people really think in 2026 casinos need racing, or if they are just trolling. That is the definition of great trolling, so I really hope that is the case. Otherwise, we need more abortion!
A country that allows its citizens to smoke marijuana, bet on political races and go into any bathroom, doesn't need permission from Cletus.
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And the tracks provide huge revenue to the casinos. Besides customers, I've seen horsemen pile into casinos in droves to eat, drink, and gamble! Many are pretty big gamblers. tmbz1
That may happen at a handful of tracks, but alot of the tracks today no longer have a stable area so everyone ships in and ships out. If you've ever been to Harrah's Philly it's in a bad area, almost nobody is in the simulcast area, the refreshment stand is closed most days, the casino is 3/4 empty. Owners rarely come to the track, and the drivers can't get out of there fast enough when the races are over. If any of the tracks in PA were to close in the future, they wouldn't definitely be the first.
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Do you think that there would be casinos at the tracks if it wasn't for the tracks lobbying for it?
Like Pompano?
Like Calder?
Like Hialeah?
Like Hastings?
Like Fraser?
Like Rid Car?
Like Aquaduck?
Like every dog track in Florida, NH, MA?
All got casinos or card rooms because the tracks (and the horse and dog people) wanted it, like you said.
But there are bright spots.
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Look at the money that Yonkers gives out in a week and look at their handle?
It's the cost of doing business for the casinos to have a casino at the track. Without the track. No Casino
Haven't seen many casinos go out of business. They get bigger and bigger
Monticello has more handle than Yonkers and their casino is down the street!
For shits and giggles, which track will be the first one to close racing down permanently?