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Title: North America Cup
Post by: whiptherabbit on June 02, 2026, 12:50:56 PM
https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/6-2-26/pepsi-north-america-cup-attracts-16-entrants.html

Only 16 entries , eliminations will be drawn this afternoon.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Sweet on June 02, 2026, 01:36:28 PM
 ngc3

Al Papi (Ron Burke)
Azrael Blue Chip (Besim Odza)
​Beau Jangles (Dr. Ian Moore)
​Brandon Blvd (Andrew Harris)
Gentlemans Club (Aaron Lambert)
Lindy Dragonwater (Ron Burke)
Melillo (Ron Burke)
​No Waitlist (Blake MacIntosh)
​Odds On Mr Mamba (Melanie Wrenn)
​Redland Rocket Man (John Pentland)
​Superchamp Hanover (Travis Alexander)
​Sweet Lovin Lou (Daniel Lagace)
​Talbot Andretti (Jake Leamon)
​Ubrute (Ron Burke)
​Wholetthedogsout (John Pentland)
​Windor (Michiel Vanderkemp)

This my BJ and his initial 7 rivals, made it extremely tough for him like he's used too  ngc3
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: JT on June 02, 2026, 01:43:46 PM
It'll be interesting who draws into each division
What do you wanna bet OOMM and Brandon are not in the same division as Bj?
Also BJ' s pp 3,4,5, or 6? No way he gets 1 or 8 hole.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: darnoldrocks on June 02, 2026, 02:34:11 PM
It'll be interesting who draws into each division
What do you wanna bet OOMM and Brandon are not in the same division as Bj?
Also BJ' s pp 3,4,5, or 6? No way he gets 1 or 8 hole.

It will be interesting, but I'm going to say BJ draws at least one of OOMM or Brandon and BJ will not get post positions 4, 5 or 6 !!
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Sweet on June 02, 2026, 02:34:58 PM
It'll be interesting who draws into each division
What do you wanna bet OOMM and Brandon are not in the same division as Bj?
Also BJ' s pp 3,4,5, or 6? No way he gets 1 or 8 hole.

BJ raced nine times from the 1 hole and 8 hole.

It's an elim, you want to set a world record in an elim, Burke don't made a point and said that, no one does.  Why go after the king, BJ, lose and have nothing for the final.

I do think BJ will look to win easy, draw will be interesting, but nonetheless peak at the final. 

Finally a competition upgrade.

Fragment is in Buffalo though  ngc3

OOMM makes it the final and will come off the pace like a bat out of hell, BJ holds him off, holds them all off.  Maybe get 5,6-1 on that exacta.  BB tries to win, anyone and fails they're out of the money.

The king, BJ, let the dust settle and flash to the top, never look back...4/5?!  ;D
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Lance on June 02, 2026, 04:04:23 PM
1   GENTLEMANS CLUB                 MCCARTHY,ANDREW J   LAMBERT,AARON J      
2   REDLAND ROCKET MAN                 ROY,LOUIS-PHILIPPE   PENTLAND,JOHN R      
3   MELILLO                 WRENN,RONNIE H   BURKE,RONALD J      
4   ODDS ON MR MAMBA                 DUNN,DEXTER J   WRENN,MELANIE      
5   UBRUTE                 GINGRAS,YANNICK   BURKE,RONALD J      
6   TALBOT ANDRETTI                 DUNN,DEXTER J   LEAMON,JAKE      
7   BEAU JANGLES                 MCCLURE,BOB   MOORE,IAN      
8   BRANDON BLVD                 DUNN,DEXTER J   HARRIS,ANDREW S

Thats a good elim.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on June 02, 2026, 04:07:15 PM
Hard to believe all 3 ended up in the same elimination.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Lance on June 02, 2026, 04:24:14 PM
Interesting to see who Dex will drive.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: getreal on June 02, 2026, 04:39:55 PM
I think Dexter Dunn Drives OOMM and Bartlett gets the call on BB
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: JT on June 02, 2026, 04:44:14 PM
It'll be interesting who draws into each division
What do you wanna bet OOMM and Brandon are not in the same division as Bj?
Also BJ' s pp 3,4,5, or 6? No way he gets 1 or 8 hole.
Man I was way wrong..   ngc3 that's a helluva elimination!!
Here is the question..
The only goal for the elimination is to qualify for the final. Top 5 advance
Will BJ go all out to keep the undefeated streak alive?
Or will he have to?
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Lance on June 02, 2026, 04:52:19 PM
Man I was way wrong..   ngc3 that's a helluva elimination!!
Here is the question..
The only goal for the elimination is to qualify for the final. Top 5 advance
Will BJ go all out to keep the undefeated streak alive?
Or will he have to?
I think BJ will make his way to the front pretty easily.  Nobody is going to risk hooking up in an elim.  They’ll take a shot the last 1/4 or 1/8 but he’ll get his way.  The final will be a different story.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: darnoldrocks on June 02, 2026, 04:55:46 PM
Man I was way wrong..   ngc3 that's a helluva elimination!!
Here is the question..
The only goal for the elimination is to qualify for the final. Top 5 advance
Will BJ go all out to keep the undefeated streak alive?
Or will he have to?

Do the winners of the elims get to pick their post position for the final?
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Pacefast11 on June 02, 2026, 05:01:39 PM
Yes
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Bitter Truth on June 02, 2026, 05:11:42 PM
It was said that they wouldn't put BJ and OOMM in same elim. Hmm seems they might and throw in Brandon as a bonus.
Chance for my NO WAITLIST  to possibly do some damage [certainly would expect to make final] in the other Elim.
I still stress that my big hope for him is at Delaware. Post means a lot in final. Brandon won't be playing as he showed
last week. OOMM I think will be satisfied just to get qualified. You get these Elims, Belmont, and Golf on Jack's course
all in one day. Bring it on. tmbz1
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Bitter Truth on June 02, 2026, 05:24:48 PM
Speaking of bonus, I see that Battle Of Lake Erie has once again snuck up on me.
Pretty meaty field there. Also on Saturday
Post Positions – 40th Battle of Lake Erie
Post-Horse-Driver-Trainer-Morning Line
1-Women Layer – Luke Hanners – Virgil Morgan Jr. – 6-1
2-Mossdale Ben N – Jim Marohn Jr. – Peter Tritton – 4-1
3-Captain Albano – Todd McCarthy – Noel Daley – 3-1
4-Helium N – Dan Noble – Christi Noble – 12-1
5-Prince Hal Hanover – Matt Kakaley – Dr. Ian Moore – 9-2
6-Ken Hanover – Brett Miller – Roland Mallar – 7-2
7-For Once Inmy Life – Jordan Stratton – Cory Stratton – 15-1
8-Bythemissal – Chris Page – Ron Burke – 20-1
9-Huntinthelastdolar – Tyler Smith – Per Engblom – 10-1
Note: Huntinthelastdola r starts from the second tier.

Looks like Ken Hanover's cup of tea. Plenty of burning, Pick up some cover. Come calling.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Brown jug on June 02, 2026, 05:26:38 PM
going to be some fireworks for sure
do not sleep on sweet lovin lou in the first elim
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: JT on June 02, 2026, 06:38:40 PM
Do the winners of the elims get to pick their post position for the final?
Just read on DRF Harness an elimination win just guarantees pp2 thru pp 6
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Laag on June 02, 2026, 08:54:52 PM
what complete bs that like 6 of the top contenders are in one division while the first division is extremely weak sauce. I thought pretty much every track seperates to avoid a troubling situation that we just got.  With only 5 of 8 qualifying you better believe they will be trying...dont want to somehow get nipped for 5th finishing 6th because you waited to sprint to the end and you got boxed in
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Pacer 2 on June 02, 2026, 09:03:46 PM
It'll be interesting who draws into each division
What do you wanna bet OOMM and Brandon are not in the same division as Bj?
Also BJ' s pp 3,4,5, or 6? No way he gets 1 or 8 hole.

  LOSER!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Pacer 2 on June 02, 2026, 09:04:40 PM
Man I was way wrong..   

     You're ALWAYS WRONG DUMBASS!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: JIDGE on June 02, 2026, 09:14:07 PM
This loaded elimination might be more interesting than the final. Do not discount Melillo and Ubrute/Gingras can throw a wrench in BJ and Brandon's plans.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Harness racer on June 02, 2026, 09:19:35 PM
Both of those are definitely good enough to not have to give into the favs.  I’m predicting one of the big 3 in that elim doesn’t make the final.  Sucks, definitely should’ve been seeded so this doesn’t happen.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on June 02, 2026, 09:20:35 PM
I think BJ will make his way to the front pretty easily.  Nobody is going to risk hooking up in an elim.  They’ll take a shot the last 1/4 or 1/8 but he’ll get his way.  The final will be a different story.

Don’t think this at all - Yannick and Bartlett know nothing but to leave.  Everyone else will figure that Bob will power move to the lead down the backside and want a pocket trip.  Will be very surprised if we don’t see a sub 26 first panel.   The move for Bob is to settle mid pack in a shorter field and fish cover off of what I expect to be honest fractions.  Fear for the connections is that Bob isn’t confident enough in his abilities to drive this way. 
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Brown jug on June 02, 2026, 09:21:36 PM
sorry laag  but why would you think tracks "separate" the top contenders to ensure they all make the final
every horse pays the same payments and therefore deserve the same chance of getting to the final
as it turns out some owners who maybe dont have one of the best horses but had the stones to put up the last entry fee and luckily draw into the weaker first division now have a great chance to get to the final
the way the draw shakes out could lead to an awesome final, likely two of beau, brandon, oomm will end up in the open draw for the final which depending where they draw into the final will make things very interesting
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: rainman2 on June 02, 2026, 09:34:26 PM
sorry laag  but why would you think tracks "separate" the top contenders to ensure they all make the final
every horse pays the same payments and therefore deserve the same chance of getting to the final
as it turns out some owners who maybe dont have one of the best horses but had the stones to put up the last entry fee and luckily draw into the weaker first division now have a great chance to get to the final
the way the draw shakes out could lead to an awesome final, likely two of beau, brandon, oomm will end up in the open draw for the final which depending where they draw into the final will make things very interesting
The other important part of this race are you racing to win of just get into the final next week?
This would make it more interesting-have the elimination winners draw for 1-2 2nd place finishers draw fir 3-4etc just like the little brown jug. Finish 5th and get in, you get the 9/10 posts! Simple solution??
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: JIDGE on June 02, 2026, 10:18:17 PM
Both of those are definitely good enough to not have to give into the favs.  I’m predicting one of the big 3 in that elim doesn’t make the final.  Sucks, definitely should’ve been seeded so this doesn’t happen.

Agree. One or possibly two of the so called top three could get roughed up or locked in. Dunn will probably take OOMM because of the inside draw. BJ and only BJ gets a hole when he leaves -- who better to follow. Lots of strategy in this one to see who will face the mediocre five from division one. A new top colt could possibly emerge for the final.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: JT on June 02, 2026, 10:29:46 PM
     You're ALWAYS WRONG DUMBASS!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Says Poser 2.. I admitted I was wrong, could you do that, very doubtful
You are wrong on everything you post on.
You've probably never bet on a race in your life, much less sat behind one
Universally known as the worst poster on here.
Harness racing thriving ngc3
You sakit/G and Scrape the paint deserve one another.
Horrible take after Horrible take
Sing the praises of the corrupt shithole called Yonkers

Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: JT on June 02, 2026, 10:39:59 PM
The other important part of this race are you racing to win of just get into the final next week?
This would make it more interesting-have the elimination winners draw for 1-2 2nd place finishers draw fir 3-4etc just like the little brown jug. Finish 5th and get in, you get the 9/10 posts! Simple solution??
Actually rainman2 the LBJ changed that rule starting this upcoming year
If there are 2 eliminations the two winners will draw from pp's1 thru 4...and an open draw for the remaining posts..
If there are 3 eliminations.. very doubtful.. the 3 winners will draw for pp's 1 thru 5

Quote from Tom Wright.. President of the LBJ society..
"The changes are designed to enhance the competitiveness and wagering appeal of the second heat while preserving meaningful incentives for elimination heat performance"
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Laag on June 02, 2026, 11:25:17 PM
The other important part of this race are you racing to win of just get into the final next week?
This would make it more interesting-have the elimination winners draw for 1-2 2nd place finishers draw fir 3-4etc just like the little brown jug. Finish 5th and get in, you get the 9/10 posts! Simple solution??

seperating to balance the divisions to make them fair. There is no reason why the top 5 contenders are all in one race and pretty much after thoughts in the 2nd.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Ramone on June 03, 2026, 09:07:59 AM
Dexter Dunn chose Brandon Blvd. No driver yet listed for Odds On Mr Mambo.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Pacer 2 on June 03, 2026, 10:01:11 AM
.. I admitted I was wrong

  Admitting it hardly makes up for you being wrong AGAIN douchebag!  73cv.2


   You prolly cheat on your partner and think admitting it makes it ok!    73cv.2

    Ya expect a badge for admitting you're wrong??   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on June 03, 2026, 09:47:52 PM
NA Cup always has a Canadian tilt but still a unique group of trainers.  No Pelling, Toscano, Takter, Alayna, etc
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Sweet on June 03, 2026, 09:55:45 PM
  Admitting it hardly makes up for you being wrong AGAIN douchebag!  73cv.2


   You prolly cheat on your partner and think admitting it makes it ok!    73cv.2

    Ya expect a badge for admitting you're wrong??   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

What, Rocky for his wealth and deep involvement, and JT, because he don't need to rubber neck up someones ass to put a big winning number together.

Hypocrisy, a skeevie bottom feeder, and you're jealous too of him  ngc3...go count turds in the cloud and go sleepy b!tch  ngc3
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: wizardofoz on June 04, 2026, 12:08:59 AM

9 -- Pace, purse $50,000 (DD,EX,L5,OM,P3,SU,TR)
PEPSI NORTH AMERICA CUP XLIII: ELIMINATION - 3 YEAR OLD OPEN. STARTING FEE: $8,000 CDN $6,100 USD.
Post Time: 10:00 PM      Lasix: 5:45 PM        Horses Entered: 16(split)
   1 Gentlemans Club                           A Mccarthy           A Lambert             15-1
   2 Redland Rocket Man                        L Roy                J Pentland            20-1
   3 Melillo                                   R Wrenn              R Burke               10-1
   4 Odds On Mr Mamba                          Ja Macdonald         M Wrenn                7-2
   5 Ubrute                                    Y Gingras            R Burke               20-1
   6 Talbot Andretti                           J Bartlett           J Leamon              20-1
   7 Beau Jangles                              B Mcclure            I Moore                4-5
   8 Brandon Blvd                              D Dunn               A Harris               3-1
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: wizardofoz on June 04, 2026, 12:10:45 AM
Dunn will be leaving at the start with Beau Jangles, 'no bout a doubt it', and he opted off a world record holder horse as well!
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Sweet on June 04, 2026, 12:19:55 AM
Dunn will be leaving at the start with Beau Jangles, 'no bout a doubt it', and he opted off a world record holder horse as well!

They'll go 56, they'll meaning BJ  ngc3 sit their like in slow motion, come home in 55-54.  So 7/3,4,8.

That was hard  ngc3
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Brown jug on June 04, 2026, 07:03:16 AM
right merlin, an shortage  of some big name trainers
i would base that on a combination of factors
1., they don't have any top level 3 year olds
2. they dont want to tangle with the big 3 colts in this race
3. save their horses  for sires stakes and smaller 3 yr old races
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: wizardofoz on June 04, 2026, 12:12:04 PM
Bartlett will force the pace to be faster than 56:0 to secure a spot near the lead in the race to insure he gets to the final.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: AgentQ on June 04, 2026, 07:44:58 PM
To the morons who continually take shots at bobby, youre dumb as mud. The kid is a special talent and those that actually have a clue, understand that full well. He's won a hambletonian, a BC and numerous other stakes with not many opportunities. Yes, he very cautious with horses especially young ones but don't conflate that with no talent or nerves. That couldn't be further from the truth but most ploppsters are hillbillies.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Sweet on June 04, 2026, 08:21:55 PM
To the morons who continually take shots at bobby, youre dumb as mud. The kid is a special talent and those that actually have a clue, understand that full well. He's won a hambletonian, a BC and numerous other stakes with not many opportunities. Yes, he very cautious with horses especially young ones but don't conflate that with no talent or nerves. That couldn't be further from the truth but most ploppsters are hillbillies.

You and bobble can both F yourselves, then  11.gn  ngc3

Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Mohawk mac on June 04, 2026, 08:31:35 PM
Beau can go a :54 half in his sleep.  He has the most effortless looking gait I've ever seen.  VERY high cruising speed.  Love him or hate him, McClure is 15 for 15 and has performed admirably in high pressure situations.

2.80  2.10  cancelled   tmbz1
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: SeattleSlew on June 04, 2026, 09:24:12 PM
Nobody has discussed the elimination draws for the Fan Hanover, where exactly the same "stacking" happened, so that in the 6th. you have She's A Bulldog, Loua Dipa and A Clean Deal in the same elimination.
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: rainman2 on June 04, 2026, 10:52:11 PM
9 -- Pace, purse $50,000 (DD,EX,L5,OM,P3,SU,TR)
PEPSI NORTH AMERICA CUP XLIII: ELIMINATION - 3 YEAR OLD OPEN. STARTING FEE: $8,000 CDN $6,100 USD.
Post Time: 10:00 PM      Lasix: 5:45 PM        Horses Entered: 16(split)
   1 Gentlemans Club                           A Mccarthy           A Lambert             15-1
   2 Redland Rocket Man                        L Roy                J Pentland            20-1
   3 Melillo                                   R Wrenn              R Burke               10-1
   4 Odds On Mr Mamba                          Ja Macdonald         M Wrenn                7-2
   5 Ubrute                                    Y Gingras            R Burke               20-1
   6 Talbot Andretti                           J Bartlett           J Leamon              20-1
   7 Beau Jangles                              B Mcclure            I Moore                4-5
   8 Brandon Blvd                              D Dunn               A Harris               3-1

Is McClure the best driver Canada has to offer from Mohawk for this important race? Is McClure the new Paul Macdonell  of Somebeachsomewher e?
Title: Re: North America Cup
Post by: Mazola on June 04, 2026, 11:49:37 PM
Is McClure the best driver Canada has to offer from Mohawk for this important race? Is McClure the new Paul Macdonell  of Somebeachsomewher e?

Not even close. Bob is a way better driver than Paul ever was.
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