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Title: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2026, 10:57:20 AM
YES

 tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 11:06:46 AM
 ngc3

Odds On Mr. Mamba is a tiny horse that's fast.

Needed the whip to get some of the rust off and keep alert and looked great

BJ is a giant horse that's faster.

BJ in a couple of more races will be doing sub 148 miles with ease.

He's building slowly with that team but effectively.

Now being I follow the racing at both, handicapping and wager (good or bad  ngc3, bad then  ngc3) is irrelevant because Hoosier runs a tic or two faster than Mohawk, their shippers almost never replicate. 

BJ won't be beat by OOMM!  ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2026, 11:19:26 AM
PAUL

5000 MAMBA BEATS HIM ,,

YES NO ?

YOU TALK OUT OF YOUR FCKIN ASS LATELY ONCE AGAIN

I HAVE TO CORRECT YOU

5000 STACKS,,YEs 0R NO?

Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 12:47:23 PM
PAUL

5000 MAMBA BEATS HIM ,,

YES NO ?

YOU TALK OUT OF YOUR FCKIN ASS LATELY ONCE AGAIN

I HAVE TO CORRECT YOU

5000 STACKS,,YEs 0R NO?

Hey buddy  ngc3

How about an alternate instead of $5K, the first time they race, the loser of this "wager" has to change their plop screen name to "Ass Clown" for one year ngc3

And $200 loser fee to be Zelled to the winner after that race goes official!   ngc3

And an out, if the losing horse eventually beats the winning horse anytime after, the screen name can revert back immediately! ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 26, 2026, 01:24:32 PM
No.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 26, 2026, 01:31:30 PM
My vote is yes, but not for the NA Cup, somewhere else down the line.
NA Cup.. BJ has home field advantage and he has had a couple more starts this year.
My reasoning down the line somewhere...
Dexter vs the bobble head McClure
Who would you rather drive your horse?
Case closed ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 01:41:14 PM
My vote is yes, but not for the NA Cup, somewhere else down the line.
NA Cup.. BJ has home field advantage and he has had a couple more starts this year.
My reasoning down the line somewhere...
Dexter vs the bobble head McClure
Who would you rather drive your horse?
Case closed ngc3

Bulldog says Dexter ever day and leap year day too ngc3

If BJ could only speak ngc3

Damn it  ngc3

Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2026, 01:43:11 PM
Mamba has speed
Jangles can’t even sniff at

Jangles is great mamba is faster

He’s an Indy bred
Peter and Melanie are our friends
I’m pulling hard for this colt

5000    Bet Still stands PAULIE

Ps I know I. Canada with all the buddy buddy  help
They gonna give him

I’m stll taking  mamba





Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 01:55:27 PM
Mamba has speed
Jangles can’t even sniff at

Jangles is great mamba is faster

He’s an Indy bred
Peter and Melanie are our friends
I’m pulling hard for this colt

5000    Bet Still stands PAULIE

Ps I know I. Canada with all the buddy buddy  help
They gonna give him

I’m stll taking  mamba

 ngc3

You don't need my money you'll get better than 1-1 on your $5k betting OOOMB against BJ  ngc3

6-5, 7-5  ngc3

You'll never cash the ticket though  ngc3

I think my wager is money, embarrassment enough and friendly...my wager still stands.  So I'll sweeten it for you my $200 vs your $150 and all the same screen name rules, deal?

OOMM should enter the LBJ and all races BJ doesn't which will be most or all outside Canada.  The Wrenn's your friends know how to win that race and have the right horse for it!  ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2026, 01:58:05 PM
  quiet screens   

stfu

ok how bout you lose he gotta live in frankiepark for a month and walk frankie  for a month  but u have to live in the yard ina tent

no running water ,,bathing is up to you we will send you soap its included in bet
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 02:05:48 PM
  quiet screens   

stfu

ok how bout you lose he gotta live in frankiepark for a month and walk frankie  for a month  but u have to live in the yard ina tent

no running water ,,bathing is up to you we will send you soap its included in bet

Deal!

Sure that against you have to nair my balls and taint every week for a month (using your bare hands  ngc3) and change the water for the 2 Ferrel cats on this property while you live in a hammock by my pool this summer.   ngc3 Soap, bottle water, and mosquito spray included  tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2026, 02:10:40 PM
STOP YOU FCKIN  FREAK,,,  IM NOT YOUR BALL WASHER ..

OK REAL BET


DINNER IN FLORIDA OR DINNER CHITOWN LOSER BUYS..

I WILL BE IN FLORIDA IN JAN TO WATCH BAIES TRAIN,

IS THIS BET

FREAK BOY ?

Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 02:12:38 PM
STOP YOU FCKIN  FREAK,,,  IM NOT YOUR BALL WASHER ..

OK REAL BET


DINNER IN FLORIDA OR DINNER CHITOWN LOSER BUYS..

I WILL BE IN FLORIDA IN JAN TO WATCH BAIES TRAIN,

IS THIS BET

FREAK BOY ?

SOLD!  tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Harness racer on May 26, 2026, 02:30:22 PM
Bulldog says Dexter ever day and leap year day too ngc3

If BJ could only speak ngc3

Damn it  ngc3

I don't agree with you much, but your take on Bobblehead Bob is spot on.  He is as crooked as they come and will eventually get BJ beat!  I hope there is a horse out there to give him some kind of rivalry.  Good for the game!   tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Brown jug on May 26, 2026, 03:02:11 PM
the best we can hope for is that they hook up 3-4 times this year and have some epic battles
i agree harness racer , the sport needs it
casual fans or non fans love a hero but there has to be someone to push them
niatross, secretariat, yankees, dodgers, celtics etc, fans love dynasty and stars but someone has to be the foil
think ali and frazier etc

the bigger question is if this rivalry takes place who in the harness racing establishment is smart enough to know how to capitalize on it and make it a main stream story
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 03:04:51 PM
the best we can hope for is that they hook up 3-4 times this year and have some epic battles
i agree harness racer , the sport needs it
casual fans or non fans love a hero but there has to be someone to push them
niatross, secretariat, yankees, dodgers, celtics etc, fans love dynasty and stars but someone has to be the foil
think ali and frazier etc

the bigger question is if this rivalry takes place who in the harness racing establishment is smart enough to know how to capitalize on it and make it a main stream story


 tmbz1

I don't agree with you much, but your take on Bobblehead Bob is spot on.  He is as crooked as they come and will eventually get BJ beat!  I hope there is a horse out there to give him some kind of rivalry.  Good for the game!   tmbz1
tmbz1

I'm sure we'll find common ground beyond one of the biggest scumholes to put the colors on  ngc3

I want what you want but...

An owner and trainer strategizing on a plan to beat BJ, with one, even two...is bat sh!t...never, they want to win, build their own horse's legacy and fill their coffers and enter as a champion stud.

He'll race against those resigned to place

BJ faces every great horse's reality - a bad day, bad racing luck,  not a wish, just a statistical reality the more your race, otherwise he's improving at a rate where he'll go undefeated this year too building and improving, and then seek to break the world record at 4, undefeated.



Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Lance on May 26, 2026, 03:54:18 PM
I don't think you can compare at this point. ODDS ON MR MAMBA has been, to this point a regional sire stake horse. He's a very nice horse and has good connections. I hope they do well. He could really step up on the grand circuit stage.   But you are comparing one horse who is approaching $2 million who won a metro and breeders crown to a horse who won $500k and some sire stakes.   You can't really compare at all yet.   I'm sure others will step up but right now BJ is the King.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JIDGE on May 26, 2026, 04:09:22 PM
Probably not -- but Melillo and Brandon Blvd have the best shot.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Lance on May 26, 2026, 04:17:42 PM
Probably not -- but Melillo and Brandon Blvd have the best shot.
Yea, I agree. Both have looked good, Brandon Blvd has looked very good.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2026, 04:21:26 PM
PEPSI CUP ELIMS NEXT SAT ..I THINK ?
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Bitter Truth on May 26, 2026, 04:44:13 PM
Cool potential future names: Little Beaux Peep   Beaux Knows   Beaux Diddley ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 04:48:36 PM
PEPSI CUP ELIMS NEXT SAT ..I THINK ?

The Saturday after next, 6/6, same day as the Belmont Stakes held at the SPA who is racing a short meet 6/3 - 6/7/26 for that flagship race.

Here are the eligible horses to the Pepsi NA Cup:

https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/5-18-26/tracking-2026-pepsi-north-america-cup-contenders.html
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 26, 2026, 05:19:10 PM
I don't think you can compare at this point. ODDS ON MR MAMBA has been, to this point a regional sire stake horse. He's a very nice horse and has good connections. I hope they do well. He could really step up on the grand circuit stage.   But you are comparing one horse who is approaching $2 million who won a metro and breeders crown to a horse who won $500k and some sire stakes.   You can't really compare at all yet.   I'm sure others will step up but right now BJ is the King.

 tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 26, 2026, 06:49:54 PM
Cool potential future names: Little Beaux Peep   Beaux Knows   Beaux Diddley ;D
I think Bo knows Jate had some offspring with the name Bo in them, but none come to mind, different spelling of course ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SDST2009 on May 26, 2026, 06:58:00 PM
I don't think you can compare at this point. ODDS ON MR MAMBA has been, to this point a regional sire stake horse. He's a very nice horse and has good connections. I hope they do well. He could really step up on the grand circuit stage.   But you are comparing one horse who is approaching $2 million who won a metro and breeders crown to a horse who won $500k and some sire stakes.   You can't really compare at all yet.   I'm sure others will step up but right now BJ is the King.

Yup. If BJ had only won the Ontario SS and dodged the grand circuits, even as impressive as he's looked, everyone would be saying "wait'll he faces someone legitimate."

That said, just because OO Mr Mamba has only demolished sire stakes doesn't mean he CAN'T make that step up. I'll admit I know nothing about him, will find some replays next.

I have the utmost respect for Beau, but the odds are (no pun intended) he will get beat at some point. All the greats have and sometimes racing luck just plays out that way. I haven't personally seen one this year I'd classify as better than him but I don't this division that closely. Mellilo seems to have improved a good bit, whereas Burke's other good one from last year, Frantic Hvr, seems to have gone the other way so far.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SDST2009 on May 26, 2026, 07:00:15 PM
I think Bo knows Jate had some offspring with the name Bo in them, but none come to mind, different spelling of course ;D
Ro Sham Beau ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Third Over on May 26, 2026, 07:32:19 PM
Nope.. not happening, Beau's just starting to get sharp
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Checked Up on May 26, 2026, 08:44:37 PM
It's been a minute since we have had such a anticipated match up with Colts of this caliber! Personally I can hardly wait to see it!! tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Mazola on May 26, 2026, 08:54:39 PM
Cool potential future names: Little Beaux Peep   Beaux Knows   Beaux Diddley ;D

Beaux Hunk
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Meadow Ford on May 26, 2026, 09:29:11 PM
IMHO
BJ the better colt!
DD the better driver!
A coin toss!
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 26, 2026, 09:46:53 PM
Beaux Hunk

 ngc3

Oily Bohunk

Fruity Tooty Stables  ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 27, 2026, 08:28:53 AM
I would like one named Jingle Jangles ngc3
Agree with checked up. It'll be cool to see a few potential "super horses" battle each other rather then beat up on the local "competition"
Don't rule out or forget about Brandon Blvd either
Very nice horse, set the track record in the breeders crown elim and was sick in the final
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Mohawkmike on May 27, 2026, 10:05:50 AM
No shot mamba beats beau
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: getreal on May 27, 2026, 12:45:39 PM
No Shot? Cmon eh, I think he is pretty fast eh, aren't you being a bit ethnocentric, eh?
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: hoosierboy on May 27, 2026, 02:34:09 PM
Yes
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Harness racer on May 27, 2026, 03:06:54 PM
You can never say Mamba doesn't have a shot.  I horse that fast can steal any race!
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: macdaddi on May 27, 2026, 03:21:26 PM
NFW
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 27, 2026, 03:22:13 PM
NFW



gsac you fcvkin shithead
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 27, 2026, 03:27:52 PM
Mamba is so tiny, BJ and bobble possibly don't see him coming and OOMM slides right on by, and too late after that.  ngc3

That scenario makes sense, 1 in 8 chance, because I do believe bobble had to urge and BJ have to activate his "heart" at least once.  ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Lance on May 27, 2026, 04:24:00 PM
You can never say Mamba doesn't have a shot.  I horse that fast can steal any race!
I think the intriguing thing with Mamba is the unknown.  Obviously he has been ultra impressive so far.  When he steps up on the grand circuit he could be a monster and win some big races or he could be one of a few really good colts.   I guess the fun part is waiting to find out. 
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 27, 2026, 04:47:28 PM
For selfish reasons, I only hope that a lot of people feel strongly-----I hope very strongly-----that Mamba can beat BJ. So much to the point that Mamba goes off the favorite. In a wonderful world, he goes off the heavy favorite. Unfortunately, that world is called fantasy land, LOL.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Mohawkmike on May 27, 2026, 04:49:19 PM
Maybe 1 time he can beat him but if they race 3-4 times it would be Beau dominating but that’s just my opinion
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 27, 2026, 06:30:01 PM
Everyone is forgetting about Brandon Blvd. He is no slouch either.
I would say a 90% chance BJ wins the NA Cup. Home track
The 10% loss odds is strictly based on the bobble choke factor.
Let's see how he does in the Pace IF he gets his green card and comes to the states
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JIDGE on May 28, 2026, 12:07:11 AM
As much as I like Mamba his archrival up to this point has been a marginal Check Six colt -- What Nooo Waaay. The competition will be much stiffer north of the border. He's going to have to face Sweet Lou colts, Captaintreacherou s colts, and Downbytheseaside colts, and of course Jangles. And the fact that he is a gelding may also be a factor, as colts have historically been a tick faster.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 28, 2026, 12:13:14 AM
As much as I like Mamba his archrival up to this point has been a marginal Check Six colt -- What Nooo Waaay. The competition will be much stiffer north of the border. He's going to have to face Sweet Lou colts, Captaintreacherou s colts, and Downbytheseaside colts, and of course Jangles. And the fact that he is a gelding may also be a factor, as colts have historically been a tick faster.

 tmbz1

Thank you very much for bringing up he's a gelding.

In all our talk, it remained unsaid and overlooked by me!
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 28, 2026, 06:59:21 AM
 When he gets defeated, I predict every fucking idiot on this site will blame the driver. If he goes undefeated, every fucking idiot on this site will credit the horse, trainer, and groom.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 28, 2026, 10:45:05 AM
When he gets defeated, I predict every fucking idiot on this site will blame the driver. If he goes undefeated, every fucking idiot on this site will credit the horse, trainer, and groom.

When they win, would go undefeated, set records they'll look up and at the camera and credit GOD  ngc3

Look away Bernie   ngc3

He runs against as much as 500-1+ shots, unlikely bobble is going to get flack any time soon - we'll see though!  ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Anakin on May 28, 2026, 11:23:19 AM
An interesting sidenote to this is whether Dunn will end up driving Mamba or Brandon Blvd. It is not clear at this time which one he will take.

Whichever one he selects will have the better chance of beating Beau Jangles.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 28, 2026, 11:30:27 AM
An interesting sidenote to this is whether Dunn will end up driving Mamba or Brandon Blvd. It is not clear at this time which one he will take.

Whichever one he selects will have the better chance of beating Beau Jangles.

Brandon still has to race, qualifier only.

Dexter's body language after Mamba's first race at Hoosier, his expressions toward Peter showed a lot of confidence.

Was really beautiful watching Melanie grab OOMM and kiss him on the bridge of the nose in the winners circle.  The replay video ended after that!  ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: White Rabbit on May 28, 2026, 01:50:16 PM
PAUL

5000 MAMBA BEATS HIM ,,

YES NO ?

YOU TALK OUT OF YOUR FCKIN ASS LATELY ONCE AGAIN

I HAVE TO CORRECT YOU

Luc
You sure you know horses. Mamba came off the last turn hanging on the left line . If he does that trying to chase down Beau , Beau will put 2 on him before Mamba straights up in the lane. Watch the head from Beau’s  last start. Whole length of the stretch, straight as a string.
Indiana SS is the weakest of the big 5
Ontario, Ohio, NY, PA are all better the IND
I will take you up on the 5000 too.

5000 STACKS,,YEs 0R NO?
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 28, 2026, 02:05:22 PM


MY BET IS WITH PAULIE

I DONT KNOW YOU FROMA BAG OF MARBLES,,I KNOW PAULIE PERSONALLY

THK YOU FOR THE KIND JESTURE BUT ME AND PAUL HAVE A BET ALREADY..

YOU CHEER FOR YOUR HOME CO\LT I WILL CHEER FOR MINE..
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 28, 2026, 02:06:59 PM
MY BET IS WITH PAULIE

I DONT KNOW YOU FROMA BAG OF MARBLES,,I KNOW PAULIE PERSONALLY

THK YOU FOR THE KIND JESTURE BUT ME AND PAUL HAVE A BET ALREADY..

YOU CHEER FOR YOUR HOME CO\LT I WILL CHEER FOR MINE..

If I win, I'll pay the tip, BJ should be odds on  tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Mazola on May 28, 2026, 03:10:17 PM
If the Indiana sire stakes horse can beat 2025 Horse of the Year who has come back strong, I'll eat Nancy Takters shorts.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 28, 2026, 04:25:56 PM
Brandon still has to race, qualifier only.

Dexter's body language after Mamba's first race at Hoosier, his expressions toward Peter showed a lot of confidence.

Was really beautiful watching Melanie grab OOMM and kiss him on the bridge of the nose in the winners circle.  The replay video ended after that!  ;D
That is wrong Trig..

https://youtu.be/ndxBoIQ7_l0?si=736xNvB68IRca3cN
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 28, 2026, 04:48:53 PM
That is wrong Trig..

https://youtu.be/ndxBoIQ7_l0?si=736xNvB68IRca3cN

Yup, didn't know about that one at Plainridge, nice catch and correction JT!

The way that Brandon and BJ can slow that second quarter with ease is frightening control, wow.

Brandon was restrained hard at the wire too.

Sometimes a horse decides to stop running if they have to do that too much, seen it.

Meshuggah is a good example, until the crown  ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 28, 2026, 04:54:56 PM
Source: Standardbred Canada https://share.google/ejyqTuuf62ff8yfvZ

Nice article about Brandon
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on May 28, 2026, 05:05:57 PM
Be interesting to see who Dunn drives should Mamba & Brandon Blvd both qualify for the finals of the N.A. Cup. Jason Bartlett is on Brandon Blvd at Mohawk this Saturday in the SBSW because Dunn is out of the country or will Bartlett be his regular driver if Dunn is committed to Mamba.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SDST2009 on May 28, 2026, 08:10:04 PM
Everyone is forgetting about Brandon Blvd. He is no slouch either.
I would say a 90% chance BJ wins the NA Cup. Home track
The 10% loss odds is strictly based on the bobble choke factor.
Let's see how he does in the Pace IF he gets his green card and comes to the states

If I'm not mistaken, Harris took Brando Blvd to Mohawk for the prep race this week, which will be a good race to watch.

ETA: yup. he's up north Saturday based on the SC article posted above.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 29, 2026, 02:30:36 PM
If the Indiana sire stakes horse can beat 2025 Horse of the Year who has come back strong, I'll eat Nancy Takters shorts.

 ngc3

Good one! Thanks for the laugh!
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on May 29, 2026, 04:54:07 PM
If the Indiana sire stakes horse can beat 2025 Horse of the Year who has come back strong, I'll eat Nancy Takters shorts.


STOP YOUR MAKING  ME HORNY


SHES DELICIOUS

Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 29, 2026, 05:19:26 PM
Maz tried to slip by us a WIN WIN, good job Rocky!  ngc3

If OOMM beats BJ I'll let Nancy sit on my face while eating a cannoli  ngc3

The pasty!  ;D

Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JIDGE on May 29, 2026, 09:32:56 PM
In addition to Brandon Blvd and Melillo do not overlook half a million-dollar winner Fragment if he travels north.
This Engblom trained colt just destroyed a Saratoga NYSS field in the slop, with two broken headpoles, in 51.4.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 29, 2026, 09:47:16 PM
In addition to Brandon Blvd and Melillo do not overlook half a million-dollar winner Fragment if he travels north.
This Engblom trained colt just destroyed a Saratoga NYSS field in the slop, with two broken headpoles, in 51.4.
Thanks for the tip and heads up tmbz1
What is the status of Engblom?
I thought he was getting banded
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Checked Up on May 30, 2026, 04:15:38 PM
If someone is forced to eat Nancy's shorts they better pray it happens soon because the size of that meal is getting larger! 73cv.2
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 30, 2026, 04:19:14 PM
If someone is forced to eat Nancy's shorts they better pray it happens soon because the size of that meal is getting larger! 73cv.2

Some of these couldn't get laid in a whorehouse, they're volunteers....one of them, her biggest fan want her to use him as a toilet.

He out bid the rest.

He might be pleased very often then  ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 30, 2026, 08:25:33 PM
Everyone is forgetting about Brandon Blvd. He is no slouch either.
I would say a 90% chance BJ wins the NA Cup. Home track
The 10% loss odds is strictly based on the bobble choke factor.
Let's see how he does in the Pace IF he gets his green card and comes to the states
God sometimes it's to easy being right ngc3
148.1 with little urging for Brandon Blvd.. ;D
Next few weeks will be fun ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 30, 2026, 08:35:28 PM
God sometimes it's to easy being right ngc3
148.1 with little urging for Brandon Blvd.. ;D
Next few weeks will be fun ;D

They brought BJ along slow, he could pull a 148 now no problem.  Take at easy.  He's been wasting away against pugs.  They will be fun though, but it's about peaking at the right time when you go up against monsters. 
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 30, 2026, 08:39:36 PM
They brought BJ along slow, he could pull a 148 now no problem.  Take at easy.  He's been wasting away against pugs.  They will be fun though, but it's about peaking at the right time when you go up against monsters.
All I know is we have at least 3 monsters that will be competing the next 2 weeks
I have no dog in the fight or have no  rooting interests
I am just happy for the entertainment factor
Absolutely about peaking at the right time
The Cup is a huge race obviously..but its a long season
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 30, 2026, 08:40:55 PM
All I know is we have at least 3 monsters that will be competing the next 2 weeks
I have no dog in the fight or have no  rooting interests
I am just happy for the entertainment factor
Absolutely about peaking at the right time
The Cup is a huge race obviously..but its a long season

But being how easy BJ has it including travel, like going nowhere to race, he loses, his stock plummets.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 30, 2026, 08:52:17 PM
But being how easy BJ has it including travel, like going nowhere to race, he loses, his stock plummets.
Correct..And he should win, home track advantage.
If I had to pick for the NA cup now it would be BJ
We joke about McClure
But in all honesty if you polled anyone on here between DD, Bartlett and bobble the order would be unanimous.Horses win races but drivers can lose them.
All the pressure on the bobble  ngc3
His head might fall off ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SoulAssassin on May 30, 2026, 09:18:04 PM
Correct..And he should win, home track advantage.
If I had to pick for the NA cup now it would be BJ
We joke about McClure
But in all honesty if you polled anyone on here between DD, Bartlett and bobble the order would be unanimous.Horses win races but drivers can lose them.
All the pressure on the bobble  ngc3
His head might fall off ngc3

maybee bobble can giv dd n jasin sum tipps on handlin da hambo presshure

mamba can tayke beaus n brandons buckets 2 da test barn for dem
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on May 30, 2026, 09:23:42 PM
maybee bobble can giv dd n jasin sum tipps on handlin da hambo presshure

mamba can tayke beaus n brandons buckets 2 da test barn for dem
Give me a break, I know McClure won a hambo
So if you owned a horse of that caliber you would chose McClure over Dexter and Bartlett? I think not.. and if so your opinion means nothing.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 30, 2026, 09:27:51 PM
maybee bobble can giv dd n jasin sum tipps on handlin da hambo presshure

mamba can tayke beaus n brandons buckets 2 da test barn for dem

 ngc3

I think it's on demand... ngc3

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTy2yQFOMBIZOXIIJNFk_X-ZnmLkgZzV-viXQ&s)
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SoulAssassin on May 30, 2026, 09:48:37 PM
ngc3

I think it's on demand... ngc3

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTy2yQFOMBIZOXIIJNFk_X-ZnmLkgZzV-viXQ&s)

beau
brandon
melillo

nuffin rong wit bein 4th
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 30, 2026, 09:58:23 PM
beau
brandon
melillo

nuffin rong wit bein 4th

Beau's training, racing strategy suggests he's building toward a 119 - 120 3/4 so he can no matter what destroy anyone.

It's easy when you have it your own way, but respect to the horse because he ain't close to peaking and wins for fun in the meantime.

I don't think these clowns can beat him.

Beau will light it up at the right time.  tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Checked Up on May 30, 2026, 10:43:36 PM
It's awful early in the season for the Mamba to be locked on a line already,it seems to me.I guess we'll all find out together.(if true)
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: wizardofoz on May 30, 2026, 11:00:20 PM
Brandon Blvd tonight video: https://youtu.be/UBifi5G3VHw
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: hoosierboy on May 31, 2026, 11:21:16 AM
Brandon Blvd deserves a mention with these two
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on May 31, 2026, 11:36:54 AM
The big question is, who Dunn drives in the finals assuming they both make it?
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Checked Up on May 31, 2026, 12:40:14 PM
My vote is yes, but not for the NA Cup, somewhere else down the line.
NA Cup.. BJ has home field advantage and he has had a couple more starts this year.
My reasoning down the line somewhere...
Dexter vs the bobble head McClure
Who would you rather drive your horse?
Case closed ngc3
I don't consider a very good horse to be a super horse if he/she requires a "HOME FIELD! A SUPER HORSE SHOULD BE ABLE TO OVERCOME ALL....EVEN RACING ON A CORN FIELD!!
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Brown jug on May 31, 2026, 02:39:17 PM
Just my thought on the drivers
tough spot for Harris, if mamba and brandon blvd draw separate he could put dunn on brandon but needs to know who dunn is going with in the final
if dunn is not committed i suspect harris puts jason down in the elim
any thoughts ??
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Meadow Ford on May 31, 2026, 03:03:30 PM
Just my thought on the drivers
tough spot for Harris, if mamba and brandon blvd draw separate he could put dunn on brandon but needs to know who dunn is going with in the final
if dunn is not committed i suspect harris puts jason down in the elim
any thoughts ??
What if the Harris group offer Dunn a Breeding share if he stays with Brandon Blvd. all year?
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on May 31, 2026, 03:06:31 PM
Commitments are made to be broken. If a horse turns out not to be the real deal the great drivers will jump ship.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Laag on May 31, 2026, 06:48:02 PM
Brandon>Mamba
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: The Answer on May 31, 2026, 07:06:44 PM
What if the Harris group offer Dunn a Breeding share if he stays with Brandon Blvd. all year?

Already gets 10% on all Odds On drives. What makes you think Blvd. will be a stallion? Let alone a share that would be worth anything.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JIDGE on May 31, 2026, 08:21:35 PM
Already gets 10% on all Odds On drives. What makes you think Blvd. will be a stallion? Let alone a share that would be worth anything.
Standard is 5% for all drives -- if he's got a special deal for 10% good for him. Chances are Brandon is headed for a stallion career just off his 2yr. old year and his breeding.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: 49mile on May 31, 2026, 08:53:51 PM
When he gets defeated, I predict every fucking idiot on this site will blame the driver. If he goes undefeated, every fucking idiot on this site will credit the horse, trainer, and groom.

The only way BJ gets beat.... is from a bad drive.  Bob admitted that he's nervous now driving BJ in the winner circle interview last week.  He was driving against his buddies... the US drivers will not be so kind.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Anakin on May 31, 2026, 08:58:49 PM
In addition to Brandon Blvd and Melillo do not overlook half a million-dollar winner Fragment if he travels north.
This Engblom trained colt just destroyed a Saratoga NYSS field in the slop, with two broken headpoles, in 51.4.

Fragment is not eligible to NA Cup, and is racing this Wednesday at Buffalo in a NYSS race.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on May 31, 2026, 10:53:23 PM
If I was Harris I would have wanted Bartlett to be a be easier on the horse knowing he was going to race 3x in 3 weeks.  Not a huge Bartlett fan - too much point and go for my liking but definitely works for him
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Mohawk mac on May 31, 2026, 11:09:27 PM
I've seen all of Beau's races including his 2026 qualifiers.  Watched Brandon last night.  Watched Mamba's 2026 races 3 or 4 times.

While we all know anything can and often does happen in a horse race, IMHO BJ is clearly the best of the three barring unforeseen circumtances.  He doesn't need a good trip, just not a horribly troubled one.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on May 31, 2026, 11:21:42 PM
I've seen all of Beau's races including his 2026 qualifiers.  Watched Brandon last night.  Watched Mamba's 2026 races 3 or 4 times.

While we all know anything can and often does happen in a horse race, IMHO BJ is clearly the best of the three barring unforeseen circumtances.  He doesn't need a good trip, just not a horribly troubled one.

Beau Jangles cutting these fractions v these

25 3/5    53    121 (breather  ngc3)   146 4/5.   -----> Winner's Circle

Can't get locked in.

Can't do it any other way.

Bottom out the field.

They sit a few lengths off, they'll need a 25 flat, possibly 24 and change off their 121 and change to 122.  While taking a turn wide, I don't think so  ngc3

Maybe we'll get 4/5 on him  ngc3

 ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2026, 04:22:20 PM
Beau Jangles cutting these fractions v these

25 3/5    53    121 (breather  ngc3)   146 4/5.   -----> Winner's Circle

Can't get locked in.

Can't do it any other way.

Bottom out the field.

They sit a few lengths off, they'll need a 25 flat, possibly 24 and change off their 121 and change to 122.  While taking a turn wide, I don't think so  ngc3

Maybe we'll get 4/5 on him  ngc3

 ;D

CANT WEIGHT TILL SAT  ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 02, 2026, 07:49:11 PM
All three in same division

We shall see I say DEXTER takes mamba
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Mazola on June 02, 2026, 09:55:31 PM
All three in same division

We shall see I say DEXTER takes mamba

I don't know. That Andrew Harris account is a good one to have this year.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Harness racer on June 02, 2026, 11:17:39 PM
I don't know. That Andrew Harris account is a good one to have this year.

I was thinking the same thing.  If he picks mamba you know he believes that horse can beat jangles and is an absolute monster!  If not, you know he thinks none of them can beat BJ and he’s going to keep Harris and company happy.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Mazola on June 03, 2026, 10:27:39 AM
Brandon is the pick tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Lance on June 03, 2026, 03:00:58 PM
Not super surprised. Brandon Bvld. is a very nice horse that's been tested at the top level and comes from a barn with lots of high end horses.  He's driven both so he must have a feel who the better horse is.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JIDGE on June 03, 2026, 07:27:46 PM
Now we know who Dunn thinks is the better horse even with an outside post -- and keeping in good graces with Harris doesn't hurt.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on June 03, 2026, 09:44:15 PM
Surprised Wrenn’s decided on JMac.  He has the favorite in the first division for local connections.  While not call Zeron or T McCarthy who don’t have drives and will stay with the horse in the final.  Both don’t have a top three year so probably stay with you the rest of the year
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 03, 2026, 09:49:53 PM
Surprised Wrenn’s decided on JMac.  He has the favorite in the first division for local connections.  While not call Zeron or T McCarthy who don’t have drives and will stay with the horse in the final.  Both don’t have a top three year so probably stay with you the rest of the year

JMac is a great driver, his track, and when he's not a cheating crumb bum smiley face phony wretch  ngc3

No one is parking him out, not giving a tuck from home.

Huge respect advantage.

They're communists there in Canada  ngc3 - you do for me I'll do for you, I think they keep scorecard so at the end of the year it all balances out so the ass rape only goes in one direction, me and company ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 03, 2026, 10:04:49 PM
JMac is a great driver, his track, and when he's not a cheating crumb bum smiley face phony wretch  ngc3

No one is parking him out, not giving a tuck from home.

Huge respect advantage.

They're communists there in Canada  ngc3 - you do for me I'll do for you, I think they keep scorecard so at the end of the year it all balances out so the ass rape only goes in one direction, me and company ngc3

he drove my horse in PEPSI cup last yr  like a complete asshole  in the elims last yr,,,

he apologized to my trainer afterwards  which didnt matter ..inside outside inside outside inside outside 3 fckin times eventually finally  fckin broke him in the top or middle of the stretch ,,, we were not winning but we had chance  just to make the final which was our goal,,,

Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 03, 2026, 10:10:42 PM
he drove my horse in PEPSI cup last yr  like a complete asshole  in the elims last yr,,,

he apologized which didnt matter ..inside outside inside outside eventually finally  fckin broke him in the top or middle of the stretch ,,, we were not winning but we had chance  just to make the final which was our goal,,,

I wouldn't let him valet a wrecked car ngc3..those f'ckers you need to be on the inside, it's all rigged.

Not sure how deep,I think he answers to killers, he f'd Chantilly, who knows maybe a million dollar off shore wager. 

One thing to make an argument, but yours tops mine.

He's still breathing, that in itself is unreal  ngc3

I admit it!  ngc3

There are not enough funerals for unnatural causes in the harness racing world.  8)
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 03, 2026, 10:19:56 PM
go watch the fckin replay see if im bs'ing 

like i said we had no fckin chance to win the final NONE

we just tried to make the final,,which wood have made us very very happy
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 03, 2026, 10:25:28 PM
go watch the fckin replay see if im bs'ing 

like i said we had no fckin chance to win the final NONE

we just tried to make the final,,which wood have made us very very happy
Yeh, I don't doubt you.

You definitely win the argument against.

Experience beats logic, you win!

Personal experience, F, many here owe for thinking twice.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 04, 2026, 08:29:54 AM
1 of the 3 will not make the final

i predict tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 04, 2026, 10:33:06 AM
1 of the 3 will not make the final

i predict tmbz1

The only way that can happen is if someone goes funny, why.

Stay on that pace, now worse than 6th.  Go 56, come home in 55-54.

7 / 3,4,8

If any of those 3 can't do it, they deserve to be out.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on June 04, 2026, 11:27:34 AM
The only way that can happen is if someone goes funny, why.

Stay on that pace, now worse than 6th.  Go 56, come home in 55-54.

7 / 3,4,8

If any of those 3 can't do it, they deserve to be out.
Yes 7/3-4-8
The 10 cent super might pay a dollar ngc3
The only way the big 3 don't make the final is a driving catastrophe.
OOMM and BB will be looking to just qualify. They won't do anything crazy
BJ will be looking to win.. to keep the undefeated record intact
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: AgentQ on June 04, 2026, 07:49:03 PM
mamba is a very nice fast little horse. He will get his bridle jerked on saturday.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Checked Up on June 04, 2026, 09:58:45 PM
Mamba is a nice colt,but Jangles is spectacular imo! tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SDST2009 on June 05, 2026, 09:16:37 PM
mamba is a very nice fast little horse. He will get his bridle jerked on saturday.

This is my impression as well. No shame at all in what he is, which is a little money making machine on a regional level. My sense is he will be a little over his skis Saturday.

That said, I'd love to see him come up with a huge mile and make the 3yocp division more interesting.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 05, 2026, 09:42:24 PM
When Melillo was installed as a 10-1 ML horse after an unreal performance on a 5/8 track.

Burke horse.

Drew good in the 3 hole.

Some @sshole was trying to be cute.

Looks like the rain that was forecasted earlier in the week has lessened to nothing.

I wonder what that exacta probable would be?

73 $7?
37 $21?


Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SDST2009 on June 05, 2026, 09:46:34 PM
When Melillo was installed as a 10-1 ML horse after an unreal performance on a 5/8 track.

Burke horse.

Drew good in the 3 hole.

Some @sshole was trying to be cute.

Looks like the rain that was forecasted earlier in the week has lessened to nothing.

I wonder what that exacta probable would be?

73 $7?
37 $21?

I think Melillo is way more live than the morning line gives him.

The interesting thing about this elim is, BJ is the only one who really has anything to lose. It's not hard to get into the final. It will be super interesting to watch.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 05, 2026, 09:52:36 PM
I think Melillo is way more live than the morning line gives him.

The interesting thing about this elim is, BJ is the only one who really has anything to lose. It's not hard to get into the final. It will be super interesting to watch.

BJ could pull two back to back 147 where they have to try to catch a 121.

All he's done is qualify against Canadian rats besides the real qualifiers.

If you stay too far off the pace you need a 25, or 24 and change, while he might still have 146 and change in him.

He ain't getting beat.

He'll do that back to back weeks I think.

He's about as rested and untraveled as a homeboy horse could be.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on June 05, 2026, 10:03:10 PM
BJ could pull two back to back 147 where they have to try to catch a 121.

All he's done is qualify against Canadian rats besides the real qualifiers.

If you stay too far off the pace you need a 25, or 24 and change, while he might still have 146 and change in him.

He ain't getting beat.

He'll do that back to back weeks I think.

He's about as rested and untraveled as a homeboy horse could be.
He isn't losing tomorrow night
Next week is the test
I am curious..
Will there be place and show wagering
His most recent races its been win only
Granted huge step up in competition
I am guessing yes
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 05, 2026, 10:15:52 PM
He isn't losing tomorrow night
Next week is the test
I am curious..
Will there be place and show wagering
His most recent races its been win only
Granted huge step up in competition
I am guessing yes

You want to beat this horse you need to find that insane horse with that all out driver, who is it?

This particular series, is wrapped up.

The advantage is if I'm correct, the track is fast I think who we could figure to show up behind him if he's doing 121.

Burke is a f'ing pig, 1/4 of the entire field.  ngc3

If he knows he can't win why show up, grab the other 50%?
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: rainman2 on June 05, 2026, 10:30:01 PM
I think the intriguing thing with Mamba is the unknown.  Obviously he has been ultra impressive so far.  When he steps up on the grand circuit he could be a monster and win some big races or he could be one of a few really good colts.   I guess the fun part is waiting to find out.

Mamba is racing in his backyard!

A tall order in the biggest race of the year!!
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SDST2009 on June 05, 2026, 10:43:16 PM
BJ could pull two back to back 147 where they have to try to catch a 121.

All he's done is qualify against Canadian rats besides the real qualifiers.

If you stay too far off the pace you need a 25, or 24 and change, while he might still have 146 and change in him.

He ain't getting beat.

He'll do that back to back weeks I think.

He's about as rested and untraveled as a homeboy horse could be.

Preaching to the choir.

I don't think anyone is beating BJ right now. Exotics will be weak, but I like Melillo underneath.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 06, 2026, 09:41:08 PM
Mamba 148 flat  tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 06, 2026, 09:42:18 PM
Mamba 148 flat  tmbz1

And lose by 5  ngc3

Too bad BJ is doing a 147, 3 yo girls tonight have done 148's it's passe  ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 06, 2026, 10:17:51 PM
And lose by 5  ngc3

Too bad BJ is doing a 147, 3 yo girls tonight have done 148's it's passe  ngc3

What happened you fckin nitwit

Boom
3000 to win

I made him 3/1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 06, 2026, 10:22:02 PM
What happened you fckin nitwit

Boom
3000 to win

I made him 3/1

I congratulate you!  hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1

You think I had 10k on BJ, I didn't have 5 cents to win on anyone.

We all picked that super just in different order!

Go celebrate, good luck next week!  ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: firhill on June 06, 2026, 10:22:32 PM
Well, if anyone was gonna beat him, I'm glad it was James driving Odds On Mamba.

How old is Peter Wrenn?
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on June 06, 2026, 10:25:33 PM
Wrenn is either 63 or 64, but he had grey hair in his 30's.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: TimTimTimbo on June 06, 2026, 10:25:57 PM
Beau Jangles was he a little short. He's going to have to improve. If I had to pick the winner next week, I would take Brandon Blvd
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: SDST2009 on June 06, 2026, 10:28:41 PM
Yes, next week is setting up to be a real horserace. That little pony can motor.

I have to believe BJ has an excuse. He didn't really look himself the whole mile. Hopefully it's something they can remedy in a week and everyone compete at their best.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: getreal on June 06, 2026, 10:29:08 PM
Lots of OOMM haters still? That's a great USA horse, impressive, no excuses for BeauJangles, he got beat by a better horse tonight. I don't want to hear anything from the North.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 06, 2026, 10:30:15 PM
Lots of OOMM haters still? That's a great USA horse, impressive, no excuses for BeauJangles, he got beat by a better horse tonight. I don't want to hear anything from the North.
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: getreal on June 06, 2026, 10:30:25 PM
No shot mamba beats beau

OOMM pretty good eh?
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 06, 2026, 10:30:37 PM
Yes, next week is setting up to be a real horserace. That little pony can motor.

I have to believe BJ has an excuse. He didn't really look himself the whole mile. Hopefully it's something they can remedy in a week and everyone compete at their best.

Horse don't like the bobble head vibration anymore  ngc3

Lost his damn mind!  ngc3

Put Drury on BJ!  ngc3

That horse will know what time it is!  ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 06, 2026, 10:31:43 PM
OOMM pretty good eh?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on June 06, 2026, 10:32:53 PM
Yes, next week is setting up to be a real horserace. That little pony can motor.

I have to believe BJ has an excuse. He didn't really look himself the whole mile. Hopefully it's something they can remedy in a week and everyone compete at their best.
The answer is simple
He was going up against top competition for the first time this year and lost
Soon as he pulled and couldn't get clear, which is his signature move, he was toast
No excuses for BJ
These are 3 great horses that will probably take turns beating each other all year whenever they race against each other.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 06, 2026, 10:36:21 PM
The answer is simple
He was going up against top competition for the first time this year and lost
Soon as he pulled and couldn't get clear, which is his signature move, he was toast
No excuses for BJ
These are 3 great horses that will probably take turns beating each other all year whenever they race against each other.

He got bobbled  ngc3

Admit it  ngc3

All that negative energy running through that beautiful horse!

He's a clown, needs to be replaced, Bongiorno or Drury, horse might get spanked but not by a bobbling hesitating cheating turd  ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 06, 2026, 10:38:55 PM
He got bobbled  ngc3

Admit it  ngc3

All that negative energy running through that beautiful horse!

He's a clown, needs to be replaced, Bongiorno or Drury, horse might get spanked but not by a bobbling hesitating cheating turd  ngc3
[/quote

PLEASE LOSE WITH DIGNITY

AND GIVE MAMBA CREDIT

HORSE JUST ISNT THAT GOOD

TWO ARE BETTER BRANDON AND MAMBA
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on June 06, 2026, 10:39:18 PM
My vote is yes, but not for the NA Cup, somewhere else down the line.
NA Cup.. BJ has home field advantage and he has had a couple more starts this year.
My reasoning down the line somewhere...
Dexter vs the bobble head McClure
Who would you rather drive your horse?
Case closed ngc3
This quote of mine is pretty accurate
I said yes, which did just happen.
The Cup final hasn't happened. We will see next week.
I said Dexter vs Bobble..well Dexter just beat Bobble  ngc3
Add Macdonald to that list as who would you rather drive your horse
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: rainman2 on June 06, 2026, 10:39:56 PM
Beau Jangles was he a little short. He's going to have to improve. If I had to pick the winner next week, I would take Brandon Blvd

Beau jangles was the sacrifice being first over.  Brandon Blvd followed him and mamba followed both of them!  Actually the followers here followed the horses they wanted to follow!  The 1 horse threw a monkey wrench as he didn't let beau clear!  No excuse for Brandon blvd.  Perfect 2nd over trip and got beat by mamba in the 9 path at the wire!

I'll go with mamba!  He shouldn't be in the 9 path at any time!
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 06, 2026, 10:46:33 PM
STFU Loua Dipa won by 2 wrapped up a tick off these and she's a F'ing girl  ngc3


Shove OOMM up your ass, he's small enough it won't hurt  ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Foalin at 4 on June 06, 2026, 11:06:53 PM
Beau jangles was the sacrifice being first over.  Brandon Blvd followed him and mamba followed both of them!  Actually the followers here followed the horses they wanted to follow!  The 1 horse threw a monkey wrench as he didn't let beau clear!  No excuse for Brandon blvd.  Perfect 2nd over trip and got beat by mamba in the 9 path at the wire!

I'll go with mamba!  He shouldn't be in the 9 path at any time!

    9 path? He was heading to the windows to cash his ticket!
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 06, 2026, 11:09:12 PM
STFU Loua Dipa won by 2 wrapped up a tick off these and she's a F'ing girl  ngc3


Shove OOMM up your ass, he's small enough it won't hurt  ngc3

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT LOU DIPA ,,I DIDNT
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: rainman2 on June 06, 2026, 11:10:06 PM
    9 path? He was heading to the windows to cash his ticket!

Thank you for the fun and entertaining comment!

How much did he bet on himself as well as in exactas and trifectas?


Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 06, 2026, 11:10:30 PM
WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT LOU DIPA ,,I DIDNT

She's 3yo and faster than OOMM  ngc3

Was wrapped up tight yours was all out  ngc3
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Laag on June 06, 2026, 11:11:15 PM
Quite frankly I wasnt impressed with anybody at Woodbine tonight besides Mamba and Brandon


most impressive performance of the night and also of the season the fastest of the season was just turned in by Voukefalas at the Meadowlands from the 10 hole in 1:47.1 doing all the work with 53.3 front and back and half and digging in with grit in the stretch with a 26.2 kicker. Great to see this guy get over $1 million and i know people were writing him off as a ffa but he can definitely get his share...maybe the switch to Boyd over Stratton was the difference maker..even after last weeks goof by Boyd
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Laag on June 06, 2026, 11:13:10 PM
She's 3yo and faster than OOMM  ngc3

Was wrapped up tight yours was all out  ngc3


she will get beat by Be Perfect BG who hasnt even been asked for her best in all 9 starts
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: LUCPARK on June 06, 2026, 11:14:40 PM
She's 3yo and faster than OOMM  ngc3

Was wrapped up tight yours was all out  ngc3


U GOT ASS AND COCK ON YOUR MIND TOO MUCH 

LITTLE TIME OUT MIGHT MAKE YOUR MIND RIGHT ,,IF YOU  DONT  SATRT ACTIN LIKE A FCKIN HUMAN BEING AGAIN

AND THEN U MIGHT BE OUT LONG ENUFF FOR YOU NOT TO ABLE TO POST NEXT WEEK,,

LOSWE WITH FCKIN DIGNITY..

YOU WERE BRAGGING ALL WEEK   ABOUT THE FCKIN HORSE AND HE GOT FCKIN BEAT,,,THATS FINAL..

NAME CALLING AND STUPID SHIT ONLY GONNA GET YOU BANDED,,

TRY ME..

GOOD NIGHT ..PAULIE
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 06, 2026, 11:20:52 PM

U GOT ASS AND COCK ON YOUR MIND TOO MUCH 

LITTLE TIME OUT MIGHT MAKE YOUR MIND RIGHT ,,IF YOU  DONT  SATRT ACTIN LIKE A FCKIN HUMAN BEING AGAIN

AND THEN U MIGHT BE OUT LONG ENUFF FOR YOU NOT TO ABLE TO POST NEXT WEEK,,

LOSWE WITH FCKIN DIGNITY..

YOU WERE BRAGGING ALL WEEK   ABOUT THE FCKIN HORSE AND HE GOT FCKIN BEAT,,,THATS FINAL..

NAME CALLING AND STUPID SHIT ONLY GONNA GET YOU BANDED,,

TRY ME..

GOOD NIGHT ..PAULIE

Facts, the girls are better than these 3yo d!ck swinging chumps  ngc3

You're a sh!tty winner  ngc3

Can't just cash your $11,100 ticket ($8100 profit) and take a bow  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

F U Band me!  ngc3

I still owe you dinner though, a bets a bet!  tmbz1
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: JT on June 06, 2026, 11:21:44 PM
Going back through this thread there was alot of bad takes..to many to mention.
This year could turn into a  Riyadh, Life Sign and Presidential Ball type of year in 1993 if these 3 go against each other enough times.
Sit back and enjoy the ride ;D
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 06, 2026, 11:46:08 PM
Going back through this thread there was alot of bad takes..to many to mention.
This year could turn into a  Riyadh, Life Sign and Presidential Ball type of year in 1993 if these 3 go against each other enough times.
Sit back and enjoy the ride ;D

The needle is coming out on BJ  tmbz1

Who gives a sh!t about a streak, 15 / 16.

None of these fools care about an elim, as long as they're in.

And that f'ing announcer...."thank you for the streak"...f'ing Canada a horse wins you praise that horse not say sh!t about the loser.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: wizardofoz on June 07, 2026, 12:29:28 AM
Beau got 'jangles' looking head to head with another horse and no leisurely uncontested trip tonight. He is NO Niatross for sure and will lose more races this year against this calibre of horses, ESPECIALLY if he draws outside them. He won't go near a half mile track that is for sure and will NOT be a lock for the Meadowlands Pace any longer either, in fact might not even be the sole favorite next month. He showed his toughness is now in question if things do not go his way. His head was moving slightly to the right as well during the race.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 07, 2026, 04:35:38 AM
Beau Jangles looked off behind IMO
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: AgentQ on June 07, 2026, 09:55:43 AM
Beau Jangles looked off behind IMO

I always get a chuckle from guys who couldn't make a face like a horse. I agree with you Mike, something was not right and bobby knew it the moment he pulled him. I thought bobby drove him unbelievably well to get him sorted and into the final where I suspect he will be much better. Kudos to the horse that won as he stepped up and looked real good. I still think james pciks the legacy horse and trips out and wins the final if Beau can't be fixed in a week. If he can Bobby will quarter pole and win with james coming hard at the end.
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Racetime on June 07, 2026, 10:26:17 AM
I'm going to say yes...lol
Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Sweet on June 07, 2026, 11:05:45 AM
I'm going to say yes...lol

Nice try  tmbz1

Going to let you cash in on that one  ngc3

After all it's NA harness racing  ngc3

The only way to declare BJ the winner is in a laboratory if OOMM and BB came up positive  ngc3

Stay tuned, Canadian scientists are rushing there now!  ;D

Title: Re: can MAMBA defeat JANGLES?
Post by: Checked Up on June 07, 2026, 03:55:46 PM
Mamba was definitely the better horse yesterday, but in the winners circle interview another mention of the "locked on the left line " was heard by all! This comment was followed by a  hope that the Wrenns would be able to get to the bottom of it. This leaves me to wonder if they know exactly what the problem is and are going as far as possible with their fingers crossed 🤞 Time will tell I recon!!
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