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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 24, 2026, 10:42:15 AM
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Miracle maven ends up 1 to 5 last night .
2 to 1 morning line against very string field
4 to 5 going to the gate is OK, almost even money but then as the gate springs 1 to 5.
Against 80% less return then the low price to begin with
No modern gambler is going to tolerate this stuff .
You want to save the sport?
We thought we needed to push horse ownership. We dont.
People will always buy racehorses. Prices for racehorses are through the roof.
The sport needs gamblers.
No big money gamblers will tolerate 80% reductions in payoffs..
It was one thing when this had been going on at b tracks but when its routinely happening Saturday night at meadowlands its a screaming issue
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SO TRUE
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The sport needs gamblers.
if this sport needed gamblers to survive it would have been
gone 25 years ago.. doesnt matter if there is 20,000 or 200,000 handle
for any race.. the only way this sport survives is on the welfare of casinos.
thats it..anything else is just noise
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2 things can be true at once
Fixed odds is needed, but won't happen
The gamblers always get shit on.. CAW 's suck, killing small time players
Back in the day, gamblers were needed..not so much anymore
All slot welfare
Ohio was dead in the water until the racinos came
$1600 purses throughout the week at Scioto.
Place was a ghost town.
All these topics have been discussed at nauseum
Nothing changes ;D
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2 things can be true at once
Fixed odds is needed, but won't happen
The gamblers always get shit on.. CAW 's suck, killing small time players
Back in the day, gamblers were needed..not so much anymore
All slot welfare
Ohio was dead in the water until the racinos came
$1600 purses throughout the week at Scioto.
Place was a ghost town.
All these topics have been discussed at nauseum
Nothing changes ;D
Unfortunately the slot welfare wont last. It was mandatory that casinos needed to give a percentage back to racing before. Now casinos can open without racing.
The welfare about to end. We need to bring the gambler back.
Caw at least produces handle so there is no way to get rid of that
But no one is betting real momey without having any idea of the return, which drops as much as 80%, even at the last moment.
It was one thing if a horse steadily drops odds. But the sudden 80% changes will break this business more than ANY other issue it has
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No big money handicapper is ever betting a 4/5 to win looking for ROI. Only degenerates
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Miracle maven ends up 1 to 5 last night .
2 to 1 morning line against very string field
4 to 5 going to the gate is OK, almost even money but then as the gate springs 1 to 5.
Against 80% less return then the low price to begin with
No modern gambler is going to tolerate this stuff .
You want to save the sport?
We thought we needed to push horse ownership. We dont.
People will always buy racehorses. Prices for racehorses are through the roof.
The sport needs gamblers.
No big money gamblers will tolerate 80% reductions in payoffs..
It was one thing when this had been going on at b tracks but when its routinely happening Saturday night at meadowlands its a screaming issue
This has been happening for 35+ years. NOTHING NEW!! ngc3 ngc3
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In the pre-simulcast era when handle was all on track it didn't happen.
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No big money handicapper is ever betting a 4/5 to win looking for ROI. Only degenerates
You couldn't be more wrong. Betting public loves throwing momey on 4 to 5. Ask sports gamblers who lay -110
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In the pre-simulcast era when handle was all on track it didn't happen.
Thank yoi for shutting down the its always been this way morons. It hasnt
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Thank yoi for shutting down the its always been this way morons. It hasnt
Is your action sharp?
If so, what exactly would you do if everything switched to fixed odds? How many beard accounts could you possibly have at your disposal....and that's a major pain the ass.
There is 0% chance any track will allow sharp money.
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Is your action sharp?
If so, what exactly would you do if everything switched to fixed odds? How many beard accounts could you possibly have at your disposal....and that's a major pain the ass.
There is 0% chance any track will allow sharp money.
No such thing as sharp momey thats a myth to make gamblers think they have a chance. Amd of course if a track is taking too much money at the stated odds they are welcome to lower them, especially if they think the person betting might be onto something. They could actually use ot to their advantage like the books have been for years. You guys make it sound like its impossible rocket science. It isnt
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No such thing as sharp momey thats a myth to make gamblers think they have a chance. Amd of course if a track is taking too much money at the stated odds they are welcome to lower them, especially if they think the person betting might be onto something. They could actually use ot to their advantage like the books have been for years. You guys make it sound like its impossible rocket science. It isnt
This has been happening for 35+ years. NOTHING NEW!! ngc3 ngc3
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This has been happening for 35+ years. NOTHING NEW!! ngc3 ngc3
I knew a moron like you just had to chime in.
Kill yourself
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Is your action sharp?
If so, what exactly would you do if everything switched to fixed odds? How many beard accounts could you possibly have at your disposal....and that's a major pain the ass.
There is 0% chance any track will allow sharp money.
Just to clarify fixed odds csn change, the track can adjust them as needed. but the bettor is locked in at whatever odds it was when they bet, just like every other form of gambling. Keep the exotics parimutual but win odds need to be fixed
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No such thing as sharp momey thats a myth to make gamblers think they have a chance. Amd of course if a track is taking too much money at the stated odds they are welcome to lower them, especially if they think the person betting might be onto something. They could actually use ot to their advantage like the books have been for years. You guys make it sound like its impossible rocket science. It isnt
It is impossible. Tracks will never carry wagering risk.
Parimutuel is the best form of gambling ever.
The problem with it is that CAW is allowed
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It is impossible. Tracks will never carry wagering risk.
Parimutuel is the best form of gambling ever.
The problem with it is that CAW is allowed
Everything in life is risk
Trackside are in a risky business. They can take some risk
If they play their cards right they csn make a fortune doing it.
Bettors are notoriously wrong. Take your smart money and stick it up your ass lol
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Everything in life is risk
Trackside are in a risky business. They can take some risk
If they play their cards right they csn make a fortune doing it.
Bettors are notoriously wrong. Take your smart money and stick it up your ass lol
In my experience, people who cant win like to think that nobody can
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In my experience, people who cant win like to think that nobody can
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