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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on May 20, 2026, 09:37:18 PM
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PLS POST GOOD POINTS IF ANY IN OWNING
AND THERE MANY BAD POINTS,,
MY COMMENTS WILL FOLLOW LATER
PLS POST PLOPPERS tmbz1
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Even though it's a correctly used term, it feels so unnatural "owning" another creature like they're property even though they are.
I'd love to have the sire and dam, and have a family if they could.
Maybe they'd even race only if they were 100% healthy and above their peer competition so they wouldn't have to be pushed.
Sad with all the horses that need a good home and are retired - they didn't, can no longer perform, then treated poorly, and have a bad or no future.
I appreciate that your horses always landed in a good home, racing, not racing, or stayed with you.
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PLS POST GOOD POINTS IF ANY IN OWNING
AND THERE MANY BAD POINTS,,
MY COMMENTS WILL FOLLOW LATER
PLS POST PLOPPERS tmbz1
When I first got my horses at Pompano, my two partners and myself were so excited. Going to the barn to watch them train in the early morning. Breakfast at the track kitchen. Chatting with trainers and drivers at the qualifiers was so much fun. We soon realized that owning four cheap claimers was the wrong thing to do. But despite us losing money, I wouldn't give up the experience of owning horses. I just tell people now who want to "jump in the game" to have enough money for at least 6 months of bills. And to have a good relationship with the trainer, groom, vet, and farrier. Don't be afraid to ask questions. And don't be a schmuck either. Most "investors" lose money on this venture. But despite that fact, you can still have a great time enjoying owning horses.
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Very hard to be a new owner wanting to get into the game. It almost forces you to seek out and hire a chemical trainer to make bills and a few bucks. Real horseman trainers are facing a uphill battle to just get the owner even unless you have one with unlimited funds..
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PRO:
Presumably, we're talking about the 70'd thru 90's when a friday night crowd drew 15-20000 which created a buzz of excitement under the lights as soon as you walked in.
And if you were a railbird and saw the drivers silks under the lights and were able to absorb the wafting "aroma", you may have gotten the bug..
and if you lurked around the winners circle wondering what the "thrill of victory" feels like, you got the bug...
And if you were an excitement junkie and/ or a gambler, it doesnt matter if its a 5 claimerf or a 50k claimer, nothing beats the thrill of winning and cashing on your own horse...
Being around the backstretch and making friends and acquaintances of some hardwoirking people who love the animals...that rubs off...Bringing kids and friends to feed the horses down the shedrow...and developing a relationship with your horse..
next thing you purchase a baby (horse, that is, I'm no trafficker) and watch her clear each hurdle on the way to making her race track debut--what could be better than a win?
But for me, it was the ability to actually participate at whatever level- walking him, up to jogging him or even participating in an amateur or exhibition race.
Thats my pros--done typing...
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Great topic Rocco.. good luck at Hoosier this year by the way. tmbz1
I've posted this on here before, but what got me into harness racing the most, even more then growing up in Delaware,and even though our high school is nicknamed the pacers ngc3..was my grandparents and parents. They were small time owners when I was just a little JT. I think the most they owned at one time was about 10. Some of my best memories as a kid were riding in my grandparents old El Camino and traveling the state of Ohio to watch their horses race. All the kids wanted to ride rides, I wanted to be in the barns and grandstand. The look on my Grandfather's face when one of his horses won was priceless. Going out to the farm to watch them train. Also my parents calling me in sick to school during LBJ week ngc3
So to answer your question, the best part of owning is the memories that are made with family and friends ;D
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Purses are very good at many tracks. But an owner's fear of paying $5000 to $6000 training bills is real. We'll never know the true #'s. But there are more horses on deals at many of the tracks than people would imagine.
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To buy I believe that 1st and foremost is "Love for the game " ! A reason not to buy is"To make money ". I also think that it's very important to know someone who is already successful in the sport THAT IS HONEST to answers your questions and bounce ideas off of!
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To buy I believe that 1st and foremost is "Love for the game " ! A reason not to buy is"To make money ". I also think that it's very important to know someone who is already successful in the sport THAT IS HONEST to answers your questions and bounce ideas off of!
Very true assessment!
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To buy I believe that 1st and foremost is "Love for the game " ! A reason not to buy is"To make money ". I also think that it's very important to know someone who is already successful in the sport THAT IS HONEST to answers your questions and bounce ideas off of!
100% correct! tmbz1 tmbz1
My first experience was in 2004!
I talked my girlfriend at the tine(RIP) into going into partnership on a $ 4000 claimers. I told her it was a losing proposition, but she went through with it knowing the results ahead of time. She enjoyed the experience as she knew very little about harness racing. Our first trainer had the time for us to answer questions and get insight. It also wasn’t a business deal. We went to dinner occasionally as well as other events. We also bred a horse before she passed away. My current trainer took and broke him sight unseen and not even meeting me. The best experience of my life. I got to learn more as I got better horses to own. He also takes time to answer back as to how the horses are doing as well as questions in the past of harness racing including his experiences. I also got to hitch a few rides on race day with him to watch the horses I owned a part of race. How many trainers would do this!
I’m having the best experience my life now. I get a chance to meet the other partners in the stable. It’s more of an extended family where everyone roots everyone else on as we all have different partners on different horses. No animosity at all.
Find the right trainer and you can have fun! As my trainer says-as long as you don’t get hurt financially, it’s a good thing.
If anyone has questions, please feel free to PM me here.
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To buy I believe that 1st and foremost is "Love for the game " ! A reason not to buy is"To make money ". I also think that it's very important to know someone who is already successful in the sport THAT IS HONEST to answers your questions and bounce ideas off of!
possible possible possible tmbz1
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Two things are most important. You got to have a love of the sport and you got enjoy to be around horses. You got to understand from the getgo you probably will lose money. The odds are totally stacked against you. From the high vet and training bills to the intense competition especially from the mega stables your chances of filling your pockets are very slim. So your pockets better start off very deep if you are going to buy your own. The downside is as the great Berstein said you can't fall in love with your horses. You will most likely lose some illness and injuries. Odds are most will become claimers and noncompetitive at some point. If you care about your horses it will be your responsibily to find them a good life after their racing days are over. It an enjoyable but tough business to be in.
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Reasons to buy are annoying the trainer so much, you get thrown out of their barn. Some people have a knack for that, but I won’t mention who.
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Reasons to buy are annoying the trainer so much, you get thrown out of their barn. Some people have a knack for that, but I won’t mention who.
RW ASK ME TO LEAVE ,,I DID I WAS A PAIN IN THE ASS VERY IMMATURE AS AN OWNER HE WAS RIGHT I WAS WRONG,, BACK 14 YRS AGO,,,
OTHER THAN THAT I STILL TALK AND NO ISSUES WITH MY OTHER TRAINERS OR EX TRAINERS..
SEE UNLIKE THE PEPOLE LIKE YOUR SELF AND ALOT OF OTHER PEOPLE ,, I CAN BE HARD ON MYSELF WHEN I ERROR,,,
AN I SAID THIS ON MIKES PODCAST A MONTH AGO
NEXT TIME DONT BE SHY SAY MY NAME IF YOU GOT SHIT TO SAY ..
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THE BEST PART OF OWNING AND BUYING HORSES MAINLY BABIES FOR ME I DONT DO OVENIGHTS FOR THE MOST PART
IS THE ANICIPATION OF QUILIERS IN JUNE OR JULY,,,,DREAMING OF THAT KILLER ,DREAMING OF THAT SIRES CHAMPION,,,
WORST PART OF OWNING A BABY IS BEING LEAD TO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE SPECIAL YOU HAVE A SPECIAL HORSE FOR 7 MONTHS OF TRAING DOWN
THEN COME JUNE OR JULY ,,,YOU GET CRICKETS AND EXCUSES
AND ITS NOT MY TRAINERS ITS 99 PERCENT OF TRAINERS THEY LEAD FALSEHOODS AND PROMISES LIKE SHEEP TO A KILL PEN,,
FALSE HOPE FALSE BELIEFS ,,GOTTA KEEP THAT DREAM ALIVE ,,GOTTA KEEP THAT DREAM ALIVE FROM NOV TILL JUNE OR JULY
WHENTHE DREAM FIZZLES,,YOUR IN THE HOLE 50 OR 60 GRAND IN TRAING BILLS FOR LAST 9 MONTHS ...
I TRULY HATE OWNING HORSES TRULY DO ,,BUT IM A FCKIN NITWIT AND SHEEP AND ALWAYS GO BACK,,
THESE ARE MY HONEST VIEWS
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99 PERCENT OF TRAINERS THEY LEAD FALSEHOODS AND PROMISES LIKE SHEEP TO A KILL PEN
Sums it up pretty good. There is a certain type of human that is susceptible to the average sales pitch of a trainer, and they salivate when they find one.
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99 PERCENT OF TRAINERS THEY LEAD FALSEHOODS AND PROMISES LIKE SHEEP TO A KILL PEN
Sums it up pretty good. There is a certain type of human that is susceptible to the average sales pitch of a trainer, and they salivate when they find one.
Oh list all the times you were F'd over ngc3
We'll all wait ngc3
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Not a single time. That is because I decided the money was made in bonus/rebate/discount, as well as off-shores that did not co-mingle. Now if you want stories about those, I'd have to have an idea of who you are, but I imagine I could tell a few.
I fell in love with the game, that's for sure. But it was obvious to me that there were few people in it that I could, or would, trust. I'll add one more to my list!
Just my opinion, based on my life.
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Not a single time. That is because I decided the money was made in bonus/rebate/discount, as well as off-shores that did not co-mingle. Now if you want stories about those, I'd have to have an idea of who you are, but I imagine I could tell a few.
I fell in love with the game, that's for sure. But it was obvious to me that there were few people in it that I could, or would, trust. I'll add one more to my list!
Just my opinion, based on my life.
Sounds like you're out of the game, but still enjoy being around it.
If that''s the case, and you were doing well, I'd have to wonder if the game was getting impossible to beat for someone like yourself who claims to have taken a virtually flawless approach.
Is that the case?
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It took about 10 years for me to discover you could get something back on every bet. I call that my "tuition" phase. After paying that for a decade, I spent the next 3 decades riding that education.
The past few years I have cut way back. My handle is down to about 20% of what it was, and that is sometimes forced.
When TRN (not RTN, but its precursor) debuted, I was in heaven. I was not tied to the track anymore. That led me to discover a sequence of ADWs and other options that turned it completely around for me.
I don't need to be as hungry any more, but it will always be on at some point, every day. My nuclear family is all gone, so that makes this the longest mainstay in my life. I met my wife after I met harness racing.
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I got so much kitty 20 years ago telling girls I owned horses taking them to balmoral letting them pet and feed the horse a carrot late nights at the barn
Good old days
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It took about 10 years for me to discover you could get something back on every bet. I call that my "tuition" phase. After paying that for a decade, I spent the next 3 decades riding that education.
The past few years I have cut way back. My handle is down to about 20% of what it was, and that is sometimes forced.
When TRN (not RTN, but its precursor) debuted, I was in heaven. I was not tied to the track anymore. That led me to discover a sequence of ADWs and other options that turned it completely around for me.
I don't need to be as hungry any more, but it will always be on at some point, every day. My nuclear family is all gone, so that makes this the longest mainstay in my life. I met my wife after I met harness racing.
Makes sense you met her after harness racing, took that long to find a woman with 200 IQ to put up with your 300 ngc3
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I was 17 1/2 when I met harness racing. I was almost 19 when I met my wife.
She has certainly put up with me. I thank her often.
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I was 17 1/2 when I met harness racing. I was almost 19 when I met my wife.
She has certainly put up with me. I thank her often.
That's great, and actually very impressive that longevity and appreciation.
Women as I found it will tolerate a lot, but not neglect.
I haven't found my perfect woman - a deaf, dumb, blind beauty who is an orphan with no children ngc3
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I got so much kitty 20 years ago telling girls I owned horses taking them to balmoral letting them pet and feed the horse a carrot late nights at the barn
Good old days
Stop lying you hung with me half the time at balmoral
And I wasn’t give you no ass ;D
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20 years ago you could own trotters and have some success. Those days are long gone. The cheats are everywhere in all classes.
Reason to buy is for the fun and the money doesn't matter.
Reason not to buy are the big stables. They make it tough on the small guy.
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Many tracks have left me, or cut way back on their race days/race numbers.
Luckily, my wife has left me...yet!
ngc3