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Title: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: arniesarmy on May 14, 2026, 10:56:02 PM
You see that every now and then at other tracks but every race at Scioto there is at least one horse in the infield grass.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: rainman2 on May 14, 2026, 11:02:27 PM
You see that every now and then at other tracks but every race at Scioto there is at least one horse in the infield grass.

Scioto has always been a very [hard] fast track!

Easier on the feet??
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: arniesarmy on May 14, 2026, 11:51:37 PM
Widger seems to do it a lot. Of course, he ran a 1-9 shot out of the money, so there's that.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: Kole Hanover on May 15, 2026, 12:31:13 AM

 Alot of horses love going on the grass prior to racing, it seems to help their feet & if they enjoy it & race well after- I'd do it every time.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: Checked Up on May 15, 2026, 01:57:23 PM
The infield is also the closest to a level surface inside the ropes! I feel that the soft level surface is a good way to alleviate the skeletol stress caused by going slow on the banking variations.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: JT on May 15, 2026, 03:57:58 PM
The infield used to have ponds in it if memory serves
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: Kole Hanover on May 15, 2026, 04:00:58 PM
The infield used to have ponds in it if memory serves

 There's been some bad accidents involving ponds in the center field.

 Horses can swim well but when weighed down with bike/equip- it can be devastating.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: SDST2009 on May 15, 2026, 07:08:08 PM
It's also advantageous for a horse that gets worked up before the race. Calms them, probably just being off the actual track.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: JT on May 15, 2026, 08:32:57 PM
The infield used to have ponds in it if memory serves
So I looked it up, I remembered correctly
Not to many fermented hops, bong resin and paint fumes ngc3
A horse fell into it a handful of years ago
Horse and driver OK
Back to the original question.. my 2 cents, easier on the hooves pre race
It gets hot in the summer, grass nice and cool
Rainman2 correct very fast track since they redid it, some even said not quite a mile
It was fast even back in the day
Agree with SDST2009 as well.. always good takes tmbz1
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: SDST2009 on May 15, 2026, 08:56:14 PM
There's been some bad accidents involving ponds in the center field.

 Horses can swim well but when weighed down with bike/equip- it can be devastating.


 I recall a couple cases like this in (fairly) recent memory.

I think one of them did end up passing away - not sure if it was still in the lake or thereafter.

Virgil the model husband had a young trotter end up in the lake at Northfield maybe..5-8 years ago that was retrieved and went on to race thereafter.

As you say, left to their own devices a horse will do fine in the water, but while harnessed and hooked, it is a bad scene.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: SDST2009 on May 15, 2026, 08:59:24 PM
So I looked it up, I remembered correctly
Not to many fermented hops, bong resin and paint fumes ngc3
A horse fell into it a handful of years ago
Horse and driver OK
Back to the original question.. my 2 cents, easier on the hooves pre race
It gets hot in the summer, grass nice and cool
Rainman2 correct very fast track since they redid it, some even said not quite a mile
It was fast even back in the day
Agree with SDST2009 as well.. always good takes tmbz1

Hey thanks, JT tmbz1
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: Bitter Truth on May 15, 2026, 09:28:21 PM
Whoa!! fillies and mares MID level . 26.0  53.1   120.0  1.47.3 and its cool out here [low 60's]
What I do think was cool was the two top horses were driven by one each of two sets of brothers.
Trevor Smith [brother Tyler] + Austin Hanners [brother Luke] All four solid fairly reliable drivers. tmbz1
Followed Tyler all his life. He was a young Phenom. Even announcing on a number of occasions. Saw
him become the youngest driver to break 2 minutes as a driver. I believe he was 12.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: John Moody on May 15, 2026, 09:49:35 PM
It's because the grass on the hooves makes the drug tests negative
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: Sweet on May 15, 2026, 09:51:20 PM
It's because the grass on the hooves makes the drug tests negative

 ngc3 More comedy relief, what ya know  ngc3
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: JT on May 15, 2026, 10:17:10 PM
Hey thanks, JT tmbz1
No need to thank me, you got good takes, some people on here do most don't
I won't name names  ngc3
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: JT on May 15, 2026, 10:30:52 PM
Whoa!! fillies and mares MID level . 26.0  53.1   120.0  1.47.3 and its cool out here [low 60's]
What I do think was cool was the two top horses were driven by one each of two sets of brothers.
Trevor Smith [brother Tyler] + Austin Hanners [brother Luke] All four solid fairly reliable drivers. tmbz1
Followed Tyler all his life. He was a young Phenom. Even announcing on a number of occasions. Saw
him become the youngest driver to break 2 minutes as a driver. I believe he was 12.
I remember hearing about that..
Race 6 both Smith brothers 1st and 2nd  Hanners brothers 3rd and 4th ;D
I've always liked Tyler... always tries with a horse

Back in my going to the track multiple days a week days , I always liked the Hanners boys Dad.. Brad.. he was good at getting one to leave at the start.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: Bitter Truth on May 19, 2026, 01:08:20 PM
I see Jeremy Smith is back in action today MAJOR FACTOR. As good as any, especially on the engine. tmbz1
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: rainman2 on May 19, 2026, 04:51:58 PM
I remember hearing about that..
Race 6 both Smith brothers 1st and 2nd  Hanners brothers 3rd and 4th ;D
I've always liked Tyler... always tries with a horse

Back in my going to the track multiple days a week days , I always liked the Hanners boys Dad.. Brad.. he was good at getting one to leave at the start.

Was fun watching Brad at pompano years ago. Wasn’t afraid to leave but got hung a few times too!
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: Kole Hanover on May 19, 2026, 07:51:29 PM

 I recall a couple cases like this in (fairly) recent memory.

I think one of them did end up passing away - not sure if it was still in the lake or thereafter.

Virgil the model husband had a young trotter end up in the lake at Northfield maybe..5-8 years ago that was retrieved and went on to race thereafter.

As you say, left to their own devices a horse will do fine in the water, but while harnessed and hooked, it is a bad scene.

 Yeah, it's sad. I remember watching live & im pretty sure I remember a horse went over the rail & into the deep part of the centerfield pond & drowned.
 Horse bad the bike attached & all the gear weighing him down, no chance.

 If there is a pond, it should be no more than 3 feet deep.

 I've also seen a horse get loose, do 5 laps on the half mile track with gear/bike attached, run down into the paddock, run out the entrance and right up the road, turned right and up another road and ended up getting stopped about a half mile away near a pharmacy.
 Lucky it wasn't injured at all, scratched that day obv but raced a week later.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: Bitter Truth on May 19, 2026, 08:10:49 PM
Watching some Running Aces. They may be cheap but you can at least read and tell the
numbers and colors on the saddle cloths, unlike Scioto's , where they are the worst I've seen.
Title: Re: why do so many horses warm up on the grass at Scioto Downs?
Post by: G on May 20, 2026, 09:36:29 AM
The grass is good for their feet especially if their feet are sore. It's also a natural shock absorber.
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