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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: PurpleSheetPicks on April 26, 2026, 02:22:14 PM
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Never in my life have I seen such a bad drive. This guy needs his license to drive in races taken immediately.
Shenandoah race 4 Sunday.
Rail is 6 to 5, he is 8 to 1 from 2 hole
Gate springs, nobody leaves looks like they will get away number order
So the 2 decides he is going to push the 1 a little to get him a little tired before taking the perfect pocket trip right?
So he pushes the 1, then keeps pushing .mind you the pocket can fit 5 horses on it. But he decides to get parked to the half in 57 before fading through the field.
I like virginia and think they are doing a good job for the future of racing, but I wint bet another race there if I dont see him fined or suspended.
Quite possibly the worst drive ive ever seen. And that's saying alot
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Worse than Ceba?
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Can't be. I thought I was the worst. But hes going for the title.
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Worse than Ceba?
Ceba certainly pulls at some wild times and drives on when he shouldn't, but ceba pr even Stevie Wonder could have seen this pocket and known the pocket to the favorite would be a better option than getting parked to the half in 57.
I looked in the pps to see if the horse "needed" the front, or was a run away, but horse hadn't been on rhe front its last 7.
Just inexcusable
I see he is a p driver. Time to take the p back
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The "sport" of harness racing has attracted a very suspect talent pool for decades, and is shrinking due to the anonymity of harness racing in general. Just like a high school team from a strong area could crush any WNBA team, even spotting them points, so could an average person hop in the bike and be competent relative to what is out there now. It is far more dangerous to allow these mental midgets with some experience to drive as opposed to allowing a better stock to drive with less experience. Ask anyone actuary or person deep in the insurance game and they will quickly tell you the correlation between good grades and safety.
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The "sport" of harness racing has attracted a very suspect talent pool for decades, and is shrinking due to the anonymity of harness racing in general. Just like a high school team from a strong area could crush any WNBA team, even spotting them points, so could an average person hop in the bike and be competent relative to what is out there now. It is far more dangerous to allow these mental midgets with some experience to drive as opposed to allowing a better stock to drive with less experience. Ask anyone actuary or person deep in the insurance game and they will quickly tell you the correlation between good grades and safety.
This is the best take of anything ive read on here for years. Ty
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The "sport" of harness racing has attracted a very suspect talent pool for decades, and is shrinking due to the anonymity of harness racing in general. Just like a high school team from a strong area could crush any WNBA team, even spotting them points, so could an average person hop in the bike and be competent relative to what is out there now. It is far more dangerous to allow these mental midgets with some experience to drive as opposed to allowing a better stock to drive with less experience. Ask anyone actuary or person deep in the insurance game and they will quickly tell you the correlation between good grades and safety.
Reminds me of the team managers I used to get for my football teams.
If you can play any sport you do. Or you play an instrument. Or you are in drama club. Or you get a job..Or the ors go on...unless its a girl that just wants to be close to the players, the talent pool for high school managers is low to very low lol.
I remember getting mad for them not filling the water right, or letting the water run out without refilling it (their only task), then I remembered the talent pool i was working with lol
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If you think that drive was bad. Go watch race 8 at Northfield. Tyler Angus on a Jessica Millner EPO enhanced race horse. He somehow gets parked the mile at 3/5. The guy is just a complete failure as a driver.
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If you think that drive was bad. Go watch race 8 at Northfield. Tyler Angus on a Jessica Millner EPO enhanced race horse. He somehow gets parked the mile at 3/5. The guy is just a complete failure as a driver.
Ill watch. But the odds of me seeing a worse drive the same night after watching races 30 years is low to extremely low
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If you think that drive was bad. Go watch race 8 at Northfield. Tyler Angus on a Jessica Millner EPO enhanced race horse. He somehow gets parked the mile at 3/5. The guy is just a complete failure as a driver.
OK I watched
It took 2 seconds to see you are not understanding
Getting parked when 6 horses leave for the front and there aren't any holes os not the same as getting parked from the 2 hole when only the rail gorse leaves, and by doing so does you a huge favor giving you 5 lengths to drop in the pocket, but chosing not to at 8 to 1.
Your guy had bad racing luck.
Dailey literally had a gift trip handed to him but instead chose to get parked to half and finish up track. If he took pocket 99.999 percent chance he is first or second
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Just watch Joe Bongiorno for a week! Not sure if it is IQ, temper or a combination of both, but he will give that same kind of drive. Did it this past weekend where he pushed and pushed the lead horse with a hole behind him 5 lengths long. Schmucks!
I had a lot of drivers for the (mostly) good trotters I owned through the 70's, 80's and early 90's, and some gave poor drives, but none as bad as I see weekly from some of the Meadowlands colony today. There were some who were especially mated to certain trotters I owned, including Sonny Patterson Jr. (may he rest in peace), Mickey McNichol, and others who were good on most of the horses they sat behind (JC, great initials for a great driver), Benny Webster (although not the best on a "delicate" trotter), Ron Waples and Walter Case. Herve was much better on pacers.
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Just watch Joe Bongiorno for a week! Not sure if it is IQ, temper or a combination of both, but he will give that same kind of drive. Did it this past weekend where he pushed and pushed the lead horse with a hole behind him 5 lengths long. Schmucks!
I had a lot of drivers for the (mostly) good trotters I owned through the 70's, 80's and early 90's, and some gave poor drives, but none as bad as I see weekly from some of the Meadowlands colony today. There were some who were especially mated to certain trotters I owned, including Sonny Patterson Jr. (may he rest in peace), Mickey McNichol, and others who were good on most of the horses they sat behind (JC, great initials for a great driver), Benny Webster (although not the best on a "delicate" trotter), Ron Waples and Walter Case. Herve was much better on pacers.
I know him at kakaley have been going at it, but the 1 time i saw him overdrive he was like 9 to 5.
Huge difference between trying to make a quarter pole move from third at 2 to 1 and not taking a pocket trip to get parked at 8 to 1.
Anyone who makes a comparison of an equally bad drive I assure you didnt watch the daily replay
If you watch it with your own eyes youll agree
My words door even do it just just how bad it was
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In almost 50 years of watching the races, I can count thousands of brutal drives. The one that does stick out was at Hoosier Park years ago. The trainer, Herb Brown, also drove this monster named Suburbanite. Herb had him locked in, strangling the poor guy. The two horses ahead of him parted a little bit, and Herb drove Suburbanite up in between, ramming both bikes. The sad thing is he did this again. I couldn't believe what i was watching. A couple of weeks later, he put up Doc Holliday, and set the track record, I believe.
Sincerely, Silent One
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At one time Suburbanite used to run in the feature race at The Meadows, not sure if Herb Brown drove him there or not.
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The obvious ones like Ceba and this idiot mentioned in the title are not really the problem. The problem are the ones that drive in 80% of a cards races and continually make the wrong decisions, with improvement never coming.
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In almost 50 years of watching the races, I can count thousands of brutal drives. The one that does stick out was at Hoosier Park years ago. The trainer, Herb Brown, also drove this monster named Suburbanite. Herb had him locked in, strangling the poor guy. The two horses ahead of him parted a little bit, and Herb drove Suburbanite up in between, ramming both bikes. The sad thing is he did this again. I couldn't believe what i was watching. A couple of weeks later, he put up Doc Holliday, and set the track record, I believe.
Sincerely, Silent One
Getting stuck in is bad luck. Getting parked when the 2 hole is there is a choice
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The obvious ones like Ceba and this idiot mentioned in the title are not really the problem. The problem are the ones that drive in 80% of a cards races and continually make the wrong decisions, with improvement never coming.
All it takes is 1 bad drive for one gambler with 1 bet to lose him for life
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If you think that drive was bad. Go watch race 8 at Northfield. Tyler Angus on a Jessica Millner EPO enhanced race horse. He somehow gets parked the mile at 3/5. The guy is just a complete failure as a driver.
You just realized that now??? No talent hack from day one! The only difference is now he's a seasoned hack!!
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If you think that drive was bad. Go watch race 8 at Northfield. Tyler Angus on a Jessica Millner EPO enhanced race horse. He somehow gets parked the mile at 3/5. The guy is just a complete failure as a driver.
A month or two ago, Angus had the 9 horse. He ducked into the 2 hole at the top of the stretch and wouldn't let the 2 in. They had to have a recall. How dumb to you have to be knowing you are the 9 and then being on gait at Northfield.
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Pretty much on a daily basis at every track there are dozens of "moves" that baffle anyone with sense. I wish more announcers were like Jack Gallagher. I love it when he mixes in the "not sure why he pulled" type comments in the call of the race. "For some reason he's off the rail" type always are so nice to hear.
In fact, I sat with a few B level drivers years ago, and while they were watching the races with me they were suggesting what a driver should so, and they were SO wrong most of the time. These are not bright men.
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Pretty much on a daily basis at every track there are dozens of "moves" that baffle anyone with sense. I wish more announcers were like Jack Gallagher. I love it when he mixes in the "not sure why he pulled" type comments in the call of the race. "For some reason he's off the rail" type always are so nice to hear.
In fact, I sat with a few B level drivers years ago, and while they were watching the races with me they were suggesting what a driver should so, and they were SO wrong most of the time. These are not bright men.
Yeah hes funny pointing it out. But dover is much more competitive fields with more horses that makes you have to think fast sometimes into a mistake.
This guy made a mistake clearly trying to go around the rail fav from the 2 hole, had 10 to 15 seconds to slide into gigantic pocket....didnt
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Gallagher bets, so he doesn't like bad drivers getting in his horse's way because of an incompetent driver.
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Watch the 2nd race at Vernon from this past Saturday, 4/25. I don’t know what’s worse, Leon Bailey losing a 1/9 shot at the top of the stretch up by a dozen or Joe Nassimos not seeing the favorite off stride the length of the stretch and crashing into the back of the horse causing an accident.
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Ceba won from the 8 hole tonight at harrington
Dailey could drive in a million races from 8 hole and not hit board in any. He proved he can't handle 1 horse inside him, let alone 7