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Title: How much is it worth
Post by: London on April 24, 2026, 12:48:54 PM
To pay the race secretary to draw the inside...
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on April 24, 2026, 01:39:11 PM
To pay the race secretary to draw the inside...
How much is it worth for you to stop posting?
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: dougie on April 24, 2026, 01:41:59 PM
How much is it worth for you to stop posting?
Good answer. It's kinda funny for me. When we went to the post draw at Pompano, we always drew the outside. When we didn't go, we drew the inside. LOL!
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: Stan durbread on April 25, 2026, 08:53:58 AM
Please explain how you think a race secretary can fix a computerized draw.
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on April 25, 2026, 09:13:54 AM
Am I wrong saying it's the judges who conduct the draws? Whether pills or computer.
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on April 25, 2026, 09:45:55 AM
I haven't been to a draw for a long time, but back when Brandywine Raceway was still open I witnessed several draws where they put the pills in the bottle and the entrees in a box and a horseman would help conduct the draw by pulling the pills while another person pulled an entree. I'm assuming the person pulling the entrees was a racing official. 
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: Kirby's Ace on April 25, 2026, 11:10:06 AM
That's about how it was done.
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Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: London on April 25, 2026, 11:39:34 AM
Please explain how you think a race secretary can fix a computerized draw.
I'm guessing,,by hacking,,if they can hack your bank acct,,this pissass draw is easy peezy
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: toothman on April 25, 2026, 12:24:42 PM
I'm guessing,,by hacking,,if they can hack your bank acct,,this pissass draw is easy peezy

if there's a human involved in the process, then anything can happen....
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: Kole Hanover on April 25, 2026, 09:36:13 PM

 It'd be worthless at Mohawk but worth alot @ Yonkers
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on April 25, 2026, 09:40:23 PM
It already happened at Yonkers. Computers were seized and Nick Ferriero Jr quietly left the building. Are any of you actually paying attention? Anything created by man can be manipulated by man. Wake up. I guess if you cowards ever stood up to end the nonsense you'd have nothing to complain about.
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: rainman2 on April 25, 2026, 09:51:15 PM
I don't remember who did this, but I believe someone at Northfield 'palmed' the #1 pill for his own personal benefit a handful of years ago. 
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: Checked Up on April 26, 2026, 01:18:38 PM
The draw imo can no longer be manipulated, however a Race Secretary has the ability to "tweek" a condition at the last second to create a favor for someone who wasn't eligible at the close of the box.Then they tell anyone who gripes about it that it had to be done in order to fill the race! 11.wp
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 26, 2026, 02:52:33 PM
To pay the race secretary to draw the inside...


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Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: sledge hammer on April 26, 2026, 03:00:54 PM
It already happened at Yonkers. Computers were seized and Nick Ferriero Jr quietly left the building. Are any of you actually paying attention? Anything created by man can be manipulated by man. Wake up. I guess if you cowards ever stood up to end the nonsense you'd have nothing to complain about.

I'm pretty sure this was before the computerized random draw and guys like Banca drew the inside at a statistically impossible rate, and this was over a sampling of 1,000+ races.
I knew someone that could swear under oath that Ferriero was manipulating the order of the entry cards. Once time it was for a redraw for some reason and Banca magically ended up with the rail.
He was lucky to be told to shut his mouth and take a walk..should have been taken off in cuffs.
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: rainman2 on April 26, 2026, 06:12:31 PM
To pay the race secretary to draw the inside...

Rumor has it people have done it, received a few envelopes, and made a good chunk of change.  Many have got caught after the fact too!
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: rainman2 on April 26, 2026, 06:14:33 PM
How much is it worth for you to stop posting?

A better question is:

How much is it worth for you to stop posting and disappear from plop?
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: rainman2 on April 26, 2026, 06:16:42 PM
Please explain how you think a race secretary can fix a computerized draw.

Years ago in the NHL, only the Canadian teams won the lottery for the 1st pick quite a few years in a row.

Statistical luck or fixed computer draw?
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: andrew on April 26, 2026, 06:23:50 PM
A better question is:

How much is it worth for you to stop posting and disappear from plop?
thar he goes again, for no reason other than he is a bully
btw  you didnt answer my question under white house shootig
pretty sure i know any how.
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Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: rainman2 on April 26, 2026, 06:31:51 PM
thar he goes again, for no reason other than he is a bully
btw  you didnt answer my question under white house shootig
pretty sure i know any how.
4f

Who's a "BULLY"?

People post, people respond!

Unfortunately, you don't like what I post, so you "WHINE" and 'CRY' about it!

Time to grow up!
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: andrew on April 26, 2026, 06:33:58 PM
Who's a "BULLY"?

People post, people respond!

Unfortunately, you don't like what I post, so you "WHINE" and 'CRY' about it!

Time to grow up!

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Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: rainman2 on April 26, 2026, 06:37:42 PM
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All prop see is you whining and crying!

Keep it up!

I get to mock you, laugh at you and show plop who is the "WHINY" 'CRYBABY' really is!

You keep posting, and I'll keep replying!

The best part is I'll keep doing it and I won't back down!

What are you going to do about it?
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: andrew on April 26, 2026, 06:40:06 PM
still didnt answer that question rainturd
Title: Re: How much is it worth
Post by: rainman2 on April 26, 2026, 06:42:51 PM
still didnt answer that question rainturd

Do I have to?
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