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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on April 02, 2026, 10:47:53 PM
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how many cheat? who has had a positive test on a racehorse under their care that they are responsible for?( and i dont care if it was a trace or if you use contamination as a way out. a positive test is a positive test)
when you pre-race a horse are you affecting or trying to affect the outcome of a sporting event?
when a trainer gives a driver specific instruction is that race fixing?
let's hear about these sharp trainers in this thriving industry. who cheats? is pear (cause he looks like a pear) serving his days yet? or is he waiting until after stakes season like marble mouth ron does?
you know why they get away with it? because nobody is watching,(litterally nobody unless you are in the business) and they greased just enough hands to keep the welfare funding coming. this wot last forever.
Name Wins Earnings
Ron J Burke 163 $2,288,295
Per Engblom 92 $1,314,843
Cory Stratton 65 $967,128
Virgil V Morgan Jr 46 $844,066
Jodie M Cullen 84 $782,702
Travis M Alexander 43 $709,705
Chuck F Crissman Jr 48 $636,368
Andrew W Adamczyk 40 $578,185
Steve M Carter 32 $554,091
Joseph D Columbo 33 $534,831
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There's no more cheating in harness racing than an angel singing the gospel in the church choir or girl scout selling her cookies ngc3
We're thriving 96z.p
- Pacer 2 Pussy 2, Janitor at the USTA
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how many cheat? who has had a positive test on a racehorse under their care that they are responsible for?( and i dont care if it was a trace or if you use contamination as a way out. a positive test is a positive test)
when you pre-race a horse are you affecting or trying to affect the outcome of a sporting event?
when a trainer gives a driver specific instruction is that race fixing?
let's hear about these sharp trainers in this thriving industry. who cheats? is pear (cause he looks like a pear) serving his days yet? or is he waiting until after stakes season like marble mouth ron does?
you know why they get away with it? because nobody is watching,(litterally nobody unless you are in the business) and they greased just enough hands to keep the welfare funding coming. this wot last forever.
Name Wins Earnings
Ron J Burke 163 $2,288,295
Per Engblom 92 $1,314,843
Cory Stratton 65 $967,128
Virgil V Morgan Jr 46 $844,066
Jodie M Cullen 84 $782,702
Travis M Alexander 43 $709,705
Chuck F Crissman Jr 48 $636,368
Andrew W Adamczyk 40 $578,185
Steve M Carter 32 $554,091
Joseph D Columbo 33 $534,831
Very few cheat. And the cheaters eventually get caught and are weeded out. Way too much at stake for the top guys to cheat. More cheating in baseball, basketball, football than racing.
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Pacer 2, I have a bridge to sell you! lol
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people pre race horses every day at muktiple places per day. whether it works or not doesn't matter. if you have a positive you cheated. some cheaters are better than others and get away with more with less punishment. depends on who you are.
how many of the sports best have positive tests on horses?
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For a gambler or a fan soft racing = small prices and giving up holes is the worst form of cheating. IM good with guys setting up priced horses as most horsemen have patterns you can read but those days are over and today its setting up the 1-2 shot, Drugs have always been part of the game but with many moves and hard racing on movement tracks overlays were on the menu but today its all underlays, Mohawk might be the most corrupt track in the history of racing with huge odds drops when the gate opens on horses in perfect position and many holes given up with very very few 20-50 to one shots ever looking for a two hole trip and in most races by the time they hit the quarter its sitting chalk chalk. if you think it can not get worse at the hawk your wrong as i have seen horses pay 2-80 that shock the shit out of me. Who does not cheat in some way, now thats a tough one. horse racing site and this topic gets no flow are you f--king kidding me, i am not sure who is the most to blame between management and drivers or judges but all three are pure shit and you always get a shit show, At WEG the enemy to them is not the cheat but its the very very few who hate the cheaters, Go up to WEG management and tell them a horse went 5-1 to8-5 leaving and they will tell you the public got it right or tell the a exactor with 12-1 with 7-1 should pay more than 70 dollars and they will tell you the payoff was fine.
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Very few cheat. And the cheaters eventually get caught and are weeded out. Way too much at stake for the top guys to cheat. More cheating in baseball, basketball, football than racing.
Pacer are you related to BARNEY RUBBLE, very LARGICLE POISON
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90% of the trainers use drugs in their horse !
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Very few cheat. And the cheaters eventually get caught and are weeded out. Way too much at stake for the top guys to cheat. More cheating in baseball, basketball, football than racing.
One of the reasons for harness racing's steep decline is the perception that the races are "rigged". And while many here seem to know most of the "cheaters' in the game, I didn't see it with my trainer. Of course I could be wrong. But at Pompano, there were indictments and trials over the years of certain trainers, drivers, owners,etc. who were eventually convicted and forced to leave the grounds. I used to wonder how harness racing folks could survive on some of the purses provided at the smaller tracks. I guess they figure cheating and "making a score" to live and pay their bills was their justification for their criminal behavior. As for your statement that there is cheating in "baseball, basketball, and football", i'm sure theres some bad actors their too!
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Lets get real,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if john BOTHE WAS ANNOUNCING TODAY we would rarely hear zooming bye racing sucks big time. In sports i remember BORG VS MC ENROE with 1000 percent all out on every point or Steph curry against france a show for the ages or TOM BRADY AND when was the last all out race,,, SBSW AND THATS WAY TO LONG AGO,,,,,,,,wE ALL remember great such as SECRATARIAT OR SEATTLE SLEW BUT GREAT IN HARNESS RACING WITH 27.2 55.4 122.3 148.4 IS THAT GREAT IN ANY REAL RACE THE LAST HALF MILE SHOULD BE WAY SLOWER THAN THE FIRST HALF MILE. Watching harness racing is like watching JAMES HARDEN play defence, sports may have problems but racing has over a hundred soft races every day and has no TOM BRADY WHO when up 20-0 is still throwing a bomb for a TD. TB racing your the trainer you go to PAT DAY and tell him to leave and he will but in harness racing try telling these clowns to put your horse in position and you will be stiffed,,,,,,, What happened to the days when after the finish of a race guys would say fuck you to another driver when someone did not move over.
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Lets get real,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if john BOTHE WAS ANNOUNCING TODAY we would rarely hear zooming bye racing sucks big time. In sports i remember BORG VS MC ENROE with 1000 percent all out on every point or Steph curry against france a show for the ages or TOM BRADY AND when was the last all out race,,, SBSW AND THATS WAY TO LONG AGO,,,,,,,,wE ALL remember great such as SECRATARIAT OR SEATTLE SLEW BUT GREAT IN HARNESS RACING WITH 27.2 55.4 122.3 148.4 IS THAT GREAT IN ANY REAL RACE THE LAST HALF MILE SHOULD BE WAY SLOWER THAN THE FIRST HALF MILE. Watching harness racing is like watching JAMES HARDEN play defence, sports may have problems but racing has over a hundred soft races every day and has no TOM BRADY WHO when up 20-0 is still throwing a bomb for a TD. TB racing your the trainer you go to PAT DAY and tell him to leave and he will but in harness racing try telling these clowns to put your horse in position and you will be stiffed,,,,,,, What happened to the days when after the finish of a race guys would say fuck you to another driver when someone did not move over.
ngc3
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For a gambler or a fan soft racing = small prices and giving up holes is the worst form of cheating. IM good with guys setting up priced horses as most horsemen have patterns you can read but those days are over and today its setting up the 1-2 shot, Drugs have always been part of the game but with many moves and hard racing on movement tracks overlays were on the menu but today its all underlays, Mohawk might be the most corrupt track in the history of racing with huge odds drops when the gate opens on horses in perfect position and many holes given up with very very few 20-50 to one shots ever looking for a two hole trip and in most races by the time they hit the quarter its sitting chalk chalk. if you think it can not get worse at the hawk your wrong as i have seen horses pay 2-80 that shock the shit out of me. Who does not cheat in some way, now thats a tough one. horse racing site and this topic gets no flow are you f--king kidding me, i am not sure who is the most to blame between management and drivers or judges but all three are pure shit and you always get a shit show, At WEG the enemy to them is not the cheat but its the very very few who hate the cheaters, Go up to WEG management and tell them a horse went 5-1 to8-5 leaving and they will tell you the public got it right or tell the a exactor with 12-1 with 7-1 should pay more than 70 dollars and they will tell you the payoff was fine.
i respect your posts and you have pinpointed some obvious problems...but i have to disagree somewhat.. the worst part of cheating is filling a horse up with Peds...with absolutley no regard for the horse...or sending them to race as lame ducks and then whine because the vet scratches them as they score down
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i respect your posts and you have pinpointed some obvious problems...but i have to disagree somewhat.. the worst part of cheating is filling a horse up with Peds...with absolutley no regard for the horse...or sending them to race as lame ducks and then whine because the vet scratches them as they score down
From a moral standpoint you are correct but from a betting standpoint i am correct,,,,,,,, but for sure you are right from a kindness standpoint.
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Name Wins Earnings
Ron J Burke 163 $2,288,295 --- obvious with many positives
Per Engblom 92 $1,314,843 --- obvious as he beats all the others at Yonkers
Cory Stratton 65 $967,128 --- I don't know much about him. Appears to be a cheat.
Virgil V Morgan Jr 46 $844,066 --- He has good results. I don't follow his tracks.
Jodie M Cullen 84 $782,702 --- Looks like a cheat by how streaky the barn is.
Travis M Alexander 43 $709,705 --- Obvious cheat
Chuck F Crissman Jr 48 $636,368 --- Don't know much about him.
Andrew W Adamczyk 40 $578,185 --- Don't know much about him. Appears to be a cheat.
Steve M Carter 32 $554,091 --- Don't know anything about him.
Joseph D Columbo 33 $534,831 --- Don't know anything about him.
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Name Wins Earnings
Ron J Burke 163 $2,288,295 --- obvious with many positives
Per Engblom 92 $1,314,843 --- obvious as he beats all the others at Yonkers
Cory Stratton 65 $967,128 --- I don't know much about him. Appears to be a cheat.
Virgil V Morgan Jr 46 $844,066 --- He has good results. I don't follow his tracks.
Jodie M Cullen 84 $782,702 --- Looks like a cheat by how streaky the barn is.
Travis M Alexander 43 $709,705 --- Obvious cheat
Chuck F Crissman Jr 48 $636,368 --- Don't know much about him.
Andrew W Adamczyk 40 $578,185 --- Don't know much about him. Appears to be a cheat.
Steve M Carter 32 $554,091 --- Don't know anything about him.
Joseph D Columbo 33 $534,831 --- Don't know anything about him.
A hilarious amount of stupidity! ngc3 ngc3
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A hilarious amount of stupidity! ngc3 ngc3
I couldn't agree more. Each one of your posts builds on a hilarious amount of stupidity! You loved getting smacked around.
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I have no issue with a driver letting a horse in, that they intend to follow second over later in the race.
Strategically it can work well.
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I have no issue with a driver letting a horse in, that they intend to follow second over later in the race.
Strategically it can work well.
ngc3
Chihuahua Cock the racing strategist.
No better place to make your first move is to sit cover behind a horse (if they) making their second move ngc3
Don't you have a lawn to defecate on.
You own horses ngc3
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Everyone cheats Everyone who trains and drives a harness horse knows how to give a horse a needle. If they deny it then they are liars the people with money can buy the good pain medicine that’s gets thru drug testing and the people who don’t have the money gets the crap pain medicine but every horse that races gets a needle. If you disagree you really are a moron
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Everyone cheats Everyone who trains and drives a harness horse knows how to give a horse a needle. If they deny it then they are liars the people with money can buy the good pain medicine that’s gets thru drug testing and the people who don’t have the money gets the crap pain medicine but every horse that races gets a needle. If you disagree you really are a moron
THATS HILARIOUS! TOTAL HOGWASH YOU HAVE QUITE AN IMAGINATION!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Any trainer in top 5 nationally is juicing. Sad but honest truth
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THATS HILARIOUS! TOTAL HOGWASH YOU HAVE QUITE AN IMAGINATION!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
You are in la la land. I dont agree 100 per cent though i am sure its 99 per cent and i have been racing for over 50 years. You Pacer 2 are a fool!
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The top trainers have way too much to lose to cheat. They arent risking their careers! tmbz1
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The fact the original post says he doesn’t care about contamination tells you everything you need to know about the dip shits on this forum. Let’s just use Ronnie as an example, think about the amount of horses he enters and starts per year. Look it up brainiacs, it’s public. Then think about the fact he has been racing this volume of horses for years. If you own a trucking company, only hire legitimate, clean, sober hard working drivers, BUT you do it long enough, one of your trucks will have an accident. Is it because of the companies owners negligence? Is it because he was conducting business improperly? Newsflash it’s something called breakage. With the amount of horses these individuals race, whether they’re clean trainers or not. You show your lack of intelligence by chastising anyone who received a positive test. Not only do you show your lack intelligence but you also show how little (for many of you ZERO,NONE) experience in how a barn operates, the amount of individuals both employed by the trainer and/or the state. You retards crying about positives on here every day, have you ever stepped foot in one of our sports tests barns? If you haven’t, kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP. You may think you know what you’re talking about, but you don’t. I invite you simpletons to any test barn in the country, where the state holds horsemen to an absolute ZERO threshold on infinite different legal and illegal substances. Since many of you don’t realize, these test barns are filthy. I cleaned throughout the night between races. Think about how many horses AND humans, who have nothing to do with a horse in your care, come and go in the same stall as your horse being tested with ZERO thresholds on common medications. You people don’t know you all love to point the finger, these are REAL PEOPLE with REAL LIVES stop pointing your finger and saying you don’t care about contamination. You don’t have to trust me, find out for yourselves. Get off your fucking computer and go to these test barns. Contamination is a real issue.
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adamcyk wins from 10 hole last night easy 52 . claimed for 15 2 weeks ago drops to 10 and no one claims . what gives !!!
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Adamcyzk is no stranger to getting positives ! Repeating offender ! He’s got more drugs to use in his horses than elchapo!
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The fact the original post says he doesn’t care about contamination tells you everything you need to know about the dip shits on this forum. Let’s just use Ronnie as an example, think about the amount of horses he enters and starts per year. Look it up brainiacs, it’s public. Then think about the fact he has been racing this volume of horses for years. If you own a trucking company, only hire legitimate, clean, sober hard working drivers, BUT you do it long enough, one of your trucks will have an accident. Is it because of the companies owners negligence? Is it because he was conducting business improperly? Newsflash it’s something called breakage. With the amount of horses these individuals race, whether they’re clean trainers or not. You show your lack of intelligence by chastising anyone who received a positive test. Not only do you show your lack intelligence but you also show how little (for many of you ZERO,NONE) experience in how a barn operates, the amount of individuals both employed by the trainer and/or the state. You retards crying about positives on here every day, have you ever stepped foot in one of our sports tests barns? If you haven’t, kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP. You may think you know what you’re talking about, but you don’t. I invite you simpletons to any test barn in the country, where the state holds horsemen to an absolute ZERO threshold on infinite different legal and illegal substances. Since many of you don’t realize, these test barns are filthy. I cleaned throughout the night between races. Think about how many horses AND humans, who have nothing to do with a horse in your care, come and go in the same stall as your horse being tested with ZERO thresholds on common medications. You people don’t know you all love to point the finger, these are REAL PEOPLE with REAL LIVES stop pointing your finger and saying you don’t care about contamination. You don’t have to trust me, find out for yourselves. Get off your fucking computer and go to these test barns. Contamination is a real issue.
Not a lot of complex thinkers here.
A lot of anger, like a bad breakup, a divorce, a custody battle where the stakes are high, and the animosity is like fuel.
Even your feeling the anger in frustration defending what is logical, and equitable and how justice is suppose to work.
Evidence, logic, witnesses, statistical, probability...
Lives, business, investments ruined on both sides, the honest and guilty, undeserving at times.
I think we all know the score...and on our best day, including one as symbolic as today, many strive,, some reaching very high up...but none of us are the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ! ngc3