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Title: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Calhoun on March 01, 2026, 04:25:34 PM
A member of a FB group asked me this question.

So, I asked grok:

Is Grifting in Goshen NY a crime?


grok said,

No, "grifting" itself is not a specific crime under New York State law (or in Goshen, NY, which falls under state and local Orange County jurisdiction).

"Grifting" is a colloquial or slang term for conning, swindling, or deceiving people to obtain money or benefits through dishonest means—often small-scale scams, confidence tricks, or manipulative schemes.

It's not defined as a standalone criminal offense in the New York Penal Law.

However, the actions typically described as grifting are usually illegal and can be prosecuted as various crimes, depending on the specifics:

Larceny (theft) — Including by false pretenses, trick, or deception (NY Penal Law Article 155). This covers obtaining property through fraud or misrepresentation .


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Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on March 01, 2026, 04:28:43 PM
A member of a FB group asked me this question.

So, I asked grok:

Is Grifting in Goshen NY a crime?


grok said,

No, "grifting" itself is not a specific crime under New York State law (or in Goshen, NY, which falls under state and local Orange County jurisdiction).

"Grifting" is a colloquial or slang term for conning, swindling, or deceiving people to obtain money or benefits through dishonest means—often small-scale scams, confidence tricks, or manipulative schemes.

It's not defined as a standalone criminal offense in the New York Penal Law.

However, the actions typically described as grifting are usually illegal and can be prosecuted as various crimes, depending on the specifics:

Larceny (theft) — Including by false pretenses, trick, or deception (NY Penal Law Article 155). This covers obtaining property through fraud or misrepresentation .


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Colhoun, feel free to show me where anyone donates to my LLC. As for "owning" a share of an interest held by an LLC....
LLC ownership (membership interests) should be documented in:

The Operating Agreement

Company records

Sometimes tax filings (Schedule K-1s)

If someone owns a percentage but:

It’s not documented

Not reflected in company records

Not disclosed to other members

Not reported for tax purposes

That creates serious legal risk.

It may involve:

📌 Tax fraud

📌 Securities violations (if investors involved)

📌 Fraud or misrepresentation

📌 Breach of fiduciary duty

2️⃣ If You Mean: Secret Ownership to Hide Income or Assets

If ownership is intentionally hidden to:

Avoid taxes

Hide assets in a lawsuit

Evade child support or judgments

Circumvent regulatory scrutiny

That is potentially:

Tax evasion (federal crime)

Fraud

Perjury (if sworn filings contradict reality)

That’s not just “improper” — it can be criminal.

WARM UP THE BUS!!!!
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on March 01, 2026, 04:32:12 PM
Trick or deceive?

Fred Bourgault in prison.
Two Oneida County cases ongoing.
Jeff Gillis 5 years and 20k supsension.
Howard Taylor still fighting Delaware and Canada.
Nick Devita yet another "indefinite" suspension.

All the result of information obtained through me. Next!  ngc3
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on March 01, 2026, 04:36:11 PM
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Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on March 01, 2026, 04:42:36 PM
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SHALL I CONTINUE????  ngc3
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Kole Hanover on March 01, 2026, 06:42:05 PM

  Get to the part where your elderly friend got mouthy over it & Ray was going to mop the floor with him over you.
 Did you ever fight Ray for making Yas look foolish & doing that to your friend over them not liking you?

 Or did all you do for Ray was screaming over the fence, while he was training his horses?

 You really taught him, lol
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Pacer 2 on March 01, 2026, 06:43:27 PM
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SHALL I CONTINUE????  ngc3

  Who hurt you??
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Sakit on March 01, 2026, 08:18:42 PM
A member of a FB group asked me this question.

So, I asked grok:

Is Grifting in Goshen NY a crime?


grok said,

No, "grifting" itself is not a specific crime under New York State law (or in Goshen, NY, which falls under state and local Orange County jurisdiction).

"Grifting" is a colloquial or slang term for conning, swindling, or deceiving people to obtain money or benefits through dishonest means—often small-scale scams, confidence tricks, or manipulative schemes.

It's not defined as a standalone criminal offense in the New York Penal Law.

However, the actions typically described as grifting are usually illegal and can be prosecuted as various crimes, depending on the specifics:

Larceny (theft) — Including by false pretenses, trick, or deception (NY Penal Law Article 155). This covers obtaining property through fraud or misrepresentation .


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wow Calhoun it looks like you had a nerve!
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Sakit on March 01, 2026, 08:23:05 PM
Well I have to hand it to you you've become a master of Photoshopping pictures.

I don't care what you write or what fake pictures you post after what you said about Larry suffering from cancer you should be ashamed of yourself as a human being let alone a man!

I've never commented about your family or you personally as I don't know you and never heard of you before this website but what I can say is after what you said about my friend Larry was not only repulsive but showed your true lack of character.
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Calhoun on March 01, 2026, 08:26:44 PM
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SHALL I CONTINUE????  ngc3
Mike,
Your teeth still look like 5 miles of bad road
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on March 01, 2026, 08:43:47 PM
N
OFF THE BOOKS!  ngc3
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on March 01, 2026, 09:03:12 PM
  Get to the part where your elderly friend got mouthy over it & Ray was going to mop the floor with him over you.
 Did you ever fight Ray for making Yas look foolish & doing that to your friend over them not liking you?

 Or did all you do for Ray was screaming over the fence, while he was training his horses?

 You really taught him, lol

You and your tough friends looking to "mop the floor" with someone in their 70s is disgusting. Bragging about it online is even worse.
Real tough guys you all are
Title: Re: Is Grifting Considered a Crime In Goshen, NY?
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on March 01, 2026, 09:10:09 PM
  Get to the part where your elderly friend got mouthy over it & Ray was going to mop the floor with him over you.
 Did you ever fight Ray for making Yas look foolish & doing that to your friend over them not liking you?

 Or did all you do for Ray was screaming over the fence, while he was training his horses?

 You really taught him, lol

Gonna? So he attacked an old man for doing business with me. Then went on record that I was the reason. Fucking hilarious.  ngc3
How's Sugar Packet??? https://youtu.be/TQXnhrR7IdY?si=DSXXldJ0ErY78sY_

Forgot, he couldn't even do that alone, he had to have Ford along with him. REAL BRAVE....still have yet to come to ME. Cowards.
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