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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: BrokenHeadPole on February 04, 2026, 10:33:27 AM
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I see they moved the post to 6 and are having 15 races. They sped the races up last week and did $3.2 million. Can they have a record and do $3.5?
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Lots of tracks are having record handles. A great sign.
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How many tracks open so far this year? Already down over 10% total handle compared to same time last year. Down over 230 million in handle last two years. One track closed because they can't pay their purses! ngc3
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FACTS
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This is great news....there is nothing worse then when they drag things out, especially in this day and age. Plus, I got places to go after the races....can't sit around there all night.
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How many tracks open so far this year? Already down over 10% total handle compared to same time last year. Down over 230 million in handle last two years. One track closed because they can't pay their purses! ngc3
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Your chart posted is comparing 116 days (2026) to 138 days (2025)
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Your chart posted is comparing 116 days (2026) to 138 days (2025)
And what does that mean to you ?
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Means absolutely nothing this time of year
Lots of tracks closed this time of year. Get back to me when summer gets here and most are running and not missing days because of weather. Dover just missed 5 days because of freezing track conditions. Not to mention many others.
Look at the higher percentage race average and betting interest for 2026
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And what does that mean to you ?
It means you can twist anything benefit an argument. The actual money bet per race day is up $50k per card but down total handle to date due to all the cancellations so far. Although I think the total per card will be down again this year, that's not the case right now. Showing that SCM is only talking about data to make his point. Too early to tell what will come of harness betting this year, but so far it is up on a per card basis. tmbz1
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It means you can twist anything benefit an argument. The actual money bet per race day is up $50k per card but down total handle to date due to all the cancellations so far. Although I think the total per card will be down again this year, that's not the case right now. Showing that SCM is only talking about data to make his point. Too early to tell what will come of harness betting this year, but so far it is up on a per card basis. tmbz1
Last year this time people blamed Freehold for being closed and a loss of those dates. The trend is constant over three years, you're willing to stand put? Over 230 million less last two years. 119 million less in 2025 compared to 2024 alone. Feel free to do nothing which is exactly what has been done by the industry. Other than begging for more welfare. One idiot asked if Gural will be raising purses because of the lost dates. HE LOSES MONEY every time he turns on the lights. Hey, maybe Monmouth will close and you can try to steal that subsidy too! So go ahead and try to convince yourselves that it's me and my agenda. The numbers don't lie, AND your "industry" is evaporating. Tracks are closing each year, now Hawthorne can't pay their purses. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, thriving. Show me the last time handles have increased across the board and purses reflected what the industry has earned on its own. Most of you people must have voted for Biden. Handles drop for years and one week increase, they say SEE!!!! ngc3
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I forgot to mention wasn't it just a few weeks ago Meadowlands had trouble breaking 1.5 million? Didn't you all say the lag was the reason for this last year? Then they tried it and handles tanked? Now you have one night they sped up the races because of an impending snowstorm and you say it was because they dropped the lag! Bunch of fucking idiots, at least choose a side and stick to it. Or, accept reality. Nobody under 40 is betting and a loyal customer. The yearly loss is hanging just under 10% each year. For every older degenerate bettor there is nobody taking their place. So yes, let's see in 6 months. You would hope eventually the bleeding stops. And most are too blind to accept that when you lose 200 million, then gain back 50 it's NOT A GAIN! You still lost 150 mil dipshits. Maybe beg for more casinos!!! Like Yonkers! Oh wait...forgot. BTW 84% of purses in NYS are subsidized by VLTs. tmbz1
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It means you can twist anything benefit an argument. The actual money bet per race day is up $50k per card but down total handle to date due to all the cancellations so far. Although I think the total per card will be down again this year, that's not the case right now. Showing that SCM is only talking about data to make his point. Too early to tell what will come of harness betting this year, but so far it is up on a per card basis. tmbz1
overall handle decline has been over 5% year over year the past 5 years
race days dwindling is another sign of a different type of decline
foal crop another data point
its dying a slow death but accelerating
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Meadowlands should race twilight cards in winter start at 3pm finish by 7 .
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Kentucky, Indiana, and Ohio will keep the game going for a long time.
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Kentucky, Indiana, and Ohio will keep the game going for a long time.
Is Kentucky 'thriving' because of not much competition and bigger purses (stakes included)?
Plainridge was this way in the beginning until people jumped on the bandwagon!
Indiana is going downhill just like the meadowlands. From what is said, there are many horsemen who aren't too happy there.
Ohio? 10 year contracts for VLT'S? Can someone check into this?
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This is great news....there is nothing worse then when they drag things out, especially in this day and age. Plus, I got places to go after the races....can't sit around there all night.
I love the fact that they are "speeding" up the races again. Here in Maine, they really move the races along very fast. That's because they have 20 or so people attending the live races. LOL!