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Title: Monticello Website
Post by: Bogeyman on January 05, 2026, 08:08:09 PM
Since it's a new year, just wondering if the management at Monti may get motivated enough to remove Catskill Steve's OCTOBER 23,2024 picks from their website before the end of this year!!! I realize few if any people even know they have a website - but if someone does stumble upon it - it's really not a good look.  Can't be that hard to just remove the page....yes - I know I'm being picky....... ngc3
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: thesilentone on January 05, 2026, 09:28:08 PM
Since it's a new year, just wondering if the management at Monti may get motivated enough to remove Catskill Steve's OCTOBER 23,2024 picks from their website before the end of this year!!! I realize few if any people even know they have a website - but if someone does stumble upon it - it's really not a good look.  Can't be that hard to just remove the page....yes - I know I'm being picky....... ngc3


i agree , i used to read his religiously and he completely fell off the face of the earth . he had great analysis
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Locked in with pace on January 06, 2026, 05:04:17 AM
shows you how much they really care
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Dingus on January 06, 2026, 08:34:21 AM
They don’t even have an outrider there.
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Locked in with pace on January 06, 2026, 08:47:06 AM
Does Yonkers have one? Is there a rule that the track has to have one?
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Checked Up on January 06, 2026, 11:46:02 AM
Everything at Monticello is substandard, why would the website be any different?
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: toothman on January 06, 2026, 09:32:10 PM
They may be racing on a shoestring budget, but at least they don't bounce purse checks.
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Parked on January 07, 2026, 11:29:14 AM
The picture they have on the website is one of the best I’ve seen. 
Action and full of color. 
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Oliver Clozoff on January 07, 2026, 11:31:59 AM
That casino will be shut by end of 2026 and there goes Monti racing.
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: wizardofoz on January 07, 2026, 11:35:19 AM
Monticello Raceway is one of the most successful harness tracks in America for betting. On Monday, with 11 races and a total purse distribution of around $50,000 for the day, they did around $600,000 in handle! How many other tracks can produce a handle 12 times the purses being offered?
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Locked in with pace on January 07, 2026, 11:58:03 AM
The bigger question is how do the horsenmen allow the track to have such a huge handle to purse % and then they race for peanuts?
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: MTP1972 on January 07, 2026, 12:03:30 PM
The majority of the handle comes from ADW's and off-track locations. On average their fee is in the 4% range, so 4% of a $600,000 handle is only $24,000, and that money has to go toward expenses, so there's not much left over for the purse account.
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: wizardofoz on January 07, 2026, 12:30:41 PM
Each race has a 15-25% takeout. Where does that money go?
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: MTP1972 on January 07, 2026, 12:34:10 PM
Some goes to the track which they use for expenses and some goes to the state.
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: dougie on January 07, 2026, 04:43:18 PM
I was there last year a few times. The same 20 people sit in the simulcast room hanging out. On the track apron, maybe another 10-15 folks watching the races. A person selling great hotdogs. It's amazing how they continue racing there.
Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Papillon on January 07, 2026, 05:11:48 PM
Each race has a 15-25% takeout. Where does that money go?

rebates

most of the CAW action receives at least 50% or more of the takeout back as a rebate.... since they account for over 50% of the handle--Monti doesn't receive much

Title: Re: Monticello Website
Post by: Calhoun on January 07, 2026, 05:42:21 PM
Each race has a 15-25% takeout. Where does that money go?
I asked Google AI:

Monticello harness track what percentage of wagering comes from ADWs?

No exact figures available for Monticello. 

But it did say:

Revenue Distribution: In typical modern racing models, ADW operators often receive a larger percentage of the takeout than the track and purse accounts combined, frequently leaving the track with only about 3% to 5% of the ADW handle as a fee.

I remember Monti handle rose dramatically during/after Covid. The AI also mentioned the track greatly expanded its ADW side of things.

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