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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: wizardofoz on December 08, 2025, 08:31:21 PM
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Meadowlands - NJ • 12/11/25 • Post Time 6:20 PM
Race 1 $8,000 FMTM<68 Pace 1 Mile 10 ENTRIES 6:20 PM
Race 2 $8,500 TM<71Cd Trot 1 Mile 10 ENTRIES 6:45 PM
Race 3 $22,500 nw 25000LT Pace 1 Mile 6 ENTRIES 7:10 PM
Race 4 $9,500 TM<77.5Cd Trot 1 Mile 10 ENTRIES 7:35 PM
Race 5 $8,500 FMTM<71 Pace 1 Mile 10 ENTRIES 8:00 PM
Race 6 $23,850 nw 25000LT Pace 1 Mile 12 ENTRIES 8:25 PM
Race 7 $25,750 4u w2-nw5 Trot 1 Mile 11 ENTRIES 8:50 PM
Race 8 $12,500 nw7500L5cd Trot 1 Mile 9 ENTRIES 9:15 PM
Race 9 $29,150 5u w4-nw7 Trot 1 Mile 12 ENTRIES 9:40 PM
Race 10 $25,750 4u w2-nw5 Trot 1 Mile 11 ENTRIES 10:05 PM
Race 11 $8,000 7500CL Pace 1 Mile 10 ENTRIES 10:30 PM
Race 12 $8,000 FMTM<68 Pace 1 Mile 10 ENTRIES 10:55 PM
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Approximately how much of the that track's handle is CAW?
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Approximately how much of the that track's handle is CAW?
They confirmed today at the symposium that therr is zero independent oversite of any US tote system.
Translation: tracks can and will do whatever they want and we have absolutely no idea what's going on with the caws.
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I think the Meadowlands shut off CAW betting as a test, and the handle dropped over half. They quickly allowed them back
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I thought the Meadowlands eliminated the drag for 2 weeks and handle got crushed. Gural said screw you all and went back to having about 25-30 minutes in between races again.
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Approximately how much of the that track's handle is CAW?
it is over 50%
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I think the Meadowlands shut off CAW betting as a test, and the handle dropped over half. They quickly allowed them back
It was the opposite. The reduced drag threw off the caw algorithms
Gural publicly stated that the caws couldn't adjust so they returned to the drag.
The caws couldn't bet last so they weren't betting at all. Their software was set up to follow the drag schedule.
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Bartlett was watching his son's first basketball game last week. Only driving two so maybe watching another before driving.
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Last night he won 2 of the big finals and was second in the other two. All-source handle on the 12-race program totaled $1,600,765 which is the highest THURSDAY night handle there in a long time.
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Last night he won 2 of the big finals and was second in the other two. All-source handle on the 12-race program totaled $1,600,765 which is the highest THURSDAY night handle there in a long time.
Nobody wants to hear about handle until we are told what % is CAW and what % is retail.
Save the bullshit
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Handle is handle. The more the merrier.
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Handle is handle. The more the merrier.
This comment right here. Perfectly stated. Is 100% exactly why the industry has been destroyed.
Congratulations
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Handle is handle. The more the merrier.
idiotic reply 73cv.2
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If widardofoz's real name isn't on a payroll / expense check cut by New Meadowlands Racetrack LLC, I think I'm a monkeys uncle.
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If widardofoz's real name isn't on a payroll / expense check cut by New Meadowlands Racetrack LLC, I think I'm a monkeys uncle.
100% spot on
Everyone who works are the tracks believes what he posted.
Meadowlands handle down 3% year over year and blame it on the 3 weeks when they reduced the drag.
Remember what gural said about those 3 weeks. The CAWs couldn't adjust to the different countdown clock so they weren't betting, he reinstated no drag.
Attributing an entire years worth of handle decline iver a few weeks the caws couldn't bet
https://www.drf.com/news/harness-prewitt-helped-hoosier-park-buck-downward-handle-trend
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100% spot on
Everyone who works are the tracks believes what he posted.
Meadowlands handle down 3% year over year and blame it on the 3 weeks when they reduced the drag.
Remember what gural said about those 3 weeks. The CAWs couldn't adjust to the different countdown clock so they weren't betting, he reinstated no drag.
Attributing an entire years worth of handle decline iver a few weeks the caws couldn't bet
https://www.drf.com/news/harness-prewitt-helped-hoosier-park-buck-downward-handle-trend
this is a complete crock of shit
CAWs wait for all the money to enter the pools, and then they bet-so they couldn't care less when the races go off
common sense
now the drag might affect retail bets, but CAWs wait until after the race starts before their money enters the pools-so a drag doesn't affect them
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this is a complete crock of shit
CAWs wait for all the money to enter the pools, and then they bet-so they couldn't care less when the races go off
common sense
now the drag might affect retail bets, but CAWs wait until after the race starts before their money enters the pools-so a drag doesn't affect them
I dont believe thay was actually the case either. But thats what he said. These CAWs can do anything from a tech standpoint. The drag reduction couldn't have been something they couldn't overcome from a technical view. That seems ludicrous.
My opinion is that the the drag reduction did impact the retail space. The caws complained, they couldn't bet as much as they want/needed to and without that caw money, the meadowlands quickly reversed course.
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I dont believe thay was actually the case either. But thats what he said. These CAWs can do anything from a tech standpoint. The drag reduction couldn't have been something they couldn't overcome from a technical view. That seems ludicrous.
My opinion is that the the drag reduction did impact the retail space. The caws complained, they couldn't bet as much as they want/needed to and without that caw money, the meadowlands quickly reversed course.
this is probably most of it tmbz1
I'm not sure if the CAWs complained-they take what can with the handle they are dealing with
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this is probably most of it tmbz1
I'm not sure if the CAWs complained-they take what can with the handle they are dealing with
I dont know. That is my pure speculation. Remember when gural allowed them in it was a negotiated deal that required them handle a certain amount for the access to the pools and the rebates
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also another comment about Hoosier......
Prewitt is blatantly lying saying the 30% increase is mostly retail
with an industry in handle free fall--it would be absurd and unexplainable why suddenly one racetrack shows a 30% increase in retail handle
if Prewitt is such a handle wizard--then why does Harrahs PHL have such a pathetic handle?
why doesn't his magic work there?
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also another comment about Hoosier......
Prewitt is blatantly lying saying the 30% increase is mostly retail
with an industry in handle free fall--it would be absurd and unexplainable why suddenly one racetrack shows a 30% increase in retail handle
if Prewitt is such a handle wizard--then why does Harrahs PHL have such a pathetic handle?
why doesn't his magic work there?
Anyone can say anything. I can say that i bought 100000 bitcoins years ago. Unless I show you my account, would me telling you that actually mean anything?
Prewitt needs to prove it. Provide transparency. Show your customers the information.
Otherwise it's just a waste of time. Nobody believes it. And it's insulting