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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: yonkersjeff on November 30, 2025, 02:35:00 PM
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As of Monday all of Culliphers horses being trained by Enrico Robinson and all of Buccis horses being trained by Diana Maglio at Yonkers Raceway.
What is up. These are obvious beards. What is up. What's the real story
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As of Monday all of Culliphers horses being trained by Enrico Robinson and all of Buccis horses being trained by Diana Maglio at Yonkers Raceway.
What is up. These are obvious beards. What is up. What's the real story
bucci black box 60 days at yonkers diana is his old lady lol
cullifer no clue but assuming he’s got a hot test and getting ready for it to come out
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It's comical that they go through all the bullshit of putting up imposter trainers. I would respect the powers that be more if they just stopped with the suspensions and let them continue to program the actual trainer and not some asshole's wife who probably doesn't know the difference between a knee boot and a snaffle bit. All they are accomplishing by listing a beard/imposter is misrepresenting the public/bettors/gamblers. Harness Racing is a fucking joke and embarrassment.
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Robinson hasn’t started a horse since Feb, 2024, and all of a sudden gets a bunch to train?
I count 7 entries so far. Is he an assistant trainer for Cullipher?
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It's comical that they go through all the bullshit of putting up imposter trainers. I would respect the powers that be more if they just stopped with the suspensions and let them continue to program the actual trainer and not some asshole's wife who probably doesn't know the difference between a knee boot and a snaffle bit. All they are accomplishing by listing a beard/imposter is misrepresenting the public/bettors/gamblers. Harness Racing is a fucking joke and embarrassment.
In the prehistoric days, programs would assert the trainer-stable relationship--The program told you that Apples Thomas was the trainer for the Haughton Stable.
Its not quite the same and it may be apples and oranges, but the bettor desrves to know whose horses a new trainer is training for.
Its easy enough.....
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In the prehistoric days, programs would assert the trainer-stable relationship--The program told you that Apples Thomas was the trainer for the Haughton Stable.
Its not quite the same and it may be apples and oranges, but the bettor desrves to know whose horses a new trainer is training for.
Its easy enough.....
They did it that way back then so if a horse did come up positive, Apples would take the fall and not Billy. Now, they don't give a shit, as they put down as trainer their wife, daughter, pool cleaner etc as trainer if horses comes up hot. Like I said, a fucking joke.
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Is there any way suspending the horses from racing would work?
Or if the owner transferred a horse to another trainer it would need to be to someone with X number of starts, not some retread name who pops up after six years and has 50 horses.
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Is there any way suspending the horses from racing would work?
Or if the owner transferred a horse to another trainer it would need to be to someone with X number of starts, not some retread name who pops up after six years and has 50 horses.
Been said a million times...that is the only thing that would be a consequence worth being scared of. That's why it will never happen. All commissions are on the take and don't want to ruffle any feathers. Scared they will be replace!
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Every time cullipher gets days his boy enrico goes down as trainer so cullipher don’t miss a beat. Just like all the other crooks in harness racing. Nobody misses any time. Such a great business get days. Take em when you want and just put down someone else til your suspension is over.
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Is there any way suspending the horses from racing would work?
Or if the owner transferred a horse to another trainer it would need to be to someone with X number of starts, not some retread name who pops up after six years and has 50 horses.
If thectracks suspended the horses, they would lose revenue via handle if those starters cant be replaced. Clear conflict of interest.
Its a fatally flawed industry.
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Is there any way suspending the horses from racing would work?
Or if the owner transferred a horse to another trainer it would need to be to someone with X number of starts, not some retread name who pops up after six years and has 50 horses.
i think they do that in canada, ey?
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First, this is BS. If you don't see the difference between back in the day with Ray and Larry Remmen and a positive test, and today's current cast of rule-benders and breakers, then you have a bigger problem than you think. Larry came up positive, the horses didn't go anywhere. Larry took a vacation, Ray went about his day as always, drove, and Don Queen went down as trainer instead of Larry. Personally, I see that as a legitimate scenario.
Second, I have long been a supporter of owner accountability, and there should be without question. However, you have a very slippery slope here. In the end, are you going to punish every owner and suspend all of his/her horses because one of them (and the trainer) came up positive? My answer is no. Should you suspend that one horse? OK, I can see that, but there has to be parameters. Quarantine (first) perhaps, additional testing, out-of-competition, additional blood, and so on-----all at the owner's expense. However, it still comes down to picking a trainer? Who is safe to pick and who is not? Alagna? Burke? Pelling? Takter? Toscano? Menary? McNair? Cullen? Svanstedt? Melander? Wallin? It's always a simple solution from one's keyboard.
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This would all change if the owner got suspended as well
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Things were different many years ago. It had a lot to do with trainers being stabled at the track. Comparing the Remmen brothers to the cheaters of today is apples to oranges. Legit trainers with knowledge vs. chemists who train horses.
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Cullipher did not get days. You people know nothing.
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Cullipher did not get days. You people know nothing.
They are coming, thus the trainer change. You think Pollack just transferred 100s of thousands of dollars worth of horses to Enrico for no reason? And I'm sure this guy will be the best Enrico since Enrico Pallazzo! ngc3
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are you going to punish every owner and suspend all of his/her horses because one of them (and the trainer) came up positive?
Absolutely!!! It would immediately end Burke, Weaver, Bruscemi from having half of the horses in a stake race. OWNER
RESPONSIBILITY!!! There are absolutely ZERO CONSEQUENCES for scumbags who leave their horses in the care of
chemists. Do you think an owner with a 15-20 horse barn would risk having his entire operation shut down by using an
Allard. The corrupt, so called, sport is in a quickening death spiral. Immediate, and drastic measures are needed, if this
so called sport wants to survive. This industry has been living on welfare for decades. The welfare is going to go away,
sooner or later.
Sincerely, Silent One
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Should be an owner/trainer/horse suspension process.
1st violation by the trio, purse returned, trainer and horse suspended.
2nd violation by the duo of owner/trainer, doesn't have to be the same horse, horse, trainer and owner suspended, purse returned.
3rd violation by owner, doesn't have to be same trainer or horse, horse, trainer and owner suspended, purse returned.
As with multiple suspensions now, the length of suspension and size of fine goes up with each violation against the trainer, horse or owner.
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are you going to punish every owner and suspend all of his/her horses because one of them (and the trainer) came up positive?
Absolutely!!! It would immediately end Burke, Weaver, Bruscemi from having half of the horses in a stake race. OWNER
RESPONSIBILITY!!! There are absolutely ZERO CONSEQUENCES for scumbags who leave their horses in the care of
chemists. Do you think an owner with a 15-20 horse barn would risk having his entire operation shut down by using an
Allard. The corrupt, so called, sport is in a quickening death spiral. Immediate, and drastic measures are needed, if this
so called sport wants to survive. This industry has been living on welfare for decades. The welfare is going to go away,
sooner or later.
Sincerely, Silent One
EVERY sport is corrupt along with business and politics. Ya wanna shut down everything!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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are you going to punish every owner and suspend all of his/her horses because one of them (and the trainer) came up positive?
Absolutely!!! It would immediately end Burke, Weaver, Bruscemi from having half of the horses in a stake race. OWNER
RESPONSIBILITY!!! There are absolutely ZERO CONSEQUENCES for scumbags who leave their horses in the care of
chemists. Do you think an owner with a 15-20 horse barn would risk having his entire operation shut down by using an
Allard. The corrupt, so called, sport is in a quickening death spiral. Immediate, and drastic measures are needed, if this
so called sport wants to survive. This industry has been living on welfare for decades. The welfare is going to go away,
sooner or later.
Sincerely, Silent One
Of course not the whole barn. The horse should get 30 days off. The investigators should be paying visits to make sure the suspended trainer is nowhere to be found. Horse should at least be moved to a different location to give the appearance of moving barns. These horses never leave their stall or the current operation. Just another employee's name is down.
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Things were different many years ago. It had a lot to do with trainers being stabled at the track. Comparing the Remmen brothers to the cheaters of today is apples to oranges. Legit trainers with knowledge vs. chemists who train horses.
I wasn't comparing the Remmen brothers to cheaters of today, and I wasn't speaking to horsemanship, training ability, etc. If it wasn't obvious to you, I was speaking to the protocol of listing a trainer. Nothing more.
I've long said the problem is deep-rooted. Years ago, NYRA and/or New York State Gaming Commission caught Rick Dutrow-----while he was on suspension. He got days, the horses stayed exactly where they were, and raced under his assistant's name. But, they caught Dutrow for talking to his "assistant" trainer (employees) about the horses, talking to his owners, billing his owners, receiving the monies (yes, his owners paid his bill knowing full well he was on suspension), and so on. They caught him because they looked! Our sport is where it is because too many authorities, governing bodies, etc., don't look, and when they do, they turn a blind eye to it. Period.
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I wasn't comparing the Remmen brothers to cheaters of today, and I wasn't speaking to horsemanship, training ability, etc. If it wasn't obvious to you, I was speaking to the protocol of listing a trainer. Nothing more.
I've long said the problem is deep-rooted. Years ago, NYRA and/or New York State Gaming Commission caught Rick Dutrow-----while he was on suspension. He got days, the horses stayed exactly where they were, and raced under his assistant's name. But, they caught Dutrow for talking to his "assistant" trainer (employees) about the horses, talking to his owners, billing his owners, receiving the monies (yes, his owners paid his bill knowing full well he was on suspension), and so on. They caught him because they looked! Our sport is where it is because too many authorities, governing bodies, etc., don't look, and when they do, they turn a blind eye to it. Period.
It’s the age old vicious cycle. Powers that be are so afraid of bad publicity, they don’t look anywhere that could create it.
And within the business, there are no secrets, but no one wants to be a “rat”
And here we are.
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Cullipher did not get days. You people know nothing.
So Pollack just transferred all those horses to Enrico
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Pollack uses Menary as trainer in Ontario. That should tell you his integrity level.
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Didn't he have a Cobalt positive not too long ago and blamed it on feed. 90% of the rich owners will not employ any trainer that isn't at the top of the standings. They first love is the almighty dollar with the health and welfare of the horses a distant second. Time to limit how many horses any one owner may have and it's time to start protecting local jurisdictions from the big owners.
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Bucci owned horse couldn’t race last as listed as OUS. Owner under supension.
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I see Devita experienced the same fate. Mr Prevost must be pulling his hair out. Looks good on the jerk, wish more commissions would start OOC testing and get things back to a somewhat even playing field.
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Things were different many years ago. It had a lot to do with trainers being stabled at the track. Comparing the Remmen brothers to the cheaters of today is apples to oranges. Legit trainers with knowledge vs. chemists who train horses.
👏👏 tmbz1
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Didn't he have a Cobalt positive not too long ago and blamed it on feed. 90% of the rich owners will not employ any trainer that isn't at the top of the standings. They first love is the almighty dollar with the health and welfare of the horses a distant second. Time to limit how many horses any one owner may have and it's time to start protecting local jurisdictions from the big owners.
That was one of many positive test.
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EVERY sport is corrupt along with business and politics. Ya wanna shut down everything!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Just your mother's twat USTA, too late! ;D
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...it's time to start protecting local jurisdictions from the big owners.
Wanna protect little guys from big owners? First thing to do would be going back to the rules of the 90's when trainers could have a 1 and a 1A in races unless clear and total separate ownership. Under those rules big stables might have 5 horses with common ownership qualify for a race but they would have to pick two to actually drop in the box. Not many people want to watch a big race with half the entries from one trainer. And not many trainers want to have their one horse racing in a field with 5 horses from one barn either. The large trainer entries work together as a team to set the race up for their "chosen" horse. They can run the little guy out of the gate. Take a sacrifice horse and run him to the half. Hang him out. Box him it. Its just inherently unfair. It should be changed. Doing so would certainly redistribute some talented stock and help prevent the money from using their money to dominate everything pretty much everywhere.
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Wanna protect little guys from big owners? First thing to do would be going back to the rules of the 90's when trainers could have a 1 and a 1A in races unless clear and total separate ownership. Under those rules big stables might have 5 horses with common ownership qualify for a race but they would have to pick two to actually drop in the box. Not many people want to watch a big race with half the entries from one trainer. And not many trainers want to have their one horse racing in a field with 5 horses from one barn either. The large trainer entries work together as a team to set the race up for their "chosen" horse. They can run the little guy out of the gate. Take a sacrifice horse and run him to the have. Hang him out. Box him it. Its just inherently unfair. It should be changed. Doing so would certainly redistribute some talents stock and help prevent the money from using their money to dominate everything pretty much everywhere.
Stop making so much sense.
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Stop making so much sense.
Sorry. Bad habit...
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Wanna protect little guys from big owners? First thing to do would be going back to the rules of the 90's when trainers could have a 1 and a 1A in races unless clear and total separate ownership. Under those rules big stables might have 5 horses with common ownership qualify for a race but they would have to pick two to actually drop in the box. Not many people want to watch a big race with half the entries from one trainer. And not many trainers want to have their one horse racing in a field with 5 horses from one barn either. The large trainer entries work together as a team to set the race up for their "chosen" horse. They can run the little guy out of the gate. Take a sacrifice horse and run him to the half. Hang him out. Box him it. Its just inherently unfair. It should be changed. Doing so would certainly redistribute some talented stock and help prevent the money from using their money to dominate everything pretty much everywhere.
Now just click your heels three times and repeat, "There's no place like home."