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Title: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: LUCPARK on November 15, 2025, 10:15:38 PM
Pls post   Ploppers

I reserve   The right to post in a little while

 tmbz1
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Trigger on November 15, 2025, 10:22:59 PM
Pls post   Ploppers

I reserve   The right to post in a little while

 tmbz1

Worst driver in USA in my lifetime, Michael Forte.

In Canada, maybe not the worst, but on the big circuit, a huge disappointment considering the talent he drives, Jonathon Drury.

The whole Amateur Driving circus in parimutuel races.
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Yonkers1A on November 16, 2025, 06:44:35 AM
Worst driver in USA in my lifetime, Michael Forte.

In Canada, maybe not the worst, but on the big circuit, a huge disappointment considering the talent he drives, Jonathon Drury.

The whole Amateur Driving circus in parimutuel races.

I had a horse with Mike years ago, big Mets fan, he’s a great guy.

Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Trigger on November 16, 2025, 06:49:13 AM
I had a horse with Mike years ago, big Mets fan, he’s a great guy.

Good to know, and glad to hear.

Decent trainer too.

Who was driving the horse?

Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Way to go on November 16, 2025, 07:00:06 AM
Undercover agent for the FEDs.........laug h if you want
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Cashout on November 16, 2025, 08:03:53 AM
 Steve Smith.        Been a bad driver for a long time
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Papillon on November 16, 2025, 09:52:51 AM
Chris Cristoforou

yes--he is a "Hall of famer"

but the last decade or so--he covers up and protects his drives--but almost never aggressively drives or really tries to win

he sits on the cones for 7/8ths of mile with a 3/5 shot--then shows some late foot to get 3rd or 4th--and his best friend(Randy Waples) tells everyone what a great drive he turned in, how smart he was for sitting in the whole mile

sad part is--is many believe that nonsense

does he ever blast the gate and show early speed on anything?--the answer is a resounding NO

when you are 3/5 favorite or less--you are not supposed to sit buried for most of the mile and come home with late pace/trot..well after the race has been decided

HOF driver?--he was 20-25 years ago...but now he protects all of his drives for the next week--only problem is...next week never comes and he buries them on the cones the next week, and the next week, and the next week

why does he protects them?-he never turns in an aggressive drive-he just buries them until its too late on just about every drive

the only way he wins....is when there is a vicious pace duel or boilover..and then he picks them up late

overall, a horrible guy to bet on

as bad as Drury is--is least sometimes he tries to win despite how terrible he is

CC could care less about winning
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: captain morgan on November 16, 2025, 10:21:44 AM
Andy Miller. Just bad
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on November 16, 2025, 10:23:50 AM
His last aggressive drive was when he won the Little Brown Jug in 2000 with Astreos.
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Stan durbread on November 16, 2025, 10:42:45 AM
I agree CC is horrible. He is set for life from inherited money and more to come when the old man passes. But the will say anyone that has bet CC at less than 15/1 last 15 years deserves what they get. I love seeing him on a big favorite easy auto toss
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Trigger on November 16, 2025, 12:22:51 PM
Ok but let's give Mr. I treat every race like a qua CC the benefit of the doubt, he is a left hand whipper  ngc3 unfortunately he shows little to no urging on those head on shots either on live horses ngc3

Seriously wtf, oh it's MST  ;D
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Maury Goldstein on November 17, 2025, 01:00:57 AM
Add Mike Micallef to the list
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Trigger on November 17, 2025, 02:01:47 AM
Add Mike Micallef to the list

Too bad you were betting him this week  ngc3

When a real plopper plays that game on a driver on a cooler, they pay triple digits  ngc3

Your luck is going to change!...Nobody dies of AIDS anymore, too bad, you, a nazi, have a jewish doctor, we're digging your grave, it won't be long now  ;D
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on November 17, 2025, 06:29:37 AM


 Ceba horsey
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Cashout on November 17, 2025, 08:18:26 AM
    Andy Miller has turned into a jumping up and down clown.
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Cashout on November 17, 2025, 08:23:18 AM
     Pat Lachance  definitely not a chip off the old block
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Cashout on November 17, 2025, 08:25:13 AM
     Stacy Chiodo , specializes in making horses go slow
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Cashout on November 17, 2025, 08:28:45 AM
 Juan Franco         Zero talent
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Cashout on November 17, 2025, 08:30:17 AM
    Anyone with the last name Finn
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: MOHAWK FREAK on November 17, 2025, 08:44:32 AM
  Johnathan Ahle.  He has talent BUT drives everything like it’s a Noel Daley super horse.  Can he read a program?
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: wisha roder on November 17, 2025, 06:14:26 PM
     Stacy Chiodo , specializes in making horses go slow
For all the more she drives i always thought she did well considering shes at a premier track driving against better stock and high end trainers and drivers. A lot safer than most drivers out there. Don’t know if she still has record for fastest win ever by female driver.
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on November 17, 2025, 07:22:56 PM
For all the more she drives i always thought she did well considering shes at a premier track driving against better stock and high end trainers and drivers. A lot safer than most drivers out there. Don’t know if she still has record for fastest win ever by female driver.

Off the top of my head, I would guess it would be Lauren Tritton. She won at the Meadowlands in 49 and a piece. Maybe 49 and 2 or 3.
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: seriously on November 17, 2025, 07:33:47 PM
Actually, a very good thread.  The reality is no one outside the sport knows of its existence.  As a result, we get the kids of kids of kids of former horsemen.  The depth of the human talent pool is rather shallow, and there is no one standing in line to take the place of someone that isn't cutting it.  Instead, they stay in the game and add no value. 

And the irony is, many of the people listed are sub-par good drivers.  There are hundreds of others that simply aren't at all good, and could be replaced by millions of other individuals. 
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Trigger on November 17, 2025, 08:04:36 PM
Actually, a very good thread.  The reality is no one outside the sport knows of its existence.  As a result, we get the kids of kids of kids of former horsemen.  The depth of the human talent pool is rather shallow, and there is no one standing in line to take the place of someone that isn't cutting it.  Instead, they stay in the game and add no value. 

And the irony is, many of the people listed are sub-par good drivers.  There are hundreds of others that simply aren't at all good, and could be replaced by millions of other individuals.

Sport  ngc3

Yes, athleticism and skill and strategy and competition.

In arenas that are closing down.  ngc3

Supported by welfare forced on a another predator, generally in the US, Casinos and or the government in Canada.

Where the best of the best who are future HOF's and HOF's ngc3 of what Animal Abuse and Cheating and Drugs and...  ngc3

Top notch oversight & regulatory  tmbz1 ngc3

Sure, it's a WIDELY CONSIDER a sport, not a fucking joke on it's way out?  ngc3

Might as well add Pimping, Bookmaker Collectors, Drug Slingers to that sport category too - they're just as reputable without the phony cover and have much better regulatory.   ;D

Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: toothman on November 17, 2025, 09:53:24 PM
Actually, a very good thread.  The reality is no one outside the sport knows of its existence.  As a result, we get the kids of kids of kids of former horsemen.  The depth of the human talent pool is rather shallow, and there is no one standing in line to take the place of someone that isn't cutting it.  Instead, they stay in the game and add no value. 

And the irony is, many of the people listed are sub-par good drivers.  There are hundreds of others that simply aren't at all good, and could be replaced by millions of other individuals.

 tmbz1
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Ohio Bill on November 18, 2025, 01:57:38 AM
Too bad you were betting him this week  ngc3

When a real plopper plays that game on a driver on a cooler, they pay triple digits  ngc3

Your luck is going to change!...Nobody dies of AIDS anymore, too bad, you, a nazi, have a jewish doctor, we're digging your grave, it won't be long now  ;D
What part of inbred Ohio are you from? 
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Trigger on November 18, 2025, 12:18:24 PM
What part of inbred Ohio are you from?

Ask your mama, we chatted, and she gave me your family's Strawberry Shortcake recipe for Thanksgiving.

All the guys in your family jerk off and cum on your sister's face and your grandmother hits her in the nose with a frying pan.


Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: SPARKS SPECIAL on November 18, 2025, 04:31:46 PM
Ask your mama, we chatted, and she gave me your family's Strawberry Shortcake recipe for Thanksgiving.

All the guys in your family jerk off and cum on your sister's face and your grandmother hits her in the nose with a frying pan.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 highly original 11.wp
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Yonkers1A on November 18, 2025, 04:59:49 PM
Ask your mama, we chatted, and she gave me your family's Strawberry Shortcake recipe for Thanksgiving.

All the guys in your family jerk off and cum on your sister's face and your grandmother hits her in the nose with a frying pan.

One of your better ones
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: wisha roder on November 18, 2025, 10:56:10 PM
Off the top of my head, I would guess it would be Lauren Tritton. She won at the Meadowlands in 49 and a piece. Maybe 49 and 2 or 3.
Chiodo first female driver under 1:50 way back in 2014.  Mighty Joe Young 1:49.3
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: LUCPARK on November 18, 2025, 11:18:28 PM
Kyle husted

Was on his way to becoming something special

Has declined in recent yrs

Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Mrpick5 on November 25, 2025, 11:28:18 PM
Greg Grismore. He always was bad. But now he is pathetic. 150 pounds overweight. Wins maybe 1 race a month. And watching him struggle and get in everyone’s way during a race is comical.
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on November 26, 2025, 01:36:11 AM
Grismore might be pathetic now but wasn't always bad as you say, otherwise how would he have over 8000 wins in his career and 82 so far this year at Northfield?
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: moelarrythecheese on November 26, 2025, 05:22:32 PM
Worst driver in USA in my lifetime, Michael Forte.

In Canada, maybe not the worst, but on the big circuit, a huge disappointment considering the talent he drives, Jonathon Drury.

The whole Amateur Driving circus in parimutuel races.
I've had success betting a Forte trained horse when driven by a catch driver.
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Trigger on November 26, 2025, 05:50:33 PM
I've had success betting a Forte trained horse when driven by a catch driver.

Exactly!  tmbz1
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Black juice on November 27, 2025, 08:18:35 AM
Off the top of my head, I would guess it would be Lauren Tritton. She won at the Meadowlands in 49 and a piece. Maybe 49 and 2 or 3.
With hubbies syringe and needles 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Black juice on November 27, 2025, 08:23:41 AM
Greg Grismore. He always was bad. But now he is pathetic. 150 pounds overweight. Wins maybe 1 race a month. And watching him struggle and get in everyone’s way during a race is comical.


Most UNDERTATED driver in the industry, uses his brain, maybe that’s why you don’t like him, he is patient and doesn’t send them when they are empty, doesn’t beat them, still one of the best will always drive mine 👏
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: Black juice on November 27, 2025, 08:25:43 AM
Grismore might be pathetic now but wasn't always bad as you say, otherwise how would he have over 8000 wins in his career and 82 so far this year at Northfield?

Because that guy saying that is a Degenerate gambler that’s made he list his $2.00 bet 😂😂😂, Degenerates! 😂
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: JL52 on November 27, 2025, 09:00:48 AM
Two comments here. I met Stacy Chiodo in the Yonkers paddock years ago on one of my rare visits to race a horse. She was friendly and surprisingly frank, as she mentioned a very top driver, saying he, more often than not, drove her horses in a very, shall we say, disinterested manner. I wasn’t shocked at the comment, but rather that she said it to me.

Second, go to RedShores racing website, select Racing, and look at the driver profiles and pix. To say some of them are portly, is an understatement.
Title: Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
Post by: rainman2 on November 27, 2025, 08:40:12 PM
Grismore might be pathetic now but wasn't always bad as you say, otherwise how would he have over 8000 wins in his career and 82 so far this year at Northfield?

I believe he failed driving Burke's stock at Yonkers years ago.  I believe he is getting another chance with Burke's stock at Northfield now!
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