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Title: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 12, 2025, 08:49:40 AM
"House Democrats on Wednesday released emails in which Jeffrey Epstein wrote that President Trump had “spent hours at my house” with one of Mr. Epstein’s victims, among other messages that suggested that the convicted sex offender believed Mr. Trump knew more about his abuse than he has acknowledged.

The emails, which they selected from thousands of pages of documents received by their panel, raised new questions about the relationship between the two men. In one of the messages, Mr. Epstein flatly asserted that Mr. Trump “knew about the girls,” many of whom were later found by investigators to have been underage. In another, Mr. Epstein pondered how to address questions from the news media about their relationship as Mr. Trump was becoming a national political figure.

In one email from April 2011, Mr. Epstein told Ms. Maxwell, who was later convicted on charges related to facilitating his crimes, “I want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is Trump.” He added that an unnamed victim “spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned.”

“I have been thinking about that,” Ms. Maxwell wrote back.

In an email from January 2019, Mr. Epstein wrote to Mr. Wolff of Mr. Trump: “Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop.” House Democrats, citing an unnamed whistle-blower, said this week that Ms. Maxwell was preparing to formally ask Mr. Trump to commute her federal prison sentence."
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 12, 2025, 08:57:07 AM
There emails were sent by Epstein, Ghislaine and Micheal Wolff a reporter.

Wolff, Trumps biographer  recently stated there are photos  with Trump with naked girls that Epstein showed him.

You likely know now why the files were never released.  Ghislaine in an unheard move for a sex offender was moved to minimum security prison. She also has been getting favors as a whistleblower has shown in prison all while preparing documents asking for a full pardon.

here is the full document https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/whistleblower-shares-evidence-that-federal-prison-camp-warden-is-pampering-ghislaine-maxwell-maxwell-also-filing-a-commutation-application-with-trump-administration

Mind you this was all reported on in October by the Wall Street Journal far from a left wing Publication.  Only prisoners with connections would ever get these priviledges.

1)Ms. Maxwell’s meals have been customized and prepared by federal prison camp staff and then personally delivered to her in her cell by longtime federal employees;
 
2)When Ms. Maxwell wanted to arrange a private meeting with visitors, including members of her family, the Warden personally arranged it for her—and then provided a special cordoned off area for visitors to arrive, as well as an assortment of snacks and refreshments for her guests;
 
3)Ms. Maxwell’s guests were permitted to bring computers—an unprecedented action by the Warden given the security risk and potential for Ms. Maxwell to use a computer to conduct unmonitored communications with the outside world;
 
4)When the phone lines went down for other inmates at the camp, Ms. Maxwell provided specific instructions about exactly which BOP personnel her contacts should call, and how those BOP personnel would then connect to relay the call to Ms. Maxwell;
 
5)When Ms. Maxwell wanted to review and edit documents quickly, she essentially used Warden Hall as her personal secretary and administrative assistant. Ms. Maxwell’s correspondents would email documents directly to the Warden, who would provide them to Ms. Maxwell, who would then review and edit them and provide them back to the Warden to scan and provide to the original sender. For other inmates, simple mail can take weeks to arrive and is frequently lost;
 
6)an inmate who trains puppies to become service dogs was instructed to provide one to Maxwell for a time so she could play with the puppy, even though neither inmates nor staff are ordinarily allowed to pet the service dogs in training; and,
 
7)When Ms. Maxwell wanted to go to the prison exercise area, she was personally escorted there after hours by prison guards so she could work out by herself and was allowed to enjoy recreation time in staff-only areas.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Kirby's Ace on November 12, 2025, 09:13:44 AM
It's obvious Trump is all over the Epstein files.

One reason for the Maxwell move and her denying anything about Trump being involved. She'll be out within a year or two.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: tumbleweed on November 12, 2025, 09:27:27 AM
This makes sense though why were they not released when the Democrats were in power the last 4 years?
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Yonkers1A on November 12, 2025, 09:35:43 AM
This makes sense though why were they not released when the Democrats were in power the last 4 years?

Neeeded time to fabricate the evidence
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 12, 2025, 09:46:16 AM
This makes sense though why were they not released when the Democrats were in power the last 4 years?

Neeeded time to fabricate the evidence

Reasonable question but These emails dated years ago, they were in his files. nothing fabricated. whoever is guilty deserves what they get, Trump and anyone else included. Can you say that?   
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 12, 2025, 10:14:54 AM
Little baby trump.

Silver spoon in his mouth.

Failure in everything in life.

Tiny penis.

Inferiority complex

Ego-maniacal

Liar and Cheater

Felon

Fucking disgusting pig

Sexual deviant

Finally found success

Turns out America has a bunch of dummies that like that in a leader
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 12, 2025, 11:25:09 AM
Neeeded time to fabricate the evidence


Very possible especially given the Dems had to fabricate The Russia Hoax among other things.
IF they had anything on Trump with Epstein they'd have certainly went balls to the wall with it.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 12, 2025, 11:48:36 AM

Very possible especially given the Dems had to fabricate The Russia Hoax among other things.
IF they had anything on Trump with Epstein they'd have certainly went balls to the wall with it.

The transcripts were released by Trump admin. The emails are from Epstein's trial. Why is Maxwell getting preference in jail.  Stop being a cuck.

 Read the Muller report , it was never a hoax. He said he couldn’t charge a sitting President. You guys will deflect anything for Dear leader. For christ sakes he was his best friend for years.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 12, 2025, 11:49:20 AM

Very possible especially given the Dems had to fabricate The Russia Hoax among other things.
IF they had anything on Trump with Epstein they'd have certainly went balls to the wall with it.

MAGA don't care if Trump fucked boys and girls...he can do no wrong, so why does it matter anyway, he's flawless to y'all.

Until Trump kills all of you, you won't be completely happy!
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Yonkers1A on November 12, 2025, 12:13:38 PM
MAGA don't care if Trump fucked boys and girls...he can do no wrong, so why does it matter anyway, he's flawless to y'all.

Until Trump kills all of you, you won't be completely happy!

You can’t kill me im already dead
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: PIGLAND on November 12, 2025, 01:41:30 PM
Tump loves girls and so do i
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Horseradish on November 12, 2025, 02:45:18 PM
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."

MAGAT's just love watching Trump make other people, especially those that oppose him, as miserable as they are.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Horseradish on November 12, 2025, 03:02:34 PM
Why are WH officials meeting with Lauren Boebert in an effort to get her to not sign the Epstein files petition ??

Nothing to see here. Just ask a Retrumplican.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: SwankToliverA on November 12, 2025, 03:18:33 PM
MAGA don't care if Trump fucked boys and girls...he can do no wrong, so why does it matter anyway, he's flawless to y'all.

Until Trump kills all of you, you won't be completely happy!


You're Wrong Trigger because I believe all pedophiles should be exterminated in the most painful way possible.

The thing with these "Bombshell" emails is, they're not new. The Democrats have recycled emails that have already been made public in the past.
Those same emails in the past did not have any names redacted. However the same emails that the Dems just dropped, redacted Virginia Guiffre's name. The same Virginia Guiffre who testified and stated on multiple occasions that she never saw Trump with underage girls.

Anyway, enough Political Talk, I need to clear my mind for Tonight's Races.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 12, 2025, 03:20:08 PM

You're Wrong Trigger because I believe all pedophiles should be exterminated in the most painful way possible.

The thing with these "Bombshell" emails is, they're not new. The Democrats have recycled emails that have already been made public in the past.
Those same emails in the past did not have any names redacted. However the same emails that the Dems just dropped, redacted Virginia Guiffre's name. The same Virginia Guiffre who testified and stated on multiple occasions that she never saw Trump with underage girls.

Anyway, enough Political Talk, I need to clear my mind for Tonight's Races.

The democrats made trump molest children  ngc3
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 12, 2025, 04:47:05 PM
Meanwhile on fox news website not s top twenty story.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: PineHurstPacer on November 12, 2025, 06:04:05 PM
Certainly sounds bad, but.........

I'd like to know why this wasn't released before the election when Dems had this material.

I do not like Trump, but the radical left will destroy this Country given the chance.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 12, 2025, 06:54:42 PM
Certainly sounds bad, but.........

I'd like to know why this wasn't released before the election when Dems had this material.

I do not like Trump, but the radical left will destroy this Country given the chance.
The real truth is that the Dems could have released all the info during Biden's term. As a GOPer I wanted every name listed to be released. Our liberal friends only want to see Trumps name because they want him to be thrown out. Scumbag Epstein had a lot of powerful friends. I want all the names, those powerful CEO's, sports folks, journalists, entertainment big shots and all those politicos on the list. If President Trump goes down over this, great! I'd love JD Vance in the Big Chair. If Trump goes down, then all those thousands of others go down too!
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 12, 2025, 07:04:09 PM
Most shocking, no Catholic priests on the Epstein pedophile list.  ngc3

Any rabbis?  ngc3
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Foalin at 4 on November 12, 2025, 07:27:36 PM

You're Wrong Trigger because I believe all pedophiles should be exterminated in the most painful way possible.

The thing with these "Bombshell" emails is, they're not new. The Democrats have recycled emails that have already been made public in the past.
Those same emails in the past did not have any names redacted. However the same emails that the Dems just dropped, redacted Virginia Guiffre's name. The same Virginia Guiffre who testified and stated on multiple occasions that she never saw Trump with underage girls.

Anyway, enough Political Talk, I need to clear my mind for Tonight's Races.

   100% tmbz1! These emails have been around for 10 years, if there was anything that could shame President Trump in anyway democrats would have put them 24/7 in their news blender. It just goes to show how low dems are that they redacted Guiffre's name as they try to make it look like some NEW VICTIM just showed up in never before seen emails. 
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 12, 2025, 07:29:15 PM
Most shocking, no Catholic priests on the Epstein pedophile list.  ngc3

Any rabbis?  ngc3
I don't think we'll see any Priests or Rabbis on the list. But I think we'll see some "shockers" on that list. It's going to ruin a lot of lives for so many.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 12, 2025, 07:29:50 PM
Trumps actual future Labor Secretary made the original sweeheart deal in 2008 as a Federal Prosecutor.

"Alexander Acosta, a George W. Bush appointee, served as U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida from 2005 to 2009. In that role, Acosta signed a nonprosecution agreement that "essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe" into Epstein’s alleged sex crimes, according to a 2018 Miami Herald investigation."

 I mean Trump was in power the four years before Biden.  His future cabinet member was the prosecutor who gave Epstein his sweetheart plea deal. He signed his birthday card with a scribbled vagina on it.He has been guilty of sexual assault. Dozens of women have said he sexually assaulted him. . He said grab them by the pussy.  He was Epsteins best friend.  And all you guys keep saying it was the Democrats. 

Hard core MAGA can love him but day by day the optics look worse. His polling numbers are in the toilet Costs are going up. Hispanics are abandoning MAGA in droves. They just got crushed in elections. He is  a lame duck, look for more vengence and lawlessness.

PS -At least 25 to 27 women have publicly accused President Donald Trump of various forms of sexual misconduct, including sexual assault, harassment, unwanted physical contact, and non-consensual kissing or groping

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Kirby's Ace on November 12, 2025, 07:38:51 PM
What's Trumps favorite saying?


Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on November 12, 2025, 08:05:34 PM
Why are WH officials meeting with Lauren Boebert in an effort to get her to not sign the Epstein files petition ??

Nothing to see here. Just ask a Retrumplican.

Boebert is a chickenhead, who jacked off a guy in the middle of Beetlejuice.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 12, 2025, 08:10:55 PM
"Donald Trump is pleading with Republicans not to release the Epstein files.

The president called at least two of his congressional allies on Tuesday in an effort to get them to remove their names from a discharge petition that will force a vote on releasing details of the investigation into the pedophilic sex trafficker and his associates."

That included a “very early wakeup call” to Representative Lauren Boebert, and phone tag with Representative Nancy Mace, The New York Times’s Annie Karni reported Wednesday.

Trump has since met with Boebert, a White House official confirmed to CNN, though the meeting did not successfully sway her. Instead, the Colorado lawmaker “remains committed to keeping her name on the discharge petition,” according to Karni.

https://newrepublic.com/post/203100/donald-trump-lauren-boebert-epstein-files-petition
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Brkn Headpole on November 12, 2025, 08:48:04 PM
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Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Answer on November 13, 2025, 10:18:21 AM
Another interesting one not reported by the TDS media.

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1988731216594637078?s=20
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 13, 2025, 02:32:02 PM
Another interesting one not reported by the TDS media.

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1988731216594637078?s=20

Sounds interesting.  Now I have a question. Who is the President sitting in office now who was best friends with Epstein and currently trying to prevent a vote to release the files?
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Kenny on November 13, 2025, 05:45:17 PM
Little baby trump.

Silver spoon in his mouth.

Failure in everything in life.

Tiny penis.

Inferiority complex

Ego-maniacal

Liar and Cheater

Felon

Fucking disgusting pig

Sexual deviant

Finally found success

Turns out America has a bunch of dummies that like that in a leader

Trump is one of the most successful people in history. He is a self made billionaire and a two term elected president.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 13, 2025, 05:51:48 PM
Trump is one of the most successful people in history. He is a self made billionaire and a two term elected president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItN73Q4VRUU
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 13, 2025, 07:02:16 PM
Trump is one of the most successful people in history. He is a self made billionaire and a two term elected president.

self made...that is funny. he got daddys money went bankrupt and if it wasnt for  the Apprentice would be nowhere.  Now all he does is steal crypto money after pardoning crypto criminals and making deals eith them.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Answer on November 13, 2025, 07:15:22 PM
Sounds interesting.  Now I have a question. Who is the President sitting in office now who was best friends with Epstein and currently trying to prevent a vote to release the files?

If there was enough evidence to convict him of jaywalking the Biden administration would have tried. So obviously this is a nothing burger.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: gogasgoboom on November 13, 2025, 07:29:11 PM
Well he's managed to cover 90% of his head with 30% of his hair. (Christopher Hitchens)
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 13, 2025, 09:45:56 PM
If there was enough evidence to convict him of jaywalking the Biden administration would have tried. So obviously this is a nothing burger.
Like every other attempt to rid themselves of President Trump, this too will fail. I hope they release every file, email, and letter on this matter. If President Trump committed horrible acts, then he must go. To prison. I don't believe he did. Let the Dems prove it. With eyewitness testimony. If they have it, indict him, try him, impeach him, and send him to prison. It wont happen.  But the Dems are allowed to dream.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 13, 2025, 09:59:43 PM
Well he's managed to cover 90% of his head with 30% of his hair. (Christopher Hitchens)

 ngc3

Hair and Make Up  tmbz1 babe, where do they hide them?   
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 13, 2025, 10:36:39 PM
If there was enough evidence to convict him of jaywalking the Biden administration would have tried. So obviously this is a nothing burger.

Yes being best friends with the US most known sex predator is definitely a nothing better. Covering up for him a nothing burger. Spending time with his underage friends a nothing burger. Campaigning on releasing the files and doing everything in his power to stop it is a nothing burger. I agree. 
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 13, 2025, 10:38:33 PM
Like every other attempt to rid themselves of President Trump, this too will fail. I hope they release every file, email, and letter on this matter. If President Trump committed horrible acts, then he must go. To prison. I don't believe he did. Let the Dems prove it. With eyewitness testimony. If they have it, indict him, try him, impeach him, and send him to prison. It wont happen.  But the Dems are allowed to dream.

You lose in the court of public opinion. Many of hos own supporters want the files released. I would expect his poll numbers to go down ever lower and he is -18 already.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 13, 2025, 10:46:21 PM
You lose in the court of public opinion. Many of hos own supporters want the files released. I would expect his poll numbers to go down ever lower and he is -18 already.

Sakit your political polar opposite is a drip, you know who is too?

You must be a barrel of monkeys in life.

How's Hillary's poll numbers doing, she still UP?  ngc3
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 13, 2025, 10:54:28 PM
You lose in the court of public opinion. Many of hos own supporters want the files released. I would expect his poll numbers to go down ever lower and he is -18 already.
The "Court of public opinion", That only matters if he intends to seek political office again. Which he will not. I want the files released too! But as always, he will survive. As for polls numbers, you need to get them right. CNN had his approval ratinging at 36% (Nov. 6-10). Forbes announced he's at 40% approval rating. It's a long way to the mid-terms.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Answer on November 13, 2025, 10:58:13 PM
You lose in the court of public opinion. Many of hos own supporters want the files released. I would expect his poll numbers to go down ever lower and he is -18 already.

You do know Epstein was a democrat and most of the people mentioned in the files will be democrats wether they are innocent or guilty?
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: PineHurstPacer on November 13, 2025, 11:03:05 PM
The Democrats Official Twitter account posted "authentic" text messages showing Trump spent 2017 Thanksgiving with Epstein.

It's now been deleted. 

They won't stop trying to destroy the President, and thus the Country.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 13, 2025, 11:03:21 PM
You do know Epstein was a democrat and most of the people mentioned in the files will be democrats wether they are innocent or guilty?
Do you think these folks care about anyone else on the list? It's only Trump they want! LOL!
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 13, 2025, 11:05:17 PM
You do know Epstein was a democrat and most of the people mentioned in the files will be democrats wether they are innocent or guilty?

Epstein is dead.

Was a liar and a pedophile.

GM is compromised.

She's a liar and pedophile.

No one can corroborate.

Pics and videos can be doctored.

This is dead.  Been dead,  Will always be dead.  No matter what the truth is.

You're all such fools they all give you smoke and mirrors to take you off what they don't want you to see and hear somewhere else.

You fall for it every fucking time.

Just like Musk in government and that fake fight.

MTG drifting from Trump, acting normal, yeh right.

Musk now has the UFO and Extraterrestrial technology the US has had in its possession you idiots.

Trump is his partner.

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: toothman on November 14, 2025, 12:03:49 AM
Well he's managed to cover 90% of his head with 30% of his hair. (Christopher Hitchens)

Is the President, the Speaker and White House senior staff acting like this is a nothing burger?
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: toothman on November 14, 2025, 12:44:04 AM
Like every other attempt to rid themselves of President Trump, this too will fail. I hope they release every file, email, and letter on this matter. If President Trump committed horrible acts, then he must go. To prison. I don't believe he did. Let the Dems prove it. With eyewitness testimony. If they have it, indict him, try him, impeach him, and send him to prison. It wont happen.  But the Dems are allowed to dream.

I haven't been deep diving on this whole deal. i figure the facts and truth will come out soon enough.
And if there are facts warrant an investigation, there will be one.. and  if it means reopenining criminal investigation, then so be it...
I have every expectation that Teflon Don will slither out of this one...
But Doug, youre a smart guy---is he acting like someone with nothing to hide?
meeting with Lauren Boebert and others in the situation oom where no electronic or recordind devices  are allowed?
Oh---statutory rape would certainly qualify as a "high crime".....and I'm no dreamer....
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: PineHurstPacer on November 14, 2025, 03:14:08 AM
Dems may find a way to look like bigger idiots than ever before when this is done.

Trump is sitting back letting them dig their grave.

https://floppingaces.net/most-wanted/hypocrisy-exposed-dems-demand-epstein-transparency-then-block-it-instantly/
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 14, 2025, 09:21:44 AM
Epstein said in one of the emails.  "I know how dirty DO
Dems may find a way to look like bigger idiots than ever before when this is done.

Trump is sitting back letting them dig their grave.

https://floppingaces.net/most-wanted/hypocrisy-exposed-dems-demand-epstein-transparency-then-block-it-instantly/

Giufre said that about Mara Lago that Trump was a perfect gentleman.  I am sure she was at the US most notrious sex traficker and Trump spent hours alone with her probably math tutoring! 

Epstein said in one of the Emails..."I know how dirty Donald is". Also that he put his nose up to the glass and almost walked through it beacuse he got excited how many young girls were in the pool. 

"Trump was the dog that didn't bark."

And all the Emails are still not released, and then he called Lauren Boebert to the situation rooom with Trump, Bondi and Rubio not to sign the discharge petition to release them.

Not to mention that Acosta was the prosecutor and Bondi the Florida AG that gave Epstein him his sweetheart plea.

You do know Epstein was a democrat and most of the people mentioned in the files will be democrats wether they are innocent or guilty?

That is speculation , and if it was true you do know Epstein was TRUMPS BEST FRIEND.  So what is your point, do you think i care what party affiliation.  I think anyone who is guilty should be found guilty.  You think Trump cannot ever be guilty. See the difference?
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 14, 2025, 09:26:11 AM
Anyone who wants to know what is in emails including many other people other then Trump should watch this .

https://www.thebulwark.com/watch?v=178821140
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 14, 2025, 10:13:23 AM
I haven't been deep diving on this whole deal. i figure the facts and truth will come out soon enough.
And if there are facts warrant an investigation, there will be one.. and  if it means reopenining criminal investigation, then so be it...
I have every expectation that Teflon Don will slither out of this one...
But Doug, youre a smart guy---is he acting like someone with nothing to hide?
meeting with Lauren Boebert and others in the situation oom where no electronic or recordind devices  are allowed?
Oh---statutory rape would certainly qualify as a "high crime".....and I'm no dreamer....
I agree toothman. Trump does not act like he has nothing to "worry" about. But there is a big legal difference between knowing that a crime has been committed and actually committing the crime. I don't think for a minute he engaged in these horrible crimes. But I do think he knew of them. The biggest question is when he knew, and how he reacted to the facts. To commit anyone of these horrible acts, the chain of evidence must include some sort of physical evidence, eyewitness testimony, and forensic data. Emails and hearsay would never hold up Infront of an unbiased jury. But I'm a moral man. And I think Trump is an unmoral man. I agree with much of his policy decisions. But on a personal level, I believe he's not a good man. If he did know the events that were happening and said nothing, he must do the honorable thing and step down. But we all know he wont.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Answer on November 14, 2025, 10:40:55 AM
I agree toothman. Trump does not act like he has nothing to "worry" about. But there is a big legal difference between knowing that a crime has been committed and actually committing the crime. I don't think for a minute he engaged in these horrible crimes. But I do think he knew of them. The biggest question is when he knew, and how he reacted to the facts. To commit anyone of these horrible acts, the chain of evidence must include some sort of physical evidence, eyewitness testimony, and forensic data. Emails and hearsay would never hold up Infront of an unbiased jury. But I'm a moral man. And I think Trump is an unmoral man. I agree with much of his policy decisions. But on a personal level, I believe he's not a good man. If he did know the events that were happening and said nothing, he must do the honorable thing and step down. But we all know he wont.

Weinstein, Diddy, Woody Allen, Epstein I would say there were thousands of people that knew what was going on and NOBODY turned any of them in. Does that make it right? No but powerful people just don’t want to get involved.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 14, 2025, 10:45:26 AM
Weinstein, Diddy, Woody Allen, Epstein I would say there were thousands of people that knew what was going on and NOBODY turned any of them in. Does that make it right? No but powerful people just don’t want to get involved.
From a legal standpoint, you can't convict someone for "knowing" something. From a moral standpoint, it stinks. As a President must be held to a higher standard than anyone. If he knew and did/said nothing, he must resign.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Answer on November 14, 2025, 10:48:32 AM
From a legal standpoint, you can't convict someone for "knowing" something. From a moral standpoint, it stinks. As a President must be held to a higher standard than anyone. If he knew and did/said nothing, he must resign.
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Lots knew:

Jeffrey Epstein held a dinner party w/ guests Katie Couric, George Stephanopoulos, Chelsea Handler, Charlie Rose & Woody Allen in honor of Prince Andrew.

Couric said “I didn’t know anything about him at the time”.

This was 18 Months after he was released from prison in 2010
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 14, 2025, 11:16:59 AM
From a legal standpoint, you can't convict someone for "knowing" something. From a moral standpoint, it stinks. As a President must be held to a higher standard than anyone. If he knew and did/said nothing, he must resign.
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Lots knew:

Jeffrey Epstein held a dinner party w/ guests Katie Couric, George Stephanopoulos, Chelsea Handler, Charlie Rose & Woody Allen in honor of Prince Andrew.
 

Couric said “I didn’t know anything about him at the time”.

This was 18 Months after he was released from prison in 2010
So, there will be much to learn from all these famous people. I would subpoena every last one of them. Let them testify under oath.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on November 14, 2025, 11:31:50 AM
i think trump was a federal informant. thats what he doesnt want out.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Horseradish on November 14, 2025, 12:31:43 PM
It's not just about Trump. If he is found guilty he should be prosecuted just like anyone else regardless of who they are.

But even if he's not "proven" to have participated in the Epstein game there are plenty of others that may have that need to be held accountable. That said, Trump is spending a lot of energy protecting someone(s), either himself or others, or both.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 14, 2025, 12:45:34 PM
It's not just about Trump. If he is found guilty he should be prosecuted just like anyone else regardless of who they are.

But even if he's not "proven" to have participated in the Epstein game there are plenty of others that may have that need to be held accountable. That said, Trump is spending a lot of energy protecting someone(s), either himself or others, or both.
I agree with you. I believe Trump did not participate in those evil acts. But the "list" must have some very "famous" folks on it. I guess time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Mazola on November 14, 2025, 01:06:11 PM
I agree with you. I believe Trump did not participate in those evil acts. But the "list" must have some very "famous" folks on it. I guess time will tell.

Al least 28 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. Guilty of falsifying records to hide hush money payment to Stormy Daniels. Guilty of sexual abuse of E.Jean Carroll. This guy would never participate in evil acts  ngc3
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Sakit on November 14, 2025, 01:57:24 PM
All speculation originally posted by a liberal.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 14, 2025, 02:18:59 PM
All speculation originally posted by a liberal.

Yet you believe what is posted about people in harness racing by people who are anonymous..... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: TimTimTimbo on November 14, 2025, 02:48:42 PM
Like every other attempt to rid themselves of President Trump, this too will fail. I hope they release every file, email, and letter on this matter. If President Trump committed horrible acts, then he must go. To prison. I don't believe he did. Let the Dems prove it. With eyewitness testimony. If they have it, indict him, try him, impeach him, and send him to prison. It wont happen.  But the Dems are allowed to dream.

Exactly. that is why I respect you even though we have different political leanings.  For example we know Clinton is on there and if he did underage girls he should pay. Look at Prince effing Andrew. If there is proof, they need to pay. This is about underaged girls getting raped and doing things they are forced to do. Ghislaine Maxwell knows if she talks, she's dead.

Now the Dems have 218 to force a vote which includes a handful of Republicans who are still regular respected ones.  If they vote to get all the files released, Trump can and will veto it but he will look guilty as hell if he does. The fact that they give her a new cushy prison tells you all you need to know. She will keep her mouth shut or she suddenly runs out of breath

This is not going to end well for a whole lot of people
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Brkn Headpole on November 14, 2025, 04:15:35 PM
i think trump was a federal informant. thats what he doesnt want out.

https://x.com/RealFletch17/status/1989326762262536459?s=20

Yes he was an informant and offered money to support the investigation.

Don't people think if they had him by the balls, this would've brought out prior to the elections as an October surprise?

These people are so stupid. All leads back to
Hillary and trafficking kids thru the CF.  Bill was a procurer to blackmail people.  So Epstein is a massive blackmail ring for the CIA/MI6/Mossad to entrap powers of influence.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Brkn Headpole on November 14, 2025, 04:16:50 PM
Anyone who wants to know what is in emails including many other people other then Trump should watch this .

https://www.thebulwark.com/watch?v=178821140

Ummm Wikileaks has been 100% authenticated using Message Header analysis.











Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: dougie on November 14, 2025, 04:17:16 PM
Exactly. that is why I respect you even though we have different political leanings.  For example we know Clinton is on there and if he did underage girls he should pay. Look at Prince effing Andrew. If there is proof, they need to pay. This is about underaged girls getting raped and doing things they are forced to do. Ghislaine Maxwell knows if she talks, she's dead.

Now the Dems have 218 to force a vote which includes a handful of Republicans who are still regular respected ones.  If they vote to get all the files released, Trump can and will veto it but he will look guilty as hell if he does. The fact that they give her a new cushy prison tells you all you need to know. She will keep her mouth shut or she suddenly runs out of breath

This is not going to end well for a whole lot of people
Each day there is a delay in releasing the "list", if there is one ,makes the president look even worse. I think there is little doubt that he must have suspected/realized something was tragically wrong at some point in their friendship. If he didn't actually engage in these criminal acts, which I believe he didn't, he must be held to account on why he didn't bring law enforcement in immediately. You are correct about the many famous people of power now getting ready to be exposed as evil scumbags. And it won't end well for many of them.But to ber convicted of these crime, there must be evidence. In many avenues (ie eye witesses, forensic, sworn testimony, etc.) Emails and rumors will never be enough to convict anyone.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Brkn Headpole on November 14, 2025, 04:25:47 PM
Each day there is a delay in releasing the "list", if there is one ,makes the president look even worse. I think there is little doubt that he must have suspected/realized something was tragically wrong at some point in their friendship. If he didn't actually engage in these criminal acts, which I believe he didn't, he must be held to account on why he didn't bring law enforcement in immediately. You are correct about the many famous people of power now getting ready to be exposed as evil scumbags. And it won't end well for many of them.But to ber convicted of these crime, there must be evidence. In many avenues (ie eye witesses, forensic, sworn testimony, etc.) Emails and rumors will never be enough to convict anyone.

Eventually, everything will go military. All the evidence has been captured in analog ( cannot be edited). The NSA has everything. Unfortunately the wheels of justice grind slow but grind fine. All I can say is that the Epstein files are being used as leverage in peace/business deals with other countries because many of their Heads of State are involved as well. 

What's that saying"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Trump had a role to play by keeping in their social circles. Over 200 generals asked Trump to run for President, I think they had him vetted out first.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 14, 2025, 04:45:59 PM
Eventually, everything will go military. All the evidence has been captured in analog ( cannot be edited). The NSA has everything. Unfortunately the wheels of justice grind slow but grind fine. All I can say is that the Epstein files are being used as leverage in peace/business deals with other countries because many of their Heads of State are involved as well. 

What's that saying"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Trump had a role to play by keeping in their social circles. Over 200 generals asked Trump to run for President, I think they had him vetted out first.

 ngc3

Besides the Headpole is everything in tact?   ngc3

I don't know about world leaders getting Epstein-file-leveraged by the NSA  ngc3, or 200 generals asking a revolting silver spoon fatso felon bone spurs coward to be president  ngc3

But I used the mere mention of the (Epstein) file to blackmail my store grocer for free steak today.  It worked!   ;D
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: toothman on November 14, 2025, 05:02:32 PM
Exactly. that is why I respect you even though we have different political leanings.  For example we know Clinton is on there and if he did underage girls he should pay. Look at Prince effing Andrew. If there is proof, they need to pay. This is about underaged girls getting raped and doing things they are forced to do. Ghislaine Maxwell knows if she talks, she's dead.

Now the Dems have 218 to force a vote which includes a handful of Republicans who are still regular respected ones.  If they vote to get all the files released, Trump can and will veto it but he will look guilty as hell if he does. The fact that they give her a new cushy prison tells you all you need to know. She will keep her mouth shut or she suddenly runs out of breath

This is not going to end well for a whole lot of people

It will end the way it should end for people that did such acts, no matter who they are---as Billy Shakespeare wrote- "...but in the end truth will out"....
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Brkn Headpole on November 14, 2025, 05:15:16 PM
ngc3

Besides the Headpole is everything in tact?   ngc3

I don't know about world leaders getting Epstein-file-leveraged by the NSA  ngc3, or 200 generals asking a revolting silver spoon fatso felon bone spurs coward to be president  ngc3

But I used the mere mention of the (Epstein) file to blackmail my store grocer for free steak today.  It worked!   ;D

https://x.com/LizCrokin/status/1814209431007076822?s=20
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 14, 2025, 05:24:24 PM
https://x.com/LizCrokin/status/1814209431007076822?s=20

OMG, you mean Qanon Liz Crokin, has herpes, has had meningitis, spread Pizzagate....say no more.  ngc3

Well, anyone, and their opinions are welcome at Horseplop, thank god!   ngc3

Jesus fucking christ a good portion of our population must be immediately sterilized, exterminated and hopefully killed.  ngc3

Guess which part?  ;D

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Calhoun on November 14, 2025, 05:27:53 PM
https://x.com/LizCrokin/status/1814209431007076822?s=20
That post is from July, 2024.

Please press Fast Forward .. It will look like this: >> or this FF.

 tmbz1

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 14, 2025, 05:33:04 PM
That post is from July, 2024.

Please press Fast Forward .. It will look like this: >> or this FF.

 tmbz1

She's an advocate for sex crime victims.  tmbz1

One's that don't exist though.  ngc3

But she does fund raise for trumpopotamus.

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Brkn Headpole on November 14, 2025, 05:47:04 PM
That post is from July, 2024.

Please press Fast Forward .. It will look like this: >> or this FF.

 tmbz1

Does that make it any less relevant? It was done way back in Trump's first term, the covert war has been goin since 2012.  Perhaps the military has been patiently giving time for the public to digest the exposure of massive corruption, pedo networks, and many other lies perpetrated.

Here listen to this:

https://rumble.com/v1m2xym-the-real-life-jack-ryan-and-white-hats-stopped-deep-state-and-nwo-from-over.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_upp_a

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 14, 2025, 05:54:11 PM
Does that make it any less relevant? It was done way back in Trump's first term, the covert war has been goin since 2012.  Perhaps the military has been patiently giving time for the public to digest the exposure of massive corruption, pedo networks, and many other lies perpetrated.

Here listen to this:

https://rumble.com/v1m2xym-the-real-life-jack-ryan-and-white-hats-stopped-deep-state-and-nwo-from-over.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_upp_a

I'm not listening.

But excellent.

Now the Antifa's can post their podcasts.

Woo hoo!   ngc3

Fucking next stop dummy central - exterminate them all!  ;D 
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Calhoun on November 14, 2025, 06:22:09 PM
Does that make it any less relevant? It was done way back in Trump's first term, the covert war has been goin since 2012.  Perhaps the military has been patiently giving time for the public to digest the exposure of massive corruption, pedo networks, and many other lies perpetrated.

Here listen to this:

https://rumble.com/v1m2xym-the-real-life-jack-ryan-and-white-hats-stopped-deep-state-and-nwo-from-over.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_upp_a

No it's relevant.  So respect, but ...

Me, I think the current/recent dirt on Trump, Clinton, etc is managed by Putin and Netanyahu.

Covert wars and spy type stuff have been going on forever, I.e., Shoguns and Judas. 

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: The Unstable on November 14, 2025, 06:25:50 PM
Does that make it any less relevant? It was done way back in Trump's first term, the covert war has been goin since 2012.  Perhaps the military has been patiently giving time for the public to digest the exposure of massive corruption, pedo networks, and many other lies perpetrated.

Here listen to this:

https://rumble.com/v1m2xym-the-real-life-jack-ryan-and-white-hats-stopped-deep-state-and-nwo-from-over.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_upp_a

Take off the tin foil.  GEt help. 
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Brkn Headpole on November 14, 2025, 06:27:41 PM
Take off the tin foil.  GEt help.

You have invalid level IQ so this is my last response to you.
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 15, 2025, 01:04:47 AM
You have invalid level IQ so this is my last response to you.

IQ means, Intelligent Quotient


At QAnon we call it, QI, QAnon Intelligence

We also do not score like them because we're anti-establishment, and anti-elitism.

I'm covert, don't take my word for it  tmbz1 Trust The Plan - WWG1WGA
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: SPREE2015 on November 15, 2025, 07:27:45 AM
" I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT LADY "

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Sakit on November 15, 2025, 10:24:31 AM
You have invalid level IQ so this is my last response to you.
I couldn’t agree more that somebody else realizes that he’s borderline imbecile. Think about it what kind of a brain would it take to be Mike’s lackey?
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 15, 2025, 10:35:14 AM
" I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT LADY "

Sorry to hear that  tmbz1
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Calhoun on November 15, 2025, 11:23:59 AM
I couldn’t agree more that somebody else realizes that he’s borderline imbecile. Think about it what kind of a brain would it take to be Mike’s lackey?
Trigger occasionally malfunctions due to his meds... He's generally very solid and is one of very few who offer solid betting opinions. 

He also says far more pussy than most any Plop poster.

Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: wizardofoz on November 16, 2025, 12:36:35 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/DRDnTFbAWFu/
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 16, 2025, 12:47:28 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/DRDnTFbAWFu/

100% true  ngc3

To rehabilitate his image  ngc3

Woody Alan was there with Soon Yi  ngc3

Couric described the mansion's decor as "Eyes Wide Shut with a twist — creepy chandeliers and body-part art" and the atmosphere as "super weird"  ngc3

Him and that cunt Maxwell needed to be murdered a long time ago, democracy, the constitution  ngc3 we're a country of cowards.  ngc3  At least they know to torture terrorist whose plan is about to jump off, we're all ok with that now.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: TimTimTimbo on November 16, 2025, 03:26:52 AM
If Trump did something wrong (Time will tell) then he and his lawyers did a very smart thing

He put it out on a Tweet that he wants Clinton and those investigated and Bond Responded yes she would start one.

1) you can bet if he did wrong she and the DOJ won't investigate that. And if Clinton dd, she also won't investigate that either. She won't investigate anything very hard but what this does is it ALLOWS HER TO REFUSE TO RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES TO ANY ORGANIZATION WHO FOIA'S THE DOJ BECAUSE OF AN ONGOING IVESTIGATION SO the vote in the House and in the Senate will go nowhere because Trump will veto it unless 100 republicans join in which they may well do. BUT the DOJ will tell any judge there is an ongoing investigation and even though the judge will think this is a bunch of lies and bullshit,  he has to take the DOJ at their word.
There s one small problem, The Epstein estate has a lot more evidence they have not released
Title: Re: Trump spent hours with Epsteins lady friends - new emails
Post by: Trigger on November 16, 2025, 06:35:24 AM
If Trump did something wrong (Time will tell) then he and his lawyers did a very smart thing

He put it out on a Tweet that he wants Clinton and those investigated and Bond Responded yes she would start one.

1) you can bet if he did wrong she and the DOJ won't investigate that. And if Clinton dd, she also won't investigate that either. She won't investigate anything very hard but what this does is it ALLOWS HER TO REFUSE TO RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES TO ANY ORGANIZATION WHO FOIA'S THE DOJ BECAUSE OF AN ONGOING IVESTIGATION SO the vote in the House and in the Senate will go nowhere because Trump will veto it unless 100 republicans join in which they may well do. BUT the DOJ will tell any judge there is an ongoing investigation and even though the judge will think this is a bunch of lies and bullshit,  he has to take the DOJ at their word.
There s one small problem, The Epstein estate has a lot more evidence they have not released

Pam Bondi  ngc3 the ho that was taking 25k from Trump (University), when Stormi was getting 130k. 

At least Trump made it right and gave that Katrina dog stealing twat the USAG job.  When she was FL AG it was a woman named Patricia "Trish" Connors, FL ASST. AG, who ran the show, and she must of been real good, a Democrat.

Pam Barbie Blondi couldn't prosecute a traffic summons successfully, and even a worse liar.  She does get credit for the phrase "shit for brains", literally has feces in her skull. 

Fucking America is one tough bitch, they come, they go, and she's asshole resilient.  tmbz1
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