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Title: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: racing123 on November 08, 2025, 09:16:23 AM
Sub 200.000
Tim Carey John Walsh and Jim Miller have managed to to take this place to past the point of embarrassing..
Great job boys....please just cease operations lol
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: Jctoronto on November 08, 2025, 05:43:35 PM
Last night and tonight's Hawthorne Harness cards NOT AVAILABLE for Ontario, Canada HPIBET wagering.
I hear that'll hurt handle too.

WTF
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: racing123 on November 09, 2025, 08:04:41 AM
no surprise JC Toronto....John Walsh has responsibility for the simulcasting....1 00 percent guaranteed he didnt get woodbine what they needed to show hawthorne signal....it's not the first time he's failed to do it...and won't be the last...he's completely incompetent....

i will say at least he'll take your call or respond to his emails....try getting a hold of jimmy miller or tim carey...they never correspond with their customers...simpl y won't answer you....

another sub 200k handle last night....great decision by them to slot their racing on friday and saturday night!!

3 shrewd businessmen!! Casino coming soon though!!  illinois racing board been listening to hawthorne lies for 6 YEARS now...
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: Birdfantammy on November 09, 2025, 09:05:12 AM
Last night and tonight's Hawthorne Harness cards NOT AVAILABLE for Ontario, Canada HPIBET wagering.
I hear that'll hurt handle too.

WTF

https://www.harnessillinois.com/programs

They give free pp's .  But why would you even play this track?
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: Jctoronto on November 09, 2025, 10:36:28 AM
Forget the programs we cant even bet it up here.

Tonight (sunday) more of the same. Entire weekend Canada could not kick in to the Hawthorne Harness pools.

Wonder if HPI and WEG part of the problem. Mohawk running fri sat AND sun nights fir a few weeks
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: sledge hammer on November 09, 2025, 01:36:01 PM
I know they used to owe simulcast partners money so they shut the signal off. Wouldn't surprise me if that's still the case. Then when there's smaller handle, less % or zero coming from CAW's, which in turn erodes the handle even more.
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: Jctoronto on November 09, 2025, 04:28:12 PM
In Ontario tonight, RIDEAU and FLAMBORO have now snowstorm.cancell ed..Mohawk still a Sunday 6:30p go "for now'.

Northfield a Cleveland go. HAWTHORNE WOULD FIT WELL this eve...alas...wage ring not available to Canadians yet again.

Whatever the resson.
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: arniesarmy on November 10, 2025, 12:02:39 AM
The whole state of Illinois is a mess. They couldn't put a roll of toilet paper on the roll correctly.
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on November 11, 2025, 11:04:06 AM
Sad state of affairs. Life support at best. Unfortunately, the entire situation in IL just might be too far gone. Maybe one track can survive, but only with alternative sources of revenue, alternative gaming/wagering, and other lines of business. I'd like to see a real horseman, or group, step up and run with the ball.
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on November 12, 2025, 09:25:25 AM
On another note, Saturday lots of $$$$$ at stake. Where is the fabulous Rollin' Smolin at ? Doesn't have a drive. Last I heard he's selling cars. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: Jctoronto on November 14, 2025, 10:44:17 PM
Hawthorne Harness available signal, programs and wagering in Canada all weekend.
Just 8 races tonight.
Nov 14 15 16
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: racing123 on November 15, 2025, 12:14:28 PM
JC toronto - you didn't bet enough apparently - they handled about 156,000

disgraceful....to o bad you're not in the chicago area - it's illinois super night tonight...you could come out to timmy carey's party where he brings his family ( except for the brother that stole from the business) and all the dignitaries from the illinois racing board,,

let's hope this year there's no fan backlash as there's been in previous years where some fans embarrassed the shrewd businessman mr carey by telling him he's a fuckin goof and that he ruined racing in front of his family...

i think this year fine simulcast director johnny walsh and GM jimmy "in this spot" stick miller will be providing mr carey some security
Title: Re: Hawthorne Opening Night Handle
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 12:18:21 PM
The whole state of Illinois is a mess. They couldn't put a roll of toilet paper on the roll correctly.
that’s what happens when liberals take over a state.
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