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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Mr.Turnpike on November 05, 2025, 07:09:54 AM
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Didn’t do has awesome as everyone thought he would do
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If you're talking earnings, he did 6.2 million in 2024 and already has 6.4 million this year, so he's doing well financially.
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Not my point
He’s very overrated
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Maybe mark should have brought a couple horses with him
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Not my point
He’s very overrated
I think he's underrated. Best ever at 22 years old.
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Not my point
He’s very overrated
A 22 yr old driver making $400,000/yr is very overrated?? ngc3 ngc3
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2025 WDC Point Standings - After Leg 3
1. James MacDonald - Canada - 98
2. Gary Hall Jr. - Australia - 85
3. Michael Nimczyk - Germany - 69
4. Blair Orange - New Zealand - 68
5. Santtu Raitala - Finland - 62
6. Mats Djuse - Sweden - 57
7. Giampaolo Minnucci - Italy - 54
8. Pierre Vercruysse - France - 51
9. Jaap van Rijn - The Netherlands - 51
10. Brett Beckwith - United States - 46
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My assumption would be hes referring to the world driving championship. You must remember your going up against the best in the world. Horses and tracks you've never been to or seen! Also he is only 22! I dont think hes quite ready for the big stage but he's light years ahead of his age and has a very bright future!
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A 22 yr old driver making $400,000/yr is very overrated?? ngc3 ngc3
agreed he’s the only successful Beckwith
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This year, Beckwith has already surpassed last season’s purse total, with $6.41 million, and ranks fourth in North America in wins, with 525. In August, he became the youngest driver to ever win the driving title for the Winter-Spring-Championship meet at The Meadowlands, and he leads the standings at Plainridge Park while sitting second at Saratoga.
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agreed he’s the only successful Beckwith
That is a false statement.
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Way overrated. 5% of six million is 300,000 Time will tell just like the world driving championship is telling.
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Brett was born into and raised in this game. Could be an advantage or disadvantage, LOL. Case in point, John Campbell (and Jim). The other case in point, Josh Marks. His uncle Richie, no offense, came up sitting behind and driving the best bred and highest priced horses money could buy. Sure, he became a "good" driver, but it was over the course of many, many years. By the time Richie was a "good" driver, he was already many years beyond where Brett is today. Today Brett is what, 22? 23? Aside from his stats, he's accomplished a lot as far as a career, already at a very young age. No, he didn't win the Hambo, but he's winning races, competing in a major SS program at various tracks, getting exposure, opportunities, and producing at tracks like the Meadowlands, and so on.
Brett is very young. He may have a lot of opportunities, he may be getting exposure on the some of the big stage-----but not like his uncle did-----but he is still very, very much in the learning stage. I think he has ability, and opportunities aside, he certainly knows how to win races, and he's learning, honing his skills, etc. He's still up and coming, and early at that. It's not like he's permanently based at the Meadowlands, or even on the grand circuit, but he's moving toward. Where he goes, and how he handles his business, potential opportunities, etc., may dictate a lot. Overrated, underrated, whatever. It's in the eye of the beholder, LOL. I don't think that has anything to do with how much he earns, takes home, etc. Talent is talent. Ability is ability. Either you have it or you don't. People use stats to back up an opinion. Perhaps because they don't have the ability to develop and have a quality opinion in the first place. Overrated vs. underrated, I don't think he's either. LOL.
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Way overrated. 5% of six million is 300,000 Time will tell just like the world driving championship is telling.
He's already past 6 mill. But he's on pace to do 8 million x 5% is $400,000. and you dont think he gets any tips? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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That’s great but for as many times he’s chalk he should be winning a lot more
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He's already past 6 mill. But he's on pace to do 8 million x 5% is $400,000. and you dont think he gets any tips? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Just because I'd like to see you suffocated with a pillow, it doesn't mean I don't have feelings for you too. ;D
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Brett is 22 years old....he's acomplished more then some drivers twice his age. Hes driving against 10 of the WORLD'S best drivers in a different country. The driving challenge has just started...instead of knocking his confidence down why not wish him luck, hes representing the USA! I truly hope that those of you who have critized him aren't parents, and if you are shame on you!!
Best of luck to Brett on the remainder of the WDC!!
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Is this Mark or Melissa?
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The kid is getting no stock at all to drive, to be fair
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Is this Mark or Melissa?
Neither. But as a parent I can’t believe some think it’s ok.
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I never criticized him and have no control over what other people have to say. I think it's a great experience for him just to be there, and no one really expected him to win.
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I never criticized him and have no control over what other people have to say. I think it's a great experience for him just to be there, and no one really expected him to win.
Maybe he's one of the best in the US.
If he finishes ahead of anyone it's huge because they're possibly the best in their country.
Not very patriotic for anyone US to shit on the US representing driver.
You set aside all that, and the childish anonymous animosity, may the best man win which we all at times lose to our opponent, gamblers and horsemen...it's a fucked up thing harness racing and we'll get to that.
If the kid's success brings a level of integrity, a new invigorated audience to HR, that's awesome.
If not necessarily he but those that actually ruined the harness game cause it to tap out once and for all, sounds like if he doesn't squander his money, and is healthy, he has a world of options virtually no one his age who didn't inherit it has.
Why do we have jealous twats here then? ;D
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Some of them obviously have lost bets on him because he does lose on alot of favorites as do all good driver because they tend to be overbet. Gambling and discussing politics seem to be out the worst in some people.
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Integrity and Beckwith should not be in the same sentence. Why did his uncle Richie get out of the game?
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Some of them obviously have lost bets on him because he does lose on alot of favorites as do all good driver because they tend to be overbet. Gambling and discussing politics seem to be out the worst in some people.
If we're failing with gambling and politics, let's pray - that should do it!
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Brett is 22 years old....he's acomplished more then some drivers twice his age. Hes driving against 10 of the WORLD'S best drivers in a different country. The driving challenge has just started...instead of knocking his confidence down why not wish him luck, hes representing the USA! I truly hope that those of you who have critized him aren't parents, and if you are shame on you!!
Best of luck to Brett on the remainder of the WDC!!
tmbz1 tmbz1
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That’s great but for as many times he’s chalk he should be winning a lot more
Hogwash! Better than a record clip?? ngc3 ngc3 you're just a hater!
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I've watched a lot of races with Brett Beckwith and I think he's going to become a very successful driver with a long career ahead of him. I too did not jump on thre " BB" wagon initially. But i've seen him win at every track he raced at. Beating the very best and the very worst in this game. So I wish him great luck in the future.
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Just because I'd like to see you suffocated with a pillow, it doesn't mean I don't have feelings for you too. ;D
The trash surface again to reinforce that your a bully with the maturity level of someone in third grade. Tell us again how you know the size of Burke's cock? You should be banded.
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The trash surface again to reinforce that your a bully with the maturity level of someone in third grade. Tell us again how you know the size of Burke's cock? You should be banded.
Tell everybody how I know the size of Burke's cock because you know apparently things I don't and Burke's cock is on your tiny mind and coming out of your mouth constantly here. ngc3
You speak to third graders about sucking cock? - Fucking pedophile! ngc3
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Tell everybody how I know the size of Burke's cock because you know apparently things I don't and Burke's cock is on your tiny mind and coming out of your mouth constantly here. ngc3
You speak to third graders about sucking cock? - Fucking pedophile! ngc3
Everyone hates you! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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He does seem to be significantly better than Tyler Miller, Patrick Ryder, anibal borjas, all the amatuer drivers and marginally better than mark Hershberger and Ahle. Deserving leader driver
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He's only 22 years old. Well spoken and a tireless worker. Drives for the top stables in the country when he leaves his home tracks. He was also chosen to represent the United States against the top drivers in the world. Where finishes is imaterial? Alot is luck of the horse-drawn and the post. BUT HE'S THERE. All the haters and jealous ones should leave him alone. I'll highlight JEALOUS ONES. As a parent myself, I know I would be very, very proud.
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Is this Mark or Melissa?
For someone who claims to be his biggest supporter- this is a stupid thing to say......then you try to backpedal your way out with other posts........
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Neither. You obviously are jealous of his success. Forgot to mention that besides his driving income, he also has ownership in some really nice horses with big-time owners. His success and long-term finances can only get better. What's your claim to fame?
Please detail what your reasoning is for "this is a stupid thing to say". If you need help with writing, please ask others for help.
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The trash surface again to reinforce that your a bully with the maturity level of someone in third grade. Tell us again how you know the size of Burke's cock? You should be banded.
ngc3 ngc3
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That is a false statement.
really? Name me another one in the family that’s been successful.?
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Integrity and Beckwith should not be in the same sentence. Why did his uncle Richie get out of the game?
hence my statement that none of them have been successful
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really? Name me another one in the family that’s been successful.?
Mark is Very successful. Read his stats
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Mark is Very successful. Read his stats
yes Mark did well but where is his money?? I don’t really wanting to answer that. Like I said, this kid is the only successful Beckwith.
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The Pup Brett Beckwith got his 1st win in New Zealand last night, congratulations !
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The Pup Brett Beckwith got his 1st win in New Zealand last night, congratulations !
Yessah, Bub!
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quite an entrance
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1GwY5f5YDz/
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Finally a even money favorite
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Here's the BB win...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5poZOxAJahY&t=2s
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No need I’ve already saw Beckwith parked whole mile and win by ten
Nice drive
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The best young driver ever.....
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Thx for sharing the video.. awesome win for him and seeing the red.white.blue on his back makes it all that much better.
Get a life haters. Great stuff…
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Ya he’s great
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Thx for sharing the video.. awesome win for him and seeing the red.white.blue on his back makes it all that much better.
Get a life haters. Great stuff…
tmbz1 tmbz1 Turnpike is a jealous hater. GET A LIFE LOSER!
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Your kidding right
So in the video you watched was that horse parked every step sometimes 3 wide and win by 10
Where’s the talent??
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The style of racing is totally different over there, horses are parked the mile every race. Even though he was parked most of the race and sometimes 3 wide, he was part of the live flow following other horses who were also parked so it wasn't a rough trip.
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Your a dope
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Your a dope
pacer 2 is like a big crap that streaks the bowl, a minor inconvenience. ngc3
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pacer 2 is like a big crap that streaks the bowl, a minor inconvenience. ngc3
EVERYONE HATES YOU! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Your kidding right
So in the video you watched was that horse parked every step sometimes 3 wide and win by 10
Where’s the talent??
So when another horse wins by 10 its Beckwiths fault right? You're a LOWLIFE LOSER! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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What are you even talking about??
I think your mother is calling you
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What are you even talking about??
I think your mother is calling you
His mama goes by his real name, not pacer 2....Ludwig Von Twatwhisker.
Oops I doxxed him! ;D
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His mama goes by his real name, not pacer 2....Ludwig Von Twatwhisker.
Oops I doxxed him! ;D
EVERYONE HATES YOU! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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EVERYONE HATES YOU! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Now my feelings are really hurt by you, Ludwig Von Twatwhisker!
Not the first 9 literal times you said it to me in the last 2 days, but the 10th time I can take no more... ngc3
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Where is he in the standings?
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Where is he in the standings?
"Addington Raceway in Christchurch, New Zealand will host the sixth and final leg of the WDC — consisting of one heat — on Tuesday, Nov. 11, with first post set for noon local time (6 p.m. EST on Monday, Nov. 10).
The 2025 WDC point standings after the fifth leg are as follows:
2025 WDC Point Standings - After Leg 5
1. James MacDonald - Canada - 164
2. Gary Hall Jr. - Australia - 149
3. Jaap van Rijn - The Netherlands - 140
4. Blair Orange - New Zealand - 131
5. Mats Djuse - Sweden - 125
6. Pierre Vercruysse - France - 117
7. Michael Nimczyk - Germany - 113
8. Brett Beckwith - United States - 103
9. Giampaolo Minnucci - Italy - 95
10. Santtu Raitala - Finland - 95"
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"Addington Raceway in Christchurch, New Zealand will host the sixth and final leg of the WDC — consisting of one heat — on Tuesday, Nov. 11, with first post set for noon local time (6 p.m. EST on Monday, Nov. 10).
The 2025 WDC point standings after the fifth leg are as follows:
2025 WDC Point Standings - After Leg 5
1. James MacDonald - Canada - 164
2. Gary Hall Jr. - Australia - 149
3. Jaap van Rijn - The Netherlands - 140
4. Blair Orange - New Zealand - 131
5. Mats Djuse - Sweden - 125
6. Pierre Vercruysse - France - 117
7. Michael Nimczyk - Germany - 113
8. Brett Beckwith - United States - 103
9. Giampaolo Minnucci - Italy - 95
10. Santtu Raitala - Finland - 95"
It's sad! Whenever I bet McDonald, he never wins for me! LOL!
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It's sad! Whenever I bet McDonald, he never wins for me! LOL!
Every conceivable wager of the final driver standings could of been offered too if it was made part of the mutual pools system.
Not sure if even offshore bookmakers took action on it.
Being a global event could of seen some action.
Gets people involved in international racing, pride for their nation, harness racing overall....the powers to be could care less.
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You guys are right Beckwith not overrated he did beat someone 👍
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You guys are right Beckwith not overrated he did beat someone 👍
I'm guessing he was the YOUNGEST guy in the championship competition you jealous dumb hater!
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People are judging whether he's overrated or not, whether he's successful or not, etc., based upon the WDC, how much money he's earned, his Uncle, how he allegedly responded when someone spoke to him, and so on. Yeah, that's the ticket, LOL.
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Not doing as well when he’s not on the favorite
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Not doing as well when he’s not on the favorite
Beckwith kid appears to be pressing of late The old man's horses, all of a sudden are non existent...he's run out of the "Blood Builder"..horses are horrible, all of a sudden..Guido needs to find him another script with a different Vet..horses that were crushing fields by 5 and 10 lengths, parked the whole mile..can't hit the board...all of a sudden..gotta be tough not being able to use SHEEP WORMER, HORMONES and now EPOGEN..after using it all year on one...
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I'm guessing he was the YOUNGEST guy in the championship competition you jealous dumb hater!
agreed the only successful beckwith
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That didn’t sound like a very good move by the USA
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Not doing as well when he’s not on the favorite
That goes for EVERY driver!! DUUUHHH!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Not doing as well when he’s not on the favorite
Well how many does
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That is something that we don't understand down here. How are guys like Mark still using BB3? After the federal indictments, they didn't come up with a test for that? Obviously, there has been clearance because McCassey started using it again too after going cold and being told to hold off on it. How did these guys do it?
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How would they know what they’re testing for???
Oh thats right Mcassey’s wife works in race office
Can you say conflict of interest?
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That is something that we don't understand down here. How are guys like Mark still using BB3? After the federal indictments, they didn't come up with a test for that? Obviously, there has been clearance because McCassey started using it again too after going cold and being told to hold off on it. How did these guys do it?
If you read Saratoga HOF ceremony thread..it doesn't say Beckwith was purchasing BB3, it shows that he was getting Epogen(the real stuff) through Guido, from Grasso And as far as the rest of your post, these guys give BB3 and Epogen 6 days before the race they're entered in...cant pick it up,Laddie, that far out, unless a jurisdiction is performing Out of State testing..some I'm told ,push the envelope to 5 days
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How would they know what they’re testing for???
Oh thats right Mcassey’s wife works in race office
Can you say conflict of interest?
I believe the wife is listed as Assistant Race Secretary
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If you read Saratoga HOF ceremony thread..it doesn't say Beckwith was purchasing BB3, it shows that he was getting Epogen(the real stuff) through Guido, from Grasso And as far as the rest of your post, these guys give BB3 and Epogen 6 days before the race they're entered in...cant pick it up,Laddie, that far out, unless a jurisdiction is performing Out of State testing..some I'm told ,push the envelope to 5 days
Bingo
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I believe the wife is listed as Assistant Race Secretary
Thank you for clearing that up for me
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Finally back to sensational again him and his dad won a couple at Saratoga
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Finally back to sensational again him and his dad won a couple at Saratoga
Actually, it was Brett and his Mom, she's listed as trainer..Dad is just the groom, who by the way, might just be the FIRST groom ever inducted into the Saratoga Hall of Fame...so kudos to Mark tmbz1
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Now that’s funny but so true
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I believe the wife is listed as Assistant Race Secretary
it is quite crazy how this is allowed … mind boggling actually… employing a wife’s trainer in the race office when the trainer has a stable of 25 horses on the grounds …
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Ahhh much better
Thanks dad
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Actually, it was Brett and his Mom, she's listed as trainer..Dad is just the groom, who by the way, might just be the FIRST groom ever inducted into the Saratoga Hall of Fame...so kudos to Mark tmbz1
Does anyone remember when mark and Melissa were in trouble and they used Brian Madison?
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Brett’s mom is the late Jerry Silverman’ daughter.
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I don't think it was Brian Madison It was his brother Bruce
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Bruce Mattison
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Give credit where credit is due..won 5 in the meadowlands last night tmbz1...heeee's Back!.....