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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 04, 2025, 09:24:11 PM
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Just ask him.
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tmbz1
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Ask Calhoun Anything
tmbz1
What's your name and address.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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tmbz1
Why can tbreds come first over on the outside without fading but sbreds usually fade?
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My daughter says not to answer questions from a bonkers Fuck-Up guy who does not go to his own daughter's wedding.
She wants to know what went so very wrong with you and your child.
She also says she will pray for you.
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My daughter says not to answer questions from a bonkers Fuck-Up guy who does not go to his own daughter's wedding.
She wants to know what went so very wrong with you and your child.
She also says she will pray for you.
Sure she did. Like everything else you "type". Internet troll fantasies...
Now, post your name and address. tmbz1
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Nearly a decade ago you said HP was useless.....yet here you still are!!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
(https://i.ibb.co/35bxxjBR/Cal-HP-Useless.png) (https://ibb.co/SDgkkMRf)
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Why can tbreds come first over on the outside without fading but sbreds usually fade?
Hello and thank you for your interesting question. '
I believe the following are factors:
1. There is far more wind resistance to the 1st over in a SB race compared to a TB ... a la NASCAR
2. 1st over in a TB race, just off the pace, replicates training works. It is the racing position most favorable and they are trained for it.
3. More SB races are won wire to wire than 20-30 years ago. They don't stop on the front end as frequently now, so EVERY other spot seems worse now, not just the 1st overs.
4. The passing lane effects pace dynamics differently than back in the day. Q's going Fast/Slow/Slow/Fast has always been but it's more pronounced now and that adds to the frontrunner advantag
tmbz1
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Hello and thank you for your interesting question. '
I believe the following are factors:
1. There is far more wind resistance to the 1st over in a SB race compared to a TB ... a la NASCAR
2. 1st over in a TB race, just off the pace, replicates training works. It is the racing position most favorable and they are trained for it.
3. More SB races are won wire to wire than 20-30 years ago. They don't stop on the front end as frequently now, so EVERY other spot seems worse now, not just the 1st overs.
4. The passing lane effects pace dynamics differently than back in the day. Q's going Fast/Slow/Slow/Fast has always been but it's more pronounced now and that adds to the frontrunner advantag
tmbz1
Hmmm. You mention the front end doesn't stop as frequently as they used to, yet you also state the horse first over gets the most 'a la NASCAR' wind resistance. Then explain the horse cutting the mile obviously uncovered. Aren't you contradicting your own statement? Add in the fact that horses burst off second over because they do in fact enjoy a 'draft' that the horse on the front or first up doesn't. Also, what about track size? I don't see any t-breds racing on a half where first up or parked is by far the toughest in harness racing. The additional distance on short tracks doesn't come into play? And it's not just the width of a horse like in the flats. Please clarify this AND explain why you are scared to death of me....sissy boy. ngc3
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Hmmm. You mention the front end doesn't stop as frequently as they used to, yet you also state the horse first over gets the most 'a la NASCAR' wind resistance. Then explain the horse cutting the mile obviously uncovered. Aren't you contradicting your own statement? Add in the fact that horses burst off second over because they do in fact enjoy a 'draft' that the horse on the front or first up doesn't. Also, what about track size? I don't see any t-breds racing on a half where first up or parked is by far the toughest in harness racing. The additional distance on short tracks doesn't come into play? And it's not just the width of a horse like in the flats. Please clarify this AND explain why you are scared to death of me....sissy boy. ngc3
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yonkers today drives like the Yonkers of old, however when the first purse spike from the casino cash, from those dead ass purses, the first over move was the winning one, and trainers were ready and the drivers executed it well for quite sometime.
Then the playing field leveled.
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Nearly a decade ago you said HP was useless.....yet here you still are!!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
(https://i.ibb.co/35bxxjBR/Cal-HP-Useless.png) (https://ibb.co/SDgkkMRf)
I never said useless.
I said "Worthless."
Call your daughter. It's never too late.
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Hmmm. You mention the front end doesn't stop as frequently as they used to, yet you also state the horse first over gets the most 'a la NASCAR' wind resistance. Then explain the horse cutting the mile obviously uncovered. Aren't you contradicting your own statement? Add in the fact that horses burst off second over because they do in fact enjoy a 'draft' that the horse on the front or first up doesn't. Also, what about track size? I don't see any t-breds racing on a half where first up or parked is by far the toughest in harness racing. The additional distance on short tracks doesn't come into play? And it's not just the width of a horse like in the flats. Please clarify this AND explain why you are scared to death of me....sissy boy. ngc3
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yonkers today drives like the Yonkers of old, however when the first purse spike from the casino cash, from those dead ass purses, the first over move was the winning one, and trainers were ready and the drivers executed it well for quite sometime.
Then the playing field leveled.
Shopping Cart Mike,
The Nascar effect is simple. Watch and see when a car directly behind the leader pulls out '1st over' ... there is a clear effect. You don't believe it, IDC.
Different size tracks? ... what about them. On 5/8ths, outer flow (2+ outside) started at/before 3/8. Now it forms later. jmmvhmfo. You also now see near zero pocket horses pull at the 1/2 on short tracks. 3/5 shots now stay in and either follow Less likely to stop leaders or wait for the pass lane. They now nearly always get out/pass on the inside. If you were at the track and a 3/5 pocket stayed in at the half, you'd hear the crowd moan and cry fix.
2nd over on 1/2s is now far less likely to win than 20-30 years ago.
I've given you more of my precious time than you merit.
I wish you'd spend more time on your own family than mine.
Call your daughter.
It's never too late.
Pray more.
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Trigger,
Which Yonkers? The one with the now gone passing lane? The one with the untimed start with another 50 yds (or whatever it was/is)?
These things affect pace/trip greatly. Add to it that horses 'just don't stop.'
my worthless 2c
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How's this possible??? The sissy who hangs on my every word and move has me on IGGY, right? Yet manages to get up for his 8 to 5 right on time! Again! To post on Horseplop, let that sink in. You can smell his misery with each pixel he creates, for over a decade. Just look over his post history, a lesson in envy, racism and hatred. And like a boomerang he comes back for more. Can you imagine him sitting there scared to death of me trying to convince himself he's someone making a difference??? GET TO WORK a clock in sissy boy! Maybe your "accountant" will send you another letter.... ngc3
P.S. You still haven't posted your name and address.... tmbz1
And are you hearing voices in your head? I never mentioned your family sissy boy. Try again.
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Ask Calhoun Anything
tmbz1
What is your name and address
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What is your name and address
Mike,
Stop. It's not working.
Nobody cares. You just look silly and desperate.
Focus on your family and faith.
Call your child.
It's never too late.
Pray more.
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Mike,
Stop. It's not working.
Nobody cares. You just look silly and desperate.
Focus on your family and faith.
Call your child.
It's never too late.
Pray more.
Bahahahaha...wron g.
This infatuation you have with my daughter? Sick.
But if you must know, she just started her first job teaching. AND is sick as a dog, was complaining the kids got her sick the first day. And just like her Dad she put her Christmas tree up Saturday right after Halloween. What else do you need to know? And why aren't you telling people the truth, how you feel I "wronged" you and why you are so afraid of me....tick tock tick tock tmbz1
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Shopping Cart Mike,
The Nascar effect is simple. Watch and see when a car directly behind the leader pulls out '1st over' ... there is a clear effect. You don't believe it, IDC.
Different size tracks? ... what about them. On 5/8ths, outer flow (2+ outside) started at/before 3/8. Now it forms later. jmmvhmfo. You also now see near zero pocket horses pull at the 1/2 on short tracks. 3/5 shots now stay in and either follow Less likely to stop leaders or wait for the pass lane. They now nearly always get out/pass on the inside. If you were at the track and a 3/5 pocket stayed in at the half, you'd hear the crowd moan and cry fix.
2nd over on 1/2s is now far less likely to win than 20-30 years ago.
I've given you more of my precious time than you merit.
I wish you'd spend more time on your own family than mine.
Call your daughter.
It's never too late.
Pray more.
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Trigger,
Which Yonkers? The one with the now gone passing lane? The one with the untimed start with another 50 yds (or whatever it was/is)?
These things affect pace/trip greatly. Add to it that horses 'just don't stop.'
my worthless 2c
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Trigger,
Which Yonkers? The one with the now gone passing lane? The one with the untimed start with another 50 yds (or whatever it was/is)?
These things affect pace/trip greatly. Add to it that horses 'just don't stop.'
my worthless 2c
I believe it was October of 2006 when the casino money starting exponentially raising the purses.
It seemed to be the style of racing needed to be done to win.
So no matter who went out and how slow they went on the front end, the horses just passed them and typically won.
I thought it was impressive that certain trainers saw that opportunity,had the horses trained (possibly juiced too), and the rivers executed the move successfully. Where as it was considered in the past almost a dead move unless it was a monster already with 2+ secs on them.
These horses were generally at the same level as the competition yet ready to roll with program.
I had no idea the passing lane was gone until you said, I bet them rarely and not regularly the last 20 years... ngc3
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So you're replying to yourself now?
Lord help us!
ngc3