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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: littlebitbrown on November 03, 2025, 06:08:47 PM
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I am not great at math but looks like determination spent some money opening day. Who is Torgier Haggman?
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Lets see how far they have to dig to find anything positive about todays showing. .. errrr sale…. Burke buying first day yearlings for $12, $20 and $25,000. One at $250 another @ $140. A few of the big spenders still banging away. But looked quiet to me.
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I am not great at math but looks like determination spent some money opening day. Who is Torgier Haggman?
Tor Hagmann is a bloodstock agent. Does a lot of work for Kjell Andersen, who he bought this filly for.
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I'll be there Saturday with some of my homies.
Wagner, Millman, Wisher, Braden. Horsey (needs some new whips). Taylor said he needs some partners so we're all going! Look us up
Morgan will be out in the parking lot doing pre sale injections and nerve blocking on those lame last minute consignments.
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I don't think they can dig that deep, LOL.
They can fluff up the #'s and portray them positively, but I don't think the results were good. The best of the best sold the best. Always does. That's the highest end of the market and they will distort the rest of the market and the rest of the #'s. Below that, and most of all, the pig in the python is just not there. There is no more mid-level market.
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Just checked.....today's total had 170 go through the ring, for an average of $95,841.
Last year, opening day had 150 go through the ring, for an average of $110,387.
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Stop the complaining already! Every year these breeders think the prices can keep going up astronomically for yearlings that are overpriced to begin with. 50% don't even make it to the races and once the huge priced ones bomb you never hear any apologies to the buyers because it is all luck for the most part on which ones turn out OK. They should be happy they did over $16 million again.
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Great sale I will be heading there Friday
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Tor Hagmann is a bloodstock agent. Does a lot of work for Kjell Andersen, who he bought this filly for.
Who will be trainer
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why pay $300k or more for one when you can get almost the same pedigree and conformation for $75k
you have a better chance buying 2 or 3 for $75 k than one show stopper
you can look at the pedigree and the horse but you cant measure their willingness to race and win
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What's Andrew Harris ROI over the last 3 years ?
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ROI on yearling purchases is abysmal. Sooner or later they will pull the plug on this fiasco.
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Great sale I will be heading there Friday
Just you or is your partner coming ?
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All you jerks do is complain about every thing and every one and your all no bodies,
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All you jerks do is complain about every thing and every one and your all no bodies,
we all cant be someone like you, you need your garbage picked too, probably by a no body
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The Stable get a Walner colt out of Hannelore Hanover for 27000. How many legs did it have.
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The Stable get a Walner colt out of Hannelore Hanover for 27000. How many legs did it have.
Knowing that moron, he probably thought it was a filly. Or maybe it was his wife's top pick. Or it fit a bucket perfectly. He is without question the most obnoxious guy in the game.
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Pelling is buying quite a few. Many of them are $50k and below
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Trunk doctor will be there selling the new improved BB3! IF you thought that BB3 was some good shit wait till you get some BB4! Come early as supply is limited!
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Just you or is your partner coming ?
Yes 73cv.2
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Knowing that moron, he probably thought it was a filly. Or maybe it was his wife's top pick. Or it fit a bucket perfectly. He is without question the most obnoxious guy in the game.
After I saw the price and then saw Anthony bought it I couldn’t help myself I had to watch the video. Same ol shi$, it’s really mind boggling that he thinks he got a steal, it didn’t have to look great for Burke to throw $30k and take a shot but he didn’t so there is. I way I would be rooting my horn like he does. In fact if I liked the colt and the bud was stalling at $25k I’d quit bidding. You are correct he is as obnoxious as they come, but how stupid are these people that keep believing this crap. Keep Sri king the kool aid.
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Anything below the very top tier is weak. What used to be the middle market is very weak. There is a lot of value in the 25k to 50k market, even up to say 75k. A lot of horses selling for 100k now used to sell for 150k, even more. There are some smart buyers out there. Some of the commercial breeders are getting stung a bit. You simply can't sell a yearling for $25k and make money.
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Anything below the very top tier is weak. What used to be the middle market is very weak. There is a lot of value in the 25k to 50k market, even up to say 75k. A lot of horses selling for 100k now used to sell for 150k, even more. There are some smart buyers out there. Some of the commercial breeders are getting stung a bit. You simply can't sell a yearling for $25k and make money.
what a blood bath, indicative of how weak the game really is. Owners simply getting destroyed for too long and eventually say enough is enough.
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the big owners with money only want the best and will pay for it , even if that does not lead to success on the track or financially, they are not in it to do "okay", they want champions, so they avoid most of the ones that are going for under $100k which creates a vacum and those horses sell for $50 k which is a decent deal for the buyers
as for the stable and Hannelore hanover foal( and others) ,he buys the ones that his pigeons will recognize and buy up and pay the training bill and if amac gets lucky than so be it, if not than move on
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harness racing is thriving though.
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They'll paint a pretty picture on today's results, something like it was up over last year, but today's numbers were again not good. Today's average was under $17k. The average only tells you so much, and while it's more accurate on a day like today as opposed to day one, if you really want to see raw #'s, look at the median, and also take out the top few sellers (which distort the #'s). No breeder is making money selling $17k yearlings.
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The yearling portion of the Standardbred Horse Sale overall for its three days saw 864 yearlings pass through the auction ring for a total of $36.03 million, an average of $41,701. Last year, the sale totaled almost $37.1 million, an average of $42,830. Compared to 2024, this year was down 2.86 percent in gross and 2.63 percent in average, but the average rebounded significantly after being down nearly 13.2 percent after the opening session on Monday. The third session this year totaled $5.43 million for 323 yearlings, an average of $16,830. Last year’s third session totaled $5.56 million for 337 yearlings, an average of $16,499.