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		General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: mwins on November 02, 2025, 11:01:52 AM
		
			
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				....about a week too late.
			
 
			
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				You're probably right, but what a great career. She went so big miles through her career......was very entertaining.  You obviously never know but should make a good broodmare.    I wonder who she'll go to....Cattlewash??
			
 
			
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 I wonder who she'll go to....Cattlewash??
It's likely to be an Ontario stallion because the border might get tighter before it gets looser. Cattlewash if they stay home. Sweet Lou if they go afield.
			 
			
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				always interested to see how these mares that were raced hard do as broodmares
she is from a very good maternal family and a half sister to western fame 
her half sister amerway has been an excellent producer 
we shall see  
			 
			
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				Great career tmbz1 Hope she has lots of good looking babies.
			
 
			
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				A very good horseman told me years ago. Beware of those mares that race like geldings. Buy one out of a sister instead. That theory works more often than not. 
			
 
			
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				Why not Bull Dog? Stan that theory is pretty accurate. Daughters of top mares their foals usually pan out.  
			
 
			
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				Was very hard on herself with the way she chose to race.  Those kind of miles add up.  
Aged pacing made division is poo
			 
			
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				Article doesn’t say if she was sold or if they are keeping her. For the most part Steacy tends to sale and not breed. If sold I would expect to see her go too an American stallion in PA. For duel eligibility maybe Ohio but even with the inflated prices their this year Ohio is still a little behind others 
			
 
			
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				Tony Infilise has been in the game for a long time. He's had more success recently and he's playing the game at a higher level now than before. If the # is right, he'll sell, but it will have to be a big # or else he has no problem keeping her. He'd prefer to. After the stallion question comes the question of-----does her sell the foal or not, LOL. He'll talk to his advisors and go from there. The plan was to send her to Kentuckiana Farms.
			
 
			
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				"While most findings were positive, an injury to her collateral ligament was discovered, requiring approximately four months of rest. Although her prognosis for a racing return was favorable, we have chosen to retire her now
and look forward with great excitement to cheering on her future foals."
Listening carefully to y'all and respecting your expertise, and reading between the lines here, and the word "now" was not necessary, I think a tell, yeh, she is going to un-retire.
I think they're testing the market, if she's sold, can't she still race for the new owner if she's sound?  
What kind of odds should I get on that prediction, when un-retiring would be accurate?
			 
			
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A very good horseman told me years ago. Beware of those mares that race like geldings. Buy one out of a sister instead. That theory works more often than not.
Agree… if and when she has a full sister she will be better than the great race mare.  But, her first couple foals will be hyped and sell well..  
			 
			
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always interested to see how these mares that were raced hard do as broodmares
she is from a very good maternal family and a half sister to western fame 
her half sister amerway has been an excellent producer 
we shall see 
she only had 53 lifetime starts 
I don’t think she was over raced personally 
			 
			
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				She deserves the best 
			
 
			
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She deserves the best
 ngc3
Insightful  ngc3
More like shallow and dishonest, considering you're on the attack of an animal advocate herein that actually knows and does what's best for all horses, including the retired.
Can you try harder to not be a contradicting idiot?  ;D
			 
			
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she only had 53 lifetime starts 
I don’t think she was over raced personally
 Did you watch any of those 53 starts almost all with brutal trips,     This horse was way over raced
			 
			
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				I did. I predict it will have zero to little impact on her broodmare career 
			
 
			
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				I don't consider Sylvia overraced, because she wouldn't allow it. That mare is too smart for her own good and acted like one who could smell blood in the water, so to speak, and never saw a horse that expended less unnecessary energy.
She only did enough to win and IMO if she didn't think she could, she didn't really try. At least that's the impression she left me with.
			 
			
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I don't consider Sylvia overraced, because she wouldn't allow it. That mare is too smart for her own good and acted like one who could smell blood in the water, so to speak, and never saw a horse that expended less unnecessary energy.
She only did enough to win and IMO if she didn't think she could, she didn't really try. At least that's the impression she left me with.
 ngc3
Funny you should say  ngc3... Sylvia Hanover tutored my neighbor's daughter with her calculus homework... ngc3
			 
			
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I don't consider Sylvia overraced, because she wouldn't allow it. That mare is too smart for her own good and acted like one who could smell blood in the water, so to speak, and never saw a horse that expended less unnecessary energy.
She only did enough to win and IMO if she didn't think she could, she didn't really try. At least that's the impression she left me with.
Good observation 
			 
			
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"While most findings were positive, an injury to her collateral ligament was discovered, requiring approximately four months of rest. Although her prognosis for a racing return was favorable, we have chosen to retire her now
and look forward with great excitement to cheering on her future foals."
Listening carefully to y'all and respecting your expertise, and reading between the lines here, and the word "now" was not necessary, I think a tell, yeh, she is going to un-retire.
I think they're testing the market, if she's sold, can't she still race for the new owner if she's sound?  
What kind of odds should I get on that prediction, when un-retiring would be accurate?
30/1 she never races again. You pick the price and I’ll print the ticket 
			 
			
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30/1 she never races again. You pick the price and I’ll print the ticket
Couldn't agree more.
			 
			
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30/1 she never races again. You pick the price and I’ll print the ticket
First things first...
What's the time frame she has to unretire?
Do you want to go cash, I'll go a C, or could go non cash and something like if I win I have to change my screen name to SylviaPlop for a week, you for 30 weeks?
			 
			
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				Tony said what he said just in case, so that if someone comes along and wants to offer him enough to make him sell-----he's thrown it out there that she can come back and the new buyer doesn't have to retire her, and can put her back into training. Why wouldn't he say that, LOL. 
			
 
			
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Tony said what he said just in case, so that if someone comes along and wants to offer him enough to make him sell-----he's thrown it out there that she can come back and the new buyer doesn't have to retire her, and can put her back into training. Why wouldn't he say that, LOL.
I'm getting 30-1 and happy as a clam though Stan has left the building before finalizing the terms.
			 
			
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				She retires in 6 months from the bet date I win, 6 months and 1 day from the bet date he wins.
How's that Stan, are you ready to set that date, are you good with my $100 against your $3000?
Who is escrowing the wager?
Or do you want to do that non cash thing?