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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Grandstand Handicapper on October 27, 2025, 09:32:10 PM
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From HRU, an excerpt from Gural's letter/response.....
"As far as getting a casino at The Meadowlands, I believe that there is a 95 per cent chance that the referendum will be approved and we will be able to open a temporary casino at The Meadowlands in late 2027 and a full casino in late 2028. I would like to say that I am 100 per cent certain but I have learned the hard way that nothing is 100 per cent certain.....My plan if we do get a casino, which I think is virtually a certainty, would be to significantly increase our purses including stakes, eliminate the drag, reduce the number of races by adding a third day and make a major effort to focus on trying to get young people interested in our product. It may be impossible, but with a casino at least I will have the money to try, and by eliminating the drag it should help make the on-track product more enjoyable as no one likes a seven-to-10-minute drag. In any case I want to assure anyone going to Harrisburg to look at yearlings they should not hesitate to purchase a New Jersey-bred as I am virtually certain The Meadowlands will be thriving in two or three years."
Wishful thinking? Deductive thinking?
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Let’s hope he’s right , A casino would really right the ship
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Our gift to the seniors who built this country.
All the ones depressed, ailing can go blow their money on a slut machine. Every other dweeb into fixed games and where they can blacklist you for legally counting cards, a skill.
Fine fucking work Gural, what would the world do without you? ngc3
A billionaire that has to find a different way to prey on people to get something to work that's going extinct.
Not shut this shit down and get it corrected.
Fuck it all! ;D
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Let’s hope he’s right , A casino would really right the ship
Recent polling in Jersey for the Meadowlands makes it look like a "toss up" for Gural to get his wish. Strong lobbying by Atlantic City and NY interests will put a lot of money to defeat the issue when it goes to the voters.
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From HRU, an excerpt from Gural's letter/response.....
"As far as getting a casino at The Meadowlands, I believe that there is a 95 per cent chance that the referendum will be approved and we will be able to open a temporary casino at The Meadowlands in late 2027 and a full casino in late 2028. I would like to say that I am 100 per cent certain but I have learned the hard way that nothing is 100 per cent certain.....My plan if we do get a casino, which I think is virtually a certainty, would be to significantly increase our purses including stakes, eliminate the drag, reduce the number of races by adding a third day and make a major effort to focus on trying to get young people interested in our product. It may be impossible, but with a casino at least I will have the money to try, and by eliminating the drag it should help make the on-track product more enjoyable as no one likes a seven-to-10-minute drag. In any case I want to assure anyone going to Harrisburg to look at yearlings they should not hesitate to purchase a New Jersey-bred as I am virtually certain The Meadowlands will be thriving in two or three years."
Wishful thinking? Deductive thinking?
If Gural is 95% sure I'm 100% sure. Harness racing is thriving!
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If Gural is 95% sure I'm 100% sure. Harness racing is thriving!
Greatest show on Earth! ngc3
An entire 30 billion dollar industry that has imploded on itself to the point that it ONLY survives on a forced subsidy on a equally assinine predator, casinos. ngc3
7 miles below hell and still plunging. ngc3
You're a laugh riot! ngc3
How do you bounce so steadily from every scumbags taint...Burke to Gural to every other corrupt slob...how do you do it? ngc3
How I hope those guys are really your friends because I'm going to fuck them and theirs in their asshole until it gapes, permanently! ;D
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thank you trigger for the insightful comments
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Greatest show on Earth! ngc3
An entire 30 billion dollar industry that has imploded on itself to the point that it ONLY survives on a forced subsidy on a equally assinine predator, casinos. ngc3
7 miles below hell and still plunging. ngc3
You're a laugh riot! ngc3
How do you bounce so steadily from every scumbags taint...Burke to Gural to every other corrupt slob...how do you do it? ngc3
How I hope those guys are really your friends because I'm going to fuck them and theirs in their asshole until it gapes, permanently! ;D
You need to get a life. Posting your garbage on here 24/7 isnt earning you any money and isnt memorable! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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You need to get a life. Posting your garbage on here 24/7 isnt earning you any money and isnt memorable! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
96z.p
All your stupid posts will have cemented the legacy of your failure.
Soon you'll have nothing to talk about.
Tic toc.
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I’m not sure why Gural seems so optimistic with a Meadowlands casino. Was voted down years ago and I don’t see what has changed voters minds to now vote yes (NJ is corrupt like no other so must be stuff behind the scenes we don’t know about). Let’s just say he gets casino approval, is he going to put it on 3rd floor where Trotters and Pink are? Build an attachment on to Fanduel/track building?
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96z.p
All your stupid posts will have cemented the legacy of your failure.
Soon you'll have nothing to talk about.
Tic toc.
Fuck them all trig, keep firing
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Jeff has political connections. We will see if he's right. I agree with Jeff's stance. The Hambletonian Society looks dumber and dumber. 2026 BC at Scioto and 2027 at the Red Mile. It is obvious the facility and handle means little to them. Now the Society is going to move the sports biggest race where?
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I’m not sure why Gural seems so optimistic with a Meadowlands casino. Was voted down years ago and I don’t see what has changed voters minds to now vote yes (NJ is corrupt like no other so must be stuff behind the scenes we don’t know about). Let’s just say he gets casino approval, is he going to put it on 3rd floor where Trotters and Pink are? Build an attachment on to Fanduel/track building?
It will be a closer vote than last time due to the economic issues facing NJ voters. The promise of good paying casino jobs and more money going into the state's treasury might get Gural over the finish line this time.
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Jeff has done wonders he deserves all the accolades
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Jeff has done wonders he deserves all the accolades
ngc3 11.wj
You're a loser, and until Jeff agrees that harness racing needs to be overhauled, shut down during, he, you and everyone on that side can go fuck themself and drop dead too along with your investment if any in this BIZ.
Sick of ya! ngc3
My job is easy, just point and prove to the legislators in every state, and prove their regulatory is as corrupt as a 3 dollar bill.
Canada will be a special undertaking.
Nothing like major media in tow watching and listening and bringing their own experts in, racing, legal.
I'm going to fuck you people up, hopefully it will be WE HERE because there are others here too that want the same, and have greater expertise than me in some areas, and seek mutually beneficial solutions.
The silent cowardly honest horsemen, stay anonymous fine but start chiming in because I speak from a gamblers perspective, like Mike speaks for animal welfare perceptive, what's your perspective - what do you want and what are solutions you seek?
Jeff wants old grandma money so he can save something in NJ deservedly going extinct as a whole in NA based on its current corrupt character and failing product!
It's on November 2, 2025, and until then it's strongly suggested Jeff Gural start an account here and start talking. Don't allow a little twerp like ballsakit, and assaloon Pacer 2 speak for you. What a clown car of supporters ;D
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Jeff has done wonders he deserves all the accolades
I was with my wife opening night at the Meadowlands in 1976. Must have been about 40,000 there that night. I remember they ran out of ice cream sandwiches after the 5th race. LOL! Horseman shipped in from everywhere looking for a piece of history.
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I’m not sure why Gural seems so optimistic with a Meadowlands casino. Was voted down years ago and I don’t see what has changed voters minds to now vote yes (NJ is corrupt like no other so must be stuff behind the scenes we don’t know about). Let’s just say he gets casino approval, is he going to put it on 3rd floor where Trotters and Pink are? Build an attachment on to Fanduel/track building?
It's simple. Every referendum in the past was worded as would you approve a casino outside AC. It was always voted down and by a large margin. The next referendum will be worded specifically as would you approve a casino-----specifically at Monmouth Park and the Meadowlands. Several recent polls have shown this referendum would pass. Maybe Gural is naive. Maybe he's in denial. Maybe he is posturing. Maybe he knows something/a lot more than we know. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I guess we will soon see.
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I was with my wife opening night at the Meadowlands in 1976. Must have been about 40,000 there that night. I remember they ran out of ice cream sandwiches after the 5th race. LOL! Horseman shipped in from everywhere looking for a piece of history.
I was also an attendance opening night Ray Remmen won the first race. Mob scene
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Jeff has done wonders he deserves all the accolades
Do these wonders include being the first harness track to let the CAWs into their pools?
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Do these wonders include being the first harness track to let the CAWs into their pools?
Gural
Dick
Fist
11.wj
Fuck Harness Racing, Meet Star Wars next villain...
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It will be a closer vote than last time due to the economic issues facing NJ voters. The promise of good paying casino jobs and more money going into the state's treasury might get Gural over the finish line this time.
100% tmbz1 Everyone in NJ. will be looking to get all their taxes lowered! A casino could help, voters will be checking the yes box.
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It will be a closer vote than last time due to the economic issues facing NJ voters. The promise of good paying casino jobs and more money going into the state's treasury might get Gural over the finish line this time.
Perhaps, but certainly the specific location of a new casino. The reason it has always been voted down-----by a lot-----is NIMBY. Tax dollars, jobs, you name it, has never been able to overcome that nobody wants it in their hometown.
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Give Gural 10 casinos, but harness racing has to come to an abrupt halt. Maybe it can come back on line, I doubt you can remove the systematic corruption out of it so it can, so I don't think so.
If it dies, it dies, we'll mourn it here and no one in the world at large will even know it's gone.
Every great moment we've all had in harness racing has since happened a long time ago.
Accept that already.
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Perhaps, but certainly the specific location of a new casino. The reason it has always been voted down-----by a lot-----is NIMBY. Tax dollars, jobs, you name it, has never been able to overcome that nobody wants it in their hometown.
You could be right GH. But I think that the vote will be really close whichever way it goes. I do hope Gural and the Meadowlands get it. Just to see what he does with it.
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You could be right GH. But I think that the vote will be really close whichever way it goes. I do hope Gural and the Meadowlands get it. Just to see what he does with it.
Politically speaking, they've done everything they could do. Sen. Sarlo is behind this. That's major. He was not part of any prior referendum. However, they are rushing this. They have one year. Not a long time given the task. I think if they educate and do what they need to, and even more of that with the people who live in within, I don't know, 10 miles or so of the Meadowlands, and the same with Monmouth Park, I say it passes by a good margin. If it doesn't, I still say there will be a casino, most likely at either the Meadowlands or Monmouth, but certainly outside AC, by 2035, 2040 the latest.
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I am just repeating myself here....
I am not sure why Gural thinks he will be annointed a casino anytime soon
the last referendum ended in an overwhelming NO by the NJ voters
when this occurs-- technically it usually takes a few years to get it on the ballot again to have a chance at being passed
Gural must have dipped into his own pocket to NJ politicians just to get this on the ballot in Nov 2026
as far as NY putting pressure on getting this done is complete nonsense-
as far as a M1 casino saving harness racing-that is also complete nonsense
the streets wont suddenly be paved in gold and everyone wont get a new truck/trailer like they actually believe