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Title: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Cashout on October 26, 2025, 08:26:18 PM
       Breeders Crown wins , multiple stakes wins , career year.    I guess Bartlett isn’t missing SCM
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 26, 2025, 09:15:39 PM
Yonkers attendance, Jason's home track, amongst other NYS tracks is so low that the NYSGC annual reports stopped including harness track attendance.  25,000 when I was a kid, now sub 100?  Is that real?

Not a business you need fans, oh well.

State sponsored fucking over horses, gamblers and honest horseman and owners so some senior can blow their savings and get a free meal and other rewards.

As for their friendship, tough when you're at cross purposes and Alphas, I don't know Jason but Mike is.  Lot's of history...

Otherwise success in itself is a sad reason for ditching a friend, it's shallow.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: kantseeback on October 26, 2025, 09:55:43 PM
Yonkers attendance, Jason's home track, amongst other NYS tracks is so low that the NYSGC annual reports stopped including harness track attendance.  25,000 when I was a kid, now sub 100?  Is that real?

Not a business you need fans, oh well.

State sponsored fucking over horses, gamblers and honest horseman and owners so some senior can blow their savings and get a free meal and other rewards.

As for their friendship, tough when you're at cross purposes and Alphas, I don't know Jason but Mike is.  Lot's of history...

Otherwise success in itself is a sad reason for ditching a friend, it's shallow.

YR, sub 100? sub 30 is more like it and I'm being generous.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 26, 2025, 10:27:16 PM
       Breeders Crown wins , multiple stakes wins , career year.    I guess Bartlett isn’t missing SCM
Good for Jason! I wasn’t aware that Jason had any affiliation with SCM
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 26, 2025, 10:38:45 PM
Good for Jason! I wasn’t aware that Jason had any affiliation with SCM

That's because your mother tried to flush you down the toilet and her rapist, your Dear Ol' DAD was hitting you in the head with a plunger.

You come across as such a teenie tiny twerp!   ;D

Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 27, 2025, 12:21:16 AM
Question for Jason Bartlett...

You did know that you drove innocent horse athletes turned into juiced up junkies by your colleagues in your career?

You still drive horses like that aforementioned at times, and know those trainers are scumbags but you're notching your belt and banking the dough when you run in the purse money?

Hall of Fames for what, twats?

STFU, you've done nothing in your career worthwhile of shit but you and your colleagues, predecessors have further sent harness racing into extinction, no, it's coming back from a live attendance of 30 back to 25,000.

Fucking joke.

Another participant zero!
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Harness racer on October 27, 2025, 12:41:57 PM
       Breeders Crown wins , multiple stakes wins , career year.    I guess Bartlett isn’t missing SCM

He didn’t mention him in his post race interviews.   ngc3
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Calhoun on October 27, 2025, 12:46:39 PM
He didn’t mention him in his post race interviews.   ngc3
Yeah, he gets that a lot. Doubt he was thanked at his daughter's wedding either, much less invited..Poor wee fella

 
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 27, 2025, 02:31:39 PM
Yeah, he gets that a lot. Doubt he was thanked at his daughter's wedding either, much less invited..Poor wee fella
Who ?
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 28, 2025, 12:27:35 PM
He didn’t mention him in his post race interviews.   ngc3
why would he
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on October 28, 2025, 12:37:36 PM
he should just be thankful he wasn't brought down in the scandal. he was guilty by association. he knew laws were being broke. he knew of fraudulent deals and dealings. people have been banded or put away for way less before.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 12:45:31 PM
he should just be thankful he wasn't brought down in the scandal. he was guilty by association. he knew laws were being broke. he knew of fraudulent deals and dealings. people have been banded or put away for way less before.

He'll have a chance when the media swarms on him, or now he...

Jason Bartlett, start a Plop account and start speaking up for yourself.  Or don't, because Yonkers Raceway is an "A" target example of why harness racing should be shut down and if extremely lucky, revamped.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Kirby's Ace on October 28, 2025, 12:49:44 PM
Can you imagine knowing there's videos of your dad on the internet dressed as a driver driving a chicken and as a pope talking to a horseman congregation? LOL
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 01:07:10 PM
He'll have a chance when the media swarms on him, or now he...

Jason Bartlett, start a Plop account and start speaking up for yourself.  Or don't, because Yonkers Raceway is an "A" target example of why harness racing should be shut down and if extremely lucky, revamped.

Banca's testimony and evidence hasn't been unsealed...yet. As for him ever starting a Plop account. No, he used to have me come on here to fight his battles against guys like Hush Limbaugh. And Kirby? Imagine being asleep upstairs and mom was giving a lap dance to Jordan Stratton in the living room while Dad was taking a dump.  ngc3
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: makingit on October 28, 2025, 01:31:51 PM
Who is SCM ?
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on October 28, 2025, 01:34:17 PM
did stratton throw dollar bills at her?
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 01:35:37 PM
Banca's testimony and evidence hasn't been unsealed...yet. As for him ever starting a Plop account. No, he used to have me come on here to fight his battles against guys like Hush Limbaugh. And Kirby? Imagine being asleep upstairs and mom was giving a lap dance to Jordan Stratton in the living room while Dad was taking a dump.  ngc3

 ngc3

Splice that into the highlight reel!  ;D

Lap dance  ngc3

Mama  ngc3
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 01:36:52 PM
Almost forgot about this barn trash move for whatever reason. Before all this garbage and I just had those horses at Goshen. I was at Delancey's with my buddy who owned them. In conversation one of the females who worked there asked me about catching the live music at The Horse & Sulky in Campbell Hall. Little too young for my old ass and I nicely said mehhh maybe some other time. I told Jason about it one night, it was funny. But not long after while on the phone with him not realizing I was on speaker phone his wife chimed in about it. Their son was working there at the time. And how she was going to send him to ask her about it and find out how old she is. I said are you serious? I'm not barn trash and wouldn't do that, why the fuck would you send your kid to ask something like that? It was all laughs until I mentioned age and that I'm not using filters on my pics on social media. OH NO it got serious real fucking fast! Mind you it wasn't Jason, he tried to smooth it over. But she suddenly got serious, boo fucking hoo. Mind your own fucking business with shit like this, Delancey's isn't a fucking track kitchen and I'm not some typical barn trash. Those people know damn well I kept A LOT buried out of respect for people I trusted. And I can promise one thing, if or when the day comes the Banca files are unsealed? I'm going to have a fucking field day. EVERY conversation is there.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 01:39:11 PM
did stratton throw dollar bills at her?

All I remember is the phone rang late that night and the person on the other end was fucking crying. My ex and I FLEW to fucking Goshen to talk it all down, it's when we lived in Bullville at the farm. That's a fucking fact. But I'm a scumbag.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 28, 2025, 02:09:46 PM
Who is SCM ?
I think he’s the guy that says every day Ford must retire.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: MTP1972 on October 28, 2025, 02:10:53 PM
He's Equine Advocacy Alliance
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 28, 2025, 02:13:32 PM
He's Equine Advocacy Alliance
I thought he was Yonkers 1
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 02:16:30 PM
I thought he was Yonkers 1

You seem to think you know about everyone and have strong opinions too. Yet you have no idea what or who you're talking about. Troll away, like this is your first account too.  ngc3
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 02:58:40 PM
You seem to think you know about everyone and have strong opinions too. Yet you have no idea what or who you're talking about. Troll away, like this is your first account too.  ngc3

 ngc3

What's Horseplop?


I thought he was Yonkers 1

I thought I thought I thought  ngc3...the first 100+ posts you're an oblivious imbecile, back to that  ngc3
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on October 28, 2025, 04:47:34 PM
Right or wrong, drivers are hired guns. Independent contractors. Have whip will travel. Driving is their livelihood. Time immemorial drivers have driven for trainers who have done illegal things. Thirty plus years ago, John Campbell drove plenty for Bill Robinson. He drove plenty for Jeff LaPoff. Today, plenty of other drivers have driven for Allard, Gillis, Eckley, as well as Banca, Surick, and other trainers/people who got indicted, were convicted, went to jail, and so on.

Who knew who did what and when is the issue apparently. If it wasn't, then there wouldn't be a question or discussion. This sport and industry needs to hold owners accountable-----and that is starting, that is happening-----vets, which is also happening, but what's next? Drivers? Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 05:09:55 PM
Right or wrong, drivers are hired guns. Independent contractors. Have whip will travel. Driving is their livelihood. Time immemorial drivers have driven for trainers who have done illegal things. Thirty plus years ago, John Campbell drove plenty for Bill Robinson. He drove plenty for Jeff LaPoff. Today, plenty of other drivers have driven for Allard, Gillis, Eckley, as well as Banca, Surick, and other trainers/people who got indicted, were convicted, went to jail, and so on.

Who knew who did what and when is the issue apparently. If it wasn't, then there wouldn't be a question or discussion. This sport and industry needs to hold owners accountable-----and that is starting, that is happening-----vets, which is also happening, but what's next? Drivers? Good luck with that.

For over a decade this "kid" and I talked about this. You have no choice but to do business with these people, otherwise you go nowhere. But there's a fine line somewhere that I told him don't get in bed with them. When he started buying horses with Banca I knew he crossed over. He would then get into battles with him if he chose off and I said well you created that situation now. And when the Fed heat came on I warned him again that I told him they were listening. I totally agree with you owners should be held accountable. How is the question. I still think not only punish the trainer, cut off the money with the horse as well. In the end, they all end up selling their souls to succeed. If you don't, you're trapped your whole life at a place like Monticello.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: toothman on October 28, 2025, 05:27:49 PM
For over a decade this "kid" and I talked about this. You have no choice but to do business with these people, otherwise you go nowhere. But there's a fine line somewhere that I told him don't get in bed with them. When he started buying horses with Banca I knew he crossed over. He would then get into battles with him if he chose off and I said well you created that situation now. And when the Fed heat came on I warned him again that I told him they were listening. I totally agree with you owners should be held accountable. How is the question. I still think not only punish the trainer, cut off the money with the horse as well. In the end, they all end up selling their souls to succeed. If you don't, you're trapped your whole life at a place like Monticello.

How about if a horse gets a positive, he is barred from racing for x amount of days, weeks, months whatever.
I think thats what they do in canada
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 06:06:15 PM
How about if a horse gets a positive, he is barred from racing for x amount of days, weeks, months whatever.
I think thats what they do in canada

How about racketeering charges, swindling, fraud, conspiracies to commit drug adulteration and cruelty to an animal...Across state lines!

Prison, fines, forfeiture, not only of the monies but the horse.

Lie detectors / polygraphs may not be admissible in court but you want or to keep your job in government (regulatory) as a licensee (Drivers, trainers, vets...) you better believe you can be pursued to do strap on bitches.

These fuck ups are done!

Guess what Trump lovers (and haters) he hates welfare, food stamps...and he has plenty of friends in the casino business and as a former casino owner he can sympathize, decouple, of course.  He could strangle the federal monies of states that don't.

Harness Racing currently is an ongoing threat to the financial national security of the United States and its citizens.

A plague in its current form. 

Needs to go until it can prove it can operate without systematic corruption of its participants most importantly victimized being the horses, gamblers, honest horsemen!

 96z.p Let's not forget   tmbz1
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 28, 2025, 06:59:54 PM
You seem to think you know about everyone and have strong opinions too. Yet you have no idea what or who you're talking about. Troll away, like this is your first account too.  ngc3
no sir I don’t pretend to know about everybody. I am new here as a poster this is my one and only account. You seem to know who my partner is so obviously you hack personal IDs so you should know that.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Kirby's Ace on October 28, 2025, 07:09:01 PM
Banca's testimony and evidence hasn't been unsealed...yet. As for him ever starting a Plop account. No, he used to have me come on here to fight his battles against guys like Hush Limbaugh. And Kirby? Imagine being asleep upstairs and mom was giving a lap dance to Jordan Stratton in the living room while Dad was taking a dump.  ngc3
)

Mom must of had the moves.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 28, 2025, 07:17:18 PM
He's Equine Advocacy Alliance
thank you I thought he was also Yonkers1
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 07:19:07 PM
thank you I thought he was also Yonkers1

At least you admit you're clueless  tmbz1
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Cashout on October 28, 2025, 08:02:47 PM
     For a guy who says he roots for Jason Bartlett you sure have a lot of negative things to say about him.  And talking about his wife the way you do really shows what kind of person you are.  Bottom line he’s a great driver , one of the best in the game .  And you’re mopping floors and cleaning restrooms at the local YMCA
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 08:34:31 PM
thank you I thought he was also Yonkers1

I found your new profile pic

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNXp0Bk3ADncGnioHvYQG5iS8bgxtOuCbDSw&s)
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 08:37:46 PM
     For a guy who says he roots for Jason Bartlett you sure have a lot of negative things to say about him.  And talking about his wife the way you do really shows what kind of person you are.  Bottom line he’s a great driver , one of the best in the game .  And you’re mopping floors and cleaning restrooms at the local YMCA

Dementia? Can't focus? Or just stupid? I said I don't with him bad luck. Was always happy for him. Does that mean I I have forget reality? As a friend I always had his back and always covered for him. I will repeat, that ended when he was going to send someone to 'teach me a lesson'. Guess I missed that class. Understand now stupid?
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 08:46:35 PM
Mike, if true, let me know when I can volunteer and mop floors and clean toilets at the YMCA, I never mind serving and doing honest work....he's a a driver, one of the best  ngc3 of a going extinct corrupt embarrassment.  C'mon Horse Junky move your ass. 
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Cashout on October 28, 2025, 08:55:59 PM
      You say you were his friend and he says you are a depraved stalker
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 09:00:26 PM
Mike, if true, let me know when I can volunteer and mop floors and clean toilets at the YMCA, I never mind serving and doing honest work....he's a a driver, one of the best  ngc3 of a going extinct corrupt embarrassment.  C'mon Horse Junky move your ass.

It's like junior high cafeteria your momma jokes. What do you expect of an industry filled with uneducated barn trash. If they wanna keep poking I have plenty of stories to tell. They have trouble understanding you can actually be happy for someone and not with them bad. Yet tell the truth nobody wants to hear. Only reason these lowlifes hate me is I'm not afraid to expose the facts that threaten them. If they're innocent they shouldn't have an issue with me.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 09:00:43 PM
      You say you were his friend and he says you are a depraved stalker

If Mike was a stalker we'd know.

He has close to triple digits in humans actually stalking him and his every whereabout and move.  ngc3

Praying they come off his radar  ;D
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 09:01:42 PM
      You say you were his friend and he says you are a depraved stalker

Sure he does. Is that what the voices in your head told you?  ngc3
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 09:04:09 PM
If Mike was a stalker we'd know.

He has close to triple digits in humans actually stalking him and his every whereabout and move.  ngc3

Praying they come off his radar  ;D

It's simple. If they're attacking me, they're guilty. Just ask them what their real name is.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 09:15:32 PM
It's simple. If they're attacking me, they're guilty. Just ask them what their real name is.

The nature of a beast is some are honest of who they are, crass, despicable.

Hey, they antagonize you as an animal advocate is the lowest, now the gambler...I'm stepping in.

Harness Racing is very thin glass that is already cracked.

The biggest disappointment is the honest horsemen who stay quiet.

We hear a gripe here and there and an anonymous finger point.

But so much fear.

Why won't they fight back together, walk out across NA, they are the majority?
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Cashout on October 28, 2025, 09:15:39 PM
          Mike , does it make you feel like a big man bad mouthing his wife.  You say you’re not barn trash but words like that come out of your mouth. 


Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 09:20:47 PM
          Mike , does it make you feel like a big man bad mouthing his wife.  You say you’re not barn trash but words like that come out of your mouth.

Hmm, did it make her feel like a big woman having her kid go investigate something about a woman where he worked that I told her husband? Sending a CHILD to ask how old a woman was and if I spoke to her about going to a bar to listen to bands???? Yeah, real fucking classy. Should I tell some other stories about back dooring people they called friends? Maybe I can mention one about Scott Zeron....New Street Lounge right after Thanksgiving 2021. And even that night I wasn't allowed to enjoy the fact I won my first start back in the game after over 15 years away as a trainer. Ask her what she said to me... tmbz1
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 09:20:54 PM
          Mike , does it make you feel like a big man bad mouthing his wife.  You say you’re not barn trash but words like that come out of your mouth.

I get it.

Let him, her, start an account and come here.

Gural, Bartlett, his wife, Burke, AGCO, JMAC...c'mon, let them speak.

No need for surrogates.

They'll all wish they had.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 09:26:32 PM
I get it.

Let him, her, start an account and come here.

Gural, Bartlett, his wife, Burke, AGCO, JMAC...c'mon, let them speak.

No need for surrogates.

They'll all wish they had.  tmbz1

I think I've been pretty good biting my tongue over the years. Any "friend" who makes a threat the way he did? He had more than enough time to do the right thing, nope. Now I know where his head is and whose asses it's up. Which is fine, that's part of the business. But he threatened the wrong guy and I've been pretty quiet since. I can say A LOT more, but not until I have documents. The rest is personal, if they wanna go there I sure as shit can oblige.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 09:28:01 PM
How so you stand to feed your children with money that your husband earns by driving horse junkies around a track and whipping them too?

What is untrue about that statement?

Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 09:29:24 PM
How so you stand to feed your children with money that your husband earns by driving horse junkies around a track and whipping them too?

What is untrue about that statement?

It's how you pay for "diamond stud earrings". Ask JJB about that. Check your DMs too.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Way to go on October 28, 2025, 09:46:11 PM
Where's Banca now??
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 09:51:35 PM
Where's Banca now??

What I've been told by the people I actually trust and who are behind me is he is one of the few that truly distanced himself from the game after being released.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Way to go on October 28, 2025, 09:56:02 PM
Seemed like a nice guy the one time I met him
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on October 28, 2025, 10:05:49 PM
I have several people on ignore, so I am not seeing every post; however, I will say this-----anyone who has a very personal, close, etc., relationship with a driver, would not be smart to disclose it, and would be even less smart to disclose on a forum such as this.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Trigger on October 28, 2025, 10:12:19 PM
I have several people on ignore, so I am not seeing every post; however, I will say this-----anyone who has a very personal, close, etc., relationship with a driver, would not be smart to disclose it, and would be even less smart to disclose on a forum such as this.

No one out there cares if any day at Horseplop is their trophy moment, but they sure as shit care if it's the whip.



Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Equine Advocacy Alliance on October 28, 2025, 10:20:08 PM
Seemed like a nice guy the one time I met him

He actually is, but he's changed. And I understand why, doesn't make it right though. Also, I just realized that the same time Gareth Dowse was being billed for BB3 given to Hemi Seelster, Banca was training him. Howard owned him that whole time and was billed and paid. And if you listen to Gareth's phone call with me he says he had no clue his name was being used with Seth Fishman, now that actually adds up. Who was the common denominator in all that??? Who also owned horses with Banca???
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: oldjohn123 on October 28, 2025, 10:41:54 PM
Banca's testimony and evidence hasn't been unsealed...yet. As for him ever starting a Plop account. No, he used to have me come on here to fight his battles against guys like Hush Limbaugh. And Kirby? Imagine being asleep upstairs and mom was giving a lap dance to Jordan Stratton in the living room while Dad was taking a dump.  ngc3
Tell us the dads name,if you know?
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 29, 2025, 10:28:54 AM
Seemed like a nice guy the one time I met him
I met Ford at the sale he couldn’t have been nicer. Sour grapes that’s what’s going on here.
Title: Re: Bartlett loving life since he ditched SCM
Post by: Sakit on October 29, 2025, 10:29:38 AM
I have several people on ignore, so I am not seeing every post; however, I will say this-----anyone who has a very personal, close, etc., relationship with a driver, would not be smart to disclose it, and would be even less smart to disclose on a forum such as this.
I have a couple on ignore myself
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