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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: wizardofoz on October 18, 2025, 05:10:03 PM
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Certain horses and trainers at several tracks seem to get inside post WAY more than a legit weekly draw would result in! It is time with internet technology to MANDATE that ALL race draws be on zoom so owners can watch for themselves. I have seen horses on the program that have drawn the 1-3 post 7 of its last 8 starts and another that has drawn the 1-4 post 6 of its last 7 starts! The odds of this happening are astronomical and these inside draws, ESPECIALLY on a half mile track, equate to making the most purse money.
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Certain horses and trainers at several tracks seem to get inside post WAY more than a legit weekly draw would result in! It is time with internet technology to MANDATE that ALL race draws be on zoom so owners can watch for themselves. I have seen horses on the program that have drawn the 1-3 post 7 of its last 8 starts and another that has drawn the 1-4 post 6 of its last 7 starts! The odds of this happening are astronomical and these inside draws, ESPECIALLY on a half mile track, equate to making the most purse money.
I've attended many draws and they are legit. With so many horses and races streaks come often.
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I've attended many draws and they are legit. With so many horses and races streaks come often.
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Everything is legit ngc3 Burke never cheated in his life ngc3 where's the proof hold on let me close my eyes ngc3 no race has ever been fixed ngc3 only gambler crybabies and buyers remorse ngc3 you lost 2 bux? ngc3
Go muck a fucking stall you loser. Your actual job. ngc3
Then you can go hang with Kenny and the Answer at the circle jerk. 11.wj
They go into the rs office when they walk out and they palm the numbers, we already discussed this shit. Yeh it happens, knowingly.
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buffalo/ batavia circuit hanky panky years ..........well known fact..
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ngc3
Everything is legit ngc3 Burke never cheated in his life ngc3 where's the proof hold on let me close my eyes ngc3 no race has ever been fixed ngc3 only gambler crybabies and buyers remorse ngc3 you lost 2 bux? ngc3
Go muck a fucking stall you loser. Your actual job. ngc3
Then you can go hang with Kenny and the Answer at the circle jerk. 11.wj
They go into the rs office when they walk out and they palm the numbers, we already discussed this shit. Yeh it happens, knowingly.
Cheaters eventually get caught and are weeded out. Every time you lose $2 ITS NOT CHEATING!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Cheaters eventually get caught and are weeded out. Every time you lose $2 ITS NOT CHEATING!!!!
Every time you're paid 2 bux you've been overpaid 2 bux ngc3
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buffalo/ batavia circuit hanky panky years ..........well known fact..
I palmed numbers back in the 90’s. Everything is computer generated now
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I palmed numbers back in the 90’s. Everything is computer generated now
tmbz1
That's exactly when I heard about it i.e. Gurfein's crew.
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Cheaters eventually get caught and are weeded out. Every time you lose $2 ITS NOT CHEATING!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
You don't get tired of being schooled & made a fool of. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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How bout live claiming draws. Give you something to watch between races and some transparency.
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I've attended many draws and they are legit. With so many horses and races streaks come often.
Streaks of POSITIVE race draws 88% of the time in past 8 draws seems unreal. Why are so many NOT drawing the inside posts? If they were legit there would be parity of post draws but for "certain" trainers they are not. Stakes race draws MIGHT be legit with people watching them but ALL draws should be ZOOMED to the owners to watch.
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I think the Wizard is on to something. If everyone had the opportunity to watch the draw then the mystery of bad post positions would go away and the complaints would possibly go away.
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I think the Wizard is on to something. If everyone had the opportunity to watch the draw then the mystery of bad post positions would go away and the complaints would possibly go away.
How would you suggest the film a computer program drawing numbers?
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I palmed numbers back in the 90’s. Everything is computer generated now
Right… BUT .. how many times do the hit the button ?
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Certain horses and trainers at several tracks seem to get inside post WAY more than a legit weekly draw would result in! It is time with internet technology to MANDATE that ALL race draws be on zoom so owners can watch for themselves. I have seen horses on the program that have drawn the 1-3 post 7 of its last 8 starts and another that has drawn the 1-4 post 6 of its last 7 starts! The odds of this happening are astronomical and these inside draws, ESPECIALLY on a half mile track, equate to making the most purse money.
Posts like this are silly. First, you are still watching and betting on these races. Second, you think posting on Horseplop is going to have some impact. If you think this is true, put together some compelling data and give it to the attorney general of the specific state. Shit or get off the pot!
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Occam's Razor is a principle in philosophy and problem-solving that suggests that the simplest explanation, requiring the fewest assumptions, is often the correct one." All they have to do is ZOOM the draw and if a computer, show the screen as it is occurring.
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Certain horses and trainers at several tracks seem to get inside post WAY more than a legit weekly draw would result in! It is time with internet technology to MANDATE that ALL race draws be on zoom so owners can watch for themselves. I have seen horses on the program that have drawn the 1-3 post 7 of its last 8 starts and another that has drawn the 1-4 post 6 of its last 7 starts! The odds of this happening are astronomical and these inside draws, ESPECIALLY on a half mile track, equate to making the most purse money.
The t-bred tracks are doing this. I've watched it. Very interesting because of the jockey agents and the role they play.
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There is NO rational reason that this should not be done at all harness track race offices to keep it above board and it is a simple thing to do now.