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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Ignorance Is Bliss on October 14, 2025, 05:43:11 PM
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tmbz1
https://investors.mgmresorts.com/investors/news-releases/press-release-details/2025/MGM-YONKERS-WITHDRAWS-COMMERCIAL-CASINO-LICENSE-APPLICATION-IN-NEW-YORK/default.aspx?fbclid=IwY2xjawNbou9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHldidsqg_aVucZ_OBNAVMYSsoXm1W1RDJev_VicHBvoK65hiPLtfZvwFvlv1_aem_VZ1grJgCKUu3V4THjZjliA
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RUTRO!
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$5 bil for education?
All I see in most of these millennials are retards.
Weed smoking entitled turds who should be detached and bashed over their own head with their smart phone that's attached to them like glue.
Government handouts are for losers.
Government should keep their hand in their fucking pocket and maybe these casinos would have more to pay its employees, investors, customers...
People bust their ass so some little cunt gets a free education?
Why even work at the casino to pay for this shit, get a free education and do something else.
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One has to wonder if the “Mandami” effect has anything to do with this decision?
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One has to wonder if the “Mandami” effect has anything to do with this decision?
Good point
I was just thinking the same thing. tmbz1
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One has to wonder if the “Mandami” effect has anything to do with this decision?
Mamdami
Socialism is dumb.
Give them a good kick in the twat to go get a job and be responsible for themself.
There is a sense of personal self accomplishment that is forbidden to take away from people, yet these politicians want to do it.
I don't give a shit if he's a green extraterrestrial, he better adjust his platform to something smart and balanced, or...
Poverty will be the new rich in NYC ngc3
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$5 bil for education?
All I see in most of these millennials are retards.
Weed smoking entitled turds who should be detached and bashed over their own head with their smart phone that's attached to them like glue.
Government handouts are for losers.
Government should keep their hand in their fucking pocket and maybe these casinos would have more to pay its employees, investors, customers...
People bust their ass so some little cunt gets a free education?
Why even work at the casino to pay for this shit, get a free education and do something else.
You prove how much of a pathetic loser you are every day. You should go back to measuring the size of Burke's cock so you can post about it.
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You prove how much of a pathetic loser you are every day. You should go back to measuring the size of Burke's cock so you can post about it.
You're not very creative.
You have the same outskirts of a fantasy Kenny, and just go on repeat.
Follow through, what do you want of me, Burke and his cock?
I'm not homo, I surmise Burke is not homo, but if any Horseplop member is a sword swallower, shit pusher are we going to rag on them?
Discriminate?
C'mon...in the meantime all these kind things you say about Burke, Taylor night and day, week after week, month after month, why don't they come here just for a minute and say thank you Kenny?
Are you worthy of their thanks, I said it in shout out today they should thank their friends and supporters.
Frankly they are selfish and entitled, you spend a portion of your life on them publicly and they DO NOT RECIPROCATE!
That's just wrong! ;D
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One has to wonder if the “Mandami” effect has anything to do with this decision?
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MaybeMamdami
Socialism is dumb.
Give them a good kick in the twat to go get a job and be responsible for themself.
There is a sense of personal self accomplishment that is forbidden to take away from people, yet these politicians want to do it.
I don't give a shit if he's a green extraterrestrial, he better adjust his platform to something smart and balanced, or...
Poverty will be the new rich in NYC ngc3
YMamdami
Socialism is dumb.
Give them a good kick in the twat to go get a job and be responsible for themself.
There is a sense of personal self accomplishment that is forbidden to take away from people, yet these politicians want to do it.
I don't give a shit if he's a green extraterrestrial, he better adjust his platform to something smart and balanced, or...
Poverty will be the new rich in NYC ngc3
You mean socialism like the government owning buying 10 peercent of Intel this year? Or the socialism of the US owning a golden share of US steel. Or maybe you meant the socialism of the government taking a 15 percent cut of the chips that Nvidia sells to China. Or is it the 36 million they used to buy 10 percent of Trilogy mining? Is it that kind of socialism??
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One has to wonder if the “Mandami” effect has anything to do with this decision?
MaybeYYou mean socialism like the government owning buying 10 peercent of Intel this year? Or the socialism of the US owning a golden share of US steel. Or maybe you meant the socialism of the government taking a 15 percent cut of the chips that Nvidia sells to China. Or is it the 36 million they used to buy 10 percent of Trilogy mining? Is it that kind of socialism??
Yes, if that's what it was, and it looks exactly like that, this herein is Trump trying to be Putin. The only person on planet earth that he is and always was envious of. Putin here all along as Trump came and went and came back, Putin doubles down on his crimes, he murders those close and far in is way, a threat.
Putin is worth hundreds of billions, possibly over a trillion, doing this exact same thing for decades. tmbz1
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Yes, if that's what it was, and it looks exactly like that, this herein is Trump trying to be Putin. The only person on planet earth that he is and always was envious of. Putin here all along as Trump came and went and came back, Putin doubles down on his crimes, he murders those close and far in is way, a threat.
Putin is worth hundreds of billions, possibly over a trillion, doing this exact same thing for decades. tmbz1
Trump whole goal is to intimidate and rake in money for himself. He actually is great at it. About as corrupt as Putin , maybe worse if there were zero railguards.
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From a report I watched MGM did not want to invest all that money and only get a 15 year Casino license. Originally it was 30 years. What it means for Yonkers racing I doubt will be good.
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Trump whole goal is to intimidate and rake in money for himself. He actually is great at it. About as corrupt as Putin , maybe worse if there were zero railguards.
Railguards, I like that lol, as in democracy, not what it is, Trump wants to be loved by everyone...why he chose JD Vance, a former Trump hater to get those non-maga repubs off the fence. Tactics, he hates nothing more than being hated, jokes he struggles with but pure hate is his Kryptonite.
No one is safe thinking we still live in a democracy, who is going to stop him? It's a facade and at the same time, if he went full blown autocrat, this country would come to a halt.
60 million people wouldn't show up for work, that's doctors, first responders...peop le would die 5 times faster than the worst of pre-vaccine covid.
The country wouldn't have to be torn down, markets would crash and his own people would turn on him as their interests would swirling around the bowl.
You can't nuke your own country lol.
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Railguards, I like that lol, as in democracy, not what it is, Trump wants to be loved by everyone...why he chose JD Vance, a former Trump hater to get those non-maga repubs off the fence. Tactics, he hates nothing more than being hated, jokes he struggles with but pure hate is his Kryptonite.
No one is safe thinking we still live in a democracy, who is going to stop him? It's a facade and at the same time, if he went full blown autocrat, this country would come to a halt.
60 million people wouldn't show up for work, that's doctors, first responders...peop le would die 5 times faster than the worst of pre-vaccine covid.
The country wouldn't have to be torn down, markets would crash and his own people would turn on him as their interests would swirling around the bowl.
You can't nuke your own country lol.
Actually people in the streets it will actually take. Not rioting. I will be at a No Kings protest this weekend. ANd no I am not Antifa or love Hamas as they are trying to frame it. I love my country and see the threat to our Democracy. I am not pro troops in cities or streets nor are the cops I talk to. If you think there is too much crime hire more police! Moving Federal troops is a colossal taxpayer waste of money. Having the military police a community it know nothing about seems like a police state. Add the masks to ICE agents you basically have secret police. Years ago there was Elian the Cuban kid yanked from his home and sent back to Cuba to his dad. Conservatives went absolutely nuts, called the police jack booted thugs, now today people actually cheer seperating children everyday. Sad.
This has gone off topic as someone brought up Mandani. Given the Mayor of Yonkers is going nuts about no casino I doubt Mandani had anything to do with it. In fact all the casinos will be in NYC even with him there.
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Actually people in the streets it will actually take. Not rioting. I will be at a No Kings protest this weekend. ANd no I am not Antifa or love Hamas as they are trying to frame it. I love my country and see the threat to our Democracy. I am not pro troops in cities or streets nor are the cops I talk to. If you think there is too much crime hire more police! Moving Federal troops is a colassal taxpayer waste of money. Having the military police a community it know nothing about seems like a police state. Add the masks to ICE agents you basically have secret police. Years ago there was Elian the Cuban kid yanked from his home and sent back to Cuba to his dad. Conservatives went absolutely nuts, called the police jack booted thugs, now today people actually cheer seperating children everyday. Sad.
This has gone off topic as someone brought up Mandani. Given the Mayor of Yonkers is going nuts about no casino I doubt Mandani had anything to do with it. In fact all the casinos will be in NYC even with him there.
Yeh, I noticed that over time where unpopular polticians, borderline support surround themself with law enforcement. Kiss their ass and expect the same in return. Like a veiled threat by a 2 inch dick leader with an inferiority complex.
Good Luck, stay hydrated and if you smash someone in their face, remember what Bob Dylan said - everything is legal as long as you don't get caught.
Antifa means antifascist, their behavior is usually on the defense but sure they can go toe toe with there antagonists.
All those 1/6ers pardoned, fascinating! ngc3
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Is this the end of racing at Jonkers
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I don't think a single one of you Plop Retards spelled Mamdani correct. ngc3 ngc3
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I don't think a single one of you Plop Retards spelled Mamdani correct. ngc3 ngc3
ngc3
Guilty as charged! ngc3
Even worst, I was correcting a misspell, did it with an of course - misspell. ngc3
Unintentional your honor! ;D
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If you're looking for the 'why'? The answer lies with these two. As always, when I explain you all know I bring receipts. tmbz1
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From a report I watched MGM did not want to invest all that money and only get a 15 year Casino license. Originally it was 30 years. What it means for Yonkers racing I doubt will be good.
That's what MGM said about withdrawing their bid-----15 yr vs 30, and also the proximity to the other three proposals. This is where the drama starts. The Mayor of Yonkers is calling for an investigation, blaming the Trump Organization, and so on. I just care what happens to racing. At this point, even with all the unknowns, I agree with you, it doesn't look good.
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Shut her down Joe.The party's over!
tmbz1
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You people can’t be that dumb. MGM is keeping the slot parlor at Yonkers. It’s just not investing 3 billion and 5 years of licensing and permitting to build a full casino for table games. Slots are the most profitable anyhow and if you have ever seen the cliental there they aren’t going to a casino where a 6oz filet is going to cost 200 bucks.
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You people can’t be that dumb. MGM is keeping the slot parlor at Yonkers. It’s just not investing 3 billion and 5 years of licensing and permitting to build a full casino for table games. Slots are the most profitable anyhow and if you have ever seen the cliental there they aren’t going to a casino where a 6oz filet is going to cost 200 bucks.
correct... the people there spend millions on penny slots .. they also have thousands of high rollers -- the money will keep flowing. maybe now they can get an announcer that does a good job with words, horse and owner names
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Why do you have to piss on our parade? Let us enjoy the thought that maybe this is the beginning of the end to Faraldo and his gang of theives!
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this is a holy shit moment for me for doing business and investing in the formerly great state of New York
over 7 years ago the state issued 4 full casino licenses north of Westchester with a guarantee of no downstate competition for at least 7 years, which expired
there are 3 new casino licenses currently up for bid in NY, bids I believe exceed 200 million and the license fee I believe is 500 million, the tax rate on profits is 50%
the real winner is the state!
what shocks me in the article is the following;
"The company also cited a reduction in the expected license term from 30 years to 15 years, which would alter returns on its planned $2.3 billion investment"
The value of the license just decreased by 50%. MGM has lots of customers from Queens, NYC and the swamps of Jersey which they will lose if the other 3 casinos are approved as nobody will pass the new Bronx casino from NYC to get to Yonkers, nobody will cross the Throgs Neck or Whitestone bridges and their heavy tolls to hit Yonkers, and the swamp residents will not drive past a shiny new entity in The Bronx to go to an old facility.
If the state can do this mid-stream to bidders, think about what they can do to other businesses.
The real losers, the horse owners currently racing for 8.75% of the racino winnings at Yonkers will have to race for far less as at least 40% of the business is at risk of evaporating, and it cost far more to race now than it did 5 years ago.
New York, New York, time to leave!
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this is a holy shit moment for me for doing business and investing in the formerly great state of New York
over 7 years ago the state issued 4 full casino licenses north of Westchester with a guarantee of no downstate competition for at least 7 years, which expired
there are 3 new casino licenses currently up for bid in NY, bids I believe exceed 200 million and the license fee I believe is 500 million, the tax rate on profits is 50%
the real winner is the state!
what shocks me in the article is the following;
"The company also cited a reduction in the expected license term from 30 years to 15 years, which would alter returns on its planned $2.3 billion investment"
The value of the license just decreased by 50%. MGM has lots of customers from Queens, NYC and the swamps of Jersey which they will lose if the other 3 casinos are approved as nobody will pass the new Bronx casino from NYC to get to Yonkers, nobody will cross the Throgs Neck or Whitestone bridges and their heavy tolls to hit Yonkers, and the swamp residents will not drive past a shiny new entity in The Bronx to go to an old facility.
If the state can do this mid-stream to bidders, think about what they can do to other businesses.
The real losers, the horse owners currently racing for 8.75% of the racino winnings at Yonkers will have to race for far less as at least 40% of the business is at risk of evaporating, and it cost far more to race now than it did 5 years ago.
New York, New York, time to leave!
Throw in the Monticello casino, will the Asians playing Baccarat keep taking the bus to the Casino. I doubt it, that track will close by 2030, you heard it hear first
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For how long is the new SOANY deal with MGM?
Hoping for the Pope to weigh in....
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For how long is the new SOANY deal with MGM?
Hoping for the Pope to weigh in....
Three years, about the same amount of time it will take for the new casinos to be built and running. What I'm laughing at is this shines a HUGE light on the fact this is a reminder that when the VLT WELFARE ends, so does the racing. There's a reason for everything that is happening and isn't happening. tmbz1
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correct... the people there spend millions on penny slots .. they also have thousands of high rollers -- the money will keep flowing. maybe now they can get an announcer that does a good job with words, horse and owner names
You don't like Elmer Fudd? Personally, Elmer Fudd's voice brings me back to my childhood years watching Bugs Bunny.
Watching races at YR brings back good vibes and carefree times, I say keep Elmer Fudd.
I agree with you somewhat but on the VLT slot machine relevancy after the other full-blown casinos are opened. Extra travel time and you will be able to play real table games and slots that payout odds are not dictated by New York State.
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You don't like Elmer Fudd? Personally, Elmer Fudd's voice brings me back to my childhood years watching Bugs Bunny.
Watching races at YR brings back good vibes and carefree times, I say keep Elmer Fudd.
I agree with you somewhat but on the VLT slot machine relevancy after the other full-blown casinos are opened. Extra travel time and you will be able to play real table games and slots that payout odds are not dictated by New York State.
They say it is well known in central NY that the pay out for slots at the track are much better than those at the TS.
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They say it is well known in central NY that the pay out for slots at the track are much better than those at the TS.
In general, VLT slot machines tend to have lower payout rates compared to traditional casino-style slot machines.
VLTs operate based on lottery or raffle rules, which can lead to payouts ranging from 85% to 92%.
In contrast, traditional slot machines typically have payout rates of over 95%, with some reaching up to 99%.
While VLTs may offer more frequent wins, they often have smaller payouts, making them less favorable for long-term winnings.
Ultimately, the choice between VLTs and traditional slot machines depends on personal preferences and the type of gaming experience one seeks.
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When the fill casinos open Yonkers will be hurt badly. The large players will be gone. The ones that live near by will be the ones who frequent Yonkers. I suspect the purses to be cut by 50% or more. It will get worse as time goes on...in my opinion.
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it will be downstate Monticello